I think your assessment of the Queen’s Wharf Development is well thought through. We have to keep our heritage areas vital, which requires mixed use to obtain the funds for preservation.
Thank you 😊 Yep, I think realistically it’s always going to be about compromise and trade offs. I’ve certainly seen much worse examples of heritage buildings in new developments!
Great video, thanks Marianne! Re the naming of 'Spring Hill' - my theory is that it referred to the hill at the catchment area for the Wheat Creek (which, as you probably know, flowed through Roma Street, the town centre and entered the river at Creek Street) - this catchment area was the 'bowl' formed by modern Petrie Terrace, College Road and Wickham Terrace (now the Roma Street Parkland and Inner Northern Busway) I'm puzzled by the old newspaper clipping at 3:17 - York's Hollow was not connected to the Wheat Creek area until the construction of the Sandgate railway around 1880 - and the dam on Wheat Creek in modern Roma Street was Brisbane's main water source, not York's Hollow (until the arrival of the pipeline from Enoggera Reservoir in 1866)
I lived in Spring Hill around 1984ish, at 202 Water St. There was an almost continuous trickle of water from out of the dirt floor of our garage, and down into the gutter. One time I put in a vegetable garden in the back yard. Everything there grew incredibly well, until I came home from work to find my garden gone. Vanished. When I went out to it I discovered there was a tunnel around 60cm in diameter that ran down the hill towards our garage, and my tilling the soil was enough to form a sinkhole. I think most of the Southern face of the ridge probably had little springs like we had scattered about.
I love history and found you by chance via WalkaboutwithRob. I think it was the Rosalie walk. The heritage buildings around Queens Wharf are beautiful, so good to see them refurbished and protected so future generations can enjoy them too. A visit to the Convict museum at the Comissiriat store is on my radar! You are a wealth of wisdom for Brisbane's history, really enjoyed this episode... cant wait to watch more!
What a fascinating tour these two streets (Gloucester and Thornbury) provide of early Brisbane architecture. A chronology of styles all in one place. The council should provide plaques and signage for people to read. Thank you! I've learnt so much!
@@farqueue That’s a bit harsh far_queue. Spring Hill has always been an inclusive community of all ages and demographics and has largely avoided the widespread gentrification of New Farm, Paddington etc. You'll see quite a few unrenovated simple cottages in this clip. The question is how do you protect Brisbane’s historic architecture? If the people who live in them maintain these heritage-listed places surely it’s a good thing? Not sure what the option is - demolish them for low-cost housing?
another case solved ☝️ we are losing these types of houses at an alarming rate. thanks very much for putting it on the record 🙏 very valuable information. very important that we don't forget the past.
I'm loving your channel! These old buildings and their history are fascinating. I reckon a great bit of content to present might be Sir Joh's years as Premier and how Brisbane (and it's buildings) changed during that period. Love your work!
The first house I lived in was number 1 Thornbury street, back in the early 60’s. My grandmother owned it and the house next door and she ran them as boarding houses from before ww2.
I lived in Spring Hill in the late '70's/early 80's. At one stage when there were some major roadworks in Water street, they exposed, some 3m below road level, the original creek- very narrow, lined with natural creek rock, pristine fresh water, covered by an arched cement tunnel/cover, obviously long buried and covered by road. Only a small area was exposed and quickly (within a day) re-covered. Hence the street name - perhaps the mythical 'spring' (Water street is the gully between the steep slopes either side with Gregory Terrace and St Paul's Tce along ridges)
Very interesting video chanced on by accident. I wonder whether Constance Petries book on her father Tom, Reminiscences of Early Qld, has any references to the site/ area. I read an article years ago which talked about the springs cascading down the hill into what is now Roma St Parkland. I wonder if that was a reference to the name given by the early settlers. Of course that site became Brisbane's first water source and drained the Tank Stream down to the River under what is now Eagle St. Nearby on the river bank opposite Tank St is a plinth erroneously commemorating Oxleys visit to find drinking water- only that Oxley probably landed further upstream along Coronation Drive near the old Milton Tennis Courts. There is still a drain/ water course there today exiting near the Shell servo on Coro Drive.. That water drained out of a swamp that today is the Park in front of Milton State School.. For those interested in colonial Brisbane, read 'Edinglassie' by Melissa Lukashenko- an interesting fiction novel based on research and Blak history.
