What I find interesting that doesnt get discussed enough is that they resisted the urge to make Felix the snarky "hero" who puts Ralph down. In the inciting appartment scene that while the other npc residents are belittling Ralph, Felix is trying to mediate saying "lets just eat the cake". The writers could have very easily fallen for the trope of the "villain" with a heart of gold opposed by the "hero" with a heart of ice, but they didn't. Felix is not only a hero in title, but is a legitimately good guy.
At the same time I like how Felix is *only* trying to moderate, which makes it feel like 1, this kind of conversation has happened before and 2, he doesn't actually care about anything Ralph is saying. The man is content to ignore Ralph's obvious distress because even subconsciously the "friendly good guy" Felix saw Ralph as lesser for being the villain character.
@@NikkiBudders I guess Felix sees Ralphs distress about being lonely and outcasted by the Nicelanders to a certain extent, but he just tried to navigate the situation by avoiding any type of tension, negativity or conflict, because he is written as this "Happy Vibes Only" Type of guy. That's why he doesn't tell Ralph or Gene to leave or to shut up, but tries to steer to conversation to another topic, like "Why don't we just eat the cake". I mean that's also why Felix and Calhouns relationship is interesting, they are both polar opposites, he's very positive, playful, optimistic, kinda scared and avoids straight confrontations, while she's very serious, tough, strict and she literally has to lead troops into battle fields.
You have to admit that Ralph didn’t approach this poorly. He wasn’t invited to the party of his game where he is one of two important people. He started by saying he wanted to be on top of the cake with everyone else. He was told that he didn’t belong and when things got heated he took his anger out on the cake. Not the people. Given the situation he was treated unfairly from the start. He was excluded. When he asked to join celebration of both the anniversary and the handing of awards he got denied. To live in a place where nobody likes you because of your job. It must have been difficult Gene also touched Ralph which escalated the situation.
yea, the Nicelanders (and Felix to a certain extend) were massive turds to Ralph. "You are bad guy, but that doesn't mean you are bad guy?" -- thats not what the Nicelanders thought of Ralph. They didn't like him ingame, they didn't like him after the game.
Yes. The issue for Ralph was never his function in game, it was how he was treated after hours. For a real world parallel, the Nicelanders are all those people who sent hate mail and death threats to Jack Gleeson because of his portrayal of Joffrey. They are unable to distinguish between the person and the job. In the case of the Nicelanders, it is also a refusal to recognize that what Ralph does in game is equally important to what Felix does. You need both for the game to function.
It's definitely good that Ralph didn't take out his anger on the people, but smashing the cake is technically still an act of violence that scares people and makes them stop listening. He was definitely pushed into it, and you feel for him much more than the Nicelanders, but taking his anger out in that way still wasn't healthy or productive.
If you think about it, Gene is a really interesting character. He's not the "good guy", that's Felix. And he's not the "bad guy", that's Ralph. He uses his privilege to talk down to Ralph even though he personally has never done anything to help Felix or be a hero. Even when Felix tries to intervene between Ralph and Gene arguing, Gene can't help but ignore the actual hero to make his point. And unfortunately there a lot of people just like Gene, who look own on others and label them as "bad guys" to justify the bad things that happen to them. Even when true heroes try to tell them there is a better way and all they have to do is swallow their pride, they ignore them.
The falling scene is so moving because in the moments before Ralph thought he was about to die, he clings onto the fact that, in the eyes of that little girl, he’s a hero.
In the scene were Ralph smashes Vanellope's car, I'm surprised you guys cut it off before she said, "You really are a bad guy." As you said, this is the person who has shown him the most love/trust/support he's ever known, and now even *she* is telling him the one thing he has heard all of his life. What choice does he have but to believe it? I think hearing those sorts of things from the people who mean the most to you hurts the most.
venelopi is a narcisist maniplator that is using Ralph, and he was subconciously truing to break out of her manipulation.She is a creepy caracteer to show to kibs in theathers.OMg
I think what always astounded me about Ralph is that he never had any ill will towards Felix. Sure, he was probably jealous of his status and that he was beloved by everyone in their game, but all Ralph really wanted was to celebrate their accomplishments side-by-side. Ralph wanted to be seen as an equal to Felix, because without these two, Fix-It Felix wouldn't be the same. I think Felix would've vouched to have Ralph be celebrated with him, but social pressure and his privileges keeps him blinded from seeing Ralph's struggles. I always liked that Felix was never a jerk or narcissist, just woefully ignorant, but also compassionate.
I like that too! Little details like in Ralph's victory fantasy, him taking Felix' place at the top of the cake but Felix' at the same time NOT being in Ralph old place in the dirt. The one who is villainized there is Gene because THEY have the bad relationship. Ralph just wants to have what Felix has but that didnt manifest itself by Ralph also wanting that Felix is stuck with what Ralph himself has to endure now. Thats the person who is actually awful to him.
