I especially love this episode because they are excavating a castle where my ancestors lived and died. My 23rd great grandfather was Peter de Montfort, to which they are researching and discussing at 18:18 in this video.
Neat!!! I would enjoy that so! Even I got excited for t's when I registered! 🇬🇧 (... and I never post a British Flag! never, 1st, you'll see below) They could come to the USA and do my GG X 6 Lynch, founder of Lynchburg, VA Appx 1770, pre American Revolution 1776, our Independence from King George and England. That makes me DAR, "Daughters of the American Revolution", a prestigious affiliation here in the USA, and *rare for one of Irish lineage.* The other side is 3rd Generation County Kerry Ireland (Murphy and Sullivan) I'm really partial to that side, but they're all gone from the immediate family. Mother was a only child. Really know you must be thrilled to have this on film. Best Wellbeing, Beth, aka (Mary Beth, lol) 🍀 Tennessee, USA Slainte!
When I'm feeling a bit low, I watch another episode of Time Team--that always raises my spirits and piques my curiosity. I used to teach Medieval literature--and I'm so excited to think about those times from the perspective of the people who lived on the top of that hill. Thank you
A lot of people take Tonys' antics and perceived impatience way to seriously. His job as show host is to provide a link between the academics and the lay-person. His 'impatient questions' are a tool to get the person to further explain what is going on and *gasp* why they are doing it! They are a way to move onto another subject or to keep the conversation going and the information flowing. Please, cut the guy a little bit of slack and see him for what he is; A link between the archeology and the viewing public. ;^)
Well said. As someone who watched the original broadcasts I don't get the hostility. People who complain about Tony Robinson are perhaps unaware that he was also the creator and catalyst behind Time Team, and for years previous had done a lot of historical themed television.
The comments on the videos of the first 2-3 series are quite critical of Tony's mannerisms - too enthusiastic, too many questions etc. But as a kids, we'd watch one episode a week and 1 series a year. Now we're watching 1 series a weekend. Maybe that's a reason, a Tony overdose??
Here in the states, we just recently discovered Time Team. My husband and I are working through the episodes. Thank you for posting the shows for those of us who never got to see Time Team when originally broadcast. What a treasure! And as for Tony Robinson; he is a delight!
kathy4836 Hello from across the pond. Before Time Team began, there was a preliminary series of perhaps 4 episodes with Mick Aston as a central figure....might have been set in Dartmoor. Anyway a bit of googling will reveal it , and it's on RUclips ....really good. It was called Time Signs :)
@kathy4856 can I recommend Tony Robinson tracking the real Robin Hood if you're a Tony fan. He also did one on tracking the 'real' Da Vinci code both of these on youtube both I've seen recently. Enjoy
Tonys earlier work is very interesting too. He is most well known for his study of medieval peasantry, but I highly recommend his investigations of the odd inhabitants of boffs island and the english garden of someone called 'fat tulip'
I've seen the new team and hosts. They don't have the verve and interest that this bunch does. The program is much less interesting. They're just--absently serious about everything. You don't learn as much.
Good on Tony for pointing out it was Barney's perseverance that led to finding that pretty mortar. That moment also shows Tony's true love of archeology in the reverential way he held the piece.
Classic Time Team...digging busily at a mystery until the pieces fit together...various experts showcasing their excellent talents....camaraderie and professionalism.
I'm a Primitive Archery fan- what a beautiful Longbow, and, even better, EXCELLENT form on the gentleman shooting the Chainmail Pig. Too bad Yew trees aren't a "thing" here in the States- I need a Welsh Longbow to complete my "Primitive Battery": a Mongolian Recurve, a Japanese Yumi and a mid 70's Bear recurve. I have been binge-watching TT...loving this!!
The English may not like Americans per say but The Brits I've met and seen on TV and such seem to be very likeable chaps. I do enjoy their programs . Such as Top Gear , Doctor WHo and Time Team. They do it without all the cursing , name calling and temper tantrums and are quit entertaining.
Oh there's plenty of great swearing on tv. Just after the watershed at 9pm none of that silly beeping nonsense but not in documentaries. I can't imagine Mick saying "oi Phil you West country bastard what the fuck have you got in your cunting trench"😂😂😂
Jeremy Clarkson HATES Americans, misses no opportunity to voice his prejudices. He recently invited a Chinook onto his farm for RAF training.....an American invented the Chinook, what is he thinking 😱
Whether it is Top Gear or this show, the Brits have a great way of combining these oddball characters. Most American telelvision is banal (see any reality show) But I have been watching one of these episodes each night. Hilarious and informative. Makes me want to carry around a shovel and trowell (PS. I live in Colorado. A long way away from the British Isles).
Justin Chipman in the USA, none of these people are good looking enough to get on tv, or it would be very rare. It’s what I’ve always appreciated about TV from the U.K., they use relatable people not just those that one the luck of the draw with DNA.
The HUN Bow was also excellent and needed less pull to use. As the Romans found out and others. Victors art work is excellent, would be nice to have a On Line Store to purchase.
Victor Ambrus and Mick Aston released a book titled "Recreating the Past" which has many of his drawings. There are a few other books he realeased as well.
That bow vs crossbow contest was utter rot. A bow took years to learn and decades to master. The crossbow on the other hand can be picked up and shot accurately by just about any one strong enough to span it. It's not about speed in shooting the weapon but how long it took to learn to use it accurately. The crossbow made it possible for a peon to pick up a weapon and kill the lords and their knights.