I've always been a bit puzzled by the Spring Hill name because I'd never found any connection to a spring either. I also had a chuckle because 'Hill Valley' is the fictional housing estate in the 'Back to the Future' movies.
I lived in Spring Hill for 6mnths and the house was certainly built before 1888,looked like it was built by convicts,it had a bit of lean to it and an outside dunny in 1997.lol.its still there.interesting place to live.
Re lime production, in the early colonial period Aboriginal shell middens were mined to provide the raw material which was processed into lime. I'm not sure if this happened in Brisbane, but it's likely.
I used to rent 6 Thurlow St Newmarket, I was told it was built in the 1860's or 70's and was one of the oldest private residences in Brisbane. I googled, but I can't seem to find any information on it these days. I seem to recall something about a stable a few houses down as well. Was a really nice place. Seperate bathroom and dining room for the convict help, huge pot bellied stove, and an attic to send the kids to when they were naughty.
I think your assessment of the Queen’s Wharf Development is well thought through. We have to keep our heritage areas vital, which requires mixed use to obtain the funds for preservation.
Thank you 😊 Yep, I think realistically it’s always going to be about compromise and trade offs. I’ve certainly seen much worse examples of heritage buildings in new developments!
Great video, thanks Marianne!
Re the naming of 'Spring Hill' - my theory is that it referred to the hill at the catchment area for the Wheat Creek (which, as you probably know, flowed through Roma Street, the town centre and entered the river at Creek Street) - this catchment area was the 'bowl' formed by modern Petrie Terrace, College Road and Wickham Terrace (now the Roma Street Parkland and Inner Northern Busway)
I'm puzzled by the old newspaper clipping at 3:17 - York's Hollow was not connected to the Wheat Creek area until the construction of the Sandgate railway around 1880 - and the dam on Wheat Creek in modern Roma Street was Brisbane's main water source, not York's Hollow (until the arrival of the pipeline from Enoggera Reservoir in 1866)
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Great video. I hope the old houses in Spring Hill are protected.
Thanks Craig! Yes, most of them are at least protected from demolition thankfully! Thanks so much for watching, I really appreciate it!
Water street definitely lives up to its name to this day. It becomes a rapidly flowing creek during summer storms!
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Love that I stumbled across this channel. Thank you so much!
Love that you loved stumbling across it! Thanks! 😊
I lived in Spring Hill around 1984ish, at 202 Water St.
There was an almost continuous trickle of water from out of the dirt floor of our garage, and down into the gutter.
One time I put in a vegetable garden in the back yard. Everything there grew incredibly well, until I came home from work to find my garden gone. Vanished. When I went out to it I discovered there was a tunnel around 60cm in diameter that ran down the hill towards our garage, and my tilling the soil was enough to form a sinkhole.
I think most of the Southern face of the ridge probably had little springs like we had scattered about.
Oh my gosh! Bet that was a bit of a shock! 😱 How interesting though, thank you!
I love history and found you by chance via WalkaboutwithRob. I think it was the Rosalie walk. The heritage buildings around Queens Wharf are beautiful, so good to see them refurbished and protected so future generations can enjoy them too. A visit to the Convict museum at the Comissiriat store is on my radar!
You are a wealth of wisdom for Brisbane's history, really enjoyed this episode... cant wait to watch more!
Yay! Glad you found me! Thanks 😊
Fantastic video!!
Thank you very much! 😊
What a fascinating tour these two streets (Gloucester and Thornbury) provide of early Brisbane architecture. A chronology of styles all in one place. The council should provide plaques and signage for people to read. Thank you! I've learnt so much!
I am sure the intergenerational wealth recipients do not welcome any such attention on their realty
@@farqueue That’s a bit harsh far_queue. Spring Hill has always been an inclusive community of all ages and demographics and has largely avoided the widespread gentrification of New Farm, Paddington etc. You'll see quite a few unrenovated simple cottages in this clip. The question is how do you protect Brisbane’s historic architecture? If the people who live in them maintain these heritage-listed places surely it’s a good thing? Not sure what the option is - demolish them for low-cost housing?
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it! 😊
another case solved ☝️ we are losing these types of houses at an alarming rate. thanks very much for putting it on the record 🙏 very valuable information. very important that we don't forget the past.
My pleasure! Thanks for your kind words! 😊
I'm loving your channel! These old buildings and their history are fascinating. I reckon a great bit of content to present might be Sir Joh's years as Premier and how Brisbane (and it's buildings) changed during that period. Love your work!