If you think of the symbolism of marginalized identities that runs throughout the movie, “being a bad guy” is a metaphor for the imposed stereotypes and implicit biases people aim at marginalized groups. Gene represents the kind of person who is openly and blatantly biased toward those groups (i.e. a racist or homophobe). Felix however represents the privileged people who don’t critically challenge the world around him. He’s not intentionally prejudiced, he’s just experiencing immense privilege and so he is completely blind to marginalized people’s realities. He is fortunate enough to get this experience that allows him to challenge his passive acceptance of the status quo. So Felix is able to grow and realize he needs to take action. The whole plot line has always felt like a call to action to those with the most power who have never considered what their allyship could mean to marginalized people.
I love this movie. The scene where Ralph breaks Vanellopes' cart gets me every time. He's doing it to protect her, but from her perspective, her first and only friend is breaking her trust doing exactly what those racers did earlier in the movie. Also, this movie, imo had the best disney villain plot twist ever.
He's breaking but only the kart, but he's breaking her heart during that scene. And Ralph is also breaking his own heart. He thinks he's doing the right thing to protect Venellope, but he's hating every second of it.
Also how it's shot almost like a murder scene in movies, where it cuts to her screaming and her reaction instead of the initial breaking of the car, that's honestly what gets me the most
The way King Candy manipulates people is really great. He knew that Ralph’s main goal is to show everyone he can be a hero, and so he gave him the mission to do something for the greater good. That whole aspect of doing whats right, no matter what, is what is portrayed as heroic, and the writers knew that. He is such a SMART villain, and I absolutely love him for that
In my opinion, this was the best written scene! This manipulation tactic is genius because it wasn't too far-fetched. King Candy used logic, facts and half-truths that could hardly be argued against. There was a possible scenario that the game would be shut down if a character like Vanellope showed glitches during the race. Perhaps people would think the game is broken. Would it really be the best idea to gamble with the lives of all the Candy Crush residents? This actually had me thinking if Ralph and Vanellope were really in the right here.
Jean's biggest issue is that he couldn't separate work from reality. Everybody in WRECK-IT-RALPH the arcade game has a job/role to play and once the arcade is closed everyone drops the act. Except Jean. He chooses to believe just because Ralph's job is to be the villain, that he is ALWAYS a villain. Jean almost screwed over everyone because he refused to clock out at 5:30pm.
Finally, someone calls out Jean! Everyone puts all the blame for the game almost being unplugged on Ralph (which isn’t fully wrong) but Jean is responsible too!! He was a pompous asshole to Ralph and never once stopped to consider his feelings and instead stubbornly view him as the mindless “bad guy” brute. To make things worse, he even gaslights Ralph into believing everything was his fault only when Ralph comes back to the penthouse with the medal. Like sir….dont act like you didn’t play a role in this yourself!!!
@@さくら-l8t Relationships are give and take. Even work relationships need to be give and take; a good team supports each other, and does good work. Felix, Gene, and the rest of the Nicelanders, only ever took from Ralph, and Ralph only ever gave. There's no reciprocation for Ralph doing his job, worse he was berated, punished, and made to feel bad, for it. But still he just pushed through it. So the whole relationship between Ralph and the rest of the residents has been toxic to Ralph, the entire time. He's actually never been the bad guy, he's always been the most giving person in his game, and the victim. That is, until he reached his breaking point and decided to stand up for himself and ask for the respect he deserves. It also shows both an active (Gene) and a passive (Felix/Others) form of abuse. Gene is actively putting Ralph down, and making him into a villain. He clearly has influence, and is using it to demonize Ralph and keep the others against him, which is quite obviously and visibly controlling and abusive. Felix on the other hand, very much *is* a nice guy who is well intentioned, but he only ever tries to defuse the situation and return to the status quo. He doesn't dislike Ralph like Gene does, but he still lacked empathy for Ralph. "Let's just eat the cake" is brushing everyone's feelings aside and trying to distract from the problem, a band-aid to get through the night(and a problem his hammer doesn't fix so he's clueless). He doesn't want the argument, but still, knowingly or not, refuses to see Ralph's perspective. He arguably has the most influence, the most power to affect change in his community. He could have used that to help Ralph and everyone else get along, by sticking up for Ralph and showing some support, and convincing others to give him a shot. Instead he pushes to maintain control, and puts himself, Gene, and the other Nicelanders before Ralph as usual. He doesn't really take Ralphs perspective until later in the movie, when it's forced onto him. As nice as he appears, or actually is, he was still working exclusively to maintain control over Ralph, and make things go back to what he knows to be normal, which we know is great for everyone but Ralph. I think it's important to recognize that good people who do nice things can still cause harm to others without even realizing it. That abusers, aren't necessarily choosing abuse. Even Gene isn't mean for no reason. To him, Ralph just wrecks his house and everyone else's house everyday. He can't disconnect from work hours, he's played the victim long enough to believe it, just like Ralph has been made to believe he's the villain, and can't see Ralph is only doing his job. He thinks he's standing up for himself, that he and the others need to stand up for themselves against this monster. His feelings aren't invalid, even though he's lacking in empathy and understanding. And we know Felix as a person would never choose to do so much harm to anyone, even Ralph. But his actions we're still hurting Ralph as if he was. And if you make someone feel like the bad guy all the time, they will start to believe it. They only have themselves to blame for Ralph growing to resent them, that's all they ever saw him doing anyway. The entire conflict of this movie could have been avoided with just a tiny hint of respect for Ralph and self-reflection from his peers. "Just because you are 'bad guy' (and told you are the bad guy, treated like the bad guy, made to feel like the bad guy, made to think there is nothing else to your character than to be the bad guy) doesn't mean you are 'bad' guy."
