Advocates want fire shelters upgraded for firefighters
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- Fire shelters designed in 2002 are still being used by wildland firefighters today and advocates say the equipment needs a major upgrade.
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I’m happy there mentioning this again. I hope all fire fighters and hot shots are taken care of. I watch “ only the brave” once a year and cry. Pray everytime I hear about fires and such, for fire fighters and forest fire hot shots.
Never heard anyone turn down an order
Some one screw up the IC knew they were in trouble all air tankers should went to their rescue
The air tankers tried but couldn’t find the crew. Hard with all the smoke.
GOVT is cheap when it comes to your safety.🙄
No one has been successful just attempting to outrun the fire front, and I definitely feel the shelter we use is a false sense of security depending on topography, weather, and fuels. We call it the baked potato for multiple reasons. Weight is an issue, we are already up their with a lot of weight as it is, nothing is fireproof just like nothing is bulletproof. I'm glad they are looking at the shelter systems again. But I'm not going to hold my breath on them conceiving a lightweight catch all shelter that can take direct flame impingement at these temperatures and keep the smoke eater alive inside. The current addition can not handle direct flame impingement, and only does well against radiant heat.
Add a small 10 minute oxygen supply?
@@Iluvlollipops probably a bad idea to add an oxidizer to something a person needs to hide under during a burn over.
There's soooo many people out there with literally tons of money....I can't believe nobody has ever donated better tech to people like this. I would have no problem doing this if I actually had the money, you're never going to need all of it and you can't take it with you....
Because the “better tech” doesn’t really exist…
Yup. The shelters are only designed to protect against radiant heat. Not direct fire as they experienced in that densely vegetated box canyon in Yarnell.
Reminds me of Chernobyl: use cheap material, pay the consequences. In this case playing god with lives to save a buck…
And the fires are even hotter now! That world never cared for anybody in it, so why many still care for it is beyond insanity!
How come when they call we’re trapped why wasn’t the mayday signal given so all aircraft can fly to their rescue these water tankers could of help someone drop the ball
Heat rises. Lost of smoke and fire will heat up the air and mess with helicopter flight. Simply too risky
Fort Huachuca has helis, why weren't they called? Remember Nam, they can move quickly.
Aircraft was there. They, the air units, could not see where the members were located.
@@johnhill4964 didn't know that. Hope that tactics can be learned from this to save lives in future.
Who TF is Jason Ramos? The shelters DO work as the agency says they will. Every FF knows they aren't designed to protect against radiant heat.
Well, that incident on June 30, 2013, shows that fire shelters don't work. If they had worked at all, then those 19 firefighters should still be alive today. Jason is right after all. It's time for a new innovation in fire shelters.
@@BrilloHeadyou don’t understand everything has limits do you? The shelters were as good as they could’ve been, they are not an end-all-be-all protection, they are not guaranteed, they are just the last defense. They are made as good and they can get, and that’s that, really.
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@@ssilent8202 There are superior alternatives to current designs. To say that the current ones are as good as they could be is a lie.
@@BrilloHead proof?
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Then don’t used them it’s false hope where they come up with a different plans
Why don't they recruit newly arrived immigrants to fight the fires?
Why? It’s a fire. Develop something okay, engineers up!
Wildland Fire fighters, we weren't/are not issued any deployable "fire shelter" that can withstand direct flame(s) . . ..but look at the forearms of many Seasoned Wildland Fire fighters in Idaho area. Scarred by intense heat burn scarring, "Smoke Jumpers" too. Granite guys, weren't suppose to be there, in the first place. Now, my last fire, a fire crew could turn down a order. That's New,🇺🇸 former Wildland Fire fighter, AD-ll-TYPE-ll-FF Arizona🏜️🇺🇸