Karen Witter is exactly the Tina that they needed. The writing/storyline and her performance came together nicely. Great chemistry with both Johnny and Cord. She was in such deep trouble, yet you wanted to root for her!!
If I were Cord I think I would have caught on by now. I don't like how dumb they make pepole on these sometimes, like easily duped or something. On another note, thank you again for uploading these! I have looked into the future in terms of these videos and am anxious to see how this plays out.
Sometimes they have to dumb characters down, make them act out of character, in order to move the overall story along... the writers are flying by the seat of their pants... it's not Mad Men, LOL! :)
@@dpodsful Very true! Thanks for the reply. It just irritates me as Cord, especially, seems so dumb most of the time when it comes to what Tina is saying !!
Actually it is quite stunning how poor Tina’s judgement is along with her inability to critically think. Cord shouldn’t marry her; he should file for conservatorship over her….
Yew did that well deserved perk already start ? I remember the first time I noticed it was around 98. B/c they would tape 3 weeks early she always seemed to be back & well tan by around early Sept. In 98 I remember her doing that whole hostage story at the lodge which ended around June. Todd was obviously indicted on like 150 years of prison for taking 15 people hostage plus having a large knife & even though the dynamite was fake the fear it caused was still real. Anyway I remember tea threw him an " unbirthday party " around late July & viki told Todd she had to go to a " symposium in Japan for all publishers of every paper globally " & took her month vacation & was back in time for Todd's trial in Sept. Or so. Then when i started watching different years & going forward she always seemed to leave for a conference for the paper. When she did that huge d i.d story which must have been exhausting not to mention very long for a soap as a criticism of Malone was his stories went on too long no matter how good they were i.e. Max's gambling addiction started literally in late Jan 94 & went til like Sept. I thought it was fine but obviously fans & the show wanted it wrapped up so it became a mess as max was suddenly cured when Luna got hit by Blairs truck by accident. I was actually really interested in seeing max going to the gamblers anonymous meetings. He went to one where he basically trashed everyone in the room as a bunch of losers & whiners who couldn't admit they just loved the rush instead of looking for other reasons. Then he almost went to gamble again & cords role for the whole year basically was stalking max & trying to put max & luna back together. I mean u can be a friend but cord went too far with it. I loved the intervention scene & it was great how cord set it up but he was becoming too much showing up in atl city telling Luna then showing up in Texas locking Blair up so max & luna could bond which backfired as max again did something so despicable he sent 8 year old al off to a rodeo all alone in some other state where they actually showed some creepers watching him then luna saw al told max she was disgusted al went off about hating max ( which I get ) then Blair bashed cord over the head as she obsessively drove to the fair where all converged as Luna chased al & got hit by Blair. Cord at some point long before needed to just stay out of it. He had already done quite enough he got Asa to ban max from the wild rose he did the intervention after that cord needed to then exit stage left. That's the point of an intervention u tell the person unless they get help they are done. He Renee & luna all said their peace said what they'd take away the money the stocks the bonds deeds etc as they all were investors of serenity springs. Anyway Malone was a novelist so I thought it worked really well on a soap but people want arcs that end & do go on to something related but this one didn't. Which I thought worked as addiction in real life isn't wrapped up in 3 to 5 months. Plus they went so far to show pretty realistically how far max had fallen the next arc should have been showing a real recovery. Not max at one meeting trashing everyone else who was getting help then him too easily getting luna back. Then she got pregnant w/ the twins died & the twins pretty much were rarely seen then never seen ever again. Sadly this was cords last real story. Cause it weirdly led to him & Blair. I say weirdly as he went in hard on Blair about what a hooker trash bag she was. Suddenly he's poaching Blair while max the hypocritical cheater w/ luna the now doormat are bashing Blair while cords listening. What a mess. Cord was only used as a spoiler anyway for the obvious eventual pairing of todd & Blair. Blair dated cord literally for