Was It Possible To Escape Life In A Victorian Workhouse? | Secrets From The Workhouse | Timeline
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2022
- Brian Cox finds out how his ancestors escaped the shadow of the Victorian workhouse and Felicity Kendal discovers her great-grandmother was forced into the institution by her husband after her affair.
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My great uncle was brought up in a workhouse school in Halifax ( Yorkshire ) after his mother had died, his father was in and out of jail and his 2 elder brothers had joined the army, but amazingly he ended up as a singer at Covent Garden with small ‘ named ‘ parts in the D’Oyly Carte and Carl Rosa opera companies ! Well do Martin Quinn - great uncle Martin ! 👍🏻👍🏻❤
These are the very people who we should honor... those who have suffered the worst environments and survive to become strong and make something of their lives.
@@michellelafaye2721 What I haven’t worked out was who paid for him to go to music school, presumably in Manchester . As he sang in the church choir, there could have been a massive ‘ whip round ‘ to pay his fees.No other sources of money available unless the 2 elder brothers ( one of them my grandad ) sent money from. their wages as soldiers !
@@christinescarff4920 He may have learned to sing from the Church. He wouldn't be the first singer to begin training the voices in the Church. There were quite a few during the 60 and 70 who honed their singing/musical skills with in the church.
@@michellelafaye2721 But my great uncle was born LONG before WW1 and actually at this time his 2 elder brothers ( including my grandad, the eldest of the 3 ) were working as builders in Halifax, and hadn’t joined the army yet. Strangely, my grandfather who was otherwise a truly Christian man always pretended to the family that his father too was dead .I suppose that deep down he was ashamed that his father was in and out of Wakefield jail just for owing tiny sums of money and then being unable to pay the fine for that too. The story in the family was that his father had remarried after his mother’s death ad that the step mother didn’t want the 3 boys, but I discovered from my research that his father infact NEVER remarried, and sadly died back in Halifax in one of those DREADFUL places where you paid something like a penny a night to sit on a bench to sleep , and my grandad NEVER once visited him ! My heart breaks when you think of the lives of these people and the dreadful conditions they suffered because of poverty and the Victorian workhouses !
@@christinescarff4920 Hey Christine, thank you for your story :) big up great uncle martin!
How can being poor be a sin and a crime?
The poor are blessed in Spirit ...
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The poor are admonished these days too
It’s a crime that they are treated badly
@@thomasweatherford5125 The really f**led up thing about that, is turning the whole condition of poverty itself back upon the poor, as though it was some sort of inherent moral failure on their own part, that they're "poor" in the first place!!
The truth is, the children who came to Australia suffered dreadful abuse. They were nothing more than slave labour. I doubt very much that Edith had any sort of joy from her childhood here.
Makes you appreciate how children have treated today, as the next generation rather than just labouring away in workhouses in dangerous situations
Anyone making a life after being in the workhouse, especially a child, who was born in, and grew up without parent's, must have had strong faith and a strong will to succeed. Nothing has changed about how the poor are viewed though. You are still viewed as a criminal, drug addict, or just lazy. The homeless are treated so awful around the world, and many work, but can not afford housing because the rents have sky rocketed over the last few year's, and having to put such large deposits down is really a lot. I thank G-d that when i got hurt, and became disabled, i bought a place with the small amount of money i got from the lawsuit out in the country over ten year's ago. I had to fix stuff, but it was affordable back then, don't know how many people make it now. G-d bless everyone.
That is true. And some just chose to stay out of the business of paying bills indefinitely. I had a boss who told me the story of a young man who had no home... and slept in a car. (that was his home) He did this intentionally and saved his money every year to go on a GREAT vacation.
This is insanely fascinating!! I've never heard of this...thank you!!! How sad. Now I want to learn more!
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A sense of responsibility for one and other - beautifully said x
The work house was an evil thing. We should all be glad it’s gone.
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It helped people. And kept a.lot off the street. Might need it again
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The alternative was starving. There was no social welfare.
23:40 Every adequate person can understand that living in a foster family (even on a farm in Scotland) is many times better than living in any workhouse/kindergarten/closed school.
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And sometimes foster families are even worse.
Excellent documentary how horrible it was back then
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❤❤❤❤. Bravo for this documentary and what a beautiful yet heartbreaking tribute to those who did not give up in all of the monstrosities they faced trying to simply survive. In their time , maybe they felt that they were single drops of water with the storm,.... But little did they know that their stories have become the water that flows as a river called hope in the desert. Absolutely humbling . 🙏❤️
My people were there too. Id love to know how my ancestors made it out. We always have been a scrappy bunch
Shipping the children to Australia. Australia's gain, Great Britain's loss.
My goodness, the 30 minute time area. I remember when Call the Midwife had an episode or 2 about a woman wo had worked in a workhouse and lost all of her children in the care area of the property. They found out that nearly all the children were documented as "failure to thrive", but you knew, they just let them die.
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Simply heartbreaking and totally anger provoking isn't it?. I don't often want a time machine . Or to wring someone's neck.... But the thought of those neglected little ones makes me want both
Touching story. ❤️
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This seems to be a huge class issue. I suppose they had not expanded insurance for death and disability at this time. Which seems odd because they had insurance like that - for chattel slaves-during that period. But I suppose property (that of the owning class anyway) was more valuable that human beings there too. Interesting
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This sounds like where America is heading.
hopefully
God bless
Bring them back!
This is so sad. These poor people need more than an apology
"Where's your muvver, Work-ouse...?".
Good god how cruel policies.
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So what I want to know is who sat there and documented this woman's life with such detail that you know all this or are you just filling in the blanks to make the video sound good?
Ebenezer Scrooge talked up the Workhouse..
Learning about the past can be painful but pain is weakness leaving the body.
Does the promo code not work for anyone else it keeps saying this code is not invalid for me
The uk is going backwards to this
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Was this betrayal of children brought to the attention of the Royal family, and if not, why not! It looks to me that things of that nature pass right by them while there living the life of luxury…that doesn’t sit well with normal folks. The greediest royal, Charles The Man Child, is the worst, he talks a good game but research how he lives!?! No one ever pushes that question to parliament! Or the media…why?!?
It is a man's world. And their egos and pleasure are above the rights of others.
Contrary to popular belief, poverty itself wasn't considered shameful in Victorian times. The poverty that was frowned upon was that which led to homelessness and destitution. The uber stringent Victorian moral code included an ultra strong work ethic, so destitution was almost universally considered to be the result of laziness and lack of drive. The poor law authorities didn't give one thought about how one could become destitute and homeless through no fault of their own. While doubtlessly some deserved the harsh treatment of the workhouse system, others deserved more compassion.
I definitely agree welfare queens should be put to work and have limited choices, but the Victorian workhouse system took it too far!
Separated families who tried to stay together; not helping people who ask for additional help - someone else making (tragic/terrible) choices for these children/[parents; hurts me soul to know these people suffered at the hands of others judgement!
EDIT to add: Living in filth and vermin is bad for health, but keeping a house clean takes time, human energy, money, she was left with few options for her kids, and if you have an injury impairing your ability to move around, gosh these people needed more help than they were given! Separation isnt *always* the best solution imo.
Maybe Bert knew he wasn’t actually illegitimate.
The fact that the Irish guy in Glasgow was deemed a "malingerer" had much to do with his Irish heritage....
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.........
My favorite book! So appropriate today!
They took the children out of the mines
But now the most popular game is Minecraft
The children yearn for the mines
Very interesting, could do without the interruptions though!
We all look through modern eyes every generation will look at it the same way how could it have been so bad,poor in 30s the 40s and into today have self awareness don’t repeat history
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The poor famlies can become ritch. Thats the story of the show.
Hahahaha
I wish discrimination truly was a thing of the past... The sad reality is it's not...
