Ziss Artemia Blender - Is This Brine Shrimp Hatchery Worth It?
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- There's been a few videos lately covering the Ziss Brine Hatchery, so let's take a look at my experience and determine if this thing is worth the price tag.
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I’ve been hatching brine shrimp for over 40 years in a glass pickle jar. To collect the BBS, remove the air and let the BBS settle for a few minutes. Siphon them out using a piece of air line. Absolutely no reason to spend that kind of money on another RUclips hyped product. 1/2 gal pickle jar at Sams Club, $3.54. The pickles are a bonus 😉👍
As far as BBS eggs, Brine Shrimp Direct 90% hatch eggs (16 oz can) is a significantly better value (per ounce) when compared to “other” BBS eggs. +1for storing them in a freezer.
I agree. I don't see spending 50 bucks on a plastic jug when the rest is bad. I get my eggs from the same place as Bentley too. They are cheap and have a good etsy shop.
Like you, I have been raising fish and hatching brine shrimp for over 40 years. I use two - 2 liter soda bottle. When harvesting, I just take the airline out and aim a small LED light towards the bottom. 8-10 minutes later, I use an airline hose attached to a rigid plastic straw to drain the BBS. I have been using Brine Shrimp Direct and find this product a great value. I remember paying $7.50 for a pound of brine shrimp eggs. The cost of 2 Ziss brine shrimp blender is roughly the cost of 2 cans of Brine Shrimp Direct 90% hatch eggs. I will keep my money.
You should start some reviews of this and the ziss filter 😉
@@phreakerbythespeaker9902 Eh maybe someday. Right now I'm chasing a toddler around.
Couldn't agree more and +1 on the bonus pickles
I run one almost every day. You can gently heat and bend the hard tube to get the outlet centered or use the softer airline tubing as mentioned. I need a heater because I don't heat the house much and if I do, not to a tempterature near high enough. I had to look around and it took some trial and error with heaters I have, but I found the Fluval 50 watt works great (the problem with many is because of the design the minimum water line on the heater isn't close enough to the liquid). I put the airline outlet right next to the heater so there is plenty of flow over the heater. In addition to the salt, I add a pinch (1/4 teaspoon-ish/2 liters?) of baking soda. Ya, the stand sux. Cory just posted a video for a simple diy pvc stand that I'll probably have a go at. The blender works great. No fuss. No muss. Great hatch rates. I haven't had the problem of eggs collecting in corners. They will collect at the top if you overfill it. To me, it isn't cheap but given the quality, it is a good value. Well worth it if you are in the hobby for the long run. Fish big and small are loving the live food. My brichardi spawned not long after I got the blender so the timing was perfect. Algorithm now triggered... No, I'm not sponsored.
Thanks for mentioning which heater works with the unit. The heater option will make it a better cost value to me.
Hi,
I needed a heater for my Hatcher and I used a nano heater, these things are very small and fit through the hole at the top. It’s a 10 watt that is set to 25 degrees so no adjustment needed, it’s got 2 suckers on it so I stuck it to the side, keeps a constant temperature and only 10watts so costs virtually nothing to run ?
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so say we all
Same man
An extra bump 3 years on.
I enjoy a non biased opinion. Happy that always seems to be a part of this channel.
I know being sponsered is monitarily helpful but one of the reasons so many of us love you and trust you is because you are honest about what you think and not just selling a product for financial gain.
Dude, finally a legit review on this thing. I totally agree.. thanks Bentley!
I currently use 1.5 litre water bottles which cost nothing. I run an airline into it with an airstone and when I need to harvest I just run a piece of airline tubing into a plastic container. Would I consider purchasing this product as it stands? - Well it undoubtedly looks better than my home made system, I can't deny that but is it worth spending $50 dollars just for aesthetics? I don't think so. What are you actually getting for your money? A plastic container with a lid, a stand which is unusable and a valve which is really awkward to reach. Is that worth the money? - I don't think so.
I've been on the fence about this. Really wanted one but appreciate the REAL review. Agree with you, priced is waaaay too high. $25 tops.
As always, you are the man to listen to. You take it to the next level, break it down and find the small details and the effects they have. Always something to learn from you. thanks
I bought it the day Cory put it up on the website. I've loved it. I do really wish the stand wasn't useless.
I have one, like it. Yes, about $10 to expensive but sturdy.Find attaching the plastic straw to a bit of air tubing at the top very helpful to getting best agitation by getting the end of the straw to the very bottom. I use a 25 watt heater in the top that I got given to me with some free 10 gal tanks. All in all it works great, has a sturdy feel to work with and don't miss the floppy soda bottles. Happy I bought it. Like t see a video or some pics of the various mounting systems people have made.
