"Question: Why have you meat bags not liked, commented, or and subscribed?" "Exclamatory: I wouldn't upset my master meat bags." "Question: Negotiations ar pointless master. I suggest more... 'Aggressive' tactics."
In all my 20 years of star wars fandom, I have never felt more like a nerd than I do now sitting here watching Theory play with his lightsaber 😂 I thank you, Theory!
Any series with Revan must be the greatest Star Wars series ever, there can be no interference from Disney’s creative officers. The Lucas films core must be completely unchained in their efforts.
Darth Revan coolest character it’s only fitting he has the coolest lightsaber the sith of his era took so much inspiration from his design PS: you’re collection was that one for general grievous
Revan has always been my favourite force user, Jedi or Sith. His saber is so iconic and his known background of being a literal rift between the light and darksides of the force is one of the most interesting of all. Also, as far as we know he's the oldest force user to use a purple lightsaber. Then maybe a couple others and then Mace. I also wish his other saber was more well known. If there was a cheaper Revan saber on the market that was also decent quality, I'd have my hands on it in seconds lmao
I think you're supposed to use that threaded part to secure the blade into the handle. The part you used to screw the crystal in... pop the center bit out and use the threaded ring and pass it down the blade and screw it tightly down to keep the blade secure and the electronics connected tightly. That's probably why you're experiencing issues.
@Chosen One got the Mace one, one of the best ones you can get honestly. Only problem with mine is the middle switch to turn on and off, is a little loose on mine
I got I've been collecting lightsabers for a long time, I got 2 Darth maul ones so I can make the double bladed lightsaber, I got Vader's, I got maces, kylo's, Luke's, anakin's, obi wan's
@@darthvader3155 my guy!!! Yeah I'm still new to getting them, got the Mace one for my Bday back in dec and now counts this one as in the uk, the preorders released on the 31st August. Want to get Sidious Black series one Theory showed off in a few videos ago
@@Harry50cal i want a yellow lightsaber and i figured they'd release Rey's. I don't really like Rey as a character that much but her gold/yellow lightsaber though is pretty cool and it's exactly how I'd want mine just an all black handle with a gold blade
Ah Palpatine's is cool. Too bad they didn't use the moter sound like Maul's for it. That's my favorite moter sound. Sounds to me kinda like an electrical curent. Like it's just waiting to electrocute you. It just can't wait to electrocute you. The last we hear of that moter in a real cool way was the eraced seen with that woman Jedi in ROTS. I wander what they used to make that sound. Pluss all the manlie prequal swings.
Clearly inspired by it. The lack of this barely being mentioned makes me wonder how many Revan fans played or even saw the OG Kotor. No disrespect of course, but I have nostalgia and high regard for the game.
@@HUNDOLOS I noticed that as well, as a severe HK:47 advocate I also have high regard for the KOTOR games. Hope we can see a decent Revan story in the future of star wars sometime.
Watching you play with those like a young kid brings a smile to my face. Cause even tho I’m in my early 30s I would be so excited, and be playing with them the same way. Probably have to call my nephew over for a nighttime duel lol. Awesome lightsaber!!!! Love everything about it!!!!
Also it would be cool if they made Revan's Lightsaber have the capability to change from Purple to Blue and to red just by pressing the button. Like you turn it on with 1 press it's purple, 2 press blue, 3 press red or that every time you turn it off and turn it back on again the colors change or something along those lines like that😸
@@teamscarce528 no his purple lightsaber depending on which side of the force be was lining towards would go from Purple to Blue if he lined towards the light and Ted for the dark side his second lightsaber he had after he became a Jedi again was a green lightsaber.
They need to make an old-republic live action show - and make that whole era fully cannon, so many great stories. And since it doesn't really affect any of the other things, it wouldn't ruin anything in terms of lore. But just having a whole bunch of sith and jedi fight... oh man. Also the character of Revan, yes please
I only had those malfunctions at the start, when I didn't lock the blade in properly. It could also be that your battery pack maybe isn't properly secured or rather got loose after you swung the blade around.
The one from Vader's vault will blow your mind! I'm in the custom saber community and build my own sabers. Vader's vault is a top tier sabersmith. You will love it!
I know I am super late to this video. But I just picked one up yesterday and one cool thing I found is if you pull the Kyber Crystal out while it is on, it will actually hold a charge for awhile and glow the color outside of the hilt.
