9 London Plaques Packed With Errors
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- London is home to many commemorative plaques, which come in a variety of shapes, colours and sizes.
As there are so many dotted across the city, it's perhaps not surprising that a certain percentage contain errors- and, in some cases, outright lies! And in this video, I'd like to share 9 such examples with you...
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:36 Where was Charlie Chaplin really born?
02:55 Britain's First Fatal Car Accident?
06:44 Nancy's Steps...
08:44 The Pythons' Prank
09:46 Wren's Not In
11:09 Fake Film Stars
12:33 Patriot... or Traitor?
15:10 To E or Not to E?
17:46 Ageing Lillie
18:49 A Sore Spot...
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London Bridge at Lake Havasu (Ken Lund, Creative Commons)
John Cleese and Michael Palin (Eduardo Unda-Sanzana)
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Hello everyone,
Hope you're all keeping well.
When putting this video together, I noticed *another* plaque containing an error! Can you spot it too?...
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The Vauxhall Society plaque commemorating Chaplin at 'his' Kennington Road house mistakenly states his year of death as 1978 instead of 1977. Although considering he died on Christmas, I'd say it's close enough.
@@jacekolender1139 Well spotted Jacek ;-)
@@Robslondon I had to watch it again for it. 😊
Thank you for another great video!
Which goes to show you can't always believe all you read 😅, great video, thanks Rob, 🙏
@@thiest1205 Yep! Thank you ;-)
A plaque on all their houses...
Ha ha ;-)
This is a great comment!
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And not the teeth they're lying through.
What a genius idea for a video! You take London knowledge to a new level, Rob. Thanks for YET ANOTHER evening of Sunday brilliance 😊
Thank you so much David 😊
Kat(herine) Ford = Catford and Raven Bjorn = Ravensbourne (Park), which is adjacent to Catford.
Good spot James 😉
One would imagine the plaque is alluding to the Ravensbourne River and not the nearby park?
The river, which flows from a spring in Keston Park near Biggin Hill, joins with the Quaggy at Lewisham and becomes the Deptford Creek.
The origin of the name Catford is unknown. But, speculation is that it refers to where cattle crossed the Ravensbourne?
@@RobinHullBuilds On the map I have, Ravensbourne Park appears to be a neighborhood west of Catford; there is a park there, but it's called Ravensbourne Park Gardens.
I believe the park is named after the river.
@@oquocharlz I think you’re right 😉
Very interesting indeed. Your knowledge of London is amazing, and you have a delightful way of explaining it all. Thank you.
That means so much to me Roderic; many thanks my friend. Stay well.
Another very interesting video about London. I recall a Thames river trip in the 1960s when the tour guide pointed out Wren's house where he watched St Paul's being built. I have always thought that to be true - until now!!
Ha ha! Cheers ROBBOJAX, glad to be of service ;-)
There's as fascinating book by Gillian Tindall, The House by the Thames, that looks at the history of that house and the likely locations where Wren was genuinely based, among other things.
@@helenasquith5266 Thanks for that Helen, will look it up.
There's a similar plaque dedicated to "Benedict Arnold, Patriot" in St John, New Brunswick, where Arnold lived before returning to England. It's always amusing when an American tourist spots it.
Ah! Interesting, thank you David :-)
Nice one rob. Another high quality video. Better than most documentaries you see on tv theses day. Well done and thanks
That's so kind of you to say Tony, thank you. Stay well.
Informative as usual Rob,Thankyou.
Thank you! 😄
As usual , this does not disappoint! I’m in awe of your research capabilities Rob! 👍🏻♥️😃
Ah, thank you so much Lady Ellice 😊
An absolute joy from start to finish - and a particularly good choice of music too! Bravo! 👏👏👏
Thank you so much 😊 Choosing the music is one of my favourite parts of the process!
Very interesting as always Rob. I have often looked at the Sir Christopher Wren plaque at Bankside and not thought to query it, maybe it was an attempt by the owner to increase the value of his property. I do like the story 'behind' the St Mark's hospital plaque...piles of fun, or a bum steer!
Ha ha ;-) Cheers John!
I love that I learn something new every time I watch a video from you. Often times several new things!
