8V vs 16V TURBO DRAG RACE-DODGE OMNI GLHS VS SPIRIT RT-WHO WINS? 175 HP/2200 LB VS 224 HP/3100 LBS

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  • @SixPackDan
    @SixPackDan 2 года назад +15

    I still have my 91 Daytona IROC RT. Not stock, pulled the balance shafts, titanium lifters, Adjustable cam gears, 2.5 exhaust, aftermarket computer and a copy of prototype cold ram air hood. She flat hauls ass.

    • @Brock_Landers
      @Brock_Landers 2 года назад +3

      My sister had an 1988 IROC Daytona, but it had the 2.2 8v intercooled turbo with a 5 speed. It was black with a black leather interior. Closest I got was a 1990 Spirit T1 2.5 turbo with an auto that I bought for $500. It had the Mitsu TE04H turbo and it was junk. I paid $50 for a used auto trans and I paid the dude a case of beer to swap it for me. I also bought a Daytona T3 .48 turbo and the engine snapped a rod before I could swap it in, so it went onto my 1992 Acura Integra.

    • @BoostedSpeedDemon
      @BoostedSpeedDemon Год назад

      I had a green '92. Kept breaking timing belt tensioners back in the day and I didn't know enough about them at the time to fix it. But when I had it running on an HX35 and mega squirt it ripped all the way to 150. Never figured out how much power it was making or took it to the track. Got offered a lot of money for it. I think lots of Shelby's ended up with it

    • @jeff-ds2pr
      @jeff-ds2pr Год назад

      @@Brock_Landers They never made an IROC Daytona in 1988, 1992 was the only year.

  • @dwej9080
    @dwej9080 2 года назад +5

    Back in the day I put a 3" cat back exhaust in my R/T and that thing would hit 60MPH before I got out of second gear. Ambushed many drivers with that sedan. Great memories!😛

  • @dantheman1998
    @dantheman1998 Год назад +6

    Everytime I see a Spirit R/T there always clapped out. For such a rare care you'd think people would take care of them

  • @marklucas3140
    @marklucas3140 2 года назад +4

    TIII definitely has a unique sound. It's totally different than 8v, SRT4, and Masi. I loved how my '93 IROC RT sounded with a cherry bomb and no cat.

  • @quicksilver462
    @quicksilver462 2 года назад +2

    My dad bought brand new in 1979 a Plymouth Horizon TC3, special order two tone silver/black, alum. mag wheels, black interior, 4 speed, buckets seats, gauges, no a/c, no p/s, no p/b, no p/w, from 79' to about the mid 90's he put 500k miles on it commuting to Tampa for work. Aside from regular maintenance, He had to rebuild the engine three times, at about 150k miles each time. still had original clutch and four speed transmission, never touched them. He quit driving it in the mid 90's when it developed fatigue cracks in the front strut towers. It was never in a crash, no rust, and I repainted it once and installed a new windshield. When he put it out to pasture in 1995 ish (we had 6 acres), it was still in decent shape, but eventually we gave it to a junk yard for scrap, along with our 1966 Chevy c10 (rusty, 66k miles) yard truck! I'm kind of wishing I had still kept it all these years, it would not have been hard to restore.

  • @seastacker8582
    @seastacker8582 2 года назад +7

    This is awesome. The drag race no one knew they needed to see.
    I had a 1988 Escort GT. Wish I had it back to turbo that little fella. 😅

    • @Brock_Landers
      @Brock_Landers 2 года назад +2

      Seriously, when I was 16 I had a chance to get one of those white 1988 Escort GTs and I wanted it SO badly, but I couldn't afford it. I've been looking for one ever since.

    • @Brock_Landers
      @Brock_Landers 2 года назад +3

      Those old 1.9 GT Escorts were really quick.

    • @snoopy5736
      @snoopy5736 2 года назад +2

      My dad had a few escort 4 doors and a white escort gt. It had sweet 16in wheels

    • @snoopy5736
      @snoopy5736 2 года назад

      @@Brock_Landers I wonder if there are any left out there, my favorite was a Ford Festiva my dad had.