Fun fact: when they showed Nintendo how Bowser was originally holding his tea, they ended up going "No, Bowser would hold his tea like _this_ " and demonstrated After that, they worked with Nintendo to get it perfect
Likewise originally Taizo Hori (the main character of Dig Dug) was supposed to be the "unplugged" characters. But Namco told the writers that would never happen because Taizo and the other Dig Dug characters have a large extended family in other Namco titles that would immediately take them in. So that part was given to Q*Bert instead.
I believe this. When Nintendo lets other people play ball with their property. . .they tend to let people have fun with it. . .and yet still have a hand in the product.
I would love to see the scared faces of the Disney employees getting an email from Nintendo saying they got something very wrong about bowser only to find out they just animated him holding a teacup wrong. 😂
I like how the movie calls Felix out as being part of the problem too. He may not be actively participating in Ralph’s bullying but he’s not taking a firm stance in stopping it either because he’s either too blind or too stupid to see how negatively this has affected Ralph. But to his credit, Felix does eventually experience a lot of what Ralph has been feeling and does make amends as a result of realizing how much it sucks to feel like that on a daily basis.
I mean at the beginning they weren't really friends they were barely associates who didn't really know each other as people. Similar to how most people would view public service workers or even just familiar strangers. You could see somebody every day and never talk to them and never know their struggles. And why would you most people don't want to know other people's struggles when they have enough in their own lives or if they don't they don't want to be burdened by being told that especially from a stranger or somebody you'd have no reason to talk to. The fact that Felix doesn't necessarily know there's a problem with how Ralph at the beginning doesn't really make him blind or stupid. They just don't hang out with the same friend group. But Felix of a very well-meaning guy. Let's say assume that the party invite isn't the first time they've ever spoken to each other but is maybe the first time they've ever had a slightly longer conversation that isn't just some pleasantries like you'd say to somebody you kind of new in the school hallway. somebody opens the door to see Ralph there and immediately runs back inside panicking and Felix's first reaction is not fear not anger but being nice. He doesn't the film Ralph is there for anything nefarious and goes outside to talk to him rationally. Which is already showing way more perspective than any other nicelander. Now they have some unpleasant truth here and then Ralph is the one to shift the conversation about his self and make Felix take some perspective. He kind of plays on Felix's goodguys sentiment and it works immediately, only have to do with make a flight implication and Felix's immediately inviting him into the party for cake. And then immediately defend Ralph when the others questioned his decision to let him in by quickly reassuring them that nothing is wrong. Event in the cake scene while he immediately doesn't immediately stand up for around he is trying to mediate the situation which doesn't work because he's not trying to force a compromise was just trying to make them both ignore there points which nobody's going to want to do admittedly he probably doesn't know much about conflict so I can understand why he did this. Later he's the first one to worry about Ralph when he's not showing up and I don't know if it's necessarily specifically for the game the others are worried about the game but I think he's worried about Ralph given that he immediately volunteers to go find Ralph as soon as you find out where was Ralph went which could have gotten him actually killed for reals this time. Image find out back to the party he was defending rail fencing that rounded mean any harm after Ralph had literally just kill him, probably because he was aware it was an accident. No he shows his privilege a little in the prison scene when he finally gets to talk to Ralph again but in his defense well his altered perspective is due to privilege I still think it is an older perspective as I think Felix realizes that they are game stops after the arcade closes and I don't think Ralph necessarily realize that. I don't think Felix realized but Ralph was as he said being rejected and treated like a criminal because from his perspective the game's over and sprouts choice to not hang out with them. The others were afraid of Ralph but Felix never was I bet if Ralph would come over other times before this Felix would have welcomed him immediately. Philly reason he didn't realize anything was wrong with Ralph's is that to a degree of Ralph never really showed there was anything wrong it's been 30 years and he's haven't told anybody that he wants to come to their parties. And he hasn't told them for a similar reason then he wasn't honest with vanelope. Similar to how he knows Penelope doesn't like can candy so we didn't tell her about it he knows that the other nice Landers are afraid of him so he assumed they'll reject him so he doesn't hang out with them. At the party earlier even though he felt like he had the right to be there he never actually asked to come in he manipulated Felix into inviting him in then accepted the invitation. I'm not victim-blaming Ralph here I'm just pointing out that his fear holds him back in other situations as well not just what the movie shows us. And that well Felix's privileged he's not an idiot or oblivious, he took Ralph perspective instantly every time as soon as he was told he instantly understood. when Ralph said that he felt rejected and treated like a criminal all the time Felix didn't defend the knife Landers he instantly understood how I felt and probably why he would feel that way and immediately decided to help him. Honestly I love their interaction with each other as a prove they're both really good guys. Felix is open for real from the very beginning and while he does judge him of Ralph actions he doesn't judge round for who he is or what he does with in the game and is instantly ready to accept him as soon as he gets a chance to. While Ralph is never once jealous angry or antagonistic toward Felix for being the hero and being beloved by everybody. They are both way better at realizing that it's they shouldn't judge each other for who they are within the game and way more mature than Jean could ever be. Their dynamic isn't antagonist akin the slightest and that's really really unique for a show like this.
