Thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge. Very clear explanation helped me get get a grasp on how this all works. Apple should be paying you for this, no chance of that 😅
I have actually done some gigs for Apple through a 3rd party vendor. I would definitely love to work with them more closely. Thank you for the comment.
Absolutely AMAZING series your Control Surface tutorials Eddie. Have wasted so much time watching rubbish online & still not getting the answers I was looking for. But your collection of vids answers exactly what I’ve looking for re: modes, flips, index, etc. And always explained so well too. Thanks for the effort you put it mate, much appreciated 🙏 Keep ‘em coming !
dude.. I LOVE you.. I been sitting here digging for info. im setting up a midi twister fighter for plugin controls and was going crazy trying to figure out how to switch plugin controls to isolate what plugin the midi fighter controls... im gonna be switching plugins with a stream deck, then midi fighter for parameters. the midi plugin for stream deck helps a ton. wow, thank you SO much.
@@thatlogicproguy pff ha ha tell me about it!! so I actually hit a snag, maybe you can help (thought I had it working but no). trying to figure out how to map zones and modes. think I may be pushing it but you would prolly know.
Ah man this is GREEAAAAT !! I'm running a very old Logic 8 with a Novation SL MkII. I've been trying to find a way to get out of automap as it doesn't support Logic's plugins -- Logic Plugins only started to be supported from Logic 9 -- and so I haven't been able to use my controller for their parameters. With your workaround and out of automap I've assigned a bunch of Logic synths to the controller assignments window. At the push of a button I can switch between them! and tweak them with my hardware .. UUrrghh finally!! Many thanks :)
Hi. Thanks for all the useful tutorials. I need your help. Is there a way to control all parameters in Logic with a single knob? I would like to click on any controller with the mouse and change it with my one-knob controller. Is that possible? Thank you.
Wow. Thanks for these tutorials! I'm learning a lot. I'm still stuck on one major issue. I have set Controller Assignments so I can use my Moog Minitaur to control UADx Minimoog. But now all my MIDI CC mapping in other instruments (like Softube Model 80) don't work - I have to "Bypass All Control Surfaces" to use other mapping. Is there a way to have Logic's Controller Assignments just control the UADx Minimoog? I assumed I would use Zones or Modes for this but can't figure it out. Thanks for any help!
You should be able to switch modes for extra functionality. You can switch to UADx mode to control the plug and then go back to normal functionality when switching to the “catch all”mode. Hope that helps. Blessings!
Hey, as always awesome stuff. Just in case I missed it. Once I've turned my pads into seperate banks, will I no longer be able to use them for drums using drum machine designer for example, or will the pads now only be to change modes? Thanks for all this awesome info!
As I understand it, if you switch to an altogether different MODE than theoretically yes you should be able to use those unassigned pads to something else. It’s kind of a hierarchical system. Hope that helps!
@@thatlogicproguy ok thanks. So do you mean I’ll have to open assignments and manually switch the mode when I want to use my midi controller for just music creation. Sorry this is all so confusing. So I have the Akai MK3 and it’s extremely limited in regards to knobs and faders as it has no faders, which you already know. So I’m trying to setup this technique you have shown to assign my pads to banking to the pan version, or the volume version. So once I’ve assigned my pads to change the actual modes, how would I stop that function for changing modes so I can use them normally? For example, my top four pads change modes to pan, volume, and eq plugin and a compressor plugin. But I want to now go into DMD and have full functionality of all pads. How do I prevent the top four pads now changing modes?
Certainly not easy. I think you will have to create a mode change to get into “Music Making” mode. I would have to experiment but on the surface this seems the most practical
@@thatlogicproguy I think my answer may lie within the programme change function. I really want to mess about to find the solution but whenever I go to sit and mess on, I just get overwhelmed!
Question, please. Is it possible to custom assign tracks to faders across multiple banks? I have a large (>50) number of tracks/channels in a project, and I am using folder/summing stacks to hierarchically organize them. For example, I have 3 mics that blend the kick and them sum to a kick stack. The stack is Ch1, and the individual mics are on Ch2, Ch3, and Ch4. Then I have both a top and bottom snare mic that sum to a snare stack. These are on Ch5-7. This continues for the rest of the kit, and then for other instruments, well beyond ch50. I want to map my controller faders just to the summing stacks, so fader 1 would be ch1 for the kick stack, fader 2 would be ch 5 for the snare stack, etc. This seems possible within the first bank of 8 physical faders on my control surface, but what about when I bank right with a multiple of 8? Now I'm going to need physical fader 1 to map to another stack further down the virtual board, say ch 15, for example, and so on. Is it possible to do this, and what would be the approach for doing so? Disclaimer: I have zero experience with controllers, but I have just ordered an X-Touch and am hoping I will be able to do this. Thank you in advance!
You can do this but would certainly need time to set it up. I go through the core ideas in this series. I also do consultation visits for folks in the greater L.A area and over Zoom as well. Best of Luck!
@thatlogicproguy thank you! I was mostly just asking if it is possible and not specifically requesting you to dive in. I am simply relieved that it will be achievable and that I don't need to overhaul my track/channel mapping template just to accommodate limitations of the control surface interface. It would be considerably helpful to know if I need to use Modes and Zones to achieve this as opposed to simple by-fader learning in Expert View. It seems like I'm going to need a Mode for each virtual bank of 8 faders and then in Expert View I manually teach the faders for that Mode. Then instead of setting up a left/right multiplier to cycle between each virtual bank of 8 faders I have to actually switch Modes. Is that the general idea? Just looking for a yes/no here. Thank you!
Certainly possible. Just take your time and remember to save your clist in case something goes adrift. Let me know how you get along. Control Surfaces is “no man’s” land. It’s why I created this resources so folks could navigate with some concrete knowledge. If you have a specific question that I could tackle on video, let me know and I will consider putting it on my list. Please keep the questions concise. Cheers!
Hello Eddie, I have seen several videos on your channel and even subscribed, thanks for that. I would appreciate it if you could help me regarding Logic Pro. My loop browser is completely empty! I couldn't find any reference to this kind of problem on the web, forums and Apple support site. It's really frustrating. Does this problem sound familiar to you? Do you have any idea how to fix this?
Sir, be sure to REINDEX ALL LOOPS and that should get you there. (By empty, you mean grayed out yes?) Did you download all of the necessary content? Cheers!
@@thatlogicproguy thank you very much for the quick answer. I already tried REINDEX ALL LOOPS. By empty, I don't mean grayed out. i mean completely empty, there is no mention of any loop in the browser (0 iteams). What's interesting is that when I go into the sound library manager, all the sounds and loops are marked as installend. When you still try to download one of the loops, there is no sign of any download, as if the computer ignores the attempt, because as far as it is concerned, the information has already been installed. But when I look for the loops on the computer I can't find them.
Sounds like you might have relocated to an external hard drive. Is that possible? I would definitely uninstall and reinstall everything so the folder paths match. I think that’s probably the quickest way to fix . LMK
I don't know about this feature but this is my setup on AKAI Mini MK3 Automation knob is turned on so I can control all parameters in 1 knob including 3rd party plugins (Absolute on Knob 8) All knobs are absolute: Knob 1 - Playhead Bar Knob 2 - Playhead Division Knob 3 - Bus 1 Send Knob 4 - Bus 2 Send Knob 5 - Track Selection Knob 6 - Track Pan Knob 7 - Master Volume CC Bank A CC Pad 1 - Mute Track CC Pad 2 - Solo Track CC Pad 3 - Input Monitoring CC Pad 4 - Arm Record CC Pad 5 - Rewind CC Pad 6 - Stop CC Pad 7 - Play/Stop CC Pad 8 - Record CC Bank B - I haven't mapped it yet. I'll try your set up and maybe try to group my knobs above to a mode (except knob 8). So 8 cc's on bank B times 7 knobs = 45 knobs in total.
I'm still unsure about the difference between a zone and mode. My goal is to have two settings for my pads - one setting will be for drumming (which is the default) the other setting will be for triggering live loop scenes. I've tried setting it using the learn button on a new mode, but it just seems to overwrite and I can't switch between the two settings.
Zone could be thought of as the midi controller and modes as functions within those control surfaces. You are going to have trigger a mode change. I go over this in the series. Hope that helps. Cheers!
I tried doing this with an iCON Platform M+ which has motorized faders, but the faders behavior is erratic. E.g. they jump right back down to zero value.
What’s up. Be sure to watch the whole series to get an in depth look. I think if you play with the value category inside of the controller assignments window, that should help out. Specifically,look at the format and mode. Hope this helps. Good luck.
@Fistful0fSteel 1 hour ago (edited) I just get the dreaded "Reassign" message even though theres nothing there, and nothing happens. I love Logic, but Logic + MIDI Controllers = 💩. Even if I have the whole list of finished assignments, I feel like its a very volatile situation in which at any point all of the work becomes broken, or things dont work. As soon as I restart Logic or other situations....Sometimes it randomly assigns one Akai fader to two track sliders. This process is probably the worst from all other DAWs. That being said I only use Logic....
Totally get it. That is why I created this free course. I hope it helps simplify the process. Watching this course will help you get control of it. Good luck sir!🙏💯🔥💪👍
You're not showing how to use the learn mode under the controller assignment parameters? Your fast forwarding through all of that lol. Is there another video where you show this?
Sorry but this is not helpful for my situation at all. You don’t even show or explain the learn button that has 3 different lightings settings that even Apple doesn’t tell you what they mean. I am simply trying to g to assign 5 volume and 6 send to bus assignments on a launch XL midi mixer controller but they keep flipping to different assignments, and yes I am clicking on the learn button after the learn, and shutting down the controller surface each time but nothing works as it should. It seems like there is nobody giving all the info you need to make such a simple task work correctly. Sorry but this is so frustrating and I have been producing for over 30 years and using logic for over 20 years so not new to this, am I really that dumb…?
Hey, I totally know how you feel. This is a frustrating subject due to the nature of the Mackie Protocol. I do cover the learn function on Video 2 of the series. I’ll tag the playlist here. Your situation sounds fairly simple. Simply use an Index assignment for those two functions (volume, bus). I also do consultations if you are interested. Cheers!
Thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge. Very clear explanation helped me get get a grasp on how this all works.
Apple should be paying you for this, no chance of that 😅
I have actually done some gigs for Apple through a 3rd party vendor. I would definitely love to work with them more closely. Thank you for the comment.
Love this - I’ve been wanting to do this stuff for about 10 years but never managed to figure it out… until now!
Blessings to you @cbterry1000 - if there is anything else I missed on the subject, do LMK. Cheers!
Absolutely AMAZING series your Control Surface tutorials Eddie. Have wasted so much time watching rubbish online & still not getting the answers I was looking for. But your collection of vids answers exactly what I’ve looking for re: modes, flips, index, etc. And always explained so well too. Thanks for the effort you put it mate, much appreciated 🙏 Keep ‘em coming !
Blessings to you @bostonrodriguez
dude.. I LOVE you.. I been sitting here digging for info. im setting up a midi twister fighter for plugin controls and was going crazy trying to figure out how to switch plugin controls to isolate what plugin the midi fighter controls... im gonna be switching plugins with a stream deck, then midi fighter for parameters. the midi plugin for stream deck helps a ton. wow, thank you SO much.
What a blessings. Dude, make sure you save your clist file because working on control surfaces is like walking on eggshells. Have fun man!!!!
@@thatlogicproguy pff ha ha tell me about it!! so I actually hit a snag, maybe you can help (thought I had it working but no). trying to figure out how to map zones and modes. think I may be pushing it but you would prolly know.
Happy to meet over zoom. Email ThatLogicProGuy@gmail.com for more details
@@thatlogicproguy perfect! thanks so much man. will hit you up on the weekend :)
Oj Man. This is sooooo much help!!!! Thanks a million
You welcome mate. Be sure to sub. Cheers!
Thank you for a great guidance !
Blessings to you🙏
Thanks man, great tutorial!
💪 Appreciate it. Have a Great Day!
Very helpful. Thank you!
I appreciate it. Be sure to follow this channel and my other channel. @_TheModernCreative
Done and done!
Ah man this is GREEAAAAT !! I'm running a very old Logic 8 with a Novation SL MkII. I've been trying to find a way to get out of automap as it doesn't support Logic's plugins -- Logic Plugins only started to be supported from Logic 9 -- and so I haven't been able to use my controller for their parameters. With your workaround and out of automap I've assigned a bunch of Logic synths to the controller assignments window. At the push of a button I can switch between them! and tweak them with my hardware .. UUrrghh finally!! Many thanks :)
Blessings to you!!!🙏💪👍💯🔥
Hi. Thanks for all the useful tutorials.
I need your help.
Is there a way to control all parameters in Logic with a single knob?
I would like to click on any controller with the mouse and change it with my one-knob controller. Is that possible?
Thank you.
I literally just made a video about that. Check out the playlist.
@@thatlogicproguy thx 🙏
Bro if you have questions LMK
Wow. Thanks for these tutorials! I'm learning a lot. I'm still stuck on one major issue. I have set Controller Assignments so I can use my Moog Minitaur to control UADx Minimoog. But now all my MIDI CC mapping in other instruments (like Softube Model 80) don't work - I have to "Bypass All Control Surfaces" to use other mapping. Is there a way to have Logic's Controller Assignments just control the UADx Minimoog? I assumed I would use Zones or Modes for this but can't figure it out. Thanks for any help!
You should be able to switch modes for extra functionality. You can switch to UADx mode to control the plug and then go back to normal functionality when switching to the “catch all”mode. Hope that helps. Blessings!
Hey, as always awesome stuff. Just in case I missed it. Once I've turned my pads into seperate banks, will I no longer be able to use them for drums using drum machine designer for example, or will the pads now only be to change modes? Thanks for all this awesome info!
As I understand it, if you switch to an altogether different MODE than theoretically yes you should be able to use those unassigned pads to something else. It’s kind of a hierarchical system. Hope that helps!
@@thatlogicproguy ok thanks. So do you mean I’ll have to open assignments and manually switch the mode when I want to use my midi controller for just music creation. Sorry this is all so confusing.
So I have the Akai MK3 and it’s extremely limited in regards to knobs and faders as it has no faders, which you already know. So I’m trying to setup this technique you have shown to assign my pads to banking to the pan version, or the volume version.
So once I’ve assigned my pads to change the actual modes, how would I stop that function for changing modes so I can use them normally?
For example, my top four pads change modes to pan, volume, and eq plugin and a compressor plugin. But I want to now go into DMD and have full functionality of all pads. How do I prevent the top four pads now changing modes?
Certainly not easy. I think you will have to create a mode change to get into “Music Making” mode. I would have to experiment but on the surface this seems the most practical
@@thatlogicproguy I think my answer may lie within the programme change function. I really want to mess about to find the solution but whenever I go to sit and mess on, I just get overwhelmed!
Keep me posted with your progress
Question, please. Is it possible to custom assign tracks to faders across multiple banks? I have a large (>50) number of tracks/channels in a project, and I am using folder/summing stacks to hierarchically organize them. For example, I have 3 mics that blend the kick and them sum to a kick stack. The stack is Ch1, and the individual mics are on Ch2, Ch3, and Ch4. Then I have both a top and bottom snare mic that sum to a snare stack. These are on Ch5-7. This continues for the rest of the kit, and then for other instruments, well beyond ch50. I want to map my controller faders just to the summing stacks, so fader 1 would be ch1 for the kick stack, fader 2 would be ch 5 for the snare stack, etc. This seems possible within the first bank of 8 physical faders on my control surface, but what about when I bank right with a multiple of 8? Now I'm going to need physical fader 1 to map to another stack further down the virtual board, say ch 15, for example, and so on. Is it possible to do this, and what would be the approach for doing so?
Disclaimer: I have zero experience with controllers, but I have just ordered an X-Touch and am hoping I will be able to do this.
Thank you in advance!
You can do this but would certainly need time to set it up. I go through the core ideas in this series. I also do consultation visits for folks in the greater L.A area and over Zoom as well. Best of Luck!
@thatlogicproguy thank you! I was mostly just asking if it is possible and not specifically requesting you to dive in. I am simply relieved that it will be achievable and that I don't need to overhaul my track/channel mapping template just to accommodate limitations of the control surface interface. It would be considerably helpful to know if I need to use Modes and Zones to achieve this as opposed to simple by-fader learning in Expert View. It seems like I'm going to need a Mode for each virtual bank of 8 faders and then in Expert View I manually teach the faders for that Mode. Then instead of setting up a left/right multiplier to cycle between each virtual bank of 8 faders I have to actually switch Modes. Is that the general idea? Just looking for a yes/no here. Thank you!
Certainly possible. Just take your time and remember to save your clist in case something goes adrift. Let me know how you get along. Control Surfaces is “no man’s” land. It’s why I created this resources so folks could navigate with some concrete knowledge. If you have a specific question that I could tackle on video, let me know and I will consider putting it on my list. Please keep the questions concise. Cheers!
Hello Eddie, I have seen several videos on your channel and even subscribed, thanks for that. I would appreciate it if you could help me regarding Logic Pro. My loop browser is completely empty!
I couldn't find any reference to this kind of problem on the web, forums and Apple support site. It's really frustrating. Does this problem sound familiar to you? Do you have any idea how to fix this?
Sir, be sure to REINDEX ALL LOOPS and that should get you there. (By empty, you mean grayed out yes?) Did you download all of the necessary content? Cheers!
@@thatlogicproguy thank you very much for the quick answer. I already tried REINDEX ALL LOOPS.
By empty, I don't mean grayed out. i mean completely empty, there is no mention of any loop in the browser (0 iteams).
What's interesting is that when I go into the sound library manager, all the sounds and loops are marked as installend. When you still try to download one of the loops, there is no sign of any download, as if the computer ignores the attempt, because as far as it is concerned, the information has already been installed. But when I look for the loops on the computer I can't find them.
Sounds like you might have relocated to an external hard drive. Is that possible? I would definitely uninstall and reinstall everything so the folder paths match. I think that’s probably the quickest way to fix . LMK
@@thatlogicproguy When you say uninstall and reinstall everything. everything you mean logic itself?
Yes sir
I don't know about this feature but this is my setup on AKAI Mini MK3
Automation knob is turned on so I can control all parameters in 1 knob including 3rd party plugins (Absolute on Knob 8)
All knobs are absolute:
Knob 1 - Playhead Bar
Knob 2 - Playhead Division
Knob 3 - Bus 1 Send
Knob 4 - Bus 2 Send
Knob 5 - Track Selection
Knob 6 - Track Pan
Knob 7 - Master Volume
CC Bank A
CC Pad 1 - Mute Track
CC Pad 2 - Solo Track
CC Pad 3 - Input Monitoring
CC Pad 4 - Arm Record
CC Pad 5 - Rewind
CC Pad 6 - Stop
CC Pad 7 - Play/Stop
CC Pad 8 - Record
CC Bank B - I haven't mapped it yet. I'll try your set up and maybe try to group my knobs above to a mode (except knob 8). So 8 cc's on bank B times 7 knobs = 45 knobs in total.
Great set up!!!
u da best fr
Blessings to you 🙏💪💯👍🔥
I'm still unsure about the difference between a zone and mode. My goal is to have two settings for my pads - one setting will be for drumming (which is the default) the other setting will be for triggering live loop scenes. I've tried setting it using the learn button on a new mode, but it just seems to overwrite and I can't switch between the two settings.
Zone could be thought of as the midi controller and modes as functions within those control surfaces. You are going to have trigger a mode change. I go over this in the series. Hope that helps. Cheers!
I tried doing this with an iCON Platform M+ which has motorized faders, but the faders behavior is erratic. E.g. they jump right back down to zero value.
What’s up. Be sure to watch the whole series to get an in depth look. I think if you play with the value category inside of the controller assignments window, that should help out. Specifically,look at the format and mode. Hope this helps. Good luck.
@Fistful0fSteel
1 hour ago (edited)
I just get the dreaded "Reassign" message even though theres nothing there, and nothing happens. I love Logic, but Logic + MIDI Controllers = 💩. Even if I have the whole list of finished assignments, I feel like its a very volatile situation in which at any point all of the work becomes broken, or things dont work. As soon as I restart Logic or other situations....Sometimes it randomly assigns one Akai fader to two track sliders. This process is probably the worst from all other DAWs. That being said I only use Logic....
Totally get it. That is why I created this free course. I hope it helps simplify the process. Watching this course will help you get control of it. Good luck sir!🙏💯🔥💪👍
You're not showing how to use the learn mode under the controller assignment parameters? Your fast forwarding through all of that lol. Is there another video where you show this?
Watch the series sir. Enjoy!: Logic Pro Tutorial - Control Surfaces Support
ruclips.net/p/PLQz6RaERa9IKwJjU1Q4muYOMI0ucCVFy4
@@thatlogicproguy I'm an impatient dummy lol. Found it thanks watching now! Big help man thank you! Incredibly hard to find this information!
Same. I got tired of not knowing it so figured the community could use something like this. Blessings to you 🙏💯👍💪🔥
Sorry but this is not helpful for my situation at all. You don’t even show or explain the learn button that has 3 different lightings settings that even Apple doesn’t tell you what they mean. I am simply trying to g to assign 5 volume and 6 send to bus assignments on a launch XL midi mixer controller but they keep flipping to different assignments, and yes I am clicking on the learn button after the learn, and shutting down the controller surface each time but nothing works as it should. It seems like there is nobody giving all the info you need to make such a simple task work correctly. Sorry but this is so frustrating and I have been producing for over 30 years and using logic for over 20 years so not new to this, am I really that dumb…?
Hey, I totally know how you feel.
This is a frustrating subject due to the nature of the Mackie Protocol. I do cover the learn function on Video 2 of the series. I’ll tag the playlist here. Your situation sounds fairly simple. Simply use an Index assignment for those two functions (volume, bus). I also do consultations if you are interested. Cheers!
Logic Pro Tutorial - Control Surfaces Support
ruclips.net/p/PLQz6RaERa9IKwJjU1Q4muYOMI0ucCVFy4