0:18 Introduction 0:52 Hardware review 3:39 Starting up IBM T42. Loading Windows and discussing Browser options, Service Pack installation Process, Drivers installation process on old hardware 9:13 Booting into Linux 11:15 Disabling GUI and going to Linux shell. Trying out different tools 12:00 Conclusions 12:48 Oops, Surprise!
This was excellent. Thanks SO much. Just retired, had the time to go back to my longtime pal, my T42, and replace the fan (again) (Gee, the back has a shitload of screws to remove, but the actual fan R & R is easy.) Thing's bomb-proof from the outside. Your video was the first one I found about what to do next with it. It's maxed at 2G RAM, has a 220G HD, and the ancient comm stack for wifi connectivity, which I knew and have forgotten, so for now, there's 30 ft of RJ-45 down the hall to the network switch. Thanks for the 'warning' about Linux, which I'm using on a Raspberry, as well as the tips on drivers. I have an exFat 1TB drive from Sandisk, which may not have a driver for XP anywhere. Last, I am a red dot junkie, starting with my first Tpad, a 355 w/ a 9.5" gray-scale screen, before scratch pads existed. These dots made mice superfluous, are incredibly adjustable and include scrolling (press the blue bar between the two red bars, then push the red dot. Presto! It scrolls the page up/down. PS: Real IBM Thinkpad keyboards: The ONLY ones I've never killed with my hammer-like typing.
Good ideas, sorry so long, I go carried away. A good place to go to get the updates for Windows XP is ERPMAN's pages. Windows XP can be used very easily with 1.5 GB of RAM, in our business around 2009, they were actually so cheap they were running Windows XP on 128 MB, then the economy got slow so I would salvage another 128 MB from other machines, the 256 MB was a noticeable improvement. Windows XP when updated works pretty well, and if one goes through the steps, (SP3, Installer 4.5, IE8 components, needed for updates), there will be lots of updates to install. What people fail to realize is that Microsoft actually has supported XP, even recently, and one will find around 150 updates. There is also a free Anti-Virus called, Panda Dome, (focus on the word Free Anti-Virus). This is an older machine than any laptop I still have, I do have a Sony Vaio Desktop, Pentium II, upgraded to 190 MB RAM, upgraded to a whole 4 GB Hard Drive, (LOL), it still runs 98SE. If I had that laptop I would use it exactly as you are using it Nomadic! MyPal is supposed to be the best Browser, I use SeaMonkey, Firefox, and Opera versions for XP, all are pretty good. The version of Linux I would try to put on would be ZorinOS Lite, Dual Boot with Windows XP. All my older Windows programs can run on this Laptop! This laptop is more than able to use meet the Minimum Requirements of either...and IBM, real IBM, (not Lenovo), Laptops always last...if one updates the CMOS battery! One can actually do many things with a laptop like this! With Windows XP a person can actually run Office 2007, min requirements 500 MHz, 256 MB, 1.5 GB Hard Drive Space.
@@MF175mp Yay, happy for you! I personally prefer Win ME on that machine since it seem to have a better driver support, but up to you. Some people don't like ME for some reason.
I used these at work and serviced quite a number of them back in the day. Recently, I found one in the trash bin with the screen literally ripped off of it. To my surprise the original ide hdd was still in the bay, despite the bay cover also being ripped off and after hooking the laptop up to an external monitor, it actually boots up. It's a mess and it only has 1GB of ram but, I'm currently installing Linux Mint on it and about to checkout if it's usable. Man, this machine brings back memories ☺️
@@NomadicDmitry Yup! It's abysmally slow with mint. I'm going to try Puppy Linux next since it can run entirely in ram but I hate to admit, this old critter may have to be tossed back into the bin. And I'll have to pour one out for my fallen homie 😢
Right. I have an old cable, just for this T42. It has the yellow S-video plug and a green stereo audio plug for the audio out. The other end it three RCA-style plugs, red and white for left and right stereo audio, and a yellow one for the video out.
i cant get any linux working on this maschine lol. bodhi cant connect wifi networks(all greyed out) and the other linxu i was able to start was ANTIX 17.4.1 buit all repos are dead.
@@NomadicDmitry Webpositive is based on webkit, it's not finished yet since the whole OS is still in beta. Haiku currently lacks 3D acceleration and if I remember correctly it's not even planned for the stable release since BeOS didn't have Hardware acceleration either (with very few exceptions.) They will add it later when they have time. It's a tiny team that performs miracles with small resources, just look at the donations. If more people donated money Haiku would have had a stable release years ago, I'm sure of it. They are making great progress all the time though and now they have started working on the ARM port also. I think that beta 3 will come next year already. Beta 4 will be the last one hopefully and then Haiku R1 hopefully before end of 2023, so I use it as my main OS finally.
i think the os the computer came with is always the appropriate os for it, i would never choose linux because it just cuts away all the features that work with software wich only works on windows. example to understand better: with linux you turn a full optional car to almost base model
Thanks for your comment. That's not always the case, though. Let's say you have Windows XP with outdated browsers and software. If you install Linux there you will get better and more recent software support.