It perfectly encapsulates WHY adversity matters. Often, people struggle to empathize with people unless they've experienced some similar adversity. If people could just practice empathy more, instead of being so quick to judge, this world would be a more beautiful place.
@@lahlybird895This feels like a really long winded way of saying “no, not really!” and then really doing that thing, IE whether intentionally or not shifting blame of Felix and using the excuse of him not wanting to be burdened with extra baggage when in reality that’s an awful way to look at morally sound relationships. You don’t choose to help people because it’s emotionally convenient for you like some kind of monetary transaction? It just seems like your using the thin veneer of therapy speak and warm platitudes as a crqutchel to shift scales and beat a narrative into shape where Ralph is actually more responsible for the situation as it stands then he really is and Felix is “i’m not saying he ought not to be held to account, but cricumstancesss and he cant help ittt”
@@anagonyaowusu3119 so are you saying that I'm saying Felix if it isn't here or you saying that I'm saying he's emotionally cold or are you saying both and ask you if I think that emotional distance is innocence? To clarify I don't think Felix is emotionally cold and I think it's quite the opposite. Which is actually why I disagreed with the idea that he was too ignorant or blind to realize there was a problem before. Tuco him blind or stupid if I think unfair to the situation and to his character as a person. If they would imply that he knew there was a problem with Ralph and didn't do anything or that he didn't know there was a problem but also wouldn't have helped if he did know and I don't think either those are fair because well he didn't know there was a problem as soon as he discovered there was a problem he was instantly automatically ready to help and help as much as he could. And I think the only reason he did realize this problem before with just due to limited interaction do to him spending most of his time with his friends add Ralph spending most of his time in other places. I think that Felix didn't realize there's a problem with Ralph do two different social networks and dude his privilege as we gave hero. But it's not because he's stupid it's just because they have different food groups and hang out in different circles and places. What was Ashlee displayed in the movie The moment Felix found out there's a problem with Ralph at all he was instantly ready to help purely out of kindness and not for any other reason. If Felix did hang out with tri if he was on his own further down like Hubert here probably know there was a problem with route sooner. I think that Felix maybe part of the problem in the sense that he has bad friends and that is separated from Ralph, but I do not think it's entirely fair to blame him as the entire problem. Just because he's bi penthouse celebrity doesn't mean he has any control over the behavior of the other nicelanders. Andy would also suggest that he was fully aware there was a problem with Ralph and not help him or that he didn't know there was ever a problem with Ralph at all which is I think more likely but I don't think that makes him stupid. You're not stupid if you don't know the problems of everybody near you. I believe it's Ralph had ever tried to become part of the friend group earlier Felix would have tried to do that would have tried to accept it and let him in. Again I draw back to the additional conflict over the party when he was first vitagraph inside. If Felix really at fault for not extending a party invitation to Ralph when Ralph pretends he wasn't interested in the first place. No Felix is at fault for how he handled the Cake fight. He was trying to defuse the situation and not cause conflict but nobody really like to have a situation diffuse for there in the middle of an argument, is that only irritate people which is why the conflict only escalated from there despite Felix trying to settle it down. But Felix did not cause this problem in the slightest. Ralph is the one who started the feeding the first place and Gene is the one who escalated it after Felix tried to calm them down. Jay dizzy also the one who is being actively rude to Ralph and continue to push him even after he showed fights and he was starting to get angry. Now Felix could have told you to knock it off but that may or may not have stopped Jean from being antagonistic. So well it's true Felix Miss handle the situation V situation itself is not his fault. If Jean had pushed Ralph it would not have happened. If Ralph had it made a big feed about the cake decorating in the first place it might not have happened so I think Gene is more involved here than Ralph was with Ralph was trying to explain what he wanted in a rather subtle way rather than just say it out loud which is still a problem but he wasn't being mean about it. So the real problem in this feed is Jean it is not Felix. No you could say Felix is at fault for not going to find Ralph suitor after the party and that would may actually be valid if you're the host of a party and somebody you invited to it it storms off in a bad mood it may be a good idea to go and check on them. If Felix had gone to talk to Ralph afterward they probably would have had some healthy communication like they did later the jail cell and the full movie made ever have happened. at the same time without Felix's power is a magic hammer that fixes things at not mind reading. At this point he does not know that the fight over the cake was way more personal for Ralph and it went to everybody else. He does know that Ralph essentially made a rash declaration, and while he may have acted all that he took it upon himself to make sure that nobody