I earnestly hope, that since they've released these two new sabers..that we can expect more in the future. Possibly Anakin's or Ahsoka's sabers? It would make them a crap ton of money.
Looks awesome!!! Revan is the favorite Jedi/Sith for both me and my brother, so I'm really hoping to be able to save up enough to snag one of these in time for his 21st birthday in October. He doesn't have any lightsaber replicas yet and I really wanted to do something special for this birthday. Your review has completely sold me on this one.
“IF rEvAn WaS AcTuAlLy TrAiNiNg wiTH ThIS” 😂 you crack me up bro, didn’t even finish this review and I ordered Darth Revans saber, great review man, another one to add to the collection
Lol I've actually dueled so much with my own Vader ESB and Anakin RotS that the blades are dented and the LEDs don't even light up properly anymore. Nice that you preserved yours ;)
I remember when Borders Bookstores selling lightsabers during the time of the prequel trilogy. They initially sold for $50 USD, which jumped to $80 for the 2nd film, and $125 for the final film.
The LEDs in the blade can emit any color. So green is within the capability. But the colors are programmed.. so I'd assume there was some kind of short or surge between the hilt and blade connection.
When he said "I waited a long time for" in the beginning I wish he would've said in his sidious voice. I know it's not the exact quote, but I live his sidious voice😂😂
Statement: Impressive, most impressive Master Theory! 💯💯💯👏👏👏⚔️⚔️⚔️💪💪💪. This unboxing made want to play KOTOR once again, Revan is just a beast in his game, and the lore of the old republic in general.
Lucky man I really want Revan's Lightsaber and his Mandalorian mask as well as the rest of his armour. But all I have is the 1 lightsaber my dad made for me which may have a red light but it goes well with it but that doesn't mean I'm a Sith or a Jedi I'm just in the middle 😸
I still have Vader's saber from Master Replicas and it still works like new, woosh when swung, clashes when struck and full activate and deactivate animation with all sounds
@@obi-wankenobi4190 How do you grip it? I feel like the only proper grip you could have is an Ahsoka/Starkiller style reverse grip and that's definitely not my preferred style.
@@jakobfel2 ye the Asoka savers batter but the revan one when I got it a while back I thought it would be really impractical so I had a little dual with my brother to try it and when we were fighting I didn’t really feel a diffrence kinda feels normal especially when u hold it backwards (as revan does) then it really is quite good
Bro if you really wanna get something that feels like a real lightsaber, you are gonna have to purchase from aftermarket places. like Vaders vault. They are a lot more expensive but look and feel a lot more like real lightsabers with smooth swing and really bright blades.
I worked my ass off back in 2002 so i could by my first ever Anakin lightsaber from Master Replicas. I remember when i turn on that lightsaber at the cinema seconds before the logo of Star Wars hit the screen everyone was screaming cause of the high quality of the light from the saber.
Darth Revan.......that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
Especially from disney
By about 20 years I think.
@@georgejcox9241 really? I consider him to be a pretty well known character.
@@sum_dude4434 so disney ruined that as well is that it?
@@thewizard7396 Well the game came out about 2000.
DURACELL: Trusted by more Jedi and Sith than any other power source for more than 10,000 years.
Kyber Chrystals: am I a joke to you?
🤣🤣🤣
@@CRXnick plot twist : Kyber Crystal's are durrecel batteries
Hahaha! A Jedi’s best friend.
Lmao well played
He missed out on an opportunity to say a fine addition to my collection.
He got it in the description at least. also love u ani sorry u almost got burned to death
It's a good, at least I got a cool suit in return.
Anakin Skywalker too bad it gives you an incredible amount of pain with the use of needles and more :( I'll stick to cosplay hehe
Have we ever seen his collection??
Don’t you mean MY collection
"Question: Why have you meat bags not liked, commented, or and subscribed?"
"Exclamatory: I wouldn't upset my master meat bags."
"Question: Negotiations ar pointless master. I suggest more... 'Aggressive' tactics."
Love the reference, but the last one is more of a "Suggestion", really
@@JohnySlama lol I originally had it as HK asking if he wanted him to kill the meat bags, but I changed it so yeah 😅 lol
@@JohnySlama but thanks! 😎🤙
I'd be terrified if he said "Question" and just kills everyone in the room afterwards xD
@@troha_halen BAHAHAHA🤣🤣🤣🤣 He's like: ok things have gotten too boring
"HK-47 ready to serve master theory"
Meat bags!