Really appreciate that Patrick, thank you.
Rob, sorry to say I am fast running out of adjectives to qualify your dedication to detail in all your videos. You certainly covered some miles creating this video. One of your locations today brought back where I had seen the gas lamps. Mentioned in previous comments (Tavistock Street)
Bless you Butch, thank you so much for the kind words. Hope you’re keeping well.
Superb Rob, you had me on a trip down memory lane there. When I was a teenager, I used to go to the Hanwell Community Centre, which is a very imposing Victorian building and another place where Charlie Chaplin lived when it was a children's home. On the upper floors are cells the same as any Victorian prison and underneath the building is a huge basement, which is very creepy. As for the crash on Harrow On The Hill, I used to live on London Road and remember there were pictures of the actual crash, showing the wheel which virtually collapsed when they applied the breaks, in The Moon On The Hill pub on Station Road. I'm not sure if they are still there as I haven't been in there for years but they were very interesting. Keep up the great work.
Great comment!
I'd love to see those photos... I've drank in the Moon on the Hill but it's been quite a while since I was there, I don't remember seeing the photos at the time. Will have to hunt them down now!
Cheers and stay well ;-)
@@Robslondon back in the 80s I used to work in the centre of Harrow and used to drive past that plaque on a regular basis - was never able to park an take a look at it though- thought until now it was something to do with the school so I've learnt something new.
Also bad news - the Moon On The Hill was one of the pubs listed for closure so you might not be going back there. That said we do still have quite a choice of pubs around the area (I'm between Harrow & Uxbridge)
@@markwanklyn4195 Nice comment Mark, thank you! Yes, I have heard the Moon on the Hill is listed 😞 Stay well.
Interesting fact I helped my Father and his Company install the isotope store at Northwick Park Hospital. It was an arsenal from a scrapped battleship to prevent leakage of radiation from the isotopes, as a side note they also built the Nat West Tower, Hammersmith Hospital and Concorde Hangars at Heathrow in which we played cricket.
That’s fascinating Mick!
Thanks Rob. Fascinating and well researched as always. Two questions a) how do you think of topics like this and b) how on Earth do you research them?
Thank you so much Peter.
The ideas... I'm very lucky in that they come to me, although sometimes there are quiet periods (and other times when too many ideas represent themselves!) As for research, I have many books on London, and I also make use of newspaper archives.
Thanks and stay well!
Another great Video Rob. I enjoy discovering the various plaques on the wall, I feel like I am getting a wee history snippet. Its interesting to know that is a few instances not all is as written. I suppose you cannot always judge a book by it's cover. Thanks for uploading.👍🏻
Nice comment Andi, thank you.
Excellent video Rob 😊 I recognise a lot of those plaques but…now i know the history of them 😊 thanks 🙏
Cheers Greg!
First class as always Rob. Thank you and well done.
Thank you ☺️
As always, awesome video! 👍
The Quincey spelling theory sounds about right to me.
Ha ha! Thanks asheland ;-) Hope you're keeping well.
@@Robslondon indeed. ☺️
Thanks Rob!
Lovely! Just what I needed to accompany my cuppa and Hobnobs, on a lazy Sunday afternoon. Thanks!
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Great and interesting content. I love it as always. Thank you Robert. 👍👍👍💜💜💜
Thank you so much as always Sharon! Hope you're keeping well.
The usual high standard content Rob, thank you
A pleasure as always; thank you so much for watching.
Great video - I remember doing a Globe tour many years ago and the guide told use about the Michael Palin one.
Many thanks 🙂
Great stuff Rob another enjoyable watch!
It’s a pleasure John, thanks for watching!
Enjoyable and informative. Had a chuckle about Pauline and Cleese.
:-)
Another really interesting video. We are visiting London again soon on holiday from New Zealand and are keen to see some of the places in your videos.
Thank you! Hope you have a great time when you get here 😉 Stay well 🇳🇿
Another winner. Excellent!!
😄 Thank you!
I just think it's rather brilliant that MI5 could't tell the Americans when and where Chaplin was born. We need more of that right now. The one I found most awkward was the deliberate misspelling of Michael Palin's name.
😄 Lovely comment- and thank you so, so much for your kind support- I truly appreciate it!