believed Ralph was serious. So the fault may be on Felix for believing Jean at the same time itself adjust. Jean for being dismissive of Ralph completely and tried to convince everybody else not to believe in Ralph's in the slightest. You absolutely can't blame Felix for this though I therefore listening to Jean or for not following up whether he believed Jean or not. And if you want to say that that him believing cheated this circumstance is what qualifies him for being glide for not seeing how Ralph really felt or stupid for believing Jean in the first place you absolutely can. At the same time though I think risking your own life just to go and talk to somebody and try to smooth over the situation since more about who you are as a character that you maybe Miss handling a party that went wrong. And at the same time I do believe his comments and they printed selfeed are necessarily an indication of him being stupid or blind but more of the fact that he's frustrated having to deal with something he's never had to deal with before and it was just a moment of anger spoken out and while he didn't know Ralph was as much of a victim at the time that is once again not necessarily on him for not knowing. I also do with Ralph egg that if it's every day of his life with Felix is going through it necessarily the same thing they did go through very different things they've both experienced rejection but different types and while Rome was kind of feared he was never actually locked up in a jail cell which is why I believe it makes sense or feel like to say that lie that Ralph didn't necessarily know how this felt being rejected and treated like a criminal like Felix had been recently. After all Feliks didn't reject Ralph, so why would Ralph feel rejected. He knows be nice Landers were afraid of Ralph, but they all listen to Felix with Felix told them to let Ralph come in. And just because Ralph doesn't hang out with them doesn't mean he's treated necessarily like a criminal, at least not as far as Felix is concerned about since he was actually arrested just an association would have Ralph and actually thrown in jail. I think it worked Felix with a little naive for assuming that because he's based around everybody else is but I don't think blind or stupid applies. Edgy diz the real problem here. Felix Felix is a great guy who's always trying to be accepting an open towards Ralph it's the very beginning and immediately understood his perspective as soon as Ralph explained himself.
There's more to the Bad Guy affirmation coming back at the end than just what Alan said about its meaning being changed. The thing is, if you recall, Ralph never actually said it with the other bad guys at the start of the film, he just stood there with an empty look on his face, unhappy, unfulfilled, even amongst peers. He only truly says it at the end of the movie when he decides to be a hero by being a bad guy and losing. That signals not just his acceptance of his place in the world, but realized understanding of his role to the people around him, that being someone who sacrifices for them, whether it be as the villain of a game, or the hero to Venelope.
That reading is potentially problematic, and that's OK. I think it is very important that Venelope safes him in the end. We don't need to see 'bad guys' sacrifice themselves, we need to see people form connections and communities and lift each other up. That's just my opinion, it probably has flaws as well. ❤
Personally I never thought the meaning changed. I think that the lesson he learned here if the lessons they were trying to teach him from the very beginning but they weren't good at explaining it or he just didnt internalize it correctly until now. The other game villains were never saying it's good to be bad they were saying that just because they're the bad guys in their games doesn't mean they have to be bad people. And that they need to be the bad guy in their games but that shouldn't affect who they are as people. Ze what's his name isn't saying that he have to suck it up and be the bad guy because his game need some to you and that's all he has to be he's saying that he has to perform the role for the game that doesn't have to be who he is outside of it or have anything to do with his life other than that. I'm Presley believe that's what this entire support group is about helping video game bad guys realize they aren't bad people just because the game tells them they are and coming to love themselves for who they are and what they can do and all of that. It's change from funny to solum, but it is the exact same meaning from the very beginning this is exactly what it was always meant to mean. It's the story of self-acceptance. I'm me and that's good I will never be something else and that's not bad there's no one I'd rather be than me
Hearing that little impromptu talk about ADHD and finding out both of the internet dad's have it absolutely healed me. Academic stress is killing my theatre heart but that made it so much better.
Hang in there. There's a plethora of methods to work through schoolword procrastination. I haven't found one that works _consistently_ yet, but I've found that bouncing between them tends to get me through the tough weeks.
Cheers to that, mate. Have you heard the song ‘Cycle’ by Derivakat (I think that’s the correct spelling?). Because while it’s made about media creation, it also speaks to me about the ADHD cycle of procrastination and ‘productivity rush.’
For a lot of people who think their character flaw is “I’m not confident enough”, it can be redirected really well into “I understand how someone else may not feel like they’re enough”. Feelings of self worth and happiness can grow so fast when we’re a rock for someone else. Because you can make a difference for someone who’s hurting.