Other way round. The contest was crap because the Crossbow used was poorly made with a low draw-weight, probably by an amateur given it was the early 2000s. You're correct that the crossbow can be picked up and used easily, but you're over-estimating how hard it is to train longbow, the English in particular were obligated by law to practice Longbow every Sunday, that included the peasants. You're also overlooking that cost and maintenance also come into play. Crossbows are more mechanically complicated to make and maintain than a Longbow. Parts of them are steel, meaning you have to worry about rust, the strings are far more prone to shrinking and loosening factoring in weather conditions. They aren't peasant weapons. They're expensive mechanical devices even to this day. Their benefit lays in the hands of professional mercenary forces like the Genoese, with rich paymasters backing them. A longbow will kill a knight as easily as a crossbow, at a cheaper cost. It's always faster, and often more devastating due to the length of its powerstroke, from ear to hand. The crossbow compensates for it's lacking powerstroke by mechanics and a string that's under far greater tension, but in turn that string needs yet another piece of complex steel machinery to even prime it. The more powerful the crossbow, the longer it takes to shoot, to the point where you're probably going to be using two, with a retainer doing the heavy lifting of the reload to maintain a decent rate of shot. That's double the cost of something that was already more expensive, plus the cost of paying the other man to load/reload. About the only real benefit the crossbow has, aside from ease of training, is the ability to always have a shot readied because the nut locks the string in place until the trigger arm is squeezed.
@@RagPlaysGames All your points are correct. The crossbow was anything but a peasant's weapon, and the homemade, hand-spanned model used in the video would be far too weak to inflict serious wounds on a soldier.
That American is Joe Hardy, founder of "84 Lumber" and 97 yrs old in 2020! His daughter now runs the company, but old Joe was interested in just about everything and he had the money to follow his interests.
The crossbow was mainly used inside the castles from the slits. The castle defenses gave the cover for the time needed to reload the bow. In the hands of a good archer they were ultimately more accurate that the longbow but they took much more time to reload.They were the equivalent of an assassins rifle. The crossbow shown on the footage was actually quite small. A lot of the original crossbows were much bigger. The longbow on the other hand was very powerful and shot straight at a target they could inflict an incredible amount of damage. Having done archery myself I know that to be able to set up and shoot this strength bow you needed to have very strong arms and necks. The image shown in movies of thin and weak archers is rubbish. They were heavily built and I am sure that they carried swords as well because faced with hand to hand combat their strength would not only show them to be good archers but also good soldiers.
You use shoulder muscles when you shoot a bow it's called back tension when you bring your shoulder blades together you don't really need that much arm strength, yes I've done archery.
I tried archery (was taken to an archery club last year) and I struggled to draw the modern bows so much! The longbow, on the other hand, was great, I could actually aim and not get slapped with the string. I didn't know my neck would ache so long afterwards, so I see what you mean about archers being strongly built.
@@kelest4215 the bow was probably at the wrong pound for (the amount of weight you pull back, and if it was a compound they can be difficult at the start) you. When you use a bow you have roll your elbow in so you don't hit and wearing a arm gard is a good idea as well, like I said you use your shoulder more then your arms. I was shooting at a national level.
Skeletons of archers recovered from the Mary Rose were found to have enlarged bones of their left arms due to lifelong use of powerful longbows. The bows that were found within the wreck are estimated to have draw weights in the range of 100-185 pounds.
They only briefly touched on the crossbow's main advantage. It took a bowman years of practice to build up the required strength to accurately shoot a 150 pound bow. It was almost a profession in itself. You could develop a decent crossbow archer in a week or two. So your everyday farmer or townsman could become deadly in between their busy seasons and still make a significant contribution in times of conflict. It's almost the difference between a career soldier and a militiaman.
This was a good episode! I live right next to the remains of a castle, and never thought of where the stones came from or where they went. I have my suspicions, but can't prove it :(
Looking at the CIPM (1413-1485), we see: pg11, 1415, Sir William Beauchamp, "Beaudesert castle and manor..."; pg 364, 1473, Sir Ralph Boteler, "Beaudesert manor..."; pg 365, 1474, Alice Lovel [Sir Ralph's widow], "Beaudesert manor...". So, no mention of a castle by 1473, and the last mention is in 1415. It looks like the castle declined between 1415 and 1473 then. Given Sir Ralph was focussed on rebuilding Sudeley Castle in 1442+, perhaps he robbed Beaudesert to help build it?
The battle of Evesham which is mentioned here wasn't really a battle, it was more of an attack on an army's baggage train and it's unprepared escort, with resulting slaughter. To quote a chronicle of the time; "and thus was the murder of Evesham, for battle it was not."
Most of the humbler folk from the past would probably think archeologists were all daft. They must have thought it very funny that we could get so excited to find their broken rubbish and pig’s jaws. The higher status individuals might have said, “well, of course! How could anyone fail to be interested in our lives?” Speculation and conjecture, to be sure. And sweeping generalizations. So don’t come down on me. Just having fun.
At fifteen I used to love Archery, and my bow a 35 pound draw on it. O Ya, no remote control, no microwave, no color TV and we had money, no cell phone of course. Lets see that must have been 1971.
Did you notice the camera guy hanging out of the front seat of the helicopter? I never considered how they got the shots of the passengers before. Scary, but I'm sure he/she was buckled in. Or perhaps the pilot had he or she by the belt?
According to the best records available the Yew Longbow took many years to master properly and a good bowman could loose 10 to 12 arrows a minute because of the time and strength needed to bend the bow which was usually around the 150 lb pull, while the training to use a crossbow was only a few weeks. To keep a good supply of bowman required permanently employed bowman and was expensive while anyone could called up and taught to use the crossbow. Also the yew longbow had a greater range.
Males were also compelled to practice, shoot at the butes, butts? From what 12-14 to 60 years of age? Although I don't think there'd be many ancient sixty year olds back then pulling on a string.