Query: Did you forget to put statement?
Hello there
E-123 OMEGA: I WONDER IF MY PREDECESSOR UNIT E-102 GAMMA & I WERE INSPIRED BY THE HK-SERIES.
"Shall we find something to kill to cheer ourselves up?"- HK-47
I wonder who Dave had to sacrifice to make this get released lol
Apparently according to season 7 of clone wars almost all of ahsoka legion with some 501st and regular troops and an arc trooper
He sacrificed Talos
@@marzouk6270 what is talos
@@0ninja213 A guy from Elder scrolls
Rip the all mighty Talos
Show off your whole collection like Grievous would
Yes
Does he have that many arms tho
@@ThibautVDP yes
ThibautVDP the power of editing is a pathway to many abilities
Those would make fine additions to my collection.
In all my 20 years of star wars fandom, I have never felt more like a nerd than I do now sitting here watching Theory play with his lightsaber 😂 I thank you, Theory!
Theory needs a channel dedicated to reviewing these lightsabers
When you get used to seeing someone bald you can no longer imagine them with hair.
That's how we like it!!
I believe star wars theory is a sith lord.
Mace : a sith lord?!
"Then our worst fears has been realized."
Yes the one we've been looking for.
Mace windu is not a sith and now there are more chances that the darth legend does and comeback hope it’s legendary comeback if he come again
If what you’ve told me is true then you will have gained my trust
A sith LAWD*
I love it when a Star Wars RUclips makes a lightsaber review.
Any series with Revan must be the greatest Star Wars series ever, there can be no interference from Disney’s creative officers. The Lucas films core must be completely unchained in their efforts.
This is easily the most glorious fx saber ever, but I'm surprised at how easy you're holding it
That looks super uncomfortable to hold
Thats why the gloves...
@@renascitur7051 fair fair
Renascitur That would still be uncomfortable
You think so?? What about... the Dooku?
5:35 When Kylo first made his lightsaber
6:37
@@SonicAvalanche OHH that's BEAUU-TY-FUULL
Underrated comment
😂😂😂
"Why is it flickering?"
Man the sound of anakin saber is so iconic and powerful sounding
This will make a fine addition to my collection...
Darth Revan coolest character it’s only fitting he has the coolest lightsaber the sith of his era took so much inspiration from his design
PS: you’re collection was that one for general grievous
Revan is only cool because You're Revan lol
Revan has the best looking lightsaber period.
Dooku
thnka
thx
Dr strange comes :
I’ve come to bargain
Daniel B. What's your favourite lightsaber design?
A fine addition to your collection
I don’t get why everyone reduces my boy to a Sith Lord. Just call him Revan 😩
Btw awesome lightsaber 😍
He is all things, yet he is nothing.
A Sith Lord ?!?!
To be fair the crappy Disney canon only knows Revan as a Sith
Peace Is A Lie There Is Only Passion Disney didn’t learn a thing from Kreia’s teachings... :(
True he walked the path of both jedi and sith, yet forever stood alone
my wallet:you dont need it
my wallet:you dont need it
my wallet:you dont need it
me:I NEED ITTT
Gut that thing like a ton ton
it is how it is
Dew it
Same hahah
JUST DO IT
why is no one talking about how uncomfortable that hilt looks to hold
We all try to ignore the impracticality of lightsaber designs I’m guessing
After owning 4 different Revan hilts, I can confirm it actually isn’t comfortable. The design looks bulkier than it actually feels.
I have this one and I find it pretty uncomfortable
@@billyd530111 the black series one was designed terribly and inaccurate
Imagine if he broke it while doing all of this
You just gave me a horrible image. Ty 😑
Don't.........just no
@@ThataGhost66 same...
Bruh
I'm pretty sure he would cry
4:08 he just pointed a lightsaber to his face( very dangerous)
“A little more edgy” (shows picture of Hayden)
Which movie is that pic from?
@@sambridgers9543 I googled "emo hayden christensen" and it's from "Life as a House" (2001)
@@gmetalpre Ah, the film that got him a Golden Globe nomination.