a few months fought w/ him the entire time & yet she was still mooning over cord like 5 months later while she was pregnant w/ Todd's son. U always knew Blair loved Todd & how safe for the cord character that he had to be the one to point it out to Blair. That sadly was cord Robert's last real storyline. Him & tina had some nice closure about their whole relationship in 96 she left w/ the kids to Maryland & cord had nothing to do other than jump to working at BE & that dumb forgettable storyline of him & Joey into that cameron/Olivia. Anyway having said all that lol. Back to viki. In 95 it seemed after all that seriously draining work playing 7 people she seemed to have about 2 big vacations. Maybe b/c of the story & it going so long they moved her Aug. Vacation? I recall when she finally got stopped & all alters were revealed in the crypt & she wound up arrested as Tommy in some crummy little town she was sent off to Switzerland for awhile. That may have been her August break cause she was gone awhile. I remember her returning to llainview when Jesse begged her to come home to her. Poor viki I felt so sorry for her as she was back to being viki still didn't know about the abuse but was almost catatonic as her shrink said " she is profoundly depressed " from all the the damage she had done & knowing she had a lot more alters than just Nikki now. So viki did return around October to do the therapy w/ Nora's sister. I'll never know how she wasn't facing tons of charges like arson at llainfair. I'm pretty sure even if it's ur own home u still can't burn it down purposely. Esp given the danger it could have done to others & it did almost kill Jessica who she didn't know came home early.
@@LisaHouserman I had stopped watching by then, but I saw snippets online when Krista Tersrau played Tina and I think it was when Viki had a bad flu, Tina was involved in the decision making progress regarding Viki's health.
I agree! Tina is vikis only known blood sibling. They made a truce in 87 & have been close since. She s also known viki b4 she ever met Clint as Irene made viki Tina's guardian when she was still an underage teen while viki was married to Joe & tina moved in when viki only had baby Kevin. Megan is her eldest child & only full blown adult child. They should be making the decisions as much as Clint. Larry her oldest & dearest friend who's also a Dr recommends the rehab. Not that Asa bo & Renee should be the end all & be all but tina & megan absolutely should be included in the decisions for their blood relative that both love her & want what's best. I love Jake he's the most down to earth guy. When megan was immediately agreeing w/ Clint over Sarah & the others I'm glad he said she needed to wait to make an informed decision once she got to the hospital. Did I mention I love Jake & megan ? Lol. Also I know paper beats blood in terms of a spouse but spousee can be fleeting as we know viki dumps Clint in a couple years. An interesting fact I learned recently is more & more people have their children siblings or a parent as their health care proxy over their spouse. I actually thought that was interesting but maybe it is b/c a spouse might not be doing what's in the best interest of the other spouse esp given the divorce rate. Their are scenarios wherefa spouse might have their own agenda if they aren't willing to keep a spouse on life support a feeding tube or even want them in a nursing home when a family member actually is willing & wants to take care of their loved one over the spouse. Sadly this happens a lot. What if a marriage is on very shaky ground & an emergency comes up where the family wants to do right by the loved one more than the spouse? Anyway u get a bull headed guy like Clint who even after viki divorced & remarried was trying hard to get viki back & when she was on a dinner date in a friendly manner w/ that creep Sam I recall Clint getting all huffy b/c he was courting viki again who made it clear she only wanted to take things as they came. When Clint saw viki at dinner w/ Sam he went off like she was cheating on him humiliating viki cause he was eating alone at that same restaurant. I'm glad viki told him they were no longer married for many years that they were not even exclusively dating & she or he could be on a date w/ whomever they wanted. I felt sorry for Clint on one hand b/c he clearly was desperately wanting to be w/ viki who as I said had cheated divorced him 6 yrs b4 & married another man who died. Yes Clint was wonderful to viki when sloan passed & amazing for her when she fractured into 7 alters & was by her side through it all. They did still share kids including then underage Jesse & they still were working together amazingly which def still had them connected through family & work. Clint honestly though needed to move on.