@@eboracum2012 That was only true for a few hundred years around the 13th to 16th centuries. Even then it was and order directed at the families who worked for themselves and the soldiers of the peers.
That compition, longbow versus crossbow was wonky. Thats like comparing a sniper rifle with a machine gun. You know who will win before they even start.
If you are talking rate of fire, the long bow wins. If you are referring to penetration the crossbow wins. Depends on the armor of your opponent. The Romans had a variety of crossbows, lost tech in England for centuries.
The Montfords of Beaudesert, as well indeed, as Sir Piers (Peter) de Montfort I, Lord of Beaudesert, ( b. Circa 1215 ), are some of my long-ago ancestors. Fascinating stuff this! Archaeology is a passion!
+Gina Lynn - Mine too. Both Thurston deMontefort and Roger de Warwick (aka Roger de Beaumont) and their assorted family members. Fun to see what my ancestors were up to and where they lived.
Elspeth Graham I know this is a very old comment, but I just recently delved into my wife’s genealogy as well as Time Team for the first time, and she too is descended from Roger de Beaumont. So hi cousin-in-law! :)
"Most Medieval archers used bows made from you." I have a couple of issues with this: how/when do they intend to get hold of me? And, though I appreciate their admiration of my attributes, why me specifically?
Being an archer myself it's great to see bowmaking. Those english longbowmen were famous. And indeed, nowadays most longbow male archers don't pull more than 50-60pounds. Ob very rare occasions someone pulls 80.
I lived in Belgium in the 70s… all the popular American tv shows were aired on the Flemish and French channels. Belgium had sub-titles with original English audio. Germany and France tv dubbed over in their native languages.
It is a sad story. A beautiful castle left to fall down or be brought down & sold for it's stones. People lived there, died, fought for others, and this is what is left to show that anyone had ever been there.
I think it was the saddest for the "lowborn" who had a hard life under the rule of the moneyed class. Hmmm, makes me sound like a communist, doesn't it ? :o)
Very enjoyable... though the crossbow/ longbow competition was obviously ridiculous! (A crossbow that is cocked with that much ease is hardly worth anything as soon as the defender wears more than a sweatshirt - the advantage of the thing being exactly what the cb bloke said: "being able to shoot from any position" .... making ready behind a huge shield (carried by the second guy) and then shooting without exposing a lot of the body.
I love robin but i havent really had any success finding more from him unrelated to time team. Anyone know if there is any lectures, interviews or books involving him?
Seems the locals, for over 900 years, have not been too curious. Robbers of old 800 yrs ago made off and left the heavy stuff. Is a medieval painted tile worth much?
Remember that there were no machines to do the work back then. Everything was done by muscle power and people were doing hard physical work from childhood, so they were stronger than we are now.
By constantly training and building your muscles to overcome the tension of the bow. When they found Henry the VIII’s warship, the Mary Rose, they were able to identified the bones of the longbow men by the flattened ulna and radius of the forearm. The flattening resulted from the tension of the bow over years in the butts practicing.
Donna Perez I googled too. No reference to him anywhere in relation to a castle. The guy is now in his nineties. I don't think he will do anything. I don't know why. Probably the view of the castle was a bit disappointing (not resembling the castle in Disneyland?). Furthermore he would neve have gotten permission anyway. If you like newbuilt castle, go to Elzass region in France where the German emperor built a exact copy of a huge medeaval castle with everything in it in the 19th century. Splendid stuff.
I thought the idea in rather bad taste, though I'm sure his heart was in the right place. In order to build a replica they would endanger the actual remains underneath. There's no way it could be done. In most other cases of similar types, some of the castle was still standing, enough so that it could be called restoring, but with a clear distinction made between the modern restoration and the actual old building. That is if you have respect for historical authenticity. I would also assume that if you bought a scheduled property privately, that the legal limits as to what you may or may not do with that property are made absolutely clear.
I think most of us have had a "Wouldn't it be nice to..." moment and fairly shortly reconsidered! Wouldn't make any difference in this case - permission would never have been forthcoming. If you would like to see fortifications that have been substantially reconstructed, as opposed to conservation and stabilisation, visit Pembroke castle and see how you feel about the reconstructed bits of the curtain wall. Kids love racing through it, but...
When they were talking about that fellow wanting to rebuild the castle I could relate. I watch alot of these and other shows about ancient buildings I always wonder what it would cost to actually rebuild those. I know they're taking a stab at it with the Parthenon. It must run in the quillions. I wouldn't even begin to know who to ask...
Hiffinhoffin I don‘t know wether you‘re interested in Roman stuff, but there‘s a town called „Carnuntum“ in Austria, where they are excavating and rebuilding(in part) a typical Roman town.
Baron Thurstan de Montfort born in the year 1125, is in my family tree, I have traced it all the way back to Thurston De Montfort in the year 0947. If you like I can give you the information I have.
You wouldnt crenelate a wall and have no battlements behind it. Its either a design feature to look nice or a defensive feature, no battlements means its not defensive and it while beautiful at the time there was a need to be defensive.
I can't believe the size of the crowds of locals gathered . Don't they have things to do ? The fascination with ancient ruins of property once owned by some powerful ogre escapes me .
Many people have an interest in the history of their locality or country, others do not. There's always the kartrashians and others of their ilk for those who prefer that sort of thing.
i have never understood why people went to all the effort to destroy these buildings ? I can only assume that the owners were hated or were politically out of favor. Did Cromwell destroy them all ?
I think the big thing with the crossbow is you don't need years of training to use it. Anyone can. SO while a few hundred longbowmen are better individually, a few thousands peasants with crossbows will win.