Thanks Bentley, enjoy you stuff.
Dude, this channel is awesome. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
@@ILOVEYOUHALFISH thank you for watching!
Thank you for the video! I have this and 100% agree with you about this product. My only complaint is how the eggs collect at the bottom. I ordered the aquarium coop eggs so can't wait to see if that helps.
Fish Boy actually just put out a great comparison of co-op vs brine shrimp direct eggs
I did buy one...the stand like you mentioned is a pain / horrible design so I did my own DIY stand out of PVC, works great!
I have two, I prefer running the air through the bottom drain 👍
Love the blender. Will buy a second one.
Thanks for your review, Bentley! It’s nice to see unbiased reviews for this. I’ve thought about getting this because I’m terrible at DIY and I need things to be plug and it play.
I'm pretty terrible with DIY as well, as we can see I was willing to spend money on it.
I just pick up whole thing as it sits in the holder/stand and open nozzle and set it AND stand over a pitcher to drain...so stand height doesn't matter. Also my water needs a tiny pinch of baking soda for buffering ( I have 0 kh) and I have a lamp with incandescent bulb to keep it warm.
I have 2 of these and agree it is a little expensive, with that being said, its ease of you I feel helps offsets some of the cost. I run airline out of the drain. My method is, I hang the blender and the stand when I'm ready to collect the LBB, and the only time I remove the blender from the stand is to clean it after draining. The airline extended from the drain gives all the room I need to turn the knob from the bottom and start draining the LBB into a container.
I really like mine.I do agree on the stand issues. Mine is hanging on one of my tanks.
Love the honesty and transparency
I just got one the other day, my fish went nuts for them. I'm glad I bought it, you're right, the stand sucks except for sitting it in.
Appreciate you and your honest reviews!
While I don’t currently have my tank setup yet, I truly appreciate your unadulterated reviews. Your reviews have allowed me to make a check list, and to start acquiring items that I’m gong to want/need. Thank you for investing your time to help out the hobby!
I’m in the process of working on a layout for my aquascape, with plant types, styles, colors, etc. when I get it done, I’d like to send it to you and get your opinion. I also have a list of fish I’m considering, that I’d like your opinion on, if that’s OK.
Happy to help, but I'm a horrid aquascaper
@@BentleyPascoe, well that’s your opinion, but when it comes to plants I can think of nobody better. 😁
Thanks for you honesty I was on the fence about getting this I think I'll keep using what I have till the price goes down or they make a better one
Thanks for the honest review. So many others are fanboying and just trying to market the zeiss
Decent and honest, proper review, letting us know both the cons and the pros. Thanks!
I just bought a gallon plastic jug of pork rinds from Walmart, put a $1 car wash sponge in the bottom and wedged in a soda bottle. DIY’d air line tube through the pop bottle cap with silicone and hooked it up to my air pump and I was ready to go. $15 max in construction and satisfaction of creating something on my own, plus it’s easily disassembled for cleaning. Can’t beat the smooth sides of the pop bottle for keeping the cysts from sticking to the side. I love Ziss products but I can spend that money in other places in my fishroom.
I did order the ziss blender from aquarium co op. Should be arriving this week. It will be my first brine shrimp hatchery, I hope it goes well, just starting to breed apistos and shelldwellers, I figured might as well try it. I agree it’s a pricey item for what you get.
It’s awesome. I have 3 running nonstop. Best hatchery by far.
Thank you for this video I knew I was forgetting something🙂👍🏻
Insane price for what you get!!! I've got eight 2.5 liter DIY hatcheries running at all times alternating 4 one day and 4 the next to be able to keep up with the amount of fish I need to feed everyday. Total cost for all eight of my hatcheries that work HONESTLY, just as good, $42.00 or a little over $5.00 ea!!!!!! Total cost of eight of the Ziss hatcheries would be over $360.00!!!!!!!!!! It's a no brainer and should be for anyone with even the slightest bit of common sense.
Thanks for the honesty Bentley. Although you presented both sides fairly, you helped me decide this is worth purchasing
Appreciate the honesty and too the point.
45.00 really I like father fish's idea much better. Watch his too funny, he is adorable.
I use it and think it works great
Same, the pricing is insane, 60 bucks for a thick plastic bottle? no thank you.
I just use 2 liter soda bottles, if you use a new toilet brush it also fits perfectly for cleaning.
Thank you
I just ordered one from the co-op for my first hatchery. Thank you for your video. I would be interested to know your long-term feelings about it.
It's still pretty in line with what I said here. If you build some of the DIY holder options folks have done, it becomes even and better.
Such an unbiased assessment on the product
Thank you. 😁👍🇬🇧
Always useful info from you. Thank you 👍
Have you thought about trying to run air through the bottom of the hatchery? I know your gonna have quite the amount of head pressure but enough air should take care of that. Also about the fairly stiff air line try to put it in hot water and it should soften up enough to fit over the attachment point. I don’t have it yet but I’m planning to get it soon.
So that entry point is pretty large, larger than a standard airline connection, which makes it hard... I tried actually.
i like mine have two off them and my fish love baby brine shrimp
Always quality content
Thanks for the video, thought I was the only one having some minor issues with the unit as you mentioned. Im just getting back into breeding fish and obviously an in need of bbs. Always use to raise them in glass mason jars years ago with no issues. Still trying to get this dialed in but haven't had the best of luck thus far. But haven't given up hope yet going to try your suggestions and see what happens.Thank you
I appreciate the non-biased review on this product. No aftershow segment today?
Not for this one
Just bought it.... expensive for some plastic. But, needed and worth it in the end. Thx for the review :)
Thank you Bentley.
Thanks for the info. That would make a really good Christmas present! - Little Bobby
Bentley, Thanks for taking the time to make this video. We just ordered this product and look forward to using it. How do you heat your brine shrimp hatchery and what temp do you keep it at? Not sure if I want to use the light bulb method or get a heater to fit into the hatchery. Thanks.
I've previously used a light bulb, currently it's in a room I heat.
I have one and my cichlids love it.
Subscribed and liked. Next, let me say I like Aquarium Co-op but... I've bought from them three maybe four times. I've had as many as 7 tanks, currently sitting at 6. I like rainbowfish and currently have Zig Zag and Dwarf Neon rainbows. I've raised many a rainbow, and regular brine shrimp increases the success/growth rate a lot over fry powder foods. I have three brine shrimp hatcheries, all purchased for ~$15. All three are half size compared to Co-op product. The first was great, and sufficient for the day available. Hence the need for another hatchery as I'm left without during the setup. The other two hatcheries I have are terrible and should be thrown away. I wanted to buy the first again, but no longer available via Amazon and shipping was like $30 so... not happening. I've almost bought the hatchery shown from Co-op recently (and I actually did make an order where Xtreme food was overpriced on Amazon). However, this isn't the first negative review on the stand I've seen, and I don't want to DIY. I don't want to pay $45 for the hatchery and I certainly don't want to add $7 shipping. There are many great products at the Co-op like the USB air pumps, nano sponge filters, pink crypts, etc. but all too often one or more things are sold out and I can't reach $100 and/or $45 is just $5 too much for me that day ($52 is usually $12 too much). Anyway, that's my thought on it. If I knew I'd be 100% happy with the product I'd shell it out, but 85% happy with the product and 100% unhappy with my pocketbook just hasn't added up for me yet.
Thanks man...
i actually completely agree with your review, I had the same exact issues with the size of the "underbelly". The only way to use this properly is to hang it, which makes the stand useless...
Good product but it needs some work for your average hobbyist to use (although its not for your average is it?)
I have come the same conclusions you have regarding this hatcher. I have to say, I do have ridiculously small "little kid hands," so accessing the hatched shrimp is easier for me. I have found that stuffing silicone airline tubing with a shut-off valve, into the rigid exit tube makes it easier to collect the shrimp. It seems to fit just snug enough that there is no leaking, but it is still easy to remove for cleaning as needed. One caveat, here; I can't guarantee this will work for everyone without leaking, but so far, so good, for me, but it's only been in use a few days. The traditional tubing may not work as well. As far as the shortcomings of this product, I think many quality aquarium products out there some have aspect about them we would like to change. I couldn't agree more about the benefit of the thick plastic blender. I dropped a full blender full of beautiful newly hatched baby brine all over my tile floor. The mess was as you would expect, but not a crack or scratch on the container. If you are a casual hobbyist, with few aquariums, the soda bottle setup, where you screw the bottle into a platform works well. But, I was bitten by the "aquarium bug" almost 50 years ago. Now that I am recently retired, I have increased my fish breeding activities. For me, this hatcher works very well for me.
Not a crack on a full blender? Good to hear it was up to the test! Thanks for sharing your experience and keep enjoying the baby fish!
I know, amazing. No guarantee it won't crack, but still. I know cheaper hatching systems work as well, but I am also in a situation where I want my work area to look a certain way. Just shows you there are many ways to be successful in this hobby, some cheap, some more expensive. For me, I wanted something that would last a long time, being on a relatively fixed income. A jar full of guppies given to me by my childhood best friend's brother got me started. I will probably end my fish keeping with guppies, too!
I just watched your video and was wondering if you could hook up your air pump to the bottom port and open up the valve to allow the air to come into the bottom, which to me would make it easier.
It's too wide to fit an airline sadly
For $45 I'll pass on it. I'll stick with my 2 liter soda bottles with a CO2 cap. Been running them for over 2 years now no problems.
Agreed Definitely over priced. But what is not over priced today? Just noticed plants went up at the coop
Prices for most places will go up year over year, but I've found they're still cheaper than a number of places for potted plants.
Hi Bentley
I will stick with my cheat soda bottle brime shrimp hatchery all day long. When I saw you try and reach under the hatchery and couldn't reach the valve, that was a big turn off . Plus when I buy something I want it to work, I don't want to add anything to it. I want to take it out of the box turn it on and it does it jod. If I have to make a pvc type of handle or use a 2×4 and nail it to the wall. Just so I can get my hand under it , that a joke. And the best one they make a fancy top for heater and thermometer. But they can't line up the air port so it reaches to the center of the bottom. YOU have to get a flexible tubing and attach it to one end and then it will slide to the center. What happened if
Pops off when you're not there, there goes your whole batch of brine shrimp. Not thanks if I got to do all that, I will just make my own. Poor design!!! And not user friendly !!! I know Bentley you couldn't say it was a total waste of money. But I can .
#fallriverfishguy
Yep, do agree with all the cons you cited, but I do like the durability. I dropped the glass thermometer and broke it in day one, though.
The co op black tubing fits nicely through the spout for extra air agitation, but I still think the shape is less than optimal. Would it have cost more to manufacture a cone with the same handle and spout?
Just got a ziss blender first thing I did was change the air stone but here in Canada the air stone was diffrent. and the hard ridged tube was way to long which was good great product and easy to use. the stand is good but not great.
This is design for Asian people since they have small hands, it might not work for the Western since they have big hands
For me I’m just... I already run two of the 2-liter soda bottle hatcheries and I don’t really understand the “scoop them out of the bottom of the hatchery” idea.
I drain my brine shrimp from the airline underneath so I can get them all. I drain them through a brine shrimp sieve. *shrug* seems to work well.
That's how I harvest from the Zeiss...from the bottom thru a strainer.
So I am not sold on it because of the price... However once I get my fish room going I'll probably get one or two to replace the pop bottle hatchers. Like you I would like to hatch more at once and which is why I run two but at 12hours apart
Hey Bentley!!! I just subbed. I'm designing a new hatchery. I'm trying to make the best kit ever offered. I've been modeling and printing and brain storming for a couple weeks now. I should be ready in about a month. Once I'm ready can I send you one for free so you can review it? My kit might be a game changer!!!or it might not. Haha.
Sure
I am planning to get one of these but man that price is kinda high.
Wish it came with a heater
Hard to beat the quantities you can get with this...but the unhatched eggs in the bottom are a real drag. I freeze mine after rinsing them and the first few times I did this my ice cubes were half cysts. I am doing my next batch with Corey's eggs, we'll see. Anyone else freeze theirs? It's so convenient, a huge batch is like a week of feedings for me that way.
Greg Sage I believe does that as well
It’s just over half that price in Australia when you convert Aussie dollars to American.
Not another Ziss review... jk thanks for the honest opinion!
I have one 👍
Bentley, do you have any recommendations for a brine shrimp hatchery that is more affordable? I'm not a big DIY guy. I don't have a lot of tanks so I don't need a big one either. Price and size are both drawbacks to ziss for me.
I can't find the kind I used before but this style is all over ebay: www.ebay.com/itm/233674572443
Looks simple a do might do the trick well. Otherwise I would look at the San Francisco Bay brands base you just plug a 2 liter bottle into. Those are effective, and it's limited work, just a little cut with a kitchen knife on the two liter.
@@BentleyPascoe happy to report I hatched brine for the first time using this yesterday. Def still more to learn especially how to better get the brine shrimp out without the shells better but it worked!!
i bought the ziss brine shrimp hatchery, went back to the 2 liter bottles did not care for the ziss. wish i would have seen this video before i bought it. to me this was a waste of money. joe h navy seabee
My cousin is a Seabee!
I did my hatchery with a 2litter soda bottle
Thank you for your honest opinion. Much appreciated.
2 liter soda bottle, Been doing this for 30 yrs. There's always a gimmick.....
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