I'm only 25 min in but I must comment. Oh Clint listen to the experts. If theirs a better rehab facility in Seattle why not send her. Cause u don't want to have to stay in Seattle while she's recovering? Ugh. I really liked the Brenda max scene & listening to Brenda talking about how she's willing to lose 5 million bucks just b/c Dan is having a temoer tantrum that's so illogical is beyond reason. Max who used to own that hotel b4 Micheal knows best like the buisness experts that it's worth 15 not 10 million. Of course the Corppration that wants to buy it is low balling her. Hello thats how all negotiations start. Usually the owner of anything marks it up knowing the buyer will negotiate a lower price. I mean good lord Dan's reasoning that Brenda should take a huge low ball offer b/c " oh now ur miss buisbess woman " um what ??? She's sharing the $$ w/ him. Her $$ is getting his clinic off the ground & Brenda is putting it into the community. Dan is really a jerk & he's way too immature for Brenda. I didn't love the age difference but whatever as long ad Dan's legal age is not a factor if it works plus Dan is probably supposed to be in his mid 20s to be a doctor already. Even though the actor is 19/20 I assume he's supposed to be older. I think he's shown what a disloyal creep he is by poaching then full blown dating his own dad's ex fiancee. Was their even a scene of Larry & Dan having it out over this cause how do u do that to ur own father. I know it's a soap but it's still gross & I always loath it when I see brothers marrying the same woman as well as a father & son over a womant It's plain gross soap or not.
Karen Witter is exactly the Tina that they needed. The writing/storyline and her performance came together nicely. Great chemistry with both Johnny and Cord. She was in such deep trouble, yet you wanted to root for her!!
I honestly don’t have as much memory of the previous Tina no offence. But I think this actress did a good job as we.
I don’t think we had Jake an Megan long enough.
If I were Cord I think I would have caught on by now. I don't like how dumb they make pepole on these sometimes, like easily duped or something. On another note, thank you again for uploading these! I have looked into the future in terms of these videos and am anxious to see how this plays out.
Sometimes they have to dumb characters down, make them act out of character, in order to move the overall story along... the writers are flying by the seat of their pants... it's not Mad Men, LOL! :)
@@dpodsful Very true! Thanks for the reply. It just irritates me as Cord, especially, seems so dumb most of the time when it comes to what Tina is saying !!
Actually it is quite stunning how poor Tina’s judgement is along with her inability to critically think. Cord shouldn’t marry her; he should file for conservatorship over her….
Good one!! That is a wonderful idea!@@nikkiela
Isn't August usually when Erika Slezak took her 8 week vacation? Will she really be gone until October?
She usually only took 4 weeks. She usually left at the end of August and came back early October. She'll probably be back in 4 weeks.
Yew did that well deserved perk already start ? I remember the first time I noticed it was around 98. B/c they would tape 3 weeks early she always seemed to be back & well tan by around early Sept. In 98 I remember her doing that whole hostage story at the lodge which ended around June. Todd was obviously indicted on like 150 years of prison for taking 15 people hostage plus having a large knife & even though the dynamite was fake the fear it caused was still real. Anyway I remember tea threw him an " unbirthday party " around late July & viki told Todd she had to go to a " symposium in Japan for all publishers of every paper globally " & took her month vacation & was back in time for Todd's trial in Sept. Or so. Then when i started watching different years & going forward she always seemed to leave for a conference for the paper. When she did that huge d i.d story which must have been exhausting not to mention very long for a soap as a criticism of Malone was his stories went on too long no matter how good they were i.e. Max's gambling addiction started literally in late Jan 94 & went til like Sept. I thought it was fine but obviously fans & the show wanted it wrapped up so it became a mess as max was suddenly cured when Luna got hit by Blairs truck by accident. I was actually really interested in seeing max going to the gamblers anonymous meetings. He went to one where he basically trashed everyone in the room as a bunch of losers & whiners who couldn't admit they just loved the rush instead of looking for other reasons. Then he almost went to gamble again & cords role for the whole year basically was stalking max & trying to put max & luna back together. I mean u can be a friend but cord went too far with it. I loved the intervention scene & it was great how cord set it up but he was becoming too much showing up in atl city telling Luna then showing up in Texas locking Blair up so max & luna could bond which backfired as max again did something so despicable he sent 8 year old al off to a rodeo all alone in some other state where they actually showed some creepers watching him then luna saw al told max she was disgusted al went off about hating max ( which I get ) then Blair bashed cord over the head as she obsessively drove to the fair where all converged as Luna chased al & got hit by Blair. Cord at some point long before needed to just stay out of it. He had already done quite enough he got Asa to ban max from the wild rose he did the intervention after that cord needed to then exit stage left. That's the point of an intervention u tell the person unless they get help they are done. He Renee & luna all said their peace said what they'd take away the money the stocks the bonds deeds etc as they all were investors of serenity springs. Anyway Malone was a novelist so I thought it worked really well on a soap but people want arcs that end & do go on to something related but this one didn't. Which I thought worked as addiction in real life isn't wrapped up in 3 to 5 months. Plus they went so far to show pretty realistically how far max had fallen the next arc should have been showing a real recovery. Not max at one meeting trashing everyone else who was getting help then him too easily getting luna back. Then she got pregnant w/ the twins died & the twins pretty much were rarely seen then never seen ever again. Sadly this was cords last real story. Cause it weirdly led to him & Blair. I say weirdly as he went in hard on Blair about what a hooker trash bag she was. Suddenly he's poaching Blair while max the hypocritical cheater w/ luna the now doormat are bashing Blair while cords listening. What a mess. Cord was only used as a spoiler anyway for the obvious eventual pairing of todd & Blair. Blair dated cord literally for a few months fought w/ him the entire time & yet she was still mooning over cord like 5 months later while she was pregnant w/ Todd's son. U always knew Blair loved Todd & how safe for the cord character that he had to be the one to point it out to Blair. That sadly was cord Robert's last real storyline. Him & tina had some nice closure about their whole relationship in 96 she left w/ the kids to Maryland & cord had nothing to do other than jump to working at BE & that dumb forgettable storyline of him & Joey into that cameron/Olivia.
Anyway having said all that lol. Back to viki. In 95 it seemed after all that seriously draining work playing 7 people she seemed to have about 2 big vacations. Maybe b/c of the story & it going so long they moved her Aug. Vacation? I recall when she finally got stopped & all alters were revealed in the crypt & she wound up arrested as Tommy in some crummy little town she was sent off to Switzerland for awhile. That may have been her August break cause she was gone awhile. I remember her returning to llainview when Jesse begged her to come home to her. Poor viki I felt so sorry for her as she was back to being viki still didn't know about the abuse but was almost catatonic as her shrink said " she is profoundly depressed " from all the the damage she had done & knowing she had a lot more alters than just Nikki now. So viki did return around October to do the therapy w/ Nora's sister. I'll never know how she wasn't facing tons of charges like arson at llainfair. I'm pretty sure even if it's ur own home u still can't burn it down purposely. Esp given the danger it could have done to others & it did almost kill Jessica who she didn't know came home early.
Thank you!
I love the pics the kids did and it was esp good to see how Llanfair looks!!
Shouldn't Megan and Tina be making the decision about Viki's therapy with Clint? They are her cloest adult blood relatives.
Now let's not bring logic and reality into this LMAO. But seriously, I think you are right, as is oft' the case!
@@LisaHouserman I had stopped watching by then, but I saw snippets online when Krista Tersrau played Tina and I think it was when Viki had a bad flu, Tina was involved in the decision making progress regarding Viki's health.