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Always Brutality of Economic-Society Systems is imposing to Forgetting( A sense of Responsibility For One & other ) inside Survival & Successful individual emotions & Behaviors...I Realized Crucial Behavior of British empire was Equal inside & outside Britain
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Oliver Twist. 1837 Novel by Charles Dickens.
Talk about kicking people while they're down! Just so sad to find out how your family was treated and I'm sure that my ancestors were treated very poorly also!
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The poor you will always have with you! Not a religious person but it is easily understood to be a fact.
So sad
I’m so confused, how did little Albert name Liddell as his father?? Was he not really illegitimate ?
I believe during that time despite the wife cheating and giving birth to another man child while still married, the child is still under the father's name. Despite it wasn't his blood relation.
Hopefully, we will escape in two years. Maybe sooner.
In brief, workhouses were Victorian England's own GULAGs. Period. Actually the last English workhouse was officially closed right the same year the last Stalinian gulag proper was also converted into something less punishing. Most pensioners of Gulags were sent there on the accusation of vagrancy or petty parasitism.
Felicity Kendal? This is an old documentary. She isn't with us anymore, yes? Oh no sorry, she is still around - who was I thinking of?
It was her sister Jennifer Kendal who died.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Kendal
Can u pls discuss the history and whereabouts of Marcos’ gold and wealth. Since another Marcos become a president in the Philippines
I wonder who the father of the boy is?
Pretty misogynistic comment from FK about her unfortunate relative. Calling her a bit of a goer! That poor woman may have had no say in having that child. Also it puts a different light on the idea of "white privilege" so many people of all races lived horrendous painful lives. It's horrible. All of it. Heartbreaking.
Still do. And yes its not about colour or race or… but about power and wealth contra economically underpriviliged
Barbara's next novel.. mom hooked up.. secrets.. coxs.. both have driver's.. whats the price of a gallon of milk? They both have no idea..
who is doing the narrating ?
‘Mr. Carson’ from Downton Abbey
@@karenavey2183 i thought the voice sounded familiar.
Newgate Prison. London.
The question is reparations for people whom are descendents of the laborers in the workhouse by the crown
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No wonder many folks scrambled to get away from their poverty in England and try their luck in foreign countries.
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Look at the policies of the 1922 trumplican political party. No Medicade, free school lunches and food stamps. Soon I may not have Social Security & Medicare. I live in South Florida.
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So, you’re saying that they’re policies are SOOOOO backwards, that it’s like we’re living back in 1922 again?
Desparate
I'm Irish and I want free money for what happened to my long dead and gone ansester.
I'm Canadian and I do too
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Dev asked for reparations.
You should read more.
Je ne suis pas britannique nmais en France le révolution française fini tus cete choses
They should bring back workhouses
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For people like you
I'm glad to here that Mr. Little was smart enough to get rid of an unfaithful wife. I just dumped a girlfriend that tried that stunt.
well she probably couldn't stand the fact that you don't know the difference between hear and here
So understandable. Poor girl having had to put up with that level of stupidity every day.
Clearly we need to bring these back
Cheating hoes get sent to the workhouse. Based
Say that again. What did you say?
Wow
I'm sorry your so unhappy in life. God bless you Lord.
@@emilyhays6458 well said
That's exactly the way it should be and the woman should be to blame for this sin because he's the one popping a kid out
Right. And she made that baby herself. Hallelujah! Immaculate Conception!
Read, They were White and they were slaves.
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Who the heck finds a mother of 9 attractive?????
BENEFIT SCROUNGERS..........could have said people on benefits
I bet u if we had work houses in the USA there wouldn't be nearly as many people choosing not to go back to work. I think a workhouse is a fine idea so long as its appropriately used
Haha. What a comment. This is 2023 and Britain still hasn’t faced up to its poor people and dealt socially with them.For that matter neither has Australia or New Zealand where I live
Great doc.. a bit of Botox going on there id say
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