@@NomadicDmitry yes and no depends because for xp there is a browser named mypal made on purpose always up to date and super light on ram, it can run browse the web fine on 700mb ram and supports all modern web security and design standards and its in active development and improving. as of now i use norton antivirus wich works fine on my wxp pcs and provides security updates also there is a quite big community wich provides all sort of tech support for xp, xp its "officially" dead but unofficially not dead basically of course major software wont work at the last version but like example office yr fine with 2003 with the converter you can open modern office files, you can run almost the latelest software anyways thats my point of view btw but not everyone knows that
@@NomadicDmitry btw its not an outdated browser as you said before i havent notice any bugs but ive been using it for a couple of months so but they ve been already fixed and its costantly improving and they will be addressed if they havent been addressed already remember to enable the auto update :)
On my T430, T420s, x200s and R61 (and similar) literally all the original features and function keys ect do exactly as they are supposed too with Linux Mint, unlike with win 10 where almost nothing works. I could put the original os back on but that would mean working with an unsupported os that supports less and less each day and is famously virus prone. The old os's are still pretty cool though and I'll still put them back on to toy around with or even use (not as a daily driver though)
@@NomadicDmitry Thanks for the quick reply. I tried all the provided drivers from the official lenovo site and some other sources but all failed. A whole day spented in it. Just few minutes before, I only update the audio update from windows updates menu and it works. Thanks.
I bought this laptop off eBay but I could not get XP to install as it would not recognise the hard drive. Apparently this is a common issue with this laptop. Any ideas?
1) Make sure you use XP SP3, it should have all drivers to detect stuff 2) Hard Drive is IDE, right? 3) Check BIOS settings. If necessary you might need to set compatibility mode or something for HDD 4) Does it detect usb hard drive? or flash drive? 5) Hard drive formatted properly?
Why you, dear friend did not show any other distros (maybe LXLE) for people who are new in linux world and not about programming only! Thank you yopta! )))
Would Zorin OS lite be a good choice for my T42 RAM:1GB CPU:Pentium M 1.7 GHz HDD:40GB I don't plan to use it for long, maybe a year or less till I get a refurbished T420
Any particular reason for Zorin? I would say that it's probably not even going to install on that slow computer (I also have T42 and many distros won't work because of old processor). I would say try antiX or Q4OS Linux or Lubuntu. You need something very light. Keep in mind that even browsing is going to be slow. As of Zorin. I've used it, but there was not that much interesting when I've tried it 3 years ago.
@@NomadicDmitry Somehow I like the way it looks, and the most apps I currently use on XP are available on Zorin, and because I can use Psiphon(which doesn't work on XP),which I used when my primary PC that had Win 7 was still working. That is the main reason, secondary is to watch movies and perhaps cloud gaming
@@ezekiella I see. Well, try Zorin Lite then indeed. Looking at system requirements it might work there. As of cloud gaming - not sure, machine might be too slow
@@ezekiella BTW, any particular reason for T420? Seems like it was originally released in 2011, which is almost a decade ago. Doesn't seem like a future-proof computer.
@@NomadicDmitry I just like the look and feel of theT420,and I doubt that I'll ever need more than 16 GB RAM(I think it supports more, but not sure),I'm not into games that are hard on resources
0:18 Introduction
0:52 Hardware review
3:39 Starting up IBM T42. Loading Windows and discussing Browser options, Service Pack installation Process, Drivers installation process on old hardware
9:13 Booting into Linux
11:15 Disabling GUI and going to Linux shell. Trying out different tools
12:00 Conclusions
12:48 Oops, Surprise!
This was excellent. Thanks SO much.
Just retired, had the time to go back to my longtime pal, my T42, and replace the fan (again) (Gee, the back has a shitload of screws to remove, but the actual fan R & R is easy.) Thing's bomb-proof from the outside. Your video was the first one I found about what to do next with it. It's maxed at 2G RAM, has a 220G HD, and the ancient comm stack for wifi connectivity, which I knew and have forgotten, so for now, there's 30 ft of RJ-45 down the hall to the network switch.
Thanks for the 'warning' about Linux, which I'm using on a Raspberry, as well as the tips on drivers. I have an exFat 1TB drive from Sandisk, which may not have a driver for XP anywhere.
Last, I am a red dot junkie, starting with my first Tpad, a 355 w/ a 9.5" gray-scale screen, before scratch pads existed. These dots made mice superfluous, are incredibly adjustable and include scrolling (press the blue bar between the two red bars, then push the red dot. Presto! It scrolls the page up/down.
PS: Real IBM Thinkpad keyboards: The ONLY ones I've never killed with my hammer-like typing.
Sure, glad it was useful to you!
Good ideas, sorry so long, I go carried away. A good place to go to get the updates for Windows XP is ERPMAN's pages. Windows XP can be used very easily with 1.5 GB of RAM, in our business around 2009, they were actually so cheap they were running Windows XP on 128 MB, then the economy got slow so I would salvage another 128 MB from other machines, the 256 MB was a noticeable improvement. Windows XP when updated works pretty well, and if one goes through the steps, (SP3, Installer 4.5, IE8 components, needed for updates), there will be lots of updates to install. What people fail to realize is that Microsoft actually has supported XP, even recently, and one will find around 150 updates. There is also a free Anti-Virus called, Panda Dome, (focus on the word Free Anti-Virus). This is an older machine than any laptop I still have, I do have a Sony Vaio Desktop, Pentium II, upgraded to 190 MB RAM, upgraded to a whole 4 GB Hard Drive, (LOL), it still runs 98SE. If I had that laptop I would use it exactly as you are using it Nomadic! MyPal is supposed to be the best Browser, I use SeaMonkey, Firefox, and Opera versions for XP, all are pretty good. The version of Linux I would try to put on would be ZorinOS Lite, Dual Boot with Windows XP. All my older Windows programs can run on this Laptop! This laptop is more than able to use meet the Minimum Requirements of either...and IBM, real IBM, (not Lenovo), Laptops always last...if one updates the CMOS battery! One can actually do many things with a laptop like this! With Windows XP a person can actually run Office 2007, min requirements 500 MHz, 256 MB, 1.5 GB Hard Drive Space.
Windows 98 SE!!!! The last model to officially support that I think.
Yup! That's why I like this laptop
@@NomadicDmitry I just installed W98SE to my T41 and I'm happy to see everything including sounds working properly!
@@MF175mp Yay, happy for you! I personally prefer Win ME on that machine since it seem to have a better driver support, but up to you. Some people don't like ME for some reason.
@@NomadicDmitry do you think there would be any way to get sounds working on dos?
@@MF175mp I think it has AC97 built in sound. Haven't tried personally, but I would start with this one - www.georgpotthast.de/dossound/
Thank you for the wonderful video! you are a lifesaver!!!!!
Nice Video!!! Nice work man!! I have T43 with Peppermint 10 Linux is super fast!!!
Thanks! Those machines are nice indeed
I used these at work and serviced quite a number of them back in the day. Recently, I found one in the trash bin with the screen literally ripped off of it. To my surprise the original ide hdd was still in the bay, despite the bay cover also being ripped off and after hooking the laptop up to an external monitor, it actually boots up. It's a mess and it only has 1GB of ram but, I'm currently installing Linux Mint on it and about to checkout if it's usable. Man, this machine brings back memories ☺️
It's gonna be slow, buddy. Especially on Mint, 1 Gb and IDE..
@@NomadicDmitry Yup! It's abysmally slow with mint. I'm going to try Puppy Linux next since it can run entirely in ram but I hate to admit, this old critter may have to be tossed back into the bin. And I'll have to pour one out for my fallen homie 😢
@@westofthemoon I'm running a really nice example of one with puppy rn and it's pretty solid.
bro the start blew me away
Yay, that's great to hear!
1:25 it’s a S-Video port, you connected old TVs on this port. If I remember right there is no audio just video signal.
Right. I have an old cable, just for this T42. It has the yellow S-video plug and a green stereo audio plug for the audio out. The other end it three RCA-style plugs, red and white for left and right stereo audio, and a yellow one for the video out.
i cant get any linux working on this maschine lol. bodhi cant connect wifi networks(all greyed out) and the other linxu i was able to start was ANTIX 17.4.1 buit all repos are dead.
Probably cause it causes some SSE instructions not to run, outdated, no EFI, etc...
@@NomadicDmitry Yes, unfortunately it's not that easy to find something for a T42 with 512 mb ram. The cpu doesn't even have PAE ^^
Haiku OS is still in Beta, but a great fit for old slow computers.
Skeptical Caveman Yeah, but the main problem is lack of:
1) Normal web browser
2) Bad graphic acceleration
3) RUclips plays slow
@@NomadicDmitry Webpositive is based on webkit, it's not finished yet since the whole OS is still in beta.
Haiku currently lacks 3D acceleration and if I remember correctly it's not even planned for the stable release since BeOS didn't have Hardware acceleration either (with very few exceptions.) They will add it later when they have time.
It's a tiny team that performs miracles with small resources, just look at the donations. If more people donated money Haiku would have had a stable release years ago, I'm sure of it. They are making great progress all the time though and now they have started working on the ARM port also. I think that beta 3 will come next year already. Beta 4 will be the last one hopefully and then Haiku R1 hopefully before end of 2023, so I use it as my main OS finally.
i think the os the computer came with is always the appropriate os for it, i would never choose linux because it just cuts away all the features that work with software wich only works on windows. example to understand better: with linux you turn a full optional car to almost base model
Thanks for your comment. That's not always the case, though. Let's say you have Windows XP with outdated browsers and software. If you install Linux there you will get better and more recent software support.
@@NomadicDmitry yes and no depends because for xp there is a browser named mypal made on purpose always up to date and super light on ram, it can run browse the web fine on 700mb ram and supports all modern web security and design standards and its in active development and improving.
as of now i use norton antivirus wich works fine on my wxp pcs and provides security updates
also there is a quite big community wich provides all sort of tech support for xp,
xp its "officially" dead but unofficially not dead basically
of course major software wont work at the last version but like example office yr fine with 2003 with the converter you can open modern office files, you can run almost the latelest software anyways
thats my point of view btw but not everyone knows that
@@stvpls I actually use MyPal in this video. Honestly, it's quite buggy though :)
@@NomadicDmitry btw its not an outdated browser as you said before
i havent notice any bugs but ive been using it for a couple of months so but they ve been already fixed and its costantly improving and they will be addressed if they havent been addressed already remember to enable the auto update :)
On my T430, T420s, x200s and R61 (and similar) literally all the original features and function keys ect do exactly as they are supposed too with Linux Mint, unlike with win 10 where almost nothing works.
I could put the original os back on but that would mean working with an unsupported os that supports less and less each day and is famously virus prone.
The old os's are still pretty cool though and I'll still put them back on to toy around with or even use (not as a daily driver though)
Try using tinycore linux, it's the most lightweight Linux distro
Interesting, I'll check it out!
@@NomadicDmitry you should
right now i made a virtual machine with 64mb of ram and it runs fine and it uses only 30mb of ram
I need drive for this
Could you please help me to solve audio issue with this system on windows 7
Well, it depends on a problem. Audio doesn't work on Windows 7 there? Have you installed the latest drivers available for this machine?
@@NomadicDmitry Thanks for the quick reply. I tried all the provided drivers from the official lenovo site and some other sources but all failed. A whole day spented in it. Just few minutes before, I only update the audio update from windows updates menu and it works. Thanks.
I bought this laptop off eBay but I could not get XP to install as it would not recognise the hard drive. Apparently this is a common issue with this laptop. Any ideas?
1) Make sure you use XP SP3, it should have all drivers to detect stuff
2) Hard Drive is IDE, right?
3) Check BIOS settings. If necessary you might need to set compatibility mode or something for HDD
4) Does it detect usb hard drive? or flash drive?
5) Hard drive formatted properly?
Why you, dear friend did not show any other distros (maybe LXLE) for people who are new in linux world and not about programming only! Thank you yopta! )))
Thank you for the comment. Well, because I don't know about some distros myself :)
@@NomadicDmitry Попробуй обозначенный LXLE, и также PuppyRus Tahr 6.0. удивишься. Они интересные!
I would be interested to see if this machine is truly OS/2 compatible have you thought about doing an install video?
I actually did a few other OS/2 videos, but on a virtual machine
Would Zorin OS lite be a good choice for my T42
RAM:1GB
CPU:Pentium M 1.7 GHz
HDD:40GB
I don't plan to use it for long, maybe a year or less till I get a refurbished T420
Any particular reason for Zorin?
I would say that it's probably not even going to install on that slow computer (I also have T42 and many distros won't work because of old processor).
I would say try antiX or Q4OS Linux or Lubuntu. You need something very light. Keep in mind that even browsing is going to be slow.
As of Zorin. I've used it, but there was not that much interesting when I've tried it 3 years ago.
@@NomadicDmitry Somehow I like the way it looks, and the most apps I currently use on XP are available on Zorin, and because I can use Psiphon(which doesn't work on XP),which I used when my primary PC that had Win 7 was still working. That is the main reason, secondary is to watch movies and perhaps cloud gaming
@@ezekiella I see. Well, try Zorin Lite then indeed. Looking at system requirements it might work there. As of cloud gaming - not sure, machine might be too slow
@@ezekiella BTW, any particular reason for T420? Seems like it was originally released in 2011, which is almost a decade ago. Doesn't seem like a future-proof computer.
@@NomadicDmitry I just like the look and feel of theT420,and I doubt that I'll ever need more than 16 GB RAM(I think it supports more, but not sure),I'm not into games that are hard on resources
А руском хотябы субтитры?
Надо добавить, да. Я на многие видео добавил.
РАША ХИР, ЕПТА
Привет! А почему Хир? Это что значит в этом контексте? :)