    • @christopherc3017
      @christopherc3017 2 года назад +1

      @@snoopy5736over 20 years ago a friend had a festiva and there was a lot of nights we would follow dogs roaming the neighborhood in the car because of how small it was. We could pick it up when we got stuck chasing the dogs. Never tried to hit them just chase them throughout the neighborhood. We’d be driving through peoples yards and such laughing having a blast.

  • @buddyphillips9790
    @buddyphillips9790 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for posting this Richard my first car ever was a 1986 Dodge Daytona turbo Z I paid $900 for it back in 2004. The head gasket blew, the frame rotted out, and in 2008 when the economy crashed I was completely broke and junked it for $100. I know I know I'm crying too I'll probably regret it the rest of my life but at the time I had to get something to eat

  • @arcdestriumph586
    @arcdestriumph586 2 года назад +7

    I like that Spirit RT ... it's so K car in a little nicer pair of jeans. That it rips is cool. Imagine spiking the boost and dusting off Bubba GoldChain in his Vette in Captain K.

    • @marklucas3140
      @marklucas3140 2 года назад

      AA doesn't fit in the pants that K can fit into.

  • @peters8758
    @peters8758 9 месяцев назад +1

    The shift linkage improvements in 1990 made my 5-speed Spirit so much nicer than my ‘84 600ES turbo. Maybe that’s how he had 3rd gear issues.
    And the 2.5’s balance shaft made it so much smoother cruising home from work

  • @2t713
    @2t713 2 года назад +4

    I had both same track 1200', GLHS 14.7 @ 94mph - 1991 Spirit R/T 14.5 @ 95.5 mph. Both stock on street tires.

    • @Whats-It-To-Ya
      @Whats-It-To-Ya 2 года назад

      Your R/T wasnt running right then. My 92 Daytona R/T was hitting high 13's on stock boost with straight three inch exhaust, upgraded clutch and Cooper Cobra tires. Every other R/T owner ive ran into had similar times as me

    • @2t713
      @2t713 2 года назад

      @@Whats-It-To-Ya It was all stock, 1200' track the DA was probably 2000'. I put newer tires on it, wider and lower profile and got it down to 14.2 1/4. I got the car to run 13.2 @105 with open exhaust and 22" slicks, beating every Corvette at the track (Corvette club night) year was 1995-96.

    • @Whats-It-To-Ya
      @Whats-It-To-Ya 2 года назад

      @@2t713 13.2 is a really good run. I tried running slicks twice and broke the axles both times. Talk about humiliation at the dragstrip. Light turns green, gas, clutch, snap.

    • @2t713
      @2t713 2 года назад

      @@Whats-It-To-Ya Ha, I never broke an axle in the Spirit, the M/T slicks were bought for my Omni and they were only 22" tall, this was before they made the taller ones. I did break the intermediate shaft about 2 years later, replaced that with a new one and oil pump and sold the car. It was fun.

  • @ronsmith4325
    @ronsmith4325 Год назад +1

    I wanted a Spirit R/T so bad during the early 2000's, and kind of still do to this day.
    It's the perfect example of a factory sleeper.

  • @superstockamx9064
    @superstockamx9064 Год назад +1

    Had the 1st NHRA FWD Stock Eliminator in the 13’s. NHRA Record A/FS 13.26 @ 99.6 w/ a ’87 Daytona Shelby Z 5-speed. Was still my daily driver. This was before lap-top tuning. Car was soooo much fun!!!

  • @thebionicbassplayer
    @thebionicbassplayer 2 года назад +2

    I saw an Omni Dodge Charger GLHS recently at a Midas Shop so it's interesting to see these cars still have a strong following.

  • @FarmerDrew
    @FarmerDrew 2 года назад +3

    Fun! My Dad couldn't afford one, but my Uncle had a eurocar shop and so they took a Yugo, pryed in a Spyder 2.0T engine and drivetrain, and then he could race them 🤣😂🏁

  • @dangelamerkin6294
    @dangelamerkin6294 Год назад +1

    A fellow from Canada picked the best parts of these two cars. He used the lightweight platform of the GLHS charger and the engine from the Spirit R/T and ran 8.05 at at 175 around 2007, before it was easy to go fast.