What part of England or the UK is Phil from? His accent cracks me up. It sounds like he has little Irish twang in his voice sometimes 😂 The first person I ever heard say ,"Stones of Crows" is Phil. I don't know what that means but it's funny as shit.
He was born in Oxford (1950), but grew up in Westcombe in neighboring Wiltshire. His accent is generally referred to as "west country" and is probably truer to what Shakespeare heard and spoke than standard BBC-speak. "Stone the crows" is an exclamation of incredulity or annoyance.
@Everywhere2 The Elizabethan pronunciation was a a bit more different from the English of today than that. Not that you couldn't get used to it after a while, but most would have a great deal of trouble understanding at first, even Phil.
Phil amazes me he looks such an ordinary chap and yet in his head lies a brilliant mind. I look forward to seeing the results of his trenches and the comments he makes about it. What I really like is when he is annoyed at someone he just looks at them expressionless with steel in his eyes. You can see that his life is archaeology. One day he should be buried with a trowel in his hand.
The phrase is actually "Stone the crows" - I have no idea what its origin is, but it basically means "wow!" or "I can't believe it!" It's a bit old-fashioned, but still relatively frequently used :P
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I especially love this episode because they are excavating a castle where my ancestors lived and died. My 23rd great grandfather was Peter de Montfort, to which they are researching and discussing at 18:18 in this video.
Oh, goodness! Your heart must be full. That's wonderful. Cheers
Neat!!! I would enjoy that so!
Even I got excited for t's when I registered! 🇬🇧
(... and I never post a British Flag! never, 1st, you'll see below)
They could come to the USA and do my GG X 6 Lynch, founder of Lynchburg, VA
Appx 1770, pre American Revolution 1776, our Independence from King George and England.
That makes me DAR, "Daughters of the American Revolution", a prestigious affiliation here in the USA, and *rare for one of Irish lineage.*
The other side is 3rd Generation County Kerry Ireland (Murphy and Sullivan) I'm really partial to that side, but they're all gone from the immediate family. Mother was a only child.
Really know you must be thrilled to have this on film.
Best Wellbeing,
Beth, aka (Mary Beth, lol) 🍀
Tennessee, USA
Slainte!
Restore it !!! Remove the dirt to reveal the stone work as it would have been.
So wonderful for you!!! So exciting!
Beric is always a great sight to see in any episode I’ve seen him in. He is so knowledgeable with architecture of castles and buildings. RIP to him.
When I'm feeling a bit low, I watch another episode of Time Team--that always raises my spirits and piques my curiosity. I used to teach Medieval literature--and I'm so excited to think about those times from the perspective of the people who lived on the top of that hill. Thank you
A lot of people take Tonys' antics and perceived impatience way to seriously. His job as show host is to provide a link between the academics and the lay-person. His 'impatient questions' are a tool to get the person to further explain what is going on and *gasp* why they are doing it! They are a way to move onto another subject or to keep the conversation going and the information flowing. Please, cut the guy a little bit of slack and see him for what he is; A link between the archeology and the viewing public. ;^)
Well said. As someone who watched the original broadcasts I don't get the hostility. People who complain about Tony Robinson are perhaps unaware that he was also the creator and catalyst behind Time Team, and for years previous had done a lot of historical themed television.
Seconded, Les.
The comments on the videos of the first 2-3 series are quite critical of Tony's mannerisms - too enthusiastic, too many questions etc. But as a kids, we'd watch one episode a week and 1 series a year. Now we're watching 1 series a weekend. Maybe that's a reason, a Tony overdose??
It also adds entertainment and character to the program, I rather enjoy his exasperation, very humorous and his cohorts seem to take it in stride.
Look, it's 'too seriously' TOO, TOO, TOO.
Oh, you’ve got to love Tony. He really brings it all together.
The real treasure is the time team crew. Top to bottom so many brilliant people.
There should've been a soft drink marketed to go along with this show.
Drink
Time Team's Geofizz!
You'll dig it!
🤔😂😂I'd drink it!
Love it.
GeoFizz, now available in:
Georgian Grape?
Roman Root Beer?
Offa's Orange?
Cornwall Cola?
Medieval Mist?
Digger Diet?
I'm Done. :)
Invent a cocktail ;)
Nice
Test markets all said it tasted like dirt.
Here in the states, we just recently discovered Time Team. My husband and I are working through the episodes. Thank you for posting the shows for those of us who never got to see Time Team when originally broadcast. What a treasure! And as for Tony Robinson; he is a delight!
kathy4836 Hello from across the pond. Before Time Team began, there was a preliminary series of perhaps 4 episodes with Mick Aston as a central figure....might have been set in Dartmoor. Anyway a bit of googling will reveal it , and it's on RUclips ....really good.
It was called Time Signs :)
@@californiadreamin8423 I have Just finished watching it. It's on youtube in all its splendour
@kathy4856 can I recommend Tony Robinson tracking the real Robin Hood if you're a Tony fan. He also did one on tracking the 'real' Da Vinci code both of these on youtube both I've seen recently. Enjoy
Tiger Lilly Pleased to hear that. It is an excellent short series.
Tonys earlier work is very interesting too. He is most well known for his study of medieval peasantry, but I highly recommend his investigations of the odd inhabitants of boffs island and the english garden of someone called 'fat tulip'
I just love Phil's good natured energy. What an informative and enjoyable show
I've seen the new team and hosts. They don't have the verve and interest that this bunch does. The program is much less interesting. They're just--absently serious about everything. You don't learn as much.
Binge watching is always a bit unhealthy. But in this case, I'm starting to hear Phil saying "Oh, ar!" in my sleep!
Sarah Leonard I'm hearing if you like in my sleep,,lol
LOL
Ar!!!
"Stone of crows!'
I hear Mick proclaiming “strewth!” In my dreams, and I wake up laughing!