Revan has always been my favourite force user, Jedi or Sith. His saber is so iconic and his known background of being a literal rift between the light and darksides of the force is one of the most interesting of all.
Also, as far as we know he's the oldest force user to use a purple lightsaber. Then maybe a couple others and then Mace. I also wish his other saber was more well known.
If there was a cheaper Revan saber on the market that was also decent quality, I'd have my hands on it in seconds lmao
3:31 So now we know,Revan’s saber runs on Duracell AA. Noice👍😉
Lol they call them kyber crystals because they're too embarrassed. The death star is powered by a bunch of AAs
What, cant believe you actually believe that theyre run on crystals. Fun fact the Death Star is pedal-powered
I think you're supposed to use that threaded part to secure the blade into the handle.
The part you used to screw the crystal in... pop the center bit out and use the threaded ring and pass it down the blade and screw it tightly down to keep the blade secure and the electronics connected tightly.
That's probably why you're experiencing issues.
i do this and mine is still wiggly
This is so funny! Literally just got my Count Dooku lightsaber through the post!, and unboxed it and all, lovely thing.
5 mins later: this video 😂😂
Wait, they made a Count Dooku FX lightsaber?
@Chosen One got the Mace one, one of the best ones you can get honestly.
Only problem with mine is the middle switch to turn on and off, is a little loose on mine
I got I've been collecting lightsabers for a long time, I got 2 Darth maul ones so I can make the double bladed lightsaber, I got Vader's, I got maces, kylo's, Luke's, anakin's, obi wan's
@@darthvader3155 my guy!!! Yeah I'm still new to getting them, got the Mace one for my Bday back in dec and now counts this one as in the uk, the preorders released on the 31st August.
Want to get Sidious Black series one Theory showed off in a few videos ago
@@Harry50cal i want a yellow lightsaber and i figured they'd release Rey's. I don't really like Rey as a character that much but her gold/yellow lightsaber though is pretty cool and it's exactly how I'd want mine just an all black handle with a gold blade
Me explaining The Old Republic Era to my friend: „Imagine an Army of Jedi clashing with an Army of Sith. Sounds pretty cool, right?!“
Too epic
Do a vid showing off and comparing all of your lightsabers when palpatine’s comes in
Ah Palpatine's is cool. Too bad they didn't use the moter sound like Maul's for it. That's my favorite moter sound. Sounds to me kinda like an electrical curent. Like it's just waiting to electrocute you. It just can't wait to electrocute you. The last we hear of that moter in a real cool way was the eraced seen with that woman Jedi in ROTS. I wander what they used to make that sound. Pluss all the manlie prequal swings.
I just want The Old Republic movies to be made
All true Star Wars fans do, but we want them made competently
Anytime Revan is in the conversation it’s a good day.
Revan is definitely one of my favorite characters in the Star Wars universe!
Same
Darth Revan’s lightsaber looks beautiful
This is one best star wars channels out there on youtube!
Keep it going!
0:04 "I've waited a long time for this"
Long have I awaited
Ive been looking foward to this
It was foretold that you would be here. Our long awaited meeting has come at last.
The transition from purple to red was so nice. Such a cool saber.
Looks beautiful, was waiting to see how this one turned out, hopefully next we can get Ahsoka's original lightsaber that goes from green to blue.
I REALLY loved this, especially with the music while you were taking it out of the box.
Revan is my favourite Star Wars Character or at least in my top 5, Great Vid!!
Revan's lightsaber kinda looks like the Star Forge from Kotor.
Clearly inspired by it. The lack of this barely being mentioned makes me wonder how many Revan fans played or even saw the OG Kotor. No disrespect of course, but I have nostalgia and high regard for the game.
@@HUNDOLOS I noticed that as well, as a severe HK:47 advocate I also have high regard for the KOTOR games. Hope we can see a decent Revan story in the future of star wars sometime.
@@HUNDOLOS yes when I first saw it I saw the star forge look to it. That was a long time ago.
I only know of Kotor 1 and 2.
What an amazing GLORIOUS lightsaber that is my friend "the force is strong with you master"
Watching you play with those like a young kid brings a smile to my face. Cause even tho I’m in my early 30s I would be so excited, and be playing with them the same way. Probably have to call my nephew over for a nighttime duel lol. Awesome lightsaber!!!! Love everything about it!!!!
