The Best Sealclubber in 0.5.11 - Zuiho [191k damage]

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  • @greasemonkey6362
    @greasemonkey6362 8 лет назад +2

    I started playing CV's a couple of days ago and thanks to your vids I am learning fast . thank you Flamu . :)

  • @Toadfish7
    @Toadfish7 8 лет назад +1

    I needed this, thank you. Being a hosho against a bogue was very frustrating and this cheered me up.

    • @mylenewhalen5375
      @mylenewhalen5375 8 лет назад +1

      The Zuiho wins against the Bogue hands down. It's really an unfair match up.

    • @finx8931
      @finx8931 8 лет назад +1

      +Mylene Whalen Try it to win a fighterbattle vs 12 fighters :D

    • @TeeDee87
      @TeeDee87 8 лет назад

      Sure. I remember one game I played couple weeks ago with my bogue. 3 strafes and he had no strike forces left and I had clear sky. He got one dive bomb hit to our forces before he was a sitting duck with no planes. But the annoying part of US cv line is that there's not much you can do after that. Pretty boring rest map :)

    • @mylenewhalen5375
      @mylenewhalen5375 8 лет назад

      DerLoLAp Exactly what TeeDee87 said, your fighters win and you prevented the enemy from doing damage, but you were never even capable of doing any real damage in the first place. Congratulations, you broke even!

  • @Flamuu
    @Flamuu  8 лет назад +8

    Regarding the video I made yesterday of how the Nagato is much squishier than it looks.. turns out even wargaming has noticed it and are fixing what was a bug, making it more fragile than intended.
    forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/95238-wgs-armor-viewer-ii-error-boogaloo/#topmost
    Dev answer;
    forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/95238-wgs-armor-viewer-ii-error-boogaloo/page__st__20__pid__2335800#entry2335800
    So Nagato players will enjoy an armor buff soon.

    • @fokjohnpainkiller
      @fokjohnpainkiller 8 лет назад

      Cool, thanks for the heads up

    • @maxt1307
      @maxt1307 8 лет назад

      Thanks Flamu, and i'm almost to the Nagato, and it's going to be better, great videos by the way :)

    • @trippledee351
      @trippledee351 8 лет назад

      Big difference from the Fuso to the Nagato. Less guns and a slower rate of fire. But when you land good shots and RNGesus isn't hating on you, she packs a hell of a nasty punch. Her AA and secondaries are pretty decent also. Unlike the Fuso, the Nagato does not suck in stock form, its a much less painful grind to the B hull.

    • @Tormentor
      @Tormentor 8 лет назад

      Any chance the same will happen to the Amagi?

    • @fokjohnpainkiller
      @fokjohnpainkiller 8 лет назад

      Tormentor Pretty sure that was designed to be a battlecruiser so... No

  • @roller_47
    @roller_47 8 лет назад +7

    Best seal clubber for me is the Kamikaze R by far. Minekaze is even slightly better if you pimp that ship out with a skilled commander as it's slightly faster.

  • @macbeth2354
    @macbeth2354 8 лет назад +9

    In 90% of my zuiho games I get matchmaked against air superiority Bogues.
    Which sucks.

  • @Xavier_LD
    @Xavier_LD 8 лет назад +27

    WTF daily Kraken.............

    • @bensemusx
      @bensemusx 8 лет назад +2

      I'm happy with 1 a month :(

    • @ulkoilme
      @ulkoilme 8 лет назад

      i take Kraken with Hosho anyday i want

    • @ulkoilme
      @ulkoilme 8 лет назад

      done triple back to back

  • @Fenris86
    @Fenris86 8 лет назад +1

    Just wondering, what if the enemy CV would have been an Air Superiority Bogue? I hate those things. :(

  • @rogerwilco2
    @rogerwilco2 7 лет назад +2

    Can you maybe make a new video after they removed manual drop?

  • @TonboIV
    @TonboIV 8 лет назад +3

    What should that enemy carrier have done to prevent you sniping him? Once you locked down his fighter, it seemed like he was out of options.

    • @wiggumesquilax9480
      @wiggumesquilax9480 8 лет назад +6

      Look where Flamu's Zuiho is at the time of the snipe. In B2, behind a wall of cruisers and battleships, no more than 5 km from help. Now look to where the enemy Zuiho's running. At the back of the map, too far away from his team to be saved.
      An IJN carrier has a good enough concealment rating to sneak up a bit, don't be afraid to use it.

  • @greatsisyphus7712
    @greatsisyphus7712 7 лет назад +1

    i have like 50 games played in CVs (Hosho and Zuiho) and like 300 all together... I think im doing ok in the Zuiho (like 80k avg dmg) but I really struggle against Bouges... the fighters that it gets just deny me from doing almost anything... how to counter that?

  • @trippledee351
    @trippledee351 8 лет назад

    Hey Flamu, could you offer some advice on how to (if possible) counter or avoid CV cross drops. And is there a way to evade, minimize or dodge dive bomber strikes?

  • @Raz0rking
    @Raz0rking 8 лет назад +1

    Flamu. How do you turn the target reticule of torpedo bombers while holding ALT down?

    • @Chaps_Jr
      @Chaps_Jr 8 лет назад +1

      Set the manual drop point, then click and rotate the directional indicator (located on the ring around your attack area).

  • @goomich9062
    @goomich9062 8 лет назад +2

    Gods, I hate carriers!
    My grandfather hated them too. Even before they put out his eyes.

  • @hieuquang2790
    @hieuquang2790 7 лет назад

    Why does my zuiho have only one torpedo crew that has two videos in the video ???

  • @ΓρηγόρηςΠανούσης
    @ΓρηγόρηςΠανούσης 6 лет назад

    Why were your dive bombers so accurate? Mine hit the enemy with just one bomb. And the bombers are from the same ship. Can you tell me how did you make the bomb dispersion so little?

  • @pompiliosouto2480
    @pompiliosouto2480 8 лет назад +1

    The issue I have with CVs is that from t6 up the USN ones have no chance against moderately competent IJN ones :(
    I love my strike lexi, but a shokaku that isn't a potato can ruin me with no issues.
    The USN just aren't flexible enough with their loadouts.

    • @Royquah
      @Royquah 8 лет назад

      use AS,not strike

  • @PerfectDeath4
    @PerfectDeath4 8 лет назад

    I only have the Tier V Bogue and I avoid getting the other CAG load-outs. Just the 1 Fighter, 1 Torp Bomber default for a balanced CAG. It can't do the cross-rape attack nor the closing cone manual drop but holy crap! It feels so dirty...

  • @elementalterror
    @elementalterror 8 лет назад

    Hey Flamu, Where can i ge tthat mapskin thing you use? i've tried to frined it, but just can't get to it, the google fu is failing me

    • @sirmoke9646
      @sirmoke9646 8 лет назад

      Aslain's modpack most likely

  • @dadadadwi
    @dadadadwi 8 лет назад

    What do you think of the langley? Can it club as well as the zuiho?

  • @Twannieboy
    @Twannieboy 8 лет назад

    You filthy carrier sniper ;) That poor guy against a sealclubber. But sealclubbing is the most fun there is :P

  • @yansuki4240
    @yansuki4240 8 лет назад +1

    i love zuihou, she sit comfortably in tier V matching mostly tier VI, V and VI. unlike Ryuujou that gets drag in tier VIII battle easily.
    RIP flatchested Carrier.

    • @kingnfs1
      @kingnfs1 8 лет назад +1

      Or maybe Ryujo can just attack same tier ship

    • @Juggy00
      @Juggy00 8 лет назад

      +Cirno Ryujo is god teir if used by good captain.

  • @kendallsisson1091
    @kendallsisson1091 8 лет назад

    May be just me but the Scharnhorst in a t5 game feels like the ultimate seal clubber!!! :)

  • @roller_47
    @roller_47 8 лет назад

    I need to learn how to play CVs as they're the one class of ships I haven't touched yet. I bought a Langley a few days ago and have been playing it in Co-Op mode to learn the basics.

    • @DazBull26
      @DazBull26 8 лет назад

      same i got a langley in co op to get the last 2 secret achievments, and have been practicing. Never played cvs once from CBT until now.

    • @razvandavid1510
      @razvandavid1510 8 лет назад

      I'm in the same situation, lol. I bought Hosho and practised with its only 2 torpedo squads and one fighter squad. It's weird not having bombers, and I have no idea how to manual drop torpedos.

    • @DazBull26
      @DazBull26 8 лет назад

      press alt key

  • @razvandavid1510
    @razvandavid1510 8 лет назад

    What ship would you recommend as a seal clubber for someone who doesn't know how to play CVs, like myself? Any other option?

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong 8 лет назад +3

      Try Nicholas. When facing lower tiers, you can basically do whatever you want. I mean, you can even choose to rush a cruiser, smoke up, and wreck them with AP. Against destroyers, you can outgun almost every single one. Your concealment is pretty decent so you can contest caps. You have 12 torps with a mean punch so you can rush battleships. And above all you have a great health pool to support you doing all of that, more so if you have the skill that gives you 2000 health.
      Against higher tiers it's more difficult of course, but again, your concealment is actually very good compared to those higher tier lighthouse destroyers, the lone exception being the Mutsuki, but you outgun it by far. So use that extra bit of concealment to rotate your guns and position yourself, whether you are just keeping them spotted while remaining unspotted or engaging them when you have a health or team support advantage. In those games your job is to give enemy destroyers a bad time, which you are actually very good at. So don't be an idiot and try to yolo people, or smoke up when absolutely not necessary and harass battleships. You only fight cruisers and battleships after you're done fighting all enemy destroyers, or when situation permits otherwise. Your guns are your main weapons; only use torps when: 1. your enemy comes close to you while you are in the smoke or behind an island 2. enemy destroyer is sitting and shooting in smoke. Always fight around the objective: A well played American destroyer is very decisive to the outcome of a game, probably falling just short of Japanese carriers. I mean, if you can trade off three enemy destroyers in a Nicholas, your team will have a huge capping advantage, and your cruisers and battleships will be much more comfortable without threats of torpedoes. Then they really have to suck to lose the game. Play like this, you won't get tons of damage, but you can get crazy win rates. I mean 70% crazy.

    • @razvandavid1510
      @razvandavid1510 8 лет назад

      Thank you for the insights. I appreciate your opinion and the effort you put into writing this. I will try this ship next. Thank you, captain! o7

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong 8 лет назад

      For captain skills I recommend 1-2 for rate of fire, 2-6 for dogfighting, 3-4 for torpedoebeats, 4-3 for more dogfighting/yolo capital, 5-4 for making Japanese destroyers miserable, and finally 3-6 just in case. Please don't pick 4-1 or 4-2 in American destroyers, because they don't make you better at dogfighting. If you don't want to dogfight and win games and instead just want to sit back and annoy battleships then go play Russian destroyers I don't care. But if you're playing an American destroyer and you are not actively fighting enemy destroyers and contesting caps, you're no different than those people you want to seal club in the first place.

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong 8 лет назад +1

      For captain skills I recommend 1-2 for rate of fire, 2-6 for dogfighting, 3-4 for torpedoebeats, 4-3 for more dogfighting/yolo capital, 5-4 for making Japanese destroyers miserable, and finally 3-6 just in case. Please don't pick 4-1 or 4-2 in American destroyers, because they don't make you better at dogfighting. If you don't want to dogfight and win games and instead just want to sit back and annoy battleships then go play Russian destroyers I don't care. But if you're playing an American destroyer and you are not actively fighting enemy destroyers and contesting caps, you're no different than those people you want to seal club in the first place.

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong 8 лет назад

      Only problem now is match making. Nicholas doesn't get those great 3-5 games anymore. But you can still have fun in 4-5 and 5-6, and still be decisive in 5-7.

  • @BayushiTawa
    @BayushiTawa 8 лет назад

    Lately I have been playing a bit of low / medium tier BBs. Some carriers are total potatoes and others are supreme seal clubbers... My Nikolai tolerates one of these two types... Against the other... well I pretty much depend on my own CV teammates not being potatoes...
    On the other hand my Texas enjoys both :-)

  • @finx8931
    @finx8931 8 лет назад

    I got yesterday my hiryu mostly i get saipans (why??) I can't deal with them now because i didn't got my aircontrollupgrade for the 2-2-2 after that it should be easy right? :D

    • @finx8931
      @finx8931 8 лет назад

      +Cyanide7662 yes but i can look them with 4 fihgters aand strave them down

  • @cobrazax
    @cobrazax 8 лет назад +1

    vs an air sup bogue that is good, its very hard, but skill is rare in those tiers....

  • @vladimirvojtaml
    @vladimirvojtaml 8 лет назад +1

    Makes me sad when I conpare this gameplay ti my standart Lexington game... 130k dmg is normal but Shoka poops on you superhard and the lack of TBs in hangar mean if I lose them on some powercreeped AA ship there's little way to do damage since even manual drops are too rng heavy and even with 90% of a BB can miss all bombs which is sad.

  • @shimpoopimpoo7643
    @shimpoopimpoo7643 7 лет назад +1

    It's very hard to get such results these days in tier IV and V, makes me sad that Wargaming abolished manual drops there

    • @zeerk2466
      @zeerk2466 3 года назад +1

      hey at least u still had rts cv then, now they threw out the entire game

    • @Pepega_Ch
      @Pepega_Ch 3 года назад

      Same. I started playing when they removed manual drop from t4-5 CV FeelsBadMan

  • @michaelstanley1112
    @michaelstanley1112 8 лет назад

    i use sealclubber ship to farm kraken, it is easy to get conferate even in high tier, just 6 good salvo on 6 different ship on a T6-8 BB and you get yourself a confereate. I got like 400 conferate flag and i used them on every ship and I still can't finish them. I have to use my hosho, but i am changing to zuiho now (since MM is not particularly nice to hosho now, always fighting against T5, maybe it is just me or maybe it is asian server, make everything difficult)

    • @michaelstanley1112
      @michaelstanley1112 8 лет назад

      also, high caliber is easy, just wait until ranked battle, and about 50% of the game i am in with a BB i got high caliber

  • @derpherpinaship
    @derpherpinaship 8 лет назад

    whats the best setup for Bogue?

  • @coronal2207
    @coronal2207 6 лет назад

    If only she is still this strong, I really wish they kept in manual drop for low tier cvs

  • @ratcity9465
    @ratcity9465 8 лет назад +1

    you should get the T5 perk with that ship so you can get 5 planes

    • @BayushiTawa
      @BayushiTawa 8 лет назад +2

      Does not affect torp bombers which are the main damage dealers. Anyhow, yes, eventually every carrier captain gets that skill and Flamu knows it veeeery well...

  • @raganon5906
    @raganon5906 8 лет назад

    what is a sealclubber ?

    • @conhero200
      @conhero200 8 лет назад

      someone who is highly skilled at the game, who plays w/ an unrelatively skilled/new player

    • @raganon5906
      @raganon5906 8 лет назад

      ah ok thx :D

  • @Itsallgoodtogo
    @Itsallgoodtogo 8 лет назад +1

    Well ... explains the reason why Zuiho is the best W/L ratio carrier on the global statistics. But I have to dissagree a bit with what you said about carriers not being underpowerd. At higher tiers AA is getting more and more out of control, resulting in CVs sitting and waiting for an opening most of the time. Yes great carrier players always have a great effect on the battle ... thats why the carrier class is limited in random battles. There is an AA power creep that is slowly pushing away damage from CV players at high tiers.
    CV's will always be hard to balance because of the high skill cap. If you want to ballance the game for the higher skilled players the lower skilled players will grow tired of this game. If you ballance it for the lower skileld players the higher skilled players will extinguish enemy teams like you did in the zuiho, resulting in people leaving the game again.
    Fact is ... I used to be scared of a hakuryu on the enemy team. Now I'm not.

    • @joshuabroden3733
      @joshuabroden3733 6 лет назад

      You posted this when carriers decayed and rotted. Back when he posted the the video carriers where objectively too strong, and now with the shit economy and "nerfs" carrier players are not only a small community but are also weaker.

  • @quicknick14
    @quicknick14 8 лет назад

    I somehow feel Hosho is actually a better sealclubber than zuiho. Since Zuiho is more likely to meet bogue and independence with 2 fighters, or Ryujo with 3 fighters. Other than that cleveland can also be a nightmare for zuiho.

    • @mylenewhalen5375
      @mylenewhalen5375 8 лет назад

      Here, check my stats on it. I have used it as my seal clubber for a long time, and I'm really not even close to Flamu's skill level. I'd say 75% of the time, the enemy CV will be a Bogue, and I have no idea why. The Bogue is terrible. If you see that the enemy CV is a Bogue, you should be happy because that is a match up that you just can't lose!
      na.warships.today/player/1016204459/Tembin

    • @quicknick14
      @quicknick14 8 лет назад

      Well interestingly I torture most zuiho players with my bogue, especially if I am using 2 fighters. :)

    • @mylenewhalen5375
      @mylenewhalen5375 8 лет назад

      My stats don't lie. Yes, Bogue fighters murder Zuiho planes, but who cares? You do flat out 0 damage. Sure you can spot, but are the other players at this tier skilled enough to take advantage of your spotting? Not always.
      What I mean is, at best, you can shut down the Zuiho and keep their damage low, but yours is already so low that you have only succeeded in breaking even. If the Zuiho gets in even one good run, they win.

    • @mylenewhalen5375
      @mylenewhalen5375 8 лет назад

      That last part might be it. US does seem to have more BBs for whatever reason.
      I would say 75% of the time, I face a Bogue, and the majority of those run with fighters.
      Honestly though, if they run fighters, the fighters normally protect the slow BBs. I try to cross drop the DDs which are very often unprotected.
      It's really not just a couple games. I'm at 108 wins out of 150 matches in it. That and the Minekaze are my go to seal clubbers :)

  • @ksvp14
    @ksvp14 10 месяцев назад

    Zuiho здорового человека. С торпедоносцами, без всратых мин.

  • @Orimedis
    @Orimedis 8 лет назад +4

    you were lucky that you managed to stike enemy CV... if he wasnt such a potato the game would be much harder...and if you getting 2 CVs your pretty much fucked because most of the time your other CV is a potato...and there is a high chanze to get a BOUGE with a fighter set up..then your fuck too.. i mean playing a game where you can do what ever you want because there is no force that can sop you (enemy CV) etc fakes the result... ofc this is no hate to you or something like that.. its just not the average CV game.. so you can not really expact such results..maybe in one of 10 games..none then less greetings and sorry for my bad english :)

    • @Orimedis
      @Orimedis 8 лет назад

      dude im not mad at all. im a big fan of flamu. i like all videos and also this one... its just constructive criticism from me.. no need to shit talk to me with no arguments !

    • @Stealthassin135
      @Stealthassin135 7 лет назад

      The point of Sealclubbing is that most of the opponents you go up against at those tiers are potatoes.

    •  7 лет назад +1

      He's right a BOGUE with 1 torp 1 fighter full AA u cannot stand a chance, that's the best sealclubber. Lots of reserves, garanteed Air superiority against Zuhio, ur Torp bombers can hit DD cos of the spread not the shitty japanies ones, cruisers 1 strike, and u have also lots of reserves for the torp planes. Your CV has like 65 AA rating untouchable. I will kill a Zuhio any time. Bouge AS setup cannot do dmg not a big threat.
      And u cannot snipe a Bogue full AA - this is a bullshit. Goes like this against the shitty Zuhio:
      Devastating Strike - Devastating Strike - Devastating Strike - Clear sky - Devastating Strike - maybe Kraken but usually time out.

  • @callumhutton
    @callumhutton 8 лет назад

    The Best Sealclubber has to be the gremyashchy

  • @cedric1731
    @cedric1731 2 года назад

    I with cvs to be like this again :(

  • @tibchy144
    @tibchy144 7 лет назад

    bogue fighters will annihilate zuiho fighters, squadron of bogue will kill squadron of zuiho without losing single fighter, most of torp and bomber auto attacks will miss even battleships

  • @Warmaker01
    @Warmaker01 8 лет назад

    Stryke4Lyfe

  • @1337Jogi
    @1337Jogi 8 лет назад

    Disagree with you.
    It maybe a good ship if you have luck but absolutely terrible if you havent.
    You get frequently matched up against Bogue which shuts you down completely due to powerfull fighters.
    My games are like 60% pretty good and 40% very very bad - no real in between.
    I mean bad like

  • @fauzanramadhan1
    @fauzanramadhan1 8 лет назад

    my best sealclubber is Fuso , but how nice you can pIay cv perfect , i can't pIay cv good Iike you bro

  • @sethsawesome1
    @sethsawesome1 8 лет назад

    i love you

  •  8 лет назад +1

    "repair" , "repair" , "repair"...
    The word you're looking for is damage controll.

    • @Flamuu
      @Flamuu  8 лет назад +14

      Which repairs flooding, fires and broken modules. It's almost as if I expect people to understand what I mean.

    •  8 лет назад

      +Flamu I understood. I just wanted to help you improve your content.

    • @kinghosed4261
      @kinghosed4261 8 лет назад +11

      As a native English speaker, I can attest that Flamu has no need to change his speech patterns. His English is nearly perfect in both vocabulary and context. I can only wish that more of the people around me spoke English as well as he does.

    •  8 лет назад

      +King Hosed Just wanted to help. Wont happen again...

    • @Kornologe1313
      @Kornologe1313 8 лет назад +2

      your kitten vid is cute though

  • @习近平-m5l
    @习近平-m5l 8 лет назад

    game ll be easier is you got your 5skills commander

    • @wen87n
      @wen87n 8 лет назад +1

      领导您好,今天有空上youtube关心航母军事啊