You've put into words something ive felt for most of my older teen to adult life, my childhood up to about 15, was awfully shit, like terrible, it wasn't really anyone's fault it just sucked cuz it sucked. However once I got myself away from that situation, and was able to start pulling myself together and grow as a person, I found I'd meet people who were currently dealing with some of the situations I did, and I felt a kinship with them that let me kinda help teach some of them how to put up with the bullshit that I had, how to cope and survive, and I got to see them grow and become capable people who could stand up to almost any challenge, one of them recently moved out of their parents house, and got away from all the problems caused by the abuse they put up with, and I'm really proud of her for coming so far yk, and I'm proud of myself for doing the same ig.
@@chaoticdetectivepeach You deserve to be proud of yourself for that one. Your influence and kindness gave someone the courage to make a scary change in her life. It speaks to who you are as a person, and from one stranger to another? I’m proud of you, too.
@@MatiasGRivera Thanks dude, but I'm proud of myself for making the changes she made myself, I think I honestly had very little to do with her making the change herself, she was already crazy tough when I met her
one of my favourite little details about this movie is that Felix goes from calling Ralph his colleauge, then his friend, and at the end of the film he refers to Ralph as his brother, which is so incredibly sweet
Yes spot-on! Love Felix I noticed the progression back when I first saw the movie in theaters, and when he called out "Ralph! You comin', brother?" from Calhoun's shuttle, I smiled the biggest smile
The scene where Ralph wrecks the racer broke my heart. The animators did a perfect job of demonstrating Ralph's complex feelings. Ralph's defining moment is when he finally accepts not only who he is - a bad guy in the game, but a good guy overall. Once he does that, he achieves full acceptance from the other characters of his game.
I'm pretty sure that that scene is designed to wreck the viewer. I saw it in theaters, and it was totally silent in the audience during that scene... except for maybe sniffles.
I know! Especially since it was such a sweet moment when he and Vanellope worked on the go-cart together. It's heartbreaking cause he feels that destroying it is the only way to protect her. There's been a few times when I've watched this movie and I've shut my eyes for that scene cause it's so sad and hard to watch, but so well done.
This movie was super cathartic for me. I was bullied relentlessly when I was in school because of the symptoms of my autism. After a few years of this with no end in sight I had grown into a malicious and spiteful person, but this movie really spoke to me because anger is a mask for some other emotion.
@@janusn9 Not just fear but sadness and disgust as well. For example there was a time when I wanted to be friends with everyone around me, but the pain and sadness I was feeling as a result of being bullied and watching people just stand by and let it happen eventually gave way to anger. All emotions have their place though including anger because sometimes that anger is fully justified.
I appreciate how Ralph's actions illustrate his core strength is not destruction but his ability to project empathy. Remember, even when convicted, he still demonstrates more compassion than the "hero" of his game. Note, Fix-It Felix is friendly yet limited due to a one-game perspective. He only goes to help Ralph when it is convenient for his game. Meanwhile, despite an identity crisis, Ralph demonstrates his core strength; when allowed to be "a hero," he gives the cherries to Cubert as an unconditional gesture of kindness, showing how, regardless of labels, he is more of a hero than his peers give him credit for. This makes the ending so satisfying; when confronted with the same problems, Ralph chooses to be a force for good rather than stop when his needs are met, demonstrated through adopting the various gameless arcade members.
That said, Felix happens to be the only one to invite Ralph to the party and the one to leave his game to search for Ralph. So we should give him much credit for that.
To me the cake scene is such genius because it is the perfect metaphor for how Ralph is seen and is treated •Thrown in the mud like a pile of trash, it's no wonder he hates chocolate as well, cuz it looks exactly the same color as mud •How Felix was so oblivious to Ralph's mistreatment because he was so forcefully rewarded by the community •And how every Nicelander, including Gene see Ralph as a true villain, even though it's only his role to PLAY the villain
I think there's something to be said about Felix and privilege. Felix wasn't a mean and rude person, but he didn't see how badly Ralph was being treated because his Good Guy Privilege kept him from personally experiencing how bad guys are treated. When his Good Guy Privilege is stripped away (both in the initial rejection by Calhoun and by being imprisoned in the Fungeon), he finally understands. The blinders are removed and he sees what Ralph dealt with every day of his life. We all have certain privileges that we live with. It can be hard to see past them to truly see how people without them suffer. However, it's important to keep our privileges in mind and help those without them.
Felix overall was just a very conflict-averse person, so when caught up in one his immediate reaction was to just quickly try to mediate it towards a quick stop without really taking the time to understand what it was about as long as he could get the immediate yelling to end.
At the end when he and Vanelope land in the chocolate puddle, he’s like “It’s chocolate. I LOVE CHOCOLATE” That could be the movies way of saying Ralph’s acceptance of himself
Another scene I like that shows how differences can be strengths or weaknesses depending on context is when Felix tries to break the prison bars but only makes them thicker and he yells, "Why must I fix everything I touch???"