    • @peters8758
      @peters8758 9 месяцев назад

      175 in the low 8’s?
      My turbo 2.2 Dodge 600ES 5-speed took a lot longer than that.
      I’ve heard of metric speeds, but not metric seconds…

  • @HeadFlowInc
    @HeadFlowInc 2 года назад +1

    I had a 1984 Chrysler Laser Turbo 5 speed, it was a blast chirping 2nd and 3rd gear! Plus 27+ mpg made it a great car! 👍👍👍

  • @408SPLKINGS
    @408SPLKINGS 2 года назад +1

    Nice fun video
    My buddy sister had a plain Jane stock Omni, it was so slow but in cornered like it's on rails !! It also had the deepest deep dish steering wheel ever made

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers 2 года назад +2

    Man, I had a 1990 dark red Spirit turbo back in the day that I paid $500 for, but it was a 2.5 8 valve Turbo I with an automatic and it was rated at 150 HP. It had the TE04H turbo and it was SLOW. I always wanted to put the Daytona T3 on it and I bought a Daytona .48 T3, but the 2.5 blew up around a turn when it was starved of oil, so I put the T3 on my Acura Integra. Still, I would've given anything to own this Spirit R/T. That 16V intercooled engine was legendary and still is. It was the predecessor to the SRT4.

    • @01trsmar
      @01trsmar 2 года назад

      Are you sure the Turbo was working?
      I bought/sold those cars in the 90's and a lot had blown Turbo's...My parents had a Daytona with a 2.5 Turbo and it lit the tires up when 3/4 floored and would run with a 5.0 Mustang to about 80,sister/brother in-law owned two 5.0 Mustangs 88 and 93....The Daytona ran 14.9-15.2 in the 1/4 with the 2.5 Turbo! Yes I took it to the track,car was bone stock and AUTOMATIC!
      1990 Black Cherry Daytona ES full body kit,2.5 turbo auto had 50,000 miles circa 1994'ish that car was always babied Moms car and the turbo worked on that one until they sold it with 200,000 miles in 2006! If you didnt change the oil every 3000 miles say good bye to the turbo!! They put the Shelby Daytona wheels on it when new,they didnt like the intricate design of the es wheels.
      I bought many Turbo cars and my Brother and myself raced a identical pair of 1985 Daytona Turbo-Z I bought ,one had 130,000 miles,1 owner and mint,the other was 70,000 miles and driven hard bought off a 20 something year old vs the 60 year old...
      I thought the 70,000 mile one it ran perfect even performance until we raced..The other both Daytona's same year 1985 both same axle ratio,same trans and turbo I 2.2 he pulled on me and gaped me by 6 cars by 100 mph,well he said he stopped at 100 I was not even 90mph! So that tells you there...
      I bought many others and same deal some were rockets some were slow like you said...I made tens of thousands on those cars,they sold like crazy here! That pair of Daytona's were my first turbo cars I bought around 93...did that until 99,then graduated to only 60's-70's Mopar Muscle Cars and restored and sold them..
      My best sleeper of the bunch was a plain 1988 Sundance 2 door 2.2 Turbo,5 speed manual,base model,only tell tail was the bulge on the hood that turbo Shadow/Sundance had..That car was babied and ran perfect and very quick..A couple times I beat unsuspecting Camaro Z-28's and 5.0 Mustangs..When you get the boost up on take off it knocks off up to 2 seconds off the magazine tested 0-60 and 1/4 mile(some were total clowns how they tested them lol),I tried at the track...just gotta watch wheel spin when raising boost even on automatics..That White base model Sundance had low miles under 50,000 I think and was like new...basically stole the car,they sold it to me for trade in value that was nothing in 1997.I generally made 2k off all those Daytona and other fwd Chrysler cars then,know how to buy them and sell them..I did repair the turbo's that were faulty,I mean main selling point is them to be somewhat quick..For an 80's ride 14-15 second 1/4 mile cars were real good in that dark decade..I gotta look for a Turbo Dodge now!