Good on Tony for pointing out it was Barney's perseverance that led to finding that pretty mortar. That moment also shows Tony's true love of archeology in the reverential way he held the piece.
What's so interesting about this series is, there's always something more to learn. Thanks TT!
Classic Time Team...digging busily at a mystery until the pieces fit together...various experts showcasing their excellent talents....camaraderie and professionalism.
A piece of tile with a dog's paw print must be one of the coolest finds ever.
I thought on an earlier program they found a piece of tile with a cat's footprint on it too.
Phil always has splendid rubble! Such an optimist!
- binge watching - again...
You say that like it's a bad thing. 😊😊
I'm a Primitive Archery fan- what a beautiful Longbow, and, even better, EXCELLENT form on the gentleman shooting the Chainmail Pig. Too bad Yew trees aren't a "thing" here in the States- I need a Welsh Longbow to complete my "Primitive Battery": a Mongolian Recurve, a Japanese Yumi and a mid 70's Bear recurve. I have been binge-watching TT...loving this!!
"Ahh, but it's absolutely splendid rubble!"
Almost a British "Yogi-ism"!
Had I watched this amazing program in JR. High I would have passed more tests.
The English may not like Americans per say but The Brits I've met and seen on TV and such seem to be very likeable chaps. I do enjoy their programs . Such as Top Gear , Doctor WHo and Time Team. They do it without all the cursing , name calling and temper tantrums and are quit entertaining.
* quite
And they do it all with out fake lashes and a pound of botox.
As an Englishman I’d like to say we love our American brothers and sisters.
Oh there's plenty of great swearing on tv. Just after the watershed at 9pm none of that silly beeping nonsense but not in documentaries. I can't imagine Mick saying "oi Phil you West country bastard what the fuck have you got in your cunting trench"😂😂😂
Jeremy Clarkson HATES Americans, misses no opportunity to voice his prejudices.
He recently invited a Chinook onto his farm for RAF training.....an American invented the Chinook, what is he thinking 😱
Whether it is Top Gear or this show, the Brits have a great way of combining these oddball characters. Most American telelvision is banal (see any reality show) But I have been watching one of these episodes each night. Hilarious and informative. Makes me want to carry around a shovel and trowell (PS. I live in Colorado. A long way away from the British Isles).
Dude..I'm a half-breed Mohawk from the Northwoods of Maine..I love this program...ps..check out "Black Adder", see if you recognize anyone...
I'm from Western, Pa - near Pittsburgh. I agree with you about American TV.
There's probably some interesting archaeology where you are, though it may not be as spectacular as a castle.
Justin Chipman in the USA, none of these people are good looking enough to get on tv, or it would be very rare. It’s what I’ve always appreciated about TV from the U.K., they use relatable people not just those that one the luck of the draw with DNA.
Justin Chipman Pennsylvania has some ripping archeology, watch Your Inner Fish for examples thereof.
I treasure this show! I love the way Tony's interest is equal to the audience .. at least mine!
Not going to lie, the moment Tony mentioned one of the most rebellious barons in England I immediately thought of Simon de Montfort..
The longbow is a thing of beauty.
Phil going 'iggledy piggledy is the ASMR I didn't know I needed today
The HUN Bow was also excellent and needed less pull to use. As the Romans found out and others.
Victors art work is excellent, would be nice to have a On Line Store to purchase.
Victor Ambrus and Mick Aston released a book titled "Recreating the Past" which has many of his drawings. There are a few other books he realeased as well.
Its rare to see phil in any kind of pants. Hes always in his shorts..... I could binge watch these guys all day every day
Phil wore long pants on the dogs they did in winter. Personally, I prefer the shorts!
Sorry about the typo. Digs.
That bow vs crossbow contest was utter rot. A bow took years to learn and decades to master. The crossbow on the other hand can be picked up and shot accurately by just about any one strong enough to span it. It's not about speed in shooting the weapon but how long it took to learn to use it accurately. The crossbow made it possible for a peon to pick up a weapon and kill the lords and their knights.
Other way round. The contest was crap because the Crossbow used was poorly made with a low draw-weight, probably by an amateur given it was the early 2000s. You're correct that the crossbow can be picked up and used easily, but you're over-estimating how hard it is to train longbow, the English in particular were obligated by law to practice Longbow every Sunday, that included the peasants. You're also overlooking that cost and maintenance also come into play. Crossbows are more mechanically complicated to make and maintain than a Longbow. Parts of them are steel, meaning you have to worry about rust, the strings are far more prone to shrinking and loosening factoring in weather conditions. They aren't peasant weapons. They're expensive mechanical devices even to this day. Their benefit lays in the hands of professional mercenary forces like the Genoese, with rich paymasters backing them.
A longbow will kill a knight as easily as a crossbow, at a cheaper cost. It's always faster, and often more devastating due to the length of its powerstroke, from ear to hand. The crossbow compensates for it's lacking powerstroke by mechanics and a string that's under far greater tension, but in turn that string needs yet another piece of complex steel machinery to even prime it. The more powerful the crossbow, the longer it takes to shoot, to the point where you're probably going to be using two, with a retainer doing the heavy lifting of the reload to maintain a decent rate of shot. That's double the cost of something that was already more expensive, plus the cost of paying the other man to load/reload.
About the only real benefit the crossbow has, aside from ease of training, is the ability to always have a shot readied because the nut locks the string in place until the trigger arm is squeezed.
@@RagPlaysGames All your points are correct. The crossbow was anything but a peasant's weapon, and the homemade, hand-spanned model used in the video would be far too weak to inflict serious wounds on a soldier.
Sadly, Beric Morlay has also passed on! I loved watching him. He was informative!