Love that this is my vey first lightsaber to own
Lightsabers have gotten so much better over time. It's glorious.
Also it would be cool if they made Revan's Lightsaber have the capability to change from Purple to Blue and to red just by pressing the button. Like you turn it on with 1 press it's purple, 2 press blue, 3 press red or that every time you turn it off and turn it back on again the colors change or something along those lines like that😸
green not blue its more kotor
@@teamscarce528 no his purple lightsaber depending on which side of the force be was lining towards would go from Purple to Blue if he lined towards the light and Ted for the dark side his second lightsaber he had after he became a Jedi again was a green lightsaber.
Mogwia Wolf your pfp is hella nutty 😩💦
@@MonsieurEldritch 😸 i just like Revan a lot
@@mogwiawolf4354 i know just like green
I like how the thing makes noise but he still does the little mouth noises whenever he’s playing with it.
Once they release Ahsokas Lightsabers in the black series my wallet is gunna light itself on fire.
Like a chosen one on Mustafar
So true my friend for A lot of us as well.
@@scifinut6155 Ouch on that. But true.
Well if you can get to Galaxy's Edge, they have her fulcrum sabers and will soon have her clone wars sabers as well
Don't buy fx ahsoka go to galaxy edge and buy them much better quality and sound
They need to make an old-republic live action show - and make that whole era fully cannon, so many great stories. And since it doesn't really affect any of the other things, it wouldn't ruin anything in terms of lore. But just having a whole bunch of sith and jedi fight... oh man. Also the character of Revan, yes please
If you're reading this, may the force be with you...
Always...
May the force be with you
And also with you!
Bruh
I just ordered a Luke ROTJ lightsaber with a neopixel setup. I cant wait for it to arrive. May the force be with you!
DEW A GIVEAWAY! DEW IT FOR THE REPUBLIC!!
Don't be a beggar
I only had those malfunctions at the start, when I didn't lock the blade in properly.
It could also be that your battery pack maybe isn't properly secured or rather got loose after you swung the blade around.
Actually this is one of my favourite Light sabers, the handle is REALLY unique.
Hilt
Yeah but the holding it looks uncomfortable
The one from Vader's vault will blow your mind! I'm in the custom saber community and build my own sabers. Vader's vault is a top tier sabersmith. You will love it!
I'd love theory to make a vid showing more of his lightsabers and other star wars relics
I know I am super late to this video. But I just picked one up yesterday and one cool thing I found is if you pull the Kyber Crystal out while it is on, it will actually hold a charge for awhile and glow the color outside of the hilt.
Revan's lightsaber is nice but in my opinion, Count Dooku's force FX lightsaber is the best!
I just got Dookus today.
@@ajsmovieplace his curved saber and fighting style is so badass thus making it into my second favorite star wars villain.
Fr just and elegant weapon...
Dookus is very nice but my only
Disappointment with it is the clash effect is weak as you have to hit the hilt and not the blade to get it to work
Richard Hall - I’ll have to check that out. I opened it literally half hour ago. Not yet put batteries in.
I swear Star Wars Theory and Star Wars IRL are the two BEST SW RUclipsrs on RUclips
I earnestly hope, that since they've released these two new sabers..that we can expect more in the future. Possibly Anakin's or Ahsoka's sabers? It would make them a crap ton of money.
Omg ashokas yesss
Awesome Saber🤩I still have my Luke’s from 1980. Compare that to this new Saber, totally blown away!! Nice 👍
I clicked to hear the, "We would be honored if you would join us."
You are my favorite Star Wars RUclipsr ever!!!!!!! Your amazing! I will follow you to the end of time
When are you going to talk about me ?
This is getting out of hand now there are two of them
Hello , Ben
Hello there! 👋🏾
@@bazanime general Kenobi
Never master you are not relevant, everyone likes me
Looks awesome!!! Revan is the favorite Jedi/Sith for both me and my brother, so I'm really hoping to be able to save up enough to snag one of these in time for his 21st birthday in October. He doesn't have any lightsaber replicas yet and I really wanted to do something special for this birthday. Your review has completely sold me on this one.
I just recently defeated Revan on my sith warrior in SWTOR! Greatest fight ever in a swtor game
not great at all swtor just ruins him
“IF rEvAn WaS AcTuAlLy TrAiNiNg wiTH ThIS” 😂 you crack me up bro, didn’t even finish this review and I ordered Darth Revans saber, great review man, another one to add to the collection
1:15 imagine the lightsaber turns on
Lol I've actually dueled so much with my own Vader ESB and Anakin RotS that the blades are dented and the LEDs don't even light up properly anymore. Nice that you preserved yours ;)
New lightsaber gets released:
Star wars theory: this will make a fine addition to my collection
Now we need that Lightsaber and Revan cinematically. I really want a Force FX Lightsaber, maybe I’ll get that one someday.
He said "What in the world" I'm done lmaooo
I remember when Borders Bookstores selling lightsabers during the time of the prequel trilogy.
They initially sold for $50 USD, which jumped to $80 for the 2nd film, and $125 for the final film.
Purple’s always been a pain I think cos they have to combine red and blue
This lightsaber is definitely on my Christmas list. It’s so fricken awesome. Btw I love your videos
I've been looking forward to this
The LEDs in the blade can emit any color. So green is within the capability. But the colors are programmed.. so I'd assume there was some kind of short or surge between the hilt and blade connection.
Star Wars Theory does this company make blasters too?!
When he said "I waited a long time for" in the beginning I wish he would've said in his sidious voice. I know it's not the exact quote, but I live his sidious voice😂😂
“Oh, it’s beautiful”
I just got mine it’s my first lightsaber and it was totally worth.Even more so when Revan is your favorite Sith Lord ever and your 4th favorite Jedi
"Tens of thousands of years older..."
It's 3,900!!! Not +10k!!!
Statement: Impressive, most impressive Master Theory!
💯💯💯👏👏👏⚔️⚔️⚔️💪💪💪.
This unboxing made want to play KOTOR once again, Revan is just a beast in his game, and the lore of the old republic in general.
Lucky man I really want Revan's Lightsaber and his Mandalorian mask as well as the rest of his armour. But all I have is the 1 lightsaber my dad made for me which may have a red light but it goes well with it but that doesn't mean I'm a Sith or a Jedi I'm just in the middle 😸
I still have Vader's saber from Master Replicas and it still works like new, woosh when swung, clashes when struck and full activate and deactivate animation with all sounds
Hey man I’ve been making a RUclips channel and I’ve been using your advise and it is working and I just want to say thanks man ur that best
I just saw some of your videos there really good
I’m obsessed with these Lightsaber videos!! lol. My whole feed is NeoPixel and Smooth Swing
We need Bane's hook handled lightsaber now.
This is where the fun begins!!! This was cool.
I always felt like Revan's lightsaber design would be extremely impractical in combat. It looks cool but it'd be really hard to keep a proper grip.
It’s actually pretty nice
@@obi-wankenobi4190 How do you grip it? I feel like the only proper grip you could have is an Ahsoka/Starkiller style reverse grip and that's definitely not my preferred style.
@@jakobfel2 ye the Asoka savers batter but the revan one when I got it a while back I thought it would be really impractical so I had a little dual with my brother to try it and when we were fighting I didn’t really feel a diffrence kinda feels normal especially when u hold it backwards (as revan does) then it really is quite good
@@jakobfel2 I assume the grip is because of the dip in the handle things so it doesn’t really slip unless u hold it really lose
@@obi-wankenobi4190 Does it work well with a standard/forward grip? I CAN use the reverse grip but I really do much better with standard grip haha
is it ok if you can put a link in the description to where u got the lightsaber
SWT is literally one of the most wholesome dudes on RUclips
0:43 What movie is this frame from?
Bro if you really wanna get something that feels like a real lightsaber, you are gonna have to purchase from aftermarket places. like Vaders vault. They are a lot more expensive but look and feel a lot more like real lightsabers with smooth swing and really bright blades.
Glad to see my boy Revan getting some love! Have an ultrasabers one and waiting on one from vader vault
I worked my ass off back in 2002 so i could by my first ever Anakin lightsaber from Master Replicas. I remember when i turn on that lightsaber at the cinema seconds before the logo of Star Wars hit the screen everyone was screaming cause of the high quality of the light from the saber.
Dude! That's sick! I wish they would make a series about Darth Raven.
*Cough cough* another fine addition to my collection!
I want one so bad!
I love Darth Revan. He's one of my favorite Old Republic characters!