  • @badhonky6473
    @badhonky6473 2 года назад +2

    Back in the day i raced a spirit rt in my daytona and got whooped. Never knew they made a turbo spirit till then

  • @HioSSilver1999
    @HioSSilver1999 2 года назад +6

    Need to throw a sunbird turbo in the mix of these two!

    • @BDauto86
      @BDauto86 2 года назад

      Shadow/duster, Chrysler conquest/starion and eclipse/talon stockish turbo models. It would be a good race.

    • @dantheman1998
      @dantheman1998 Год назад

      A 1989 Grand Prix GTP with the turbo! All period correct cars lol

  • @applebitefool
    @applebitefool 2 года назад +3

    Driver mod is real in the rain

  • @Akuajin
    @Akuajin Месяц назад +1

    I wanted to find a Spirit R/T DOHC and transplant it into my 87 CSX, this was back in 97 so those R/T engines were still pretty spendy.
    Wish never sold my CSX, still one of the best handling stock cars I have owned.

  • @Pablo-cp9nc
    @Pablo-cp9nc Год назад +1

    That turbo III motor was no joke. Too bad it never found a home.

  • @joehudson3072
    @joehudson3072 2 года назад +1

    I was a used car wholesaler one time in the early 2000s I bought one of those Spirit RT broke had a hard time getting it running but it was really a fun car bought it out out of what they called the salvage sale not running another one of the cars I had that I wished I could have kept

  • @michaelfew7704
    @michaelfew7704 2 года назад +4

    That was awesome! I’m a little surprised a Super 60 kit on a GLHS did not take the T3 Spirit.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  2 года назад +4

      it wasn't a super 60

    • @buddyphillips9790
      @buddyphillips9790 2 года назад +1

      In no shape, way or form was a super 60 mentioned.

    • @marklucas3140
      @marklucas3140 2 года назад

      @@richardholdener1727 did Brian have the MP GLHS logic module installed or just a G-valve set for 14 PSI?

    • @michaelfew7704
      @michaelfew7704 2 года назад +1

      I thought I heard larger turbo, +20 injectors and Mopar stage 2 ecu upgrade. Those items used to be the make up of a Super 60 kit… I thought…

    • @Pablo-cp9nc
      @Pablo-cp9nc Год назад

      @@michaelfew7704
      He never said a 60 kit but did say turbo/fuel mods

  • @marklucas3140
    @marklucas3140 2 года назад +1

    Weight over drive axle is a huge traction factor. It's why my L-bodies have always made my P, K, G, J and E bodies feel like junk when driving in the snow. Deflate the rear tires on both of those cars with the exact same tire and watch the tires stay up on the Omni. 😜

  • @ptroughneck77
    @ptroughneck77 Год назад +1

    My pop's had an 86 omni glh turbo, that thing was awesome, don't call 8t goes like he'll for nothing!

  • @xnotx2
    @xnotx2 2 года назад +1

    hellll yea. I like the deeper tone and throaty notes from the GLHS

  • @indyrock8148
    @indyrock8148 2 года назад +1

    I'm glad your having fun

  • @v4lhulme
    @v4lhulme Год назад +1

    Need more power, you ain't living until you are squeezing 350+ out of these cars. Super 60 turbo minimum. I have csxt with a 50 trim turbo pushing 25-30 psi and holy balls it's a rocket! 555 with a 520 ring gear for longer gearing makes it a great highway car, full boost @3500 rpm. Cruise at 80 and just tickle the gas and you're gone.

  • @tylerwidmer7088
    @tylerwidmer7088 2 года назад +2

    I love this series man keep it up your content is awesome

  • @marklucas3140
    @marklucas3140 2 года назад +2

    That's why I love rod shift. I can just use my whole upper body weight and cram the damn thing into gear.

  • @doubleaaaron
    @doubleaaaron 2 года назад +1

    The t3 is a great sounding engine. I have an iroc r/t and 89 shelby daytona 5speed with low miles. Nice cars. The shelby is fast with a stage 3 computer but that iroc when it ran right was a beast.

    • @jessesmollet6352
      @jessesmollet6352 2 года назад +1

      Oh wow that's so cool that you own those! You also must be a pretty cool guy!