Oh no :( Rest in peace, Beric.
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How many people have passed away on this show? Mick, Beric, and who else. That's a lot of knowledge that goes with them.
But they had a lovely time while they were here, and did what they loved. That's what's important.
@@Hurricaneintheroom Another guy died during filming, I think it was the end of season 11 or 12
That American is Joe Hardy, founder of "84 Lumber" and 97 yrs old in 2020! His daughter now runs the company, but old Joe was interested in just about everything and he had the money to follow his interests.
The crossbow was mainly used inside the castles from the slits. The castle defenses gave the cover for the time needed to reload the bow. In the hands of a good archer they were ultimately more accurate that the longbow but they took much more time to reload.They were the equivalent of an assassins rifle. The crossbow shown on the footage was actually quite small. A lot of the original crossbows were much bigger.
The longbow on the other hand was very powerful and shot straight at a target they could inflict an incredible amount of damage. Having done archery myself I know that to be able to set up and shoot this strength bow you needed to have very strong arms and necks. The image shown in movies of thin and weak archers is rubbish. They were heavily built and I am sure that they carried swords as well because faced with hand to hand combat their strength would not only show them to be good archers but also good soldiers.
You use shoulder muscles when you shoot a bow it's called back tension when you bring your shoulder blades together you don't really need that much arm strength, yes I've done archery.
I tried archery (was taken to an archery club last year) and I struggled to draw the modern bows so much! The longbow, on the other hand, was great, I could actually aim and not get slapped with the string. I didn't know my neck would ache so long afterwards, so I see what you mean about archers being strongly built.
@@kelest4215 the bow was probably at the wrong pound for (the amount of weight you pull back, and if it was a compound they can be difficult at the start) you. When you use a bow you have roll your elbow in so you don't hit and wearing a arm gard is a good idea as well, like I said you use your shoulder more then your arms. I was shooting at a national level.
Skeletons of archers recovered from the Mary Rose were found to have enlarged bones of their left arms due to lifelong use of powerful longbows. The bows that were found within the wreck are estimated to have draw weights in the range of 100-185 pounds.
They only briefly touched on the crossbow's main advantage. It took a bowman years of practice to build up the required strength to accurately shoot a 150 pound bow. It was almost a profession in itself. You could develop a decent crossbow archer in a week or two. So your everyday farmer or townsman could become deadly in between their busy seasons and still make a significant contribution in times of conflict. It's almost the difference between a career soldier and a militiaman.
Victor!! That drawing near the end was great!
beautiful drawings just beautifull xx
9:41 Nice catch Blinkhorn!
I love the word Mankey. 😂
This was a good episode! I live right next to the remains of a castle, and never thought of where the stones came from or where they went. I have my suspicions, but can't prove it :(
Who ya gonna' call? Time Team!
I don't live very far away, and I always wondered why the area was called Beaudesert. Now I know!
Your neighbor, excuse me, neighbour.
If it was owned by "one of the most rebellious Barons in the country", I guess we shouldn't be too surprised that it completely "disappeared".
lol true!
"It all came to a shuddering halt in 1245"...what a great show.
Looking at the CIPM (1413-1485), we see: pg11, 1415, Sir William Beauchamp, "Beaudesert castle and manor..."; pg 364, 1473, Sir Ralph Boteler, "Beaudesert manor..."; pg 365, 1474, Alice Lovel [Sir Ralph's widow], "Beaudesert manor...". So, no mention of a castle by 1473, and the last mention is in 1415. It looks like the castle declined between 1415 and 1473 then. Given Sir Ralph was focussed on rebuilding Sudeley Castle in 1442+, perhaps he robbed Beaudesert to help build it?
Of all the shows I've watched this has got to be the most people milling about on site.
“License To Crenellate” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like the name of a Medieval metal band.
I hope they wore seatbelts in that chopper. Giving me anxiety 😟
That's how they get new cast members when the others forget,about sharp tilting turns 😊
The battle of Evesham which is mentioned here wasn't really a battle, it was more of an attack on an army's baggage train and it's unprepared escort, with resulting slaughter. To quote a chronicle of the time; "and thus was the murder of Evesham, for battle it was not."
Most of the humbler folk from the past would probably think archeologists were all daft. They must have thought it very funny that we could get so excited to find their broken rubbish and pig’s jaws.
The higher status individuals might have said, “well, of course! How could anyone fail to be interested in our lives?”
Speculation and conjecture, to be sure. And sweeping generalizations. So don’t come down on me. Just having fun.
What's really funny no offense you didn't think they'd think your own rubishes importance. 😊
Be nice to visit one day. The countryside anyway.
At fifteen I used to love Archery, and my bow a 35 pound draw on it. O Ya, no remote control, no microwave, no color TV and we had money, no cell phone of course. Lets see that must have been 1971.
So we shot things out of anger and want....
A 69 baby.....😅
Thanks so much for posting!
Did you notice the camera guy hanging out of the front seat of the helicopter? I never considered how they got the shots of the passengers before. Scary, but I'm sure he/she was buckled in. Or perhaps the pilot had he or she by the belt?
Props to the fellow Nigel with the Crossbow for making his 2nd appearance on TT..
Paul Blinkhorn with...um...hair?
Gorgeous lol Loving reminiscing with these earlier episodes
Lol. That's what I call archeology ... uncovering Paul's hair lol. He's gorgeous indeed.
OMG it's Blinky!!!!!
I have always been curious as to what happens to the buildings above ground. Do the locals carry them off for their garden walls?
Basically yes, but not so much garden walls as buildings.
So was Phil correct in the wall direction or was the other guy? Don't recall getting the final say on that.