@@lahlybird895yep, it's something most people don't understand Problems scale, sure those richer will have less problems concerning their survival, but it's still a problem
It's something like the double edge of physical beauty. Many people would outright deny the negative side of being beautiful, but there are some real complications of being too beautiful or too coveted.
@@anadaere6861 yup. It drives me absolutely mad when people just decide that what you have money that if your problems matter and they're all insignificant and not real problems and that the only people who deserve to have their problems batter or poor people in countries other than ours. Like yeah rich people are starving but at the same time they have way more social pressure to deal with and they have to make sure they stay rich and don't lose all their money in stupid ways and they get to deal with all kinds of stuff like fake relationship who are only hanging out with that because they want their money and stuff like that and some of them are so rich that other people that they're supposed to be close to her kind of distant like parents who send their kids off to boarding school that never see them. Not to mention there still at as much risk for mental health illness is anybody else after all white people say money can't buy happiness. Bad if they also happen to be famous so they have to deal with that kind of problem the lack of privacy and the over scrutiny by Fraser who are going to decide your morality based on what they see you eat for dinner. Are princess movies even like people act like because she's a princess that none of her problems batter and yet she's got as much rules to follow as anybody else and she's also probably going to be married off to somebody and everybody's like will knows our problems your princess you could do whatever you want you can change the laws if you wanted to but no she can't it's not that easy and real-life rich people have to deal with that to expectations or perfection rules all that having to meet up with what people think you need to be good at. The lack of personal freedom isn't something the movies made up and neither is arranged marriages for that matter. I think the reason people don't want to admit that rich people have problems is because they are kind of jealous and think that if they were their situation they would have been complaining because their life is still better than the person in question. But I bet they wouldn't like it if somebody in a worthwhile situation started doing the same thing to them
Why is everybody can tearing this to a nurodivergence? It's a very physical disability I am thinking of it of more like narcolepsy or something a physical condition that can sometimes cause you to have a physical reaction that you weren't planning on that can make things difficult for you But then again I suppose we're all going to look for our own type of disabilities I'm a physically disabled person first and a neurodivergent person s if at all although admittedly my disability is being blind not muscle spasms or seizures or anyting physicaly uncontrollable other than nystagmus
@@missylks1239 And to be fair, the body/brain dichotomy is a myth. Your brain is attached to the rest of your body. It's simply another very important organ. You think, feel, react, and process with your entire nervous system. My physical health affects my brain and my mental health affects my body.
Oof, the cart smashing scene hits me every time; I grew up in a house with someone who had a lot of anger and would, in addition to physically assaulting members of the house, would smash, tear, or shatter personal belongings in fits of rage. Sarah Silverman’s scream during this scene chills me to the bone every time-I’ve felt that abject horror at watching something you cherish get smashed to pieces. It’s not because of materialistic concern, it’s about boundaries and the trust that gets broken when someone doesn’t respect yours.
Johnathon summed up the problem in seven words. "Not just the role but the outcome" we see at the end he is happy to continue to play the role of the bad guy he just wants how he is treated to reflect who he is and his contributions to the game. Although I am surprised that he didn't comment on Ralph's good setting of boundaries when he and Vanelope are in the tree and she starts mockingly repeating what he says. He simply informs her that her behavior is inappropriate and declines to engage further.
I find it fascinating that Ralph and Turbo both disguised themselves to win races, yet they each have a different relationship with Vanellope. Ralph empathises with her status as a fellow outcast, and she brings out the best in him. Turbo despises Vanellope because as a fellow glitch, she reminds him of everything he hates about himself.
@@yiwoon_cr8she doesn't have a menacing voice in the slightest, he's tiny, he had a funny face and he's not a fighter but Goddamn, he's just realistically evil! looking at him, he doesn't seem like a terrifying villain. It's his acts and motivation that made him terrifying
@@kelseyswanepoel7056 Yes, he stole that from her. Unlike Ralph, Turbo broke the game he inserted himself into. He re-wrote the game code and replaced Vanellope's character, breaking it in the process, hence the glitching.
Head cannon: She’s all glitched out because Turbo took her place and messed with the code and if anyone in Sugar Rush would have empathized with her and help her figure it out, this situation would have been resolved a long time ago.
I love hearing you casually bring up ADHD, I got diagnosed two years into college and its means a lot to see such awesome people talk about it in a positive/neutral way
When you said that part about not choosing our roles in life-- wow. My family and I just recently had that discussion. I feel like I'm the one who has been made to be "the problem" so everyone else can be good. For the first time in years they actually thought it through and realized "wait yeah... we do kind of take our anger out on her" and it was extremely healing. We are going to start family therapy soon since we have a lot to work on, but honestly this show and the talks about scapegoating helped me realize why I always felt like I was hurting people by simply existing.