Thank you! Oh what a great idea! I want to do a “places of the Fitzgerald Inquiry” too! I.e. Brisbane’s Underbelly!
@@thehousedetective I look forward to that! 🤗
I love Spring Hill 💛 thank you
Me too! My pleasure! Thanks so much for watching 😊
The first house I lived in was number 1 Thornbury street, back in the early 60’s. My grandmother owned it and the house next door and she ran them as boarding houses from before ww2.
Oh how amazing!!! I researched the one next door, so she would have been part of the history I put together!! Thanks for sharing!!
I lived in Spring Hill in the late '70's/early 80's. At one stage when there were some major roadworks in Water street, they exposed, some 3m below road level, the original creek- very narrow, lined with natural creek rock, pristine fresh water, covered by an arched cement tunnel/cover, obviously long buried and covered by road. Only a small area was exposed and quickly (within a day) re-covered. Hence the street name - perhaps the mythical 'spring' (Water street is the gully between the steep slopes either side with Gregory Terrace and St Paul's Tce along ridges)
Wow, how cool!
Very interesting video chanced on by accident. I wonder whether Constance Petries book on her father Tom, Reminiscences of Early Qld, has any references to the site/ area. I read an article years ago which talked about the springs cascading down the hill into what is now Roma St Parkland. I wonder if that was a reference to the name given by the early settlers. Of course that site became Brisbane's first water source and drained the Tank Stream down to the River under what is now Eagle St. Nearby on the river bank opposite Tank St is a plinth erroneously commemorating Oxleys visit to find drinking water- only that Oxley probably landed further upstream along Coronation Drive near the old Milton Tennis Courts. There is still a drain/ water course there today exiting near the Shell servo on Coro Drive.. That water drained out of a swamp that today is the Park in front of Milton State School..
For those interested in colonial Brisbane, read 'Edinglassie' by Melissa Lukashenko- an interesting fiction novel based on research and Blak history.
Good question! I actually discussed the Red Jacket Swamp /Milton School in my most recent video! Very interesting!
I've always been a bit puzzled by the Spring Hill name because I'd never found any connection to a spring either. I also had a chuckle because 'Hill Valley' is the fictional housing estate in the 'Back to the Future' movies.
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I lived in Spring Hill for 6mnths and the house was certainly built before 1888,looked like it was built by convicts,it had a bit of lean to it and an outside dunny in 1997.lol.its still there.interesting place to live.
Whoa! Sounds like an interesting place! Thanks for watching!
Re lime production, in the early colonial period Aboriginal shell middens were mined to provide the raw material which was processed into lime. I'm not sure if this happened in Brisbane, but it's likely.
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I used to rent 6 Thurlow St Newmarket, I was told it was built in the 1860's or 70's and was one of the oldest private residences in Brisbane. I googled, but I can't seem to find any information on it these days. I seem to recall something about a stable a few houses down as well.
Was a really nice place. Seperate bathroom and dining room for the convict help, huge pot bellied stove, and an attic to send the kids to when they were naughty.
Ooh I know the one you mean! Beautiful place!
Yes, I'm one of those weird people too. Love these videos.
🤣 I look forward to bumping into you some time, staring at a wall! Thanks so much for watching, I'm glad you're enjoying them!
……the land All Hallows’ School is situated upon, has a very interesting history worth looking into…………
It sure does!!
jon levi channel has some great research on old buildings
Oooh thanks for the tip! Looks great!
I’d love to see a collaboration with yourself and @walkaboutwithrob
I'd love to do one too! You never know! 🤞
This aged well
The genes of the surviving , strong, convicts is the DNA of Australia
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Know any information on Cliveden mansion on Gregory Terrace spring Hill
There's heaps of info on it on this page, if you click the "history" tab! Very interesting! apps.des.qld.gov.au/heritage-register/detail/?id=602186
Chricky!, someone like you lived in Thornberry Street near a spring?
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I'd live in the 'Wind' mill.
Me too! I always wanted to live in a lighthouse, so I reckon it would be pretty close! 😊
Were conficts gamblers at Queens Wharf?
🤣 No doubt! There was probably also a lot of conflict between the convicts as a result! 😜
I need to reframe my comment, I mis spelled the word "convict"
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How 🥹 the govt closed down the Pindari homeless men's shelter when there is ENORMOUS need
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Maybe you should go ask the aborigines of the area about their traditions of water sources ?
I’d love too! That would be the best source for sure!