According to the best records available the Yew Longbow took many years to master properly and a good bowman could loose 10 to 12 arrows a minute because of the time and strength needed to bend the bow which was usually around the 150 lb pull, while the training to use a crossbow was only a few weeks. To keep a good supply of bowman required permanently employed bowman and was expensive while anyone could called up and taught to use the crossbow. Also the yew longbow had a greater range.
Which was more lethal?
Males were also compelled to practice, shoot at the butes, butts? From what 12-14 to 60 years of age?
Although I don't think there'd be many ancient sixty year olds back then pulling on a string.
@@eboracum2012 That was only true for a few hundred years around the 13th to 16th centuries. Even then it was and order directed at the families who worked for themselves and the soldiers of the peers.
... when Mick and Phil start discussing anything serious they revert to a simpler dialect ... Cheers
That compition, longbow versus crossbow was wonky. Thats like comparing a sniper rifle with a machine gun. You know who will win before they even start.
If you are talking rate of fire, the long bow wins. If you are referring to penetration the crossbow wins. Depends on the armor of your opponent. The Romans had a variety of crossbows, lost tech in England for centuries.
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Tell me about it, have only handeled the originals but you seem an expert...............
Tiberiotertio If you were going for sarcasm next time spell check. Otherwise you just look stupid.
Tiberiotertio Peasant.
2l84t
Yeah I thought so, thanks for the confirmation.
The Montfords of Beaudesert, as well indeed, as Sir Piers (Peter) de Montfort I, Lord of Beaudesert, ( b. Circa 1215 ), are some of my long-ago ancestors. Fascinating stuff this! Archaeology is a passion!
+Gina Lynn - Mine too. Both Thurston deMontefort and Roger de Warwick (aka Roger de Beaumont) and their assorted family members. Fun to see what my ancestors were up to and where they lived.
Elspeth Graham I know this is a very old comment, but I just recently delved into my wife’s genealogy as well as Time Team for the first time, and she too is descended from Roger de Beaumont. So hi cousin-in-law! :)
"Most Medieval archers used bows made from you." I have a couple of issues with this: how/when do they intend to get hold of me? And, though I appreciate their admiration of my attributes, why me specifically?
Just for those who don't understand the joke the bows were often made of the wood of the _yew_ tree.
Hah!
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Time Team should be required!
Does anyone know what the music is that's played at the end of the vid is (from about 45:00) and where I can get hold of it?
Thank you!
Being an archer myself it's great to see bowmaking. Those english longbowmen were famous. And indeed, nowadays most longbow male archers don't pull more than 50-60pounds. Ob very rare occasions someone pulls 80.
A 180 pound pull, amazing!! If the bowman didn't kill you with an arrow he'd put a fist through your head.
As the late, great Sir Terry Pratchett said "from the point of view of a sharp arrow, chainmail is simply a collection of loosely connected holes"
32.40..Phil...the $64,000 question....interesting American expression. It is a small world.
Interesting name . 1950 Kentucky. Same here. about 40 miles down river of Louisville. Or looavull as we say.
Worldwide scandal!
I lived in Belgium in the 70s… all the popular American tv shows were aired on the Flemish and French channels. Belgium had sub-titles with original English audio. Germany and France tv dubbed over in their native languages.
Thanks for the uploads but man last couple seasons the voice is off midway through the video
.mms mmm MLK k bbm. Jill mmm
...focus on the rocks... or Phil's hair
It is a sad story. A beautiful castle left to fall down or be brought down & sold for it's stones. People lived there, died, fought for others, and this is what is left to show that anyone had ever been there.
I think it was the saddest for the "lowborn" who had a hard life under the rule of the moneyed class. Hmmm, makes me sound like a communist, doesn't it ? :o)
*Leslie Lang*
You have defined what archæology is _for._
The line died out.
That arrow would certainly get your attention!
Robbing disused structures is now known as recycling.
Paul Blinkhorn has a perfect voice for ASMR.
Very enjoyable... though the crossbow/ longbow competition was obviously ridiculous! (A crossbow that is cocked with that much ease is hardly worth anything as soon as the defender wears more than a sweatshirt - the advantage of the thing being exactly what the cb bloke said: "being able to shoot from any position" .... making ready behind a huge shield (carried by the second guy) and then shooting without exposing a lot of the body.
I love robin but i havent really had any success finding more from him unrelated to time team. Anyone know if there is any lectures, interviews or books involving him?
there's some info on Wikipedia.
Seems the locals, for over 900 years, have not been too curious. Robbers of old 800 yrs ago made off and left the heavy stuff. Is a medieval painted tile worth much?
How do you pull back a bow effectively with a pull of up to 180 pounds on it ??? Ancient bowmen must have been real brutes !
Remember that there were no machines to do the work back then. Everything was done by muscle power and people were doing hard physical work from childhood, so they were stronger than we are now.
By constantly training and building your muscles to overcome the tension of the bow. When they found Henry the VIII’s warship, the Mary Rose, they were able to identified the bones of the longbow men by the flattened ulna and radius of the forearm. The flattening resulted from the tension of the bow over years in the butts practicing.
Author Bernard Cornwell writes wonderful series on medieval life and warfare, highly recommended.
Why are so many episodes out of synch with audio
Not the video you're getting older😊
Is it possible to correct the lag between audio and visual please?
Ann bretagne It’s not that bad.
Wouldn't that make it an 'unscheduled monument'?
Egldy pigledy! Phil says!
How is this content monetized with commercials?
Lesson I took from this always choose the long bow over a crossbow
Where did the Brits get all the "unique names"? (see title)
Booze😊
So, does anyone know if the guy from the US was allowed to build on the site? Has it been restored? Just curious...
Looked for it on Google Maps....apparently not! Too bad...
Donna Perez I googled too. No reference to him anywhere in relation to a castle. The guy is now in his nineties. I don't think he will do anything. I don't know why. Probably the view of the castle was a bit disappointing (not resembling the castle in Disneyland?). Furthermore he would neve have gotten permission anyway. If you like newbuilt castle, go to Elzass region in France where the German emperor built a exact copy of a huge medeaval castle with everything in it in the 19th century. Splendid stuff.
+Donna Perez I think we should be grateful that nothing has been built on this site.
I thought the idea in rather bad taste, though I'm sure his heart was in the right place. In order to build a replica they would endanger the actual remains underneath. There's no way it could be done. In most other cases of similar types, some of the castle was still standing, enough so that it could be called restoring, but with a clear distinction made between the modern restoration and the actual old building. That is if you have respect for historical authenticity. I would also assume that if you bought a scheduled property privately, that the legal limits as to what you may or may not do with that property are made absolutely clear.
I think most of us have had a "Wouldn't it be nice to..." moment and fairly shortly reconsidered! Wouldn't make any difference in this case - permission would never have been forthcoming.
If you would like to see fortifications that have been substantially reconstructed, as opposed to conservation and stabilisation, visit Pembroke castle and see how you feel about the reconstructed bits of the curtain wall. Kids love racing through it, but...
When they were talking about that fellow wanting to rebuild the castle I could relate. I watch alot of these and other shows about ancient buildings I always wonder what it would cost to actually rebuild those. I know they're taking a stab at it with the Parthenon. It must run in the quillions. I wouldn't even begin to know who to ask...
Hiffinhoffin I don‘t know wether you‘re interested in Roman stuff, but there‘s a town called „Carnuntum“ in Austria, where they are excavating and rebuilding(in part) a typical Roman town.
What is Robin’s background? Is he a historian or a genealogist or a document specialist or what?
Researcher, historian, speaker of OLD English, archivist. I wish I was him.
Baron Thurstan de Montfort born in the year 1125, is in my family tree, I have traced it all the way back to Thurston De Montfort in the year 0947. If you like I can give you the information I have.
Lol by that far back they are so distantly related its irrelevant
Pretty sloppy that they spelled Beric Morley's name wrong (as 'Morlay')
Excellent!
There goes Phil again saying words or sayings that make no sense.
What does Goo daaa mean?
South west England accent... it means, "God. Yes."
He's saying oooohhh, aahhh or eeerrrr.
Exclamation of surprise or agreement. I think.
Philisms. 😊
You wouldnt crenelate a wall and have no battlements behind it.
Its either a design feature to look nice or a defensive feature, no battlements means its not defensive and it while beautiful at the time there was a need to be defensive.
The fine looking stone was not "moulded" Tony, it was "carved"! Plaster can be moulded but not stone.
I can't believe the size of the crowds of locals gathered . Don't they have things to do ? The fascination with ancient ruins of property once owned by some powerful ogre escapes me .
shnops It escapes me why you would be watching a show about archeology then... Meanwhile, the rest of us remain fascinated with each episode.
Many people have an interest in the history of their locality or country, others do not. There's always the kartrashians and others of their ilk for those who prefer that sort of thing.
Go away shnops, find something else to watch.
i have never understood why people went to all the effort to destroy these buildings ? I can only assume that the owners were hated or were politically out of favor. Did Cromwell destroy them all ?
Free stone to use I'd guess motivated them 😊
Well cut stone? Expensive! Pinch it from the nearest abandoned manor/castle, slap up your new church. Or new manor, town hall...
sound and video is out of sync, whose been meddling with time team?
I think the big thing with the crossbow is you don't need years of training to use it. Anyone can. SO while a few hundred longbowmen are better individually, a few thousands peasants with crossbows will win.
Change the numbers an it's the same right.
Notice cross bow never took over the feild,it's style of firing did as you say
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18:08 what the hell was that
They spoke about the cost of a dig how much does a general digger get paid 😊
First aired March 17, 2002.
Very interesting historical commentary on 21st great-grandfather, Peter (Piers) de Montfort. Have to go take a look at the place someday.
Robin Bush could make reading a phonebook a treat ! What a golden throated devil !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love it when he reads Saxon poetry it's gorgeous
Tony and Robin mispronounced the name of the village. Apparently the locals call Beaudesert "Belzer," like the actor Richard.
So should we care or they cannot spell.
Or respect them making something up by themselves?😊
Do you blokes ever Lidar a location before you dig?
What part of England or the UK is Phil from? His accent cracks me up. It sounds like he has little Irish twang in his voice sometimes 😂
The first person I ever heard say ,"Stones of Crows" is Phil. I don't know what that means but it's funny as shit.
He was born in Oxford (1950), but grew up in Westcombe in neighboring Wiltshire. His accent is generally referred to as "west country" and is probably truer to what Shakespeare heard and spoke than standard BBC-speak. "Stone the crows" is an exclamation of incredulity or annoyance.
@Everywhere2 The Elizabethan pronunciation was a a bit more different from the English of today than that. Not that you couldn't get used to it after a while, but most would have a great deal of trouble understanding at first, even Phil.
Phil amazes me he looks such an ordinary chap and yet in his head lies a brilliant mind. I look forward to seeing the results of his trenches and the comments he makes about it. What I really like is when he is annoyed at someone he just looks at them expressionless with steel in his eyes. You can see that his life is archaeology. One day he should be buried with a trowel in his hand.
Ltrain44 Phil: Strewth! I’ve had dreams in which he says that, and I love it!
The phrase is actually "Stone the crows" - I have no idea what its origin is, but it basically means "wow!" or "I can't believe it!" It's a bit old-fashioned, but still relatively frequently used :P
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