  • @buddyphillips9790
    @buddyphillips9790 2 года назад +1

    "Blow the welds on 3rd gear"
    Not going to lie that was a clever come back lol
    You can just tell that RT has more though

  • @brendanbuster
    @brendanbuster 2 года назад +2

    A boogie van shirt! Fellow CWM fans!

    • @TheCarFarm
      @TheCarFarm 2 года назад +2

      If you haven't seen CWM, you haven't lived...

  • @jesusyeshuaelelyonelshadai6295
    @jesusyeshuaelelyonelshadai6295 2 года назад +1

    I had a dodge Aries K it was a great car never gave me problems

  • @thman6453
    @thman6453 2 года назад +3

    Pretty close and evenly matched 👍 needs a driver mod lol

  • @thetriode
    @thetriode 2 года назад +1

    Was gonna say it would be interesting to see if the 304 based Spirit could keep up with one of these, except I am sure it'd get flat out trounced.
    You need to have a cowboy hat to wave around like Shelby in the original commercials.

  • @Go4BrokeOffroad
    @Go4BrokeOffroad 2 года назад +1

    Hahahaha. Cool to see you guys are still 16. Gives me hope.

  • @RecklessEnterainment
    @RecklessEnterainment 2 года назад +1

    Wasn’t aware you were here in Ohio lol. I love those spirit r/t’s. Such a sleeper.

  • @mrsteve4313
    @mrsteve4313 2 года назад +1

    That's a very nice sounding engine for a 4 cylinder(spirit rt).

  • @vee950
    @vee950 2 года назад +1

    Those cars are worth a lot of $$$ those are rare gems 💎

  • @kevyncagle6941
    @kevyncagle6941 2 года назад +4

    stock for stock,my RT would beat up my GLHS.

  • @bobbywalter5320
    @bobbywalter5320 2 года назад +2

    Clearly the glhs has plugged injectors ect...vacuum leaks boost leaks.... something

  • @jessesmollet6352
    @jessesmollet6352 2 года назад +1

    factory stock 94 volvo 850 turbo would blow them away haha. I don't know why you'd compare a 3100 and a 2200 lb car...Anyone who's ever taken the spare tire and jack out of a sub 3000 lb car noticed a difference.

  • @genefisk5276
    @genefisk5276 2 года назад +1

    Hi Richard have a ? on LS cam retaining plate do you put new ones on when you change cams or do you use the factory one

  • @adambergendorff2702
    @adambergendorff2702 2 года назад +1

    What a freakin Hilarious video! Those guys and the announcer, make me want to buy an Omni!

  • @jeff-ds2pr
    @jeff-ds2pr Год назад +1

    Actual 0-60 numbers for these cars: Omni: 6.5 seconds Spirit R/T: 5.8 seconds (Car and Driver test results).

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +1

      neither of these were stock

    • @jeff-ds2pr
      @jeff-ds2pr Год назад +1

      @@richardholdener1727 The HP ratings you post in the title are stock to the factory specs.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +1

      please watch the video to see that it was covered in detail that neither of these vehicles were stock

  • @cromBumny
    @cromBumny 2 года назад +1

    I always wanted to convert one to rear engine by moving the engine/transaxle yo the back.

  • @Whats-It-To-Ya
    @Whats-It-To-Ya 2 года назад +1

    This R/T needs a tune-up and a better driver because that Omni shouldn't be anywhere close to that R/T regardless of the weight difference.

  • @Sloppyjalopy123
    @Sloppyjalopy123 2 года назад +1

    How about a 1g dsm vs sprint?. Would be a fairly even race I would think.

  • @fascistpedant758
    @fascistpedant758 2 года назад +1

    I'm not sure the larger turbo helped the Omni. They already had pretty bad lag with the OG turbo.
    The other problem with the Omnis is that they lacked direction.

    • @chrisrock7715
      @chrisrock7715 2 года назад +4

      Looks like the direction was forward

  • @ecc5119
    @ecc5119 2 года назад +2

    A few years later , laughs and ask why? Because he could.😂

  • @derrelcarter9401
    @derrelcarter9401 2 года назад +1

    TIII in the Omni for the win

  • @SoftiesTruck
    @SoftiesTruck 2 года назад +1

    2200 lbs without driver is really really light!!!!