I agree! Tina is vikis only known blood sibling. They made a truce in 87 & have been close since. She s also known viki b4 she ever met Clint as Irene made viki Tina's guardian when she was still an underage teen while viki was married to Joe & tina moved in when viki only had baby Kevin. Megan is her eldest child & only full blown adult child. They should be making the decisions as much as Clint. Larry her oldest & dearest friend who's also a Dr recommends the rehab. Not that Asa bo & Renee should be the end all & be all but tina & megan absolutely should be included in the decisions for their blood relative that both love her & want what's best. I love Jake he's the most down to earth guy. When megan was immediately agreeing w/ Clint over Sarah & the others I'm glad he said she needed to wait to make an informed decision once she got to the hospital. Did I mention I love Jake & megan ? Lol. Also I know paper beats blood in terms of a spouse but spousee can be fleeting as we know viki dumps Clint in a couple years. An interesting fact I learned recently is more & more people have their children siblings or a parent as their health care proxy over their spouse. I actually thought that was interesting but maybe it is b/c a spouse might not be doing what's in the best interest of the other spouse esp given the divorce rate. Their are scenarios wherefa spouse might have their own agenda if they aren't willing to keep a spouse on life support a feeding tube or even want them in a nursing home when a family member actually is willing & wants to take care of their loved one over the spouse. Sadly this happens a lot. What if a marriage is on very shaky ground & an emergency comes up where the family wants to do right by the loved one more than the spouse? Anyway u get a bull headed guy like Clint who even after viki divorced & remarried was trying hard to get viki back & when she was on a dinner date in a friendly manner w/ that creep Sam I recall Clint getting all huffy b/c he was courting viki again who made it clear she only wanted to take things as they came. When Clint saw viki at dinner w/ Sam he went off like she was cheating on him humiliating viki cause he was eating alone at that same restaurant. I'm glad viki told him they were no longer married for many years that they were not even exclusively dating & she or he could be on a date w/ whomever they wanted. I felt sorry for Clint on one hand b/c he clearly was desperately wanting to be w/ viki who as I said had cheated divorced him 6 yrs b4 & married another man who died. Yes Clint was wonderful to viki when sloan passed & amazing for her when she fractured into 7 alters & was by her side through it all. They did still share kids including then underage Jesse & they still were working together amazingly which def still had them connected through family & work. Clint honestly though needed to move on.
Sarah is gone very soon. Hated her exit!!
She and Megan are kidnapped before they leave the hospital
Yeah, her replacement was dull and short lived. Another wife Bo losses to death.
That was the halftime scene Of One Life to Live. And i thought those men were gone but they came back?
I'm only 25 min in but I must comment. Oh Clint listen to the experts. If theirs a better rehab facility in Seattle why not send her. Cause u don't want to have to stay in Seattle while she's recovering? Ugh. I really liked the Brenda max scene & listening to Brenda talking about how she's willing to lose 5 million bucks just b/c Dan is having a temoer tantrum that's so illogical is beyond reason. Max who used to own that hotel b4 Micheal knows best like the buisness experts that it's worth 15 not 10 million. Of course the Corppration that wants to buy it is low balling her. Hello thats how all negotiations start. Usually the owner of anything marks it up knowing the buyer will negotiate a lower price. I mean good lord Dan's reasoning that Brenda should take a huge low ball offer b/c " oh now ur miss buisbess woman " um what ??? She's sharing the $$ w/ him. Her $$ is getting his clinic off the ground & Brenda is putting it into the community. Dan is really a jerk & he's way too immature for Brenda. I didn't love the age difference but whatever as long ad Dan's legal age is not a factor if it works plus Dan is probably supposed to be in his mid 20s to be a doctor already. Even though the actor is 19/20 I assume he's supposed to be older. I think he's shown what a disloyal creep he is by poaching then full blown dating his own dad's ex fiancee. Was their even a scene of Larry & Dan having it out over this cause how do u do that to ur own father. I know it's a soap but it's still gross & I always loath it when I see brothers marrying the same woman as well as a father & son over a womant It's plain gross soap or not.