Love the videos rob, keep them up !
Many thanks Jamiejosh 😊
Bravo sir, another well researched video.
Cheers Paul!
Hiya Rob,I've just subscribed to your channel this morning, what brilliant content it is, this is Paul in Whitehaven, Cumbria, England
Hi Paul, thank you so much for the kind words; really appreciate it! And it's good to have you here ;-) Stay well.
Another great video Rob. Thank you!
Thanks Liam, much appreciated!
Such Wonderful Content Thank you Rob we absolutely love your channel 👍
Bless you D C, thank you :-) That means a lot to me. Stay well.
Great subject, thanks for sharing this.
It's a pleasure as always Stephen; thanks for watching.
🤩 another quality production
Thank you Sarah Louise!
Thank you very much
Thanks!
Lol as an Irish man, I can safely say that’s probably the most interesting thing about Offaly
😂 Cheers Sam 😉
Excellent - and some superb filming (tripods do make all the difference!).
Thank you Edward! I do all of the filming on an i-Phone; it's incredible what such technology can achieve nowadays ;-)
Thanks for an excellent video. Very enjoyable. I like the bogus character plaques in Catford. I am surprised at what seems to be sloppy research on several of the others,
Many thanks Keith. Yes, it does make you wonder doesn’t it….
Another thoroughly researched video, I think your theory of the Quincy spelling is entirely plausible 👍
Thank you Gruner! ;-)
Oh NO ive been lied to all my life 😮😮 how will i ever recover from all these lies 🧐 A fab presentation Rob, ever you had a little chuckle in your voice at times 😎 Cheers DougT
Ha ha! Thanks Doug; sorry to spoil the fun! ;-)
Wow, I didn’t realise those interesting facts about the plaques.
Charlie Chaplin though, who would of known he was born in a caravan. Either way I say he was Britain’s first national treasure and legend. He was simply a comedy genius.
Great video and looking forward to the next one ❤
Such a lovely comment Gill, thank you 😊 Hope you’re keeping well.
A great Sunday evening video as always.👍
Cheers Paul 😉
As a lifelong patient of St Marks I am certainly interested to learn the last one when I just so happen to be drinking from a St Marks mug
Thanks Alan 😄
As fascinating as they are entertaining, thank you!
Thank you so much Anne 😊
Awesome! Another brilliant video!
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@@Robslondon I recently searched for the site of Vangelis' former studios, Nemo, which was situated on a small road near Marble Arch. The building was knocked down a couple of decades ago and replaced with what looks like a small block full of offices. I expected to see a blue plaque commemorating the composer, he was, after all, a revolutionary creator of music, responsible for a host of albums and soundtracks including Bladerunner and Chariots of Fire, composed and recorded on this very spot. I googled blue plaques and found that the person commemorated must be dead for at least twenty years and the building must be the same as when they lived there. I wish there were another way to commemorate him on the site. He really is a very important figure in the history of music created in London.
I completely agree. Blade Runner is one of my favourite films; made all the better by the late, great Vangelis' score. @@paulwally9007
Enjoyed watching this on the treadmill. I can't believe how you do all the amazing research you do. Very interesting post. You would think that the people who are posting the blue plaques would do more research. As always very enjoyable presentation.
Lovely comment Lesley! Thank you; hope you had a good workout 😉
Yet more Brilliance, Robert!
So looking forward to sharing a pint one day... 🙃
Cheers Bryan 😉🍺
OMG! I had no idea there were so many errors in blue plaques! Someone needs to correct them! Very interesting as usual Rob!
Ha ha! Thanks Vicky 😉 Hope you’re keeping well.
Brilliant again Rob.
Why you don't have 10X followers I don't understand.
Thanks so much Michael.
I won’t lie, it can be tough going here sometimes- which is why the fantastic support from wonderful people such as your good self means so much to me.
Really appreciate it: thank you my friend.
Michael i concur
I completely agree, Rob. I hope the support of your loyal fans helps you whenever you have any doubts about your channel!
@@williamevans9426 It does William, far more than many people may even realise.... stay well sir.
@@Robslondon You, too!
Those steps at London Bridge are lethal when wet. I've left the Mudlark many times heading for Monument Station over the Bridge and nearly taken a tumble
Rob, that last one was a blinder, I think the correct name should be restored. 😂
Thank you once again, great vid.
Ha ha! Thanks Kerry!
Hi Rob, another fascinating video. How on earth you think of new subject matter I don’t know. The plaque commemorating de Quincey is of especial interest to me as, on my maternal side, I’m distantly related to him. I had another ancestor, Malcolm Elwin, a cousin of my mother, who in the 1930s penned a biography of de Quincey. I’m surprised that de Quincey’s plaque hasn’t in recent years been ‘cancelled’ as he was strong supporter of British Imperialism and slavery.
Thanks so much Mark, what a fascinating connection to have! Cheers and stay well 😉
Impressive amount of detail and knowledge of London, which I thought I knew, having lived there for the first 25 years of my life. But obviously I still have a lot to learn!
That’s so kind of you; really appreciate your kind words and support Christopher.
Good work 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks Mick
This was fun -- thanks!
Thanks Cindy ☺️
Thanks!
Thank you so much Eric, you are a gentleman :-) Stay well sir.
I live in New Jersey in the states. There used to be a bar here called Lily Langtry's. Now I know where the name most likely came from. Another great viewing.
Yes, she was known as The Jersey Lily. Jersey as in the island, of course, not your home state. And wasn't she, amongst other things, one of Edward VII's many mistresses or have I got that wrong?
Thanks Phil- yes, that rings a bell, I think you may well be correct.
Thanks Scott; glad to be of service! Stay well my friend.
Thanks for another cracking vlog very interesting 🧐
A pleasure as always David, thank you for watching
Where do you find these fascinating oddities? Another entertaining video, thanks very much
Thanks Angie! It's a mixture of luck, my library of London books and things I picked up when working as a cabbie :-) Stay well.
What can I say - another fascinating episode. You really should consider putting some of your content into a book.
I really appreciate that William, thank you!
I do have two books published, and in an ideal world I would like to write more... although if I'm honest, this channel has a far wider reach than my books do; publishing is such a ferocious game!
Fingers crossed though, maybe one day it will happen ;-) Cheers and stay well.
@@Robslondon Yes, I've seen your books on Amazon, so I thought an addition to your 'oeuvre' in the currrent vein might be an idea. I do, however, agree that all the effort of securing a publisher, etc., etc., is often not straightforward! Will very best wishes, and I look forward to many more RUclips episodes.
@@williamevans9426 Thanks again William, really appreciate your kind words. Stay well.
I've made another donation via the 'thanks' link below the film, which I hope is helpful - I know these excellent episodes can't be made for nothing! (P.S. I deleted the auto-comment, as i didn't make the donation to receive any kudos from other fans.) With very best wishes from Oxford.
@@williamevans9426 Bless you William, that means a great deal to me. Thank you my friend and stay well; much appreciated.
Danke!
That’s so kind; many many thanks indeed 😊 Stay well Marcomanseckisax
Thanks
Bless you Christopher, thank you so much 😊 Stay well.
Another great video Rob. I must say I’m a little sad that ‘Wren’s House’ is not in fact where he stayed during the building of St Paul’s. I always rather enjoyed imagining him living there.
Thanks John…. Sorry to be a killjoy 😉
Enjoyed seeing the mistakes
Thanks 😊
Hi Rob, a bit of trivia for you.... Today, in Australia (12th June) we have a Public Holiday to celebrate the King's Birthday. It is the same date that was used for the Queen's Birthday. The only two states that celebrate on a different date are Queensland and Western Australia. Anyway, my dream is to one day go to England for a long holiday and check out the little known attractions that you showcase here in London as well as the usual ones. I'd love to go to Camden, see something at the Roundhouse etc. So much history to see. I wish I'd been in London 76 -79.
Thank you for such a lovely comment Helen :-) Enjoy the public holiday- and hope you make it to London soon!
Hi Rob a pleasure as always 💕🦆
Thank you Pam 😊
Really interesting, especially Benedict Arnold, he comes up in a NWA song and in the movie straight outta compton, I now know what it is all about.
Thanks so much, I didn’t know about that lyric, will have to look it up!
Amazing and dedicated research Rob.
Thank you so much Michael. Stay well.
Rob your content is so enjoyable and interesting. One suggestion....could you do a review of the Marquee Club on Wardour Street? I spent many nights there in th 70s.
Charlie was definitely born in Bearwood, Birmingham, just a stone's throw from here. Location is now a beautiful park.
20:05 great video amd fascinating history, the knowledge you have is extraordinary.
Although, and I hate to be thay guy, Northwick Park is in Brent (the boundary is on rhe Kenton Road about 70 metres north of the station).
Thanks so much Quintus. And yes; you're quite right about Northwick Park.... I should know, because I was born there! ;-) Brent is what's listed on my birth certificate. Stay well.
@Robslondon same here, although otherwise I was always based in Harrow while in London.
Interesting video, I always thought that Raven Bjorn bloke sounded a bit dodgy 😂
Ha ha ;-)
Also Lily Langtry is well known in Langtry, Texas..... !
Ah!
@@Robslondon What ever you do in the Jersey Lily, never, ever shoot the picture of Miss Langtry. or else Judge Roy Been will fine you two bits for firing a gun in. public place....and $52 USD for lying around...
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We should form a Society to petition the authorities to correct these greivous errors, particularly the St Marks one. Alternatively we should just feel smug, knowing the truth.
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Well, the plaques may be dodgy, but the stories behind them are brilliant.
😄 Cheers Chris
An added note to your Benedict Arnold piece, the sign indicated that he was a Major General and American Patriot. He was indeed patriotic in a number of battles prior to his traitorous behavior. For the record major general was the highest rank in the Colonial Army, ranking below only the commander-in-chief, George Washington. If his motive for treason was that he wanted higher rank that would mean he would want to overthrow George Washington. I suspect that the allure of 20,000 pounds was more likely the motivation as the Continental Army was not known for meeting the demands of payroll in a timely fashion. As an American Patriot myself, being raised in Concord, Massachusetts where the rebellion truly began, the house where the traitor Arnold resided is not likely to be on my list of sights to visit when next I come to London. But I'm glad you pointed it out so I can avoid it. As always, your research and presentation were fantastic. Thank you again.
Many thanks Paul. Back when I was driving a cab, I told an American visitor about Benedict Arnold's house... he asked if we could stop by there- so he could "pee on his doorstep"!!
Rob, you must admit, we Yanks have an interesting way of expressing ourselves!
Of course on this side of the Atlantic, a great many of us consider the rebellion against the Crown to be traitorous behaviour and those who supported the British cause to be the true patriots. However, I don't think that view is popular in the USA!!!!!!
@@davidjackson2580 That was all two and half centuries ago. I know I've moved on from all that. Besides, my best friend is English and lives in Devon.
@@paulbagley1020 Yes, it was a long time ago. I also know Americans who I get on with very well. I just mean that many people here think the American revolution was wrong and regret it happened. That's doesn't affect how we get on with Americans today, nor does the way the Americans are very proud of their revolution stop them being friendly to people here.
You got lucky filming Catford Broadway, missing all the characters that hang about there
To be honest they were there Gary… But I avoided filming them as I didn’t want to get into any confrontations! 😂
The Waltham Forest Heritage plaque marking the birthplace of Fanny Cradock is another example of a misspelt surname. Leaving aside the fact that it was effectively an assumed name in any case, the plaque has it spelt as CRADDOCK.
Good one Declan ;-)
A wretched 20mph😂..i always did think Charlie Chaplin was from Birmingham to be honest. Lilly Langtree good spot👏👏
Ha ha ;-) Cheers Dave, hope you're keeping well.
Yes I thought that about the Quincy spelling
Plaques for almost anyone. Haunted London, there would be plaques everywhere, not enough space , I was told. I asked someone about this topic , about trying to find historical plaques. From the old hood. large placard metal sign reads, It is the area where the Sunkist orange was invented. The Guy was a Horticulturists. My favorite are all the Freemason architecture. Commemorative of the unusual stuff, the discovery of water at massacre springs, made note of out in the middle of nowhere.
Thanks Steve
The last one??? Definitely is not to be sniffed @😳😁🆘🇬🇧
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Here's a plaque I've always been curious about...I can't remember how I came across it now. On Emperor's Gate there is a blue plaque up on the wall at what looks like 46 Emperor's Gate but you can't actually go down that street using Google maps so you can't get a close up of the plaque. I had also seen a video done by someone who posts London walks who took a stroll down that street but made no mention of the plaque. For some reason this peaked my interest. I looked on the English Heritage site that lists blue plaques and lo and behold...no mention of a plaque on Emperor's Gate.
Interesting... I'll have to go and take a look! As you may know, not all blue plaques are English Heritage; there are other schemes too, some of which are coloured blue. I think John Lennon lived at Emperor's Gate for a time? May be for him?
@@Robslondon I was thinking it might be for Lennon but where he lived is actually not there anymore if I recall correctly. Unless they just randomly put up a plaque to mention he lived on the street at some point. LOL.
And no, I didn't know that there were other blue plaques outside English Heritage, except for the handful of fake ones you've mentioned and one other person pointed out. It was just weird that the plaque is there in that Google photo but didn't appear to be there on that guy's video of his walk. Unless I got the date of his walk mixed up and it was before the plaque was up. That could be it too.
@@Albanwinter I'll try and have a look down there. next time I'm in the area ;-)
De Quincey is buried in Edinburgh in St Cuthbert's Churchyard at the west end of Princes Street
Interesting, thank you- beautiful city
There's a house in Muswell Hill in which the man who invented tooth paste once lived. You can easily tell which house it is - there's no plaque on it.
:-D
What's the name of the font you use for your titles? It seems familiar! :D
Blimey Larry! What an honour to see you here; I love your work!
The font is called 'Bobby Jones' (I make the thumbnails with Canva).
Cheers mate and stay well ;-)
@@Robslondon Aw, bless you Sir, muchly appreciated!
But thank you for the info, I'll have to see if I can nick a copy somewhere, :D I was wondering it if was the font the TinTin books used.
BTW are you on Twitter or Discord Etc. Love to have a chat some time! :)
It does look like the TinTin font doesn’t it!
Didn’t really realise that until you just mentioned it though… I loved the books as a kid, so maybe there’s some subconscious thing going on there? 😉
I’m on Twitter, yes; @CabMirror please do drop me a line Larry, it would be a pleasure- I’ve enjoyed your work for a long time.
Cheers,
-Rob
@@Robslondon No worries, I'll drop you a follow now :)
@@Larry Nice one, cheers mate ;-)
NANCY'S STEPS are not in fact what Dickens described. The meeting between Nancy and Mr Brownlow was on 'London Bridge Stairs' which is the wherry landing slopes next to the Bridge, down to the river. The David Lean film gets the location right. The PEDESTRIAN staircase between Borough High Street-London Bridge and Montague Close (the location of the plaque) was created when the Stairs were removed in 1852 for the building of 'Hibernia Chambers' but now known as Glaziers Hall. I have tried to get this silly thing removed many times.
Ok, thank you
I bet the de Quincy mis-spell was just to ensure it fitted on a standard plaque…. Like the history of American Aluminum…
Thanks Rob..
Cheers Doug ☺️
The Charlie Chaplin birthplace is more than rumor. I am Rromani, and our histories tend to be oral, rather than written, and my whole 67 year life Chaplin has been known amongst my people as being born in a caravan. The finding of the Hill letter merely confirmed what was already widely known amongst us.
We have always been proud of Chaplin, as the first of us to achieve such great success and fame. Sadly, this pride was not shared by Chaplin himself, who appeared to think knowledge of his real origins would harm his career. As a result, despite knowing the full story of his origins, he never admitted it in public, and was known to turn away our people who would try to see him. In his mind, being accused of being a communist sympathizer was bad enough, but being exposed as a Gypsy would be far worse.
Today we have growing pride in our ethnicity and origins. Recently I traveled to the Thar Desert in India to find and meet our ancestor people, the Kalbelia. It was a wonderful experience, like finding long lost brothers and sisters. Their oral history still remembers us leaving to desert a thousand years ago to go to Afghanistan, so they welcomed me as family. Unfortunately, in Chaplin's time we were taught to be ashamed of our heritage, and he died before the more recent movement to confront prejudice and publicly embrace who we are rather than just try to hide things.
And of course he had no birth certificate. Those living on the drom back then would have nothing to do with such things. We kept things to ourselves.
Wonderful comment artistjoh; thank you for taking the time to write and share; I enjoyed reading that.
Stay well my friend.
@@Robslondon I am old enough to remember when we would talk about Chaplin being born in a horse drawn van, but the general public would just ignore that because "who would ever believe a lying thieving Gypsy?" And Chaplin was silent on the subject. The Hill letter coming to light was like "finally! Vindication."
The fact that Chaplin kept that letter is significant, because decades earlier he had destroyed anything he had that connected him to his mother's real life. It seems that in his older age he likely was remembering his mother and the vans and horses. Mothers you never forget, and horses you never forget. Even after they moved into a house they would have visited the camp and been around the traveler family. It leaves a powerful impression on a young mind, and knowing the feeling of family, of belonging, is deeply meaningful. Keeping that letter in his older years means that it all still meant something to him.
@@artistjohout of interest, I’m from the Lovells, who are your folkie? X
@@NinnersNanners Sastipe. I am Romanisael. My family spent 350 years in Norway. We were deported from Scotland in the 1544 Egyptians Act that was purging Gypsies and Jews, then left Norway in the 19th century when the Norwegians were trying to exterminate us. We came to Van Diemen's Land, New Zealand, and Australia. We are few here, but in this part of the word we don't have to face the No Pikey's prejudices. I am a direct descendant of Steffan, who is the first recorded Rromani in Norway. Naturally, Steffan was a horse breaker (for the local Militia.)
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Charlie Chaplin was a Gypsy? I'm one too so thats a pretty cool fact to learn!
Glad to help! ;-)
Not related to London, but I'm sure I read when I was a kid that the first 2 cars in Cornwall had a head on collision. I've just tried to see if I can find anything related to it on Google but nothing comes up.
Interesting 😉
Talking about Charlie Chaplin there is (was?) a blue plaque on the wall outside of the Dog House pub in Kennington Lane. It stated " Charlie Chaplin's dad drank here"...... I dont think it's official though! 😁
Ah, interesting! To be fair, I imagine his dad did drink there... the pub opposite the Imperial War Museum also has a 'Charlie's Corner' where he is said to have seen his father for the last time.
@@Robslondon that's a shame. Went on "Street View". They have refurbished the pub since I last drank there and it's no longer on the wall outside. They may have been asked to remove it.
Absolutely fascinating, and very well researched, although l do not think the boys of Harrow School will give up their belief easily! And just WHAT was the mysterious additional incorrect plaque. I just cannot find it.🤔
Ha ha! Thanks Jacqueline… the bonus plaque is near the start of the video…
@@Robslondon Thank you. I shall look yet again!!!!
@@jacquelineharrod6386 Think about years/famous people who died 😉
Charlie Chaplin, death stated as 1978 on one plaque?🤞
@@jacquelineharrod6386 Bingo! Well spotted Jacqueline 😉
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Thank you!
I recommend the book Lies Across America by James Loewen. It is filled with similar stories
Nice one Jo, thank you. I'll look that up, sounds interesting.
When Charlie Chaplin his mother and older brother Sydney were living at No 94 Barlow St Walworth on the 1891 census, my husband’s widowed 2xGt Grandmother and some of the family were at No 79. Both Chaplin boys were stated to have been born at Walworth and Sydney’s birth was registered locally. The Hill family seem London based going way back. Not convinced about the Smethwick thing.
Thanks Nicola… I reckon he was born in London too 😉
Well I for one, would find a plaque commemorating the Infirmary for the Cure of Fistula and other Diseases of the Rectum, much more interesting than one for St Marks Hospital. But some thing along the lines of, "Upon this site in 1835, a famous person (insert name here) had their arsehole violated.", to hold an even greater public interest.
Ha ha ;-)
10:30 "...and over two hundred years before Catherine of Aragon supposedly popped her head in here..." I'm at a bit of a loss here.
It was a mistake, I make them sometimes.