  • @SonicRacingEPt
    @SonicRacingEPt 2 года назад +2

    The Grass slowed them down

  • @marklucas3140
    @marklucas3140 2 года назад +1

    Well, I heard a mis-shift, but I couldn't tell in which car.

  • @Matp345
    @Matp345 2 года назад +4

    I thought the omni was gunna do it. Don't exactly explode out of the hole do they lol

  • @OklahomaProudBoys
    @OklahomaProudBoys 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ahhh, I want that R/T

  • @unclesquirrel6951
    @unclesquirrel6951 2 года назад +6

    Personally I blame squirrels

  • @andydhillon1977
    @andydhillon1977 Год назад +1

    I would've loved to have seen a rolling race from like 20 MPH instead of from a dig. Takes the driver out of the equation largely.

  • @SillyDillysTunes
    @SillyDillysTunes 2 года назад +1

    The 782 swirl head flows like crap, and doesn't do well even with porting. A 655 bathtub head would be best, with the largest aftermarket valves you can buy. Also the T1 early engines came with the large rods. The early NA 2.2's had the best flowing head, especially for boost. Port one of those and put it on your high hp engine. Also the bigger the plenum the better when it comes to the 8 valve. Real weapons when built right.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  2 года назад +1

      big plenum?

    • @SillyDillysTunes
      @SillyDillysTunes 2 года назад

      @@richardholdener1727 yeah you want a large plenum to insure the 8 valve head doesn't run out of air on the top end. The two piece port matched isn't terrible? But still doesn't have the volume in the plenum. VNT engines or super old 2.2's have forged cranks and the large rods. Most people get a little north of 450hp off those internals. But I'd like to see what it could do with your great tuning abilities.

    • @SillyDillysTunes
      @SillyDillysTunes 2 года назад

      @@richardholdener1727 my father engineered the BMF intake. It's the best but not sure if they are still being made. You could port the two piece runners and then just get the "mail box" plenum piece for the top and run the large Throttle body.

  • @simonriedeman1791
    @simonriedeman1791 2 года назад +1

    When can we get more love for the coyote guys?

  • @erne75
    @erne75 2 года назад +1

    The GLHS looks way cooler though...

  • @saturnfivehynrgrc581
    @saturnfivehynrgrc581 2 года назад +1

    Fun times!!!

  • @david929190
    @david929190 Год назад +1

    Is that a cold war motors bookie van shirt?

  • @SpecialAgentJamesAki
    @SpecialAgentJamesAki 2 года назад +1

    Cold War motors!

  • @Zionslayer1
    @Zionslayer1 2 года назад +1

    Put them on the Dyno!!!

  • @JesusRoseAgain
    @JesusRoseAgain 2 года назад +1

    I would love to see a 1986-1991 Buick Skylark/Somerset or Pontiac Grand AM Iron Duke 2.5L OHV I-4 Tuned up. That Dodge Spirit reminds me of those cars!

  • @hondatech5000
    @hondatech5000 2 года назад +1

    Fun time

  • @jeffchan8247
    @jeffchan8247 2 года назад +2

    I saw in SRT4 in the back round that would put a hurting on both of those Spirit RT and GLHS Omni.

  • @mavrick351
    @mavrick351 2 года назад +2

    Big block VW rabbit

  • @chrisrock7715
    @chrisrock7715 2 года назад +1

    Why are these awesome cars so filthy and unkept?

  • @bobbywalter5320
    @bobbywalter5320 2 года назад +1

    Kewlz

  • @Vuhjayjay68
    @Vuhjayjay68 2 года назад +1

    No roll races ??????????

  • @unclesquirrel6951
    @unclesquirrel6951 2 года назад +2

    221k 🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿

  • @daniellima2973
    @daniellima2973 Год назад +1

    Omni is way cooler

  • @jaymcilwee223
    @jaymcilwee223 2 года назад +1

    Is any one selling a dodge omni GLHS?

  • @unclesquirrel6951
    @unclesquirrel6951 2 года назад +2

    🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿✅