As a sound engineer and technical director for over 20 years, I echo everything he is saying about these different mic lines from Shure. I’ve used all the major brands - Shure, Sennheiser, Audio-Technica, etc. I have always leaned towards Shure products for their durability and reliability. I have had experience with all these lines plus the ULX. For me the SLX systems have been the most solid performer for the money. In a lot of medium to larger venues I always pair these systems with an antenna distribution system with the amplified flag style antennae to boost the signal. Almost a non-negotiable when operating a good number of mics in large spaces with lots of people.
Dropouts can happen anywhere with ANY wireless system... So here's a suggestion from someone who owns several Shure wireless systems including BLX, SLX, GLX and have used them for many years without any major problems. I even combine different series together during an event that requires multiple mics (Panels, Live Performances, Q&A's, etc.) WHENEVER you arrive at a venue, press and hold the group button on the receiver and let it scroll to automatically calibrate the receiver to the best channel to use then match the transmitter device (Handheld Mic, Headset, Lav, etc.) to that channel as well. Each venue has channel ranges that are problematic but Shure has built in this convenient feature to quickly locate channels with the best signal strength between transmitter and receiver available in each specific scenario. It may even be necessary to re scan periodically during an event as additional wireless systems users come online at the venue (Security, Maintenance, Production, Housekeeping, Catering, Transportation, Etc. This applies to ANY WIRELESS SYSTEM, so use whatever you like but scan for the best frequencies at any venue on arrival, it can save you a lot of headaches. Hope this is helpful to some of my event production & DJ colleagues :) Here is a scanning tutorial specifically for Shure users: ruclips.net/video/HIK0oVD-PjM/видео.html
Steven Lucky Benson great advice and I want to emphasize what you said about scanning during the event. It’s a good practice to do the scan under the exact conditions when the mic will be in use, so do the scan when the room is full of ppl, not when it’s empty.
@@DJ-Coma Yup, you're on point! Conditions do change throughout an event, so I keep a back up system available (whenever possible) and can have a freshly scanned mic available at the first sign of trouble (dropout, interference, etc.) Plus having FULLY CHARGED BATTERIES is essential. Running a mic on a charge from the last gig is a big NO NO!!! The weaker the batteries, the weaker the signal and more likely for your system to have interference.
I completely understand what you’re saying and I do all the recommended steps but what I want when I’m working is a system that causes the LEAST amount of problems on an event. I can make it work with whatever system but I shouldn’t have to when there are systems that are just better at it from the start.
I’ve had the BLX system for over a year. Used it on dozens of gigs. Nothing wrong with it. No drop outs, boo frequency issues. I roll of low end on all my sm58s wired and the wireless. Sounds fine. I’m not shure (lol) what you are talking about.
CT, just wanted to double back and tell you thank you. Based on this exceptional review/opinion, I purchased the SLX with the Beta58 and I am very impressed by the range and sound.
Thank you for your very informative review. I’m the audio tech at our church. All I really know, is what I learn from videos like yours. We recently purchased the GLX-D. It’s been a problem every since. The sound quality is very poor @ a distance of 20ft. Or less between transmitter and receiver. Now I’m going to see if our pastor will return them for the pgx system. Wish me well with that one.
Based on your stories and recommendation, I recently bought the wireless Shure SLXD24/SM58 microphone, and I'm impressed. Thank you for this informative video. Your comment about dropouts with the BLX stood out. I DJ around 60-70 weddings and events a year. When I started 4 years ago, I bought a $99 wireless microphone that would drop out if someone turned on their phone, causing a lot of stress. I ended up going back to a wired Shure SM58 microphone with a 100-foot XLR. You really get what you pay for with microphones. Thanks again for your recommendations.
As an RF Technician for large production companies the best information I can give is about antenna placement. If your antenna’s can’t see the microphone then you’re bound to have issues. Another rule of thumb is don’t put these small boxes in metal racks with one gear, the metal on the racks block RF signal strength. If you have any of these systems a good distribution system and some paddle antennas would help tremendously. The RF Venue Distro4 is decent but a little pricey with the antenna, around $1500 but well worth it to take care of potential problems (i.e. drop outs)
GLXD owner here. My system has preformed flawlessly over the last 2 years. Range is definitely not an issue for me. Corporate parties to Airshows. The battery system is priceless. The auto frequency switching is flawless. I have 4 GLXD4R rack mounted with the Shure UA846Z2 LC Frequency Manager and two Passive Directional Antennas for my Airshows tested to more than 200 feet/ Flawless. We use headsets, lapels and handheld with this system. There are a lot and good wireless systems out there, My money was well spent on this system.. Just my 2 cents, Still give you a thumbs up TB. love the channel and subscribed.
I have been using the BLX system for about 9 years now. I wouldn't call them garbage but lately depending on the area I'm in they have been dropping out but they have been 95% reliable over the years. That range is crazy though! My MC was damn near 200+ feet in a field away from me one time. That BLX lapel though is not reliable. I can attest to that! May have to go to Sennheiser for the lapels. I have been looking to upgrade my systems though so thanks for the run down because I had no idea what all the differences were. That SLX may be the move
I own a small sound company, and use Shure wireless products. I have the higher end UR4D, as well as ULXD, SLX4, and BLX.... I also regularly use PLX and GLX systems at a church that I do work for. All of them, excluding the BLX, have quality sound for their intended uses. The cheaper mics do not handle high sound pressure levels, such as a rapper vocal. But they are good for regular speaking and singing voices. The main differences are found in construction quality (durability), and ability to pair with better antennas, and antenna distribution systems. I use the UR4D system for high end corporate events and concert events. I use the ULX mostly for wireless guitars, etc... The BLX are mostly for corporate events, etc... The BLX go to things like auctions, sports events, and rodeos, etc... The BLX are not great, but good enough for those types of things. I obviously like the UR4D stuff best... But I like the SLX4 stuff a lot. They are my biggest money maker. I make my money back pretty quickly on those. They can used with an antenna distribution system, etc... I often run 8 of them simultaneously (4 in the G5 band, and 4 in the H5 band), and have no problems at all. The biggest problem with the SLX4 anf other lower end mics, is durability. I am often replacing the battery covers, because people thread them on incorrectly or too tightly and it cracks. I wish Shure could have metalized that part of the mic. But if you're buying wireless mics to make money, the SLX series has had the best return on investment, by far....at least at my level. My sound company is small-ish and in a rural area, so I dont do a lot of high-end gigs, where more expensive gear is necessary.
Thanks Terry, I have used the GLXD24 for about 4 years without ever experiencing any dropouts in several arenas that are at least a basketball court in size, both indoors and outdoors. I have viewed your channel because I was DJ'ing this weekend and my MIC grew legs and walked away. I value your opinion and thanks for giving me some real specs to help me make an informed purchase.
I started with a mixture of Shure ulxs, blx and glxds for a band of 15 and it worked ok. Glxd and blx sucked when outdoors or when we used in ear monitors too. We upgraded to ulxd and axient digital. Best investment ever!!! We can network and use wireless controls without the glxd dropping out.
Cleveland, thank you for the phenomenal video, I bought a few PGX4 systems with PGX2 SM58s (used) after watching your video. They sound amazing! I have an RE20 and an SM7b and they lack the freedom of mobility. I couldn’t be happier. Just subscribed to your channel. Thanks again! Mac
Great honest review. Thank you for highlighting the variances in the quality. I was planning to go cheap and purchase a BLX, but I need something reliable, so I'm sold on the SLX.
I actually have had a great experience with the Blx series. Cost was really not a concern when I made the purchase. I actually called Shure they told me what really separates the slx and blx is when you start needing to run several systems at the same time like more than 5. I actually did a install at a church. I have 5 blx systems in there run sound every Sunday for the past year no issues. This is in downtown Raleigh NC. I actually use the blx in my ceremony rig as well have not had an issue. For my lapels though I do run the Sennheiser G4’s. One thing to keep in mind is that when you purchase any wireless system remember to use the software and frequency checker to get the best range for the area you cover. This makes a huge difference as you are sharing bandwidth with TV stations.
Fantastic review, Cleveland! We are currently using SLX/SM58 at our church and were looking at investing in additional mics. I appreciate the candidness and detail. This review was way more helpful than some other reviews. Thanks so much!!
My church bought a few BLX ( $449 each ) we decided to put them close to the stage , because we were getting drop outs but it was what we could afford because we needed 8 of them. They sound good to me as long as they’re close to the stage.
I used PGXD since it just came out, was getting constant dropouts and pops and clicks. replaced them with BLX systems 4 years ago and everything is good so far
Cleveland, I’ll have to bring my system and demo how to set it up. I can get upwards of 300+ feet. The unit runs on 2.4Ghz and thus where everyone gets confused. If you want excellent use from the GLXD set the group to four if using only 2 receivers, at which point the unit has many channel bands to go through without interruption. It took a couple of months to get it right, but once set you never have to worry.
I understand what you’re saying, however I’m only using one receiver. Every situation and venue are different, not to mention area where you are operating. I just never consistently get what you’re getting without constant fiddling and that’s not what in the business to do.
The GLX series uses the 2.4 band which is where Wifi often lives and if you're near access points or in an environment where there's a lot of 2.4GHz traffic like neighborhoods/hotels etc. The SM58 and the beta 87 are two completely different mics with different characteristics. Both are directional, but the beta is hyper cardioid, which means it picks up a little bit directly behind it but more focused right in front. The SM58 rejects sound behind it but has a wider pickup in front.
Great video, I have a BLX and PGX. I have not had any issues with the BLX but the PGX is my go too. I know that dropouts and mic interference can depend on where your located.
i have a very old from like 2005 Gemini UHF mic ive been using for for 1-2 gigs almost every wkend average for almost 17 yrs now, im not a Gemini fan but this thing has great sound and has never let me down, has very good range through about any walls etc, im buying some new mics soon but ill still use my old one most of the time im sure till it gives out.
I was thinking to get the Shure GLXD24/B58 Digital Vocal Wireless System with Beta 58A Han. But after reading a lot reviews describing the issues with the wi fi and many other issues, I better get the Pgxd24 beta58 a d wow, wow and more wow. It’s a great microphone, cero drops and long coverage without any issues. Definitely the best mic for me if we talk about shure.... 😁
Great video! Had just gotten the GLX system - couldn't go 50 feet without a dropout so returned it and invested in the SLX system with upgraded antennas - I use a headset, not a handheld so I can't comment on how range differs from one to the other - but looking forward to getting the SLX system with the rechargeable batteries!
I have used Shure, Sennheiser and Audio Technica mics for over 25 years. The largest number of wireless mics I've had to set up and use is 24 mics in 2021 for a meeting/streaming conference. We didn't have any dropouts or any interference using the mixtures of Shure SLX, PGX, GLX, ULX, Sennheiser G3, XSW, EW and SKM models. The venue was at Holiday Inn next to a marina and the port. We may have been just lucky to not have any dropouts in audio. The mics were all on a tabletop stand, 3 to a table plus 2 roamers. The furthest mics were about 80 feet away. The only problems we encountered were the AA Duracell packs we bought from Walmart. They woul last no more than 2 hours on the BLX transmitters. The AA batteries in the Sennheisers lasted the entire day.
Thanks for this info, massively helpful for cutting to the chase. I wish Shure was more straight foward in their marketing about intended use cases for their products. The BLX is such an attractive option at that price point, but it makes sense that its too good to be true. Thanks man appreciate you!
My research has led me to the SLX system. And your experience seems to confirm that, so I suppose this is what I need to get for a wireless. Gotta say though, the design, tech and 😅aesthetics are so old school I feel like I’m looking at equipment from the 1980’s. I do wish I could see an oled display with a touch of finesse in the utilitarian chassis. Oh well. I also was led to the Rodeo system which appears appealing. Though one must purchase the receiver separately and the system overall feels a bit too proprietary to me. But I think it would work pretty much for anyone with the right two pieces. The Rode appears more modern, though I think the guts of both the Rode and Shure are based on the same fundamental tech. I’ll add I do like the quality of Rode products. With the Shure offering a choice of numerous bobblehead caps it’s likely a smarter investment in case conditions ever change for the user. The brand is timeless, as I remember one of my first turntables needing a cartridge and unless you had a Dual TT (where Ortofon was the choice), Shure was the most popular cartridge in the world for a turntable in the 1970’s and 80’s hands down. Thanks for your work on this review and providing great useful information. Ahhh, decisions.
I'm a violinist that plays with backing tracks, so I'm always amplified. I rent out my shure pgx with sm58 wireless mic (through my large PA system) to my clients for an extra $50. I've used it over 100 times, and it has never failed or dropped out. What HAS failed is the dinky power brick cord - it is so thin and flimsy that it just broke while gently wrapping it up. I replaced it with a beefier brick, no problem...
Well, I wish I could've heard about the GLX system 3 years ago before I bought it. I've had the mic for a year and a half. It doesn't go far from my dj booth or even when I'm set up for a live band. No issues for me with my GLXD24 Beta 57A at this time. I'm glad to have seen your video. Now I know.
Awesome video! Man so glad I watched this. I personally have been renting the GLX and have bad drop outs and I think because it’s at the 2.4 WiFi frequency. I’m gonna ditch it and try out the PGX now. Thanks!!
I have 6 BLXR with SM 58 to replace my older ulx because of frequency rollout. Have the receivers rackmounted FOH about 60dt from stage. Quality was as good as my old ulx. This is despite having all the antenna on the back of the receivers which is not recommended with 3 or more mics. The biggest difference is the BLX has no battery meter. It just has a light green for good red for change the battery. Max receivers for BLX is 9 per band.
Hi Terry, enjoyed your video on the differences of the of the Shure systems. I'm looking for our church worship group. We are in a small bldg now but we want to buy equipment that will work for the bldg we are in now & for the new bldg we will be constructing. So right now I've always liked the SM58 but after watching your video I'm turning towards the SLX w/the Beta 87A mic. The mics we are using now are the Phenyx Pro, to me, you can't really hear the words of the singer and they pick up everything around them. In a Christian band, the words are the most important part. Which would you suggest that would work for our small church bldg that we are in now and the new much bigger bldg we will build? Right now the mic boxes are up on the stage don't know if in the new bldg they will be with the sound man towards the back or we may keep them with the band up front. Hope to hear from you, thanks. Carlos.
I’ve had 8 BLX Mics running in our church for 3 years and they work great. Don’t have the features of SLXD4D but it is very good for the price. My receivers are 60 ft from the stage and we never have dropouts. Most people that have reception problems don’t set them up properly.
GREAT VIDEO! a lot has changed would you mind doing a updated video of Shure microphones Was thinking about the 87a but ended up seeing the ksm8, ksm9, ksm11 (newest) Now can't make my mind up.... over all for vocal use I sing very high pitched
I have the slx4 and I got the big antenas from sweet waters ,and I haven't had no problem at all. I think is a great mic. I want to update to the qlx. and have the slx as a back up.
Hi terry im using the BMB UHF 800 with too mic’s are they a good brand. By the way I do weddings parties birthday parties and sometimes your backyard party they have always been dependable sometimes sometimes one mic will work on the other one won’t is there something else I should adjust the or squelch knobs on the back I’ve never tempered with them when you are right in front of my speakers they squeal any thoughts on this yours truly Dj Walt baby love
I think what should have also been mentioned in the video between the GLX and SLX systems is the TYPE of frequency used. GLX uses a 2.4 GHz signal, if that sounds familiar it's because it's the same frequency that most lower end Wifi units use. So if you're at a venue and you happen to be right by the WiFi access point that Microphone won't even go 10 feet without issues. Also if you're using Wireless DMX Donners for your lights, they also use 2.4 Ghz which will ALSO cause huge problems. Such a shame as I do like the look and feel of the GLX especially the rechargeable battery. Just not sure why they went with such a commonly used frequency. Now the SLX and BLX uses an analog system that must be in a unused spectrum for your state. Most of the 500 mhz spectrum on these microphones are fine. There are some state restrictions on these frequencies. Shure has a frequency Finder on thier website that shows which state conforms to those microphone frequencies. BLX just simply uses weaker transmission technology which why it's range will not be good in some cases, especially if you're in a venue that has multiple rooms and multiple parties using analog wireless microphones. PLX is the beginner to QLX as they are both digital but QLX does a lot more in the case switching frequencies and overall a higher quality package. QLX still DOES have issues with drop outs if another DJ in your building is using that same frequency always set your frequency prior to your party. And for safe measure if the best man is about to make a speech, about 5 minutes before that run a group scan on your device to make sure it finds a clear channel, you never know if a DJ running the same frequency as you has set up their equipment after your initial group scan. Hopefully this clears up a little bit more on why these Mics have issues, not the microphones themselves, but rather the transmission technology each Shure series uses.
You are on point but I can’t go this deep in videos. People would literally gloss over. This video is for the average person trying to buy a microphone.
@@djkeithjust Yeah I got it to work in some cases but if you're ever around high end wifi units like Cisco, Meraki the GLX doesn't stand a chance!! Which sucks I loved the build quality and the battery. I had to send it back.
Andy B that’s true with the standar glxd, but with the GLXDR just use the Passive Antennae. And always with any wireless mic the higher you mount or situate the antenna the better. I usually recommend putting the receiver on top of one the speakers. Funny thing I’ve had a rage of about 300+ feet in the middle of nowhere with the unit.
I have a GLXD4 mic system and yes!!, I notice when even the persons body holding the mic is on the way between the mic and receiver, you get sound drop outs. it should be better but is impossible on a gig to have people not blocking the signal. very dissapointing
the main differenz between the sm58 and the Beta87 is that the 87 is a condenser mic where as the 58 is a dynamic mic, hence the different looking capsule. Also the 87 has a super cardiod pattern and the 58 cardiod.
Something i didnt see in the video or the comments - you do sound check right? Great. NOW - when the hall fills up - Re-Sync the frequencies again and i am sure your wireless system will switch. Its amazing how the radio spectrum of a room changes when 150 cell phones join in :-)
A while ago i had a few PGXD's, two GLXD's and one Entry-level PG system. PGXD seemed to have the best all around range, clarity, and performance. GLXD was good for venues with less people (a digital issue with the signal and the amount of cellphones in the room), and the PG system was pure trash (a precursor to the BLX system). I got rid of all the pg's one GLXD (kept one for ceremonies and plus you'll always find a reason to keep mics) and all the PGXD's even though i got 8 ULX-p systems (tried on digital ULXD and was disappointed with the sound). This is a classic case of you get what you paid for, except, the PGXD wasn't a bad system taking price into consideration. The reality is, all soundmen wil say that having a wired connection is the best and your paying a premium for removing the cord. Great vid Terry.
Saw many of your videos. Good stuff mein. I upgraded to a dual SLX system. But I have a question. Want to buy another for smaller events, buying another SLX, but saw you have the beta 87 over the beta 58. May I ask why? I like the 58 better especially for weddings when guests are speaking. But I notice singers/people with a more higher/squeaky voice are better on the 87a. So your opinion on the difference between beta 87 and beta 58 and SM 58 please?
@@tearitloosetearitloose4670 wow. Apparently I was shopping for wireless mics 2 years ago. Actually in the market again so I'll have to restart my research
What do you think of the Sennheiser XSW-1 dual wireless 835’s? Need dual wireless mics for karaoke. Would you recommend this system or go for the highest tier stuff?
I use a 58 beta for my wired mic, a Sennheiser (forget model it's a $300 unit) for wireless. It's a decent mic but always thinking I'll make that my really good backup unit and get a better "A" unit. Thanks for video.
Hey bro quick question. My gear advisor suggest i go with the ND96 EV over the Shure 58. I primarily am wanting it to plug into my amp with my acoustic guitar and sing along. I’m not a gig guy yet I am pretty raw and new to this. It’s more of a hobby and learning process for me right now. My voice trying to Learn to sing. So with that in mind which mic would be best for my situation? I have a fishman loudbox mini acoustic amp. Thanks!!
Damn..been djing for over 30 years, Never knew this info as Im looking into wireless mics and there true functions! Well explained Cleveland Terry. THANK YOU!! Gonna watch your vid on frequencies.. what do you think about GTD Wireless mics, I opened up for Styles P and he grab the wrong wireless mic (GTD) & his manager didnt notice it till the end of performance, He said it sound like the Shure PG series, I was like OOPs! lol, " It was a GTD"...
SLX system is a great workhorse. (it is a Blackhorse that really doesn't get that much love) it gets the job done and much better than the other Shure systems that were mentioned in this video.
One note on why the GLX system has such issues in many places: it is using the 2.4 GHz band. This band is quite crowded, as it is used for bluetooth and older wifi. If you're experiencing 20 ft distances with the GLX, it's quite likely the locations your at have pervasive wifi (likely multiple networks being presented) and extensive bluetooth use.
Looking to buy a microphone. This video was shot 2 years ago. Have there been any updates or additions to shure since then that would change your opinion?
I Purchased a Shure SLX4 Diversity Receiver. Would I be able to buy any Shure wireless hand held and sync it with the receiver? By the way great video.
do you have any experience with the ULXs4 systems? I have an opportunity to puchase a ULX with a SM58 mic for really cheap and thinking about purchasing a brand new SLX...Already have a beta 58 capsule so if I do buy the ULX used I plan on putting the beta 58 capsule on the handheld.
If you're having those kind of issues with BLX then you're doing something wrong. I've used multiple of these systems in a theater environment with a grand total of 0 dropouts with decent sound quality. I was using these systems alongside UHF-R and QLXD and while those sounded better (marginally, and many people couldn't even hear the difference), they all performed well in terms of dropouts. We were using UA874s and UA844+ distros coordinated in Wireless Workbench, but it goes to show that with proper coordination and antenna configuration, even affordable wireless systems can hold their own. All that being said, Sennheiser's EW100 G4 series is priced very similarly and its all around a much better system than BLX, so go with that if that's you're price range.
As a sound engineer and technical director for over 20 years, I echo everything he is saying about these different mic lines from Shure.
I’ve used all the major brands - Shure, Sennheiser, Audio-Technica, etc. I have always leaned towards Shure products for their durability and reliability.
I have had experience with all these lines plus the ULX. For me the SLX systems have been the most solid performer for the money.
In a lot of medium to larger venues I always pair these systems with an antenna distribution system with the amplified flag style antennae to boost the signal.
Almost a non-negotiable when operating a good number of mics in large spaces with lots of people.
Hi Is ULX any good??
Dropouts can happen anywhere with ANY wireless system...
So here's a suggestion from someone who owns several Shure wireless systems including BLX, SLX, GLX and have used them for many years without any major problems. I even combine different series together during an event that requires multiple mics (Panels, Live Performances, Q&A's, etc.)
WHENEVER you arrive at a venue, press and hold the group button on the receiver and let it scroll to automatically calibrate the receiver to the best channel to use then match the transmitter device (Handheld Mic, Headset, Lav, etc.) to that channel as well.
Each venue has channel ranges that are problematic but Shure has built in this convenient feature to quickly locate channels with the best signal strength between transmitter and receiver available in each specific scenario. It may even be necessary to re scan periodically during an event as additional wireless systems users come online at the venue (Security, Maintenance, Production, Housekeeping, Catering, Transportation, Etc.
This applies to ANY WIRELESS SYSTEM, so use whatever you like but scan for the best frequencies at any venue on arrival, it can save you a lot of headaches.
Hope this is helpful to some of my event production & DJ colleagues :)
Here is a scanning tutorial specifically for Shure users:
ruclips.net/video/HIK0oVD-PjM/видео.html
Steven Lucky Benson great advice and I want to emphasize what you said about scanning during the event. It’s a good practice to do the scan under the exact conditions when the mic will be in use, so do the scan when the room is full of ppl, not when it’s empty.
@@DJ-Coma Yup, you're on point! Conditions do change throughout an event, so I keep a back up system available (whenever possible) and can have a freshly scanned mic available at the first sign of trouble (dropout, interference, etc.)
Plus having FULLY CHARGED BATTERIES is essential. Running a mic on a charge from the last gig is a big NO NO!!!
The weaker the batteries, the weaker the signal and more likely for your system to have interference.
Steven Lucky Benson i never thought about there being a correlation between battery charge and signal strength. Interesting!
I completely understand what you’re saying and I do all the recommended steps but what I want when I’m working is a system that causes the LEAST amount of problems on an event. I can make it work with whatever system but I shouldn’t have to when there are systems that are just better at it from the start.
LuxeIslandEvents he actually didn’t recommend the GLX in this video.
This is the best breakdown I've ever seen in RUclips. I've used BLX and SLX and currently own PGX. Everything you've said is spot on! Thanks!
🙏🏾 much appreciated
I’ve had the BLX system for over a year. Used it on dozens of gigs. Nothing wrong with it. No drop outs, boo frequency issues. I roll of low end on all my sm58s wired and the wireless. Sounds fine. I’m not shure (lol) what you are talking about.
Exactly! I was shocked when he said that!
The blx sm58 sounds nothing like a sm58. The audio is compressed and just sounds different
So should I buy blx sm58
Should I buy blx
Thanks
I've gone back to this video twice to make sure I had my stuff together before buying my first wireless mic. Thanks Terry!
CT, just wanted to double back and tell you thank you. Based on this exceptional review/opinion, I purchased the SLX with the Beta58 and I am very impressed by the range and sound.
Thank you for your very informative review. I’m the audio tech at our church. All I really know, is what I learn from videos like yours. We recently purchased the GLX-D. It’s been a problem every since. The sound quality is very poor @ a distance of 20ft. Or less between transmitter and receiver. Now I’m going to see if our pastor will return them for the pgx system. Wish me well with that one.
Based on your stories and recommendation, I recently bought the wireless Shure SLXD24/SM58 microphone, and I'm impressed. Thank you for this informative video. Your comment about dropouts with the BLX stood out. I DJ around 60-70 weddings and events a year. When I started 4 years ago, I bought a $99 wireless microphone that would drop out if someone turned on their phone, causing a lot of stress. I ended up going back to a wired Shure SM58 microphone with a 100-foot XLR. You really get what you pay for with microphones. Thanks again for your recommendations.
Glad to help
As an RF Technician for large production companies the best information I can give is about antenna placement. If your antenna’s can’t see the microphone then you’re bound to have issues. Another rule of thumb is don’t put these small boxes in metal racks with one gear, the metal on the racks block RF signal strength. If you have any of these systems a good distribution system and some paddle antennas would help tremendously. The RF Venue Distro4 is decent but a little pricey with the antenna, around $1500 but well worth it to take care of potential problems (i.e. drop outs)
GLXD owner here. My system has preformed flawlessly over the last 2 years. Range is definitely not an issue for me. Corporate parties to Airshows. The battery system is priceless. The auto frequency switching is flawless. I have 4 GLXD4R rack mounted with the Shure UA846Z2 LC Frequency Manager and two Passive Directional Antennas for my Airshows tested to more than 200 feet/ Flawless. We use headsets, lapels and handheld with this system. There are a lot and good wireless systems out there, My money was well spent on this system..
Just my 2 cents, Still give you a thumbs up TB. love the channel and subscribed.
You have the glxd advance which is better than the regular glxd. I agree, I also have directional antennas on my ulxd, they're amazing.
I have been using the BLX system for about 9 years now. I wouldn't call them garbage but lately depending on the area I'm in they have been dropping out but they have been 95% reliable over the years. That range is crazy though! My MC was damn near 200+ feet in a field away from me one time. That BLX lapel though is not reliable. I can attest to that! May have to go to Sennheiser for the lapels. I have been looking to upgrade my systems though so thanks for the run down because I had no idea what all the differences were. That SLX may be the move
I own a small sound company, and use Shure wireless products. I have the higher end UR4D, as well as ULXD, SLX4, and BLX.... I also regularly use PLX and GLX systems at a church that I do work for.
All of them, excluding the BLX, have quality sound for their intended uses. The cheaper mics do not handle high sound pressure levels, such as a rapper vocal. But they are good for regular speaking and singing voices.
The main differences are found in construction quality (durability), and ability to pair with better antennas, and antenna distribution systems.
I use the UR4D system for high end corporate events and concert events. I use the ULX mostly for wireless guitars, etc... The BLX are mostly for corporate events, etc... The BLX go to things like auctions, sports events, and rodeos, etc... The BLX are not great, but good enough for those types of things.
I obviously like the UR4D stuff best... But I like the SLX4 stuff a lot. They are my biggest money maker. I make my money back pretty quickly on those. They can used with an antenna distribution system, etc... I often run 8 of them simultaneously (4 in the G5 band, and 4 in the H5 band), and have no problems at all.
The biggest problem with the SLX4 anf other lower end mics, is durability. I am often replacing the battery covers, because people thread them on incorrectly or too tightly and it cracks. I wish Shure could have metalized that part of the mic.
But if you're buying wireless mics to make money, the SLX series has had the best return on investment, by far....at least at my level.
My sound company is small-ish and in a rural area, so I dont do a lot of high-end gigs, where more expensive gear is necessary.
Thanks Terry, I have used the GLXD24 for about 4 years without ever experiencing any dropouts in several arenas that are at least a basketball court in size, both indoors and outdoors. I have viewed your channel because I was DJ'ing this weekend and my MIC grew legs and walked away. I value your opinion and thanks for giving me some real specs to help me make an informed purchase.
I started with a mixture of Shure ulxs, blx and glxds for a band of 15 and it worked ok. Glxd and blx sucked when outdoors or when we used in ear monitors too. We upgraded to ulxd and axient digital. Best investment ever!!! We can network and use wireless controls without the glxd dropping out.
Cleveland, thank you for the phenomenal video, I bought a few PGX4 systems with PGX2 SM58s (used) after watching your video. They sound amazing! I have an RE20 and an SM7b and they lack the freedom of mobility. I couldn’t be happier. Just subscribed to your channel. Thanks again! Mac
Great honest review. Thank you for highlighting the variances in the quality. I was planning to go cheap and purchase a BLX, but I need something reliable, so I'm sold on the SLX.
I actually have had a great experience with the Blx series. Cost was really not a concern when I made the purchase. I actually called Shure they told me what really separates the slx and blx is when you start needing to run several systems at the same time like more than 5. I actually did a install at a church. I have 5 blx systems in there run sound every Sunday for the past year no issues. This is in downtown Raleigh NC. I actually use the blx in my ceremony rig as well have not had an issue. For my lapels though I do run the Sennheiser G4’s. One thing to keep in mind is that when you purchase any wireless system remember to use the software and frequency checker to get the best range for the area you cover. This makes a huge difference as you are sharing bandwidth with TV stations.
Same here in Raleigh
Absolutely brilliant review. You cracked me up. And, AND, you made my decision for me. So a win Win Win review. CLASS!
Fantastic review, Cleveland! We are currently using SLX/SM58 at our church and were looking at investing in additional mics. I appreciate the candidness and detail. This review was way more helpful than some other reviews. Thanks so much!!
How has it been performing? I’m looking to buy one for church as well.
My church bought a few BLX ( $449 each ) we decided to put them close to the stage , because we were getting drop outs but it was what we could afford because we needed 8 of them. They sound good to me as long as they’re close to the stage.
I used PGXD since it just came out, was getting constant dropouts and pops and clicks. replaced them with BLX systems 4 years ago and everything is good so far
I was about to buy the blx and this saved me from that mistake. Thank you!
Cleveland, I’ll have to bring my system and demo how to set it up. I can get upwards of 300+ feet. The unit runs on 2.4Ghz and thus where everyone gets confused.
If you want excellent use from the GLXD set the group to four if using only 2 receivers, at which point the unit has many channel bands to go through without interruption.
It took a couple of months to get it right, but once set you never have to worry.
I understand what you’re saying, however I’m only using one receiver. Every situation and venue are different, not to mention area where you are operating. I just never consistently get what you’re getting without constant fiddling and that’s not what in the business to do.
Cleveland Terry Bowens I completely understand!
The GLX series uses the 2.4 band which is where Wifi often lives and if you're near access points or in an environment where there's a lot of 2.4GHz traffic like neighborhoods/hotels etc.
The SM58 and the beta 87 are two completely different mics with different characteristics. Both are directional, but the beta is hyper cardioid, which means it picks up a little bit directly behind it but more focused right in front. The SM58 rejects sound behind it but has a wider pickup in front.
Very very helpful breakdown! Thank you so much for taking the time to put all this together
Great video, I have a BLX and PGX. I have not had any issues with the BLX but the PGX is my go too. I know that dropouts and mic interference can depend on where your located.
i have a very old from like 2005 Gemini UHF mic ive been using for for 1-2 gigs almost every wkend average for almost 17 yrs now, im not a Gemini fan but this thing has great sound and has never let me down, has very good range through about any walls etc, im buying some new mics soon but ill still use my old one most of the time im sure till it gives out.
Cleveland Terry your videos are always done with such great information and from a a true dj prespective , shout out from Miami!
Thank you
I was thinking to get the Shure GLXD24/B58 Digital Vocal Wireless System with Beta 58A Han. But after reading a lot reviews describing the issues with the wi fi and many other issues, I better get the Pgxd24 beta58 a d wow, wow and more wow. It’s a great microphone, cero drops and long coverage without any issues. Definitely the best mic for me if we talk about shure.... 😁
Just bought a pgx24 sm58,I was thinking to get the blx ,right before I watched this video😁thanks man👍🏻
Thanks for the advice, purchasing the PGXD now!
i have the Shure BLX 24PG58 for about two years with no issues at all.
Great video! Had just gotten the GLX system - couldn't go 50 feet without a dropout so returned it and invested in the SLX system with upgraded antennas - I use a headset, not a handheld so I can't comment on how range differs from one to the other - but looking forward to getting the SLX system with the rechargeable batteries!
I have used Shure, Sennheiser and Audio Technica mics for over 25 years. The largest number of wireless mics I've had to set up and use is 24 mics in 2021 for a meeting/streaming conference. We didn't have any dropouts or any interference using the mixtures of Shure SLX, PGX, GLX, ULX, Sennheiser G3, XSW, EW and SKM models. The venue was at Holiday Inn next to a marina and the port. We may have been just lucky to not have any dropouts in audio. The mics were all on a tabletop stand, 3 to a table plus 2 roamers. The furthest mics were about 80 feet away. The only problems we encountered were the AA Duracell packs we bought from Walmart. They woul last no more than 2 hours on the BLX transmitters. The AA batteries in the Sennheisers lasted the entire day.
Could you please explain to me a newbie what the difference is between pgx and slx and what the letters actually mean? Thank you so much
Thanks for this info, massively helpful for cutting to the chase. I wish Shure was more straight foward in their marketing about intended use cases for their products. The BLX is such an attractive option at that price point, but it makes sense that its too good to be true. Thanks man appreciate you!
My research has led me to the SLX system. And your experience seems to confirm that, so I suppose this is what I need to get for a wireless. Gotta say though, the design, tech and 😅aesthetics are so old school I feel like I’m looking at equipment from the 1980’s. I do wish I could see an oled display with a touch of finesse in the utilitarian chassis. Oh well.
I also was led to the Rodeo system which appears appealing. Though one must purchase the receiver separately and the system overall feels a bit too proprietary to me. But I think it would work pretty much for anyone with the right two pieces. The Rode appears more modern, though I think the guts of both the Rode and Shure are based on the same fundamental tech. I’ll add I do like the quality of Rode products.
With the Shure offering a choice of numerous bobblehead caps it’s likely a smarter investment in case conditions ever change for the user. The brand is timeless, as I remember one of my first turntables needing a cartridge and unless you had a Dual TT (where Ortofon was the choice), Shure was the most popular cartridge in the world for a turntable in the 1970’s and 80’s hands down.
Thanks for your work on this review and providing great useful information.
Ahhh, decisions.
I'm a violinist that plays with backing tracks, so I'm always amplified. I rent out my shure pgx with sm58 wireless mic (through my large PA system) to my clients for an extra $50. I've used it over 100 times, and it has never failed or dropped out. What HAS failed is the dinky power brick cord - it is so thin and flimsy that it just broke while gently wrapping it up. I replaced it with a beefier brick, no problem...
Yeah the power adapter is the WORST!
Well, I wish I could've heard about the GLX system 3 years ago before I bought it. I've had the mic for a year and a half. It doesn't go far from my dj booth or even when I'm set up for a live band. No issues for me with my GLXD24 Beta 57A at this time. I'm glad to have seen your video. Now I know.
Thank you so much for all the great information. I now feel confident to go and buy an SLX :D
Awesome video! Man so glad I watched this. I personally have been renting the GLX and have bad drop outs and I think because it’s at the 2.4 WiFi frequency. I’m gonna ditch it and try out the PGX now. Thanks!!
I have 6 BLXR with SM 58 to replace my older ulx because of frequency rollout. Have the receivers rackmounted FOH about 60dt from stage. Quality was as good as my old ulx. This is despite having all the antenna on the back of the receivers which is not recommended with 3 or more mics. The biggest difference is the BLX has no battery meter. It just has a light green for good red for change the battery. Max receivers for BLX is 9 per band.
Hi Terry, enjoyed your video on the differences of the of the Shure systems. I'm looking for our church worship group. We are in a small bldg now but we want to buy equipment that will work for the bldg we are in now & for the new bldg we will be constructing. So right now I've always liked the SM58 but after watching your video I'm turning towards the SLX w/the Beta 87A mic. The mics we are using now are the Phenyx Pro, to me, you can't really hear the words of the singer and they pick up everything around them. In a Christian band, the words are the most important part. Which would you suggest that would work for our small church bldg that we are in now and the new much bigger bldg we will build? Right now the mic boxes are up on the stage don't know if in the new bldg they will be with the sound man towards the back or we may keep them with the band up front. Hope to hear from you, thanks. Carlos.
Tx for the info I'm old skool still use sm58 but I was looking ar the shure pg4 system
I’ve had 8 BLX Mics running in our church for 3 years and they work great. Don’t have the features of SLXD4D but it is very good for the price. My receivers are 60 ft from the stage and we never have dropouts. Most people that have reception problems don’t set them up properly.
GREAT VIDEO! a lot has changed would you mind doing a updated video of Shure microphones Was thinking about the 87a but ended up seeing the ksm8, ksm9, ksm11 (newest) Now can't make my mind up.... over all for vocal use I sing very high pitched
I have the slx4 and I got the big antenas from sweet waters ,and I haven't had no problem at all. I think is a great mic. I want to update to the qlx. and have the slx as a back up.
Good call!
Hi terry im using the BMB UHF 800 with too mic’s are they a good brand. By the way I do weddings parties birthday parties and sometimes your backyard party they have always been dependable sometimes sometimes one mic will work on the other one won’t is there something else I should adjust the or squelch knobs on the back I’ve never tempered with them when you are right in front of my speakers they squeal any thoughts on this yours truly Dj Walt baby love
I think what should have also been mentioned in the video between the GLX and SLX systems is the TYPE of frequency used. GLX uses a 2.4 GHz signal, if that sounds familiar it's because it's the same frequency that most lower end Wifi units use. So if you're at a venue and you happen to be right by the WiFi access point that Microphone won't even go 10 feet without issues. Also if you're using Wireless DMX Donners for your lights, they also use 2.4 Ghz which will ALSO cause huge problems. Such a shame as I do like the look and feel of the GLX especially the rechargeable battery. Just not sure why they went with such a commonly used frequency.
Now the SLX and BLX uses an analog system that must be in a unused spectrum for your state. Most of the 500 mhz spectrum on these microphones are fine. There are some state restrictions on these frequencies. Shure has a frequency Finder on thier website that shows which state conforms to those microphone frequencies. BLX just simply uses weaker transmission technology which why it's range will not be good in some cases, especially if you're in a venue that has multiple rooms and multiple parties using analog wireless microphones.
PLX is the beginner to QLX as they are both digital but QLX does a lot more in the case switching frequencies and overall a higher quality package. QLX still DOES have issues with drop outs if another DJ in your building is using that same frequency always set your frequency prior to your party. And for safe measure if the best man is about to make a speech, about 5 minutes before that run a group scan on your device to make sure it finds a clear channel, you never know if a DJ running the same frequency as you has set up their equipment after your initial group scan.
Hopefully this clears up a little bit more on why these Mics have issues, not the microphones themselves, but rather the transmission technology each Shure series uses.
You are on point but I can’t go this deep in videos. People would literally gloss over. This video is for the average person trying to buy a microphone.
Hi Andy always keep the GLX system is to be placed a minimum of 10 feet from the closest WiFi units (e.g. wireless modems) and set to channel 4.
@@djkeithjust Yeah I got it to work in some cases but if you're ever around high end wifi units like Cisco, Meraki the GLX doesn't stand a chance!! Which sucks I loved the build quality and the battery. I had to send it back.
Andy B that’s true with the standar glxd, but with the GLXDR just use the Passive Antennae. And always with any wireless mic the higher you mount or situate the antenna the better. I usually recommend putting the receiver on top of one the speakers.
Funny thing I’ve had a rage of about 300+ feet in the middle of nowhere with the unit.
What about the qlx does it run on 2.4 GHz ?
Great info Terry! Thank you! On the PGX there is a group 8, h9 and h10. Which one works best? Thanks!
I have a GLXD4 mic system and yes!!, I notice when even the persons body holding the mic is on the way between the mic and receiver, you get sound drop outs. it should be better but is impossible on a gig to have people not blocking the signal. very dissapointing
Very enlightening because my church has the BLX Mics and now I can suggest the PGX or the SLX.
the main differenz between the sm58 and the Beta87 is that the 87 is a condenser mic where as the 58 is a dynamic mic, hence the different looking capsule. Also the 87 has a super cardiod pattern and the 58 cardiod.
Can you talk about Dual mic systems and what's the best direction to go for? Thanks
I hope
I’ve Been Watching This Channel Here And There For Years But This Video Made Me Subscribe! Great Video!
Welcome!
Something i didnt see in the video or the comments - you do sound check right? Great. NOW - when the hall fills up - Re-Sync the frequencies again and i am sure your wireless system will switch. Its amazing how the radio spectrum of a room changes when 150 cell phones join in :-)
What system should I use to eliminate the issue you have talked about just starting out
A while ago i had a few PGXD's, two GLXD's and one Entry-level PG system. PGXD seemed to have the best all around range, clarity, and performance. GLXD was good for venues with less people (a digital issue with the signal and the amount of cellphones in the room), and the PG system was pure trash (a precursor to the BLX system). I got rid of all the pg's one GLXD (kept one for ceremonies and plus you'll always find a reason to keep mics) and all the PGXD's even though i got 8 ULX-p systems (tried on digital ULXD and was disappointed with the sound). This is a classic case of you get what you paid for, except, the PGXD wasn't a bad system taking price into consideration. The reality is, all soundmen wil say that having a wired connection is the best and your paying a premium for removing the cord. Great vid Terry.
Saw many of your videos. Good stuff mein. I upgraded to a dual SLX system. But I have a question. Want to buy another for smaller events, buying another SLX, but saw you have the beta 87 over the beta 58. May I ask why? I like the 58 better especially for weddings when guests are speaking. But I notice singers/people with a more higher/squeaky voice are better on the 87a.
So your opinion on the difference between beta 87 and beta 58 and SM 58 please?
Love the review man. So thorough! Was intrigued by the rechargeable batteries in the GLX but you're moving me towards that SLX for dependability.
Did you go with the slx? If so how is it working out for you?
@@tearitloosetearitloose4670 wow. Apparently I was shopping for wireless mics 2 years ago. Actually in the market again so I'll have to restart my research
Which microphone would be better for church or outside praise and worship.
What do you think of the Sennheiser XSW-1 dual wireless 835’s? Need dual wireless mics for karaoke. Would you recommend this system or go for the highest tier stuff?
I use a 58 beta for my wired mic, a Sennheiser (forget model it's a $300 unit) for wireless. It's a decent mic but always thinking I'll make that my really good backup unit and get a better "A" unit. Thanks for video.
Thank you for the video what about slxd 24
Hey bro quick question. My gear advisor suggest i go with the ND96 EV over the Shure 58. I primarily am wanting it to plug into my amp with my acoustic guitar and sing along. I’m not a gig guy yet I am pretty raw and new to this. It’s more of a hobby and learning process for me right now. My voice trying to
Learn to sing. So with that in mind which mic would be best for my situation? I have a fishman loudbox mini acoustic amp. Thanks!!
You should do an updated version of this. I have the blx dual system. It's been rock solid for years
It’s funny you say that. I literally just interviewed shure.
I recently saw your video about the phenyex brand. How does that compare to this?
Damn..been djing for over 30 years, Never knew this info as Im looking into wireless mics and there true functions! Well explained Cleveland Terry. THANK YOU!! Gonna watch your vid on frequencies.. what do you think about GTD Wireless mics, I opened up for Styles P and he grab the wrong wireless mic (GTD) & his manager didnt notice it till the end of performance, He said it sound like the Shure PG series, I was like OOPs! lol, " It was a GTD"...
I'm so appreciate of this information. Thank you!!!
I’m in the market for a new wireless mic and this has helped a lot. Thanks!!
Love you artwork in background where did you get it✌🏾
SLX system is a great workhorse. (it is a Blackhorse that really doesn't get that much love) it gets the job done and much better than the other Shure systems that were mentioned in this video.
The best comparison ever, may I ask which mic do you prefer to use for the SLX - Beta 58 or Beta 87A ?
Thinking about buying a wireless mic, thank you! Very well explained man, cheers
One note on why the GLX system has such issues in many places: it is using the 2.4 GHz band. This band is quite crowded, as it is used for bluetooth and older wifi. If you're experiencing 20 ft distances with the GLX, it's quite likely the locations your at have pervasive wifi (likely multiple networks being presented) and extensive bluetooth use.
Can’t find any pgx system here in Malaysia. Probably my county had relegated 900mhz frequency spectrum for bid.
SLX SM58 wireless microphone is not available in market . Is this microphone still available today?
Looking to buy a microphone. This video was shot 2 years ago. Have there been any updates or additions to shure since then that would change your opinion?
Thank you so much. This has been so helpful
Thank you for a great explanation and advice.
I Purchased a Shure SLX4 Diversity Receiver. Would I be able to buy any Shure wireless hand held and sync it with the receiver? By the way great video.
As long as it it designed for the sLX, yes. Every mic has a different radio so you need to be sure before you buy.
@ClevelandTerry Thank you. I really appreciate your response. Your awsome 🙂
Hey Mr. Terry, do you have an opinion on the Vocopro UHF 8800 wireless mic system?
I haven’t used it
Do you think the glx suitable to be used during busking where most of the time the singer stays on the same spot throughout the performance?
do you have any experience with the ULXs4 systems? I have an opportunity to puchase a ULX with a SM58 mic for really cheap and thinking about purchasing a brand new SLX...Already have a beta 58 capsule so if I do buy the ULX used I plan on putting the beta 58 capsule on the handheld.
If you're having those kind of issues with BLX then you're doing something wrong. I've used multiple of these systems in a theater environment with a grand total of 0 dropouts with decent sound quality. I was using these systems alongside UHF-R and QLXD and while those sounded better (marginally, and many people couldn't even hear the difference), they all performed well in terms of dropouts. We were using UA874s and UA844+ distros coordinated in Wireless Workbench, but it goes to show that with proper coordination and antenna configuration, even affordable wireless systems can hold their own.
All that being said, Sennheiser's EW100 G4 series is priced very similarly and its all around a much better system than BLX, so go with that if that's you're price range.
Very informative, thanks!
Thank you this is a great review!
Exactly the review I was looking for. Thank you!
Can you use 2 mics on the SLX? 2 transmitters to 1 receiver? Or would i have to buy the dual receivers?
You’d need the dual receiver
Dude, I trust your reviews.
I have the BLX88 H9. I've used it since 2016 or 2017 can't remember for Shure. Pun intended.
So just to be shure, I was looking at the Shure SLXD24/B87A-K59 handheld but it has a K59 fq, so i could better buy the GLXD Z4? Btw, very nice video!
I'm looking for some handheld for the pgx h6 and j6
This is a great review. Thank you.
Thank you ! Loved it :)
How do the ULXP systems compare to these?
I use the senheiser but may add the slx now that i have seen your review thanks
Would this be the same for singers in big halls? Which would you recommend?
in the BLX it's written to be a PG58 , which I assume is far from the beta58a, right?
Awesome video...thank you!
I’m looking for a wireless mic that would be great for tubas
please review SLX-D😎