I'm sorry you've had to live with that feeling, but I'm glad that your family realized they were wrong and that you'll be going to therapy together. Best of luck to you, I hope things get better
That last moment of “there’s no one I’d rather be than me” makes me tear up. It’s such a good reminder for be of being thankful for who and what I am rather than wishing I was someone else or doing something else.
The last scene is so moving. Realizing that he is about to die, he holds onto the fact that that one little girl thinks he’s a hero, and he thinks that that made it all worth it.
Ralph is one of my favorite non hero character, The way he just wants to be accepted and be something he wanted to be, someone who is not only living for destruction but also to be able to achieve something and be accepted for once.
"The thing about being treated as the bad guy is you start to believe it and start to act accordingly" Beyond true for me. I never found a place in the world for me where my anger wouldn't eventually get the best of me and people would see that part of me over my kindness. The people reacted was always negative because they expect perfection. I was so hated it felt like I was meant to be a bad guy. At a certain point I asked "Maybe I should just stay that way. I'm good at it, so I might as well be the bad guy"
We humans evolved specifically to fit into a pack. We instinctively try to fill whatever "role" the packs assigns us, because the alternative is being expelled from the pack's safety and dying alone. Basically EVERY human will acknowledge that they put on a mask during social interactions, however a lot of the time it's subconscious. Bad guy, good guy, we ALL only get to be our true selves when we're alone, or with those closest loved ones whom we've revealed our true selves to.
Funny, it was my anger that allowed me to interact positively with my peers. Had a minor snap (literally just a death stare), suddenly people wanted to talk with me.
Yes I liked how they said that it can be channelled into something healthy and productive. Not just sports, but for example maybe you can channel that anger into being an activist, fighting for a cause you believe in, trying to right injustice.
That was me growing up. I was so demonized for not liking *girl things* and having a rage that was unladylike(I have BPD) and bullied for trying to be anything OTHER than the freak and bad guy that at some point, I thought: fuck it, they want a bad guy, they're gonna get one and they are gonna regret it. Suddenly, they were shocked and upset and im thinking: This is what you wanted, why act scared now?
This movie always makes me bawl with that last ending line. There’s not a person on earth who can watch this movie and not completely be emotionally moved by it.
THIS is how you make a video game movie, industry! THIS is why we love a good villain, applies to both definitions - Ralph and Turbo THIS is what we want, Disney!
Years ago, Disney had a Sugar Rush game on their website where you could actually play as the individual racers from the movie. I haven't been able to find it again.
I agree, but sadly, Disney never seems willing to commit to these kinds of things. They made the "game within a movie" Space Paranoids from Tron, and put it in arcade machines in their Flynn's Arcade section of Disneyland around when Tron Legacy was coming out, but then just... let it disappear. I think they like to keep things ephemeral partially to take advantage of the FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) but **primarily** for the same reason you don't explain The Noodle Incident: Letting the audience's imagination create something better than you ever could by giving it solid form. If they made a Sugar Rush game, they'd get people complaining about "This character is over/under powered" or "This vehicle has poor stats" or "The handling is awful" or "I can't believe they left out this tiny detail from the movie" or "Why did they change it, it sucks" or "Why did they make it exactly the same, it sucks" or any number of other complaints. By not making it, each person has the ideal in their head, and they're different ideals, and so everyone feels like it'll be the "perfect game".
Wow, this was such an interesting video! As a fan of both Cinema Therapy and Wreck-It Ralph, I couldn't resist clicking on this. It's fascinating to see a therapist's perspective on the psychological aspects of a beloved character like Ralph. Your insights into his self-esteem and identity struggles were spot on, and I love how you related it to real-life experiences. Keep up the great work! Can't wait to see more therapist reacts videos
Yeah this channel is up there with the actual transformation work that is supposed to be required, I'm just trying to say they are what other react channels should strive for
24:15 I remember seeing this scene in the movie theaters and honestly, it made me cry because of how heartfelt and bittersweet his delivery of those lines were.
One thing I really loved about that movie is that the badguys have this little support group because they have a tough job, but that doesn't mean they should suffer, especially not alone. I also like how you can tell Felix feels bad for Ralph its like the difference between someone who is really a good guy and not one who is just a goodguy.
I love the Alan Cry Cam. Whenever it focuses on him too long in ANY remotely emotional scene, we can immediately know he's tearing up haha Love your vulnerability, Movie Dad!
Speaking of which... I think they should do "Miracle in Cell No. 7" (either the original Korean or later Turkish versions) but I can say for me, the Turkish version "got me" 5-6 times... the MOST during a single watch of any movie. The Korean version WOULD have "gotten me" if emotions such as anger didn't interfere with tears, but they do lol.
"the thing about being treated as the bad guy is you start to believe it and act accordingly" reminds me of how parents can treat kids at times. This was the kindling that burnt the bridge between me and my family. I struggled in school when I reached my teens, I had always been a gifted child and I hit a dead end. I have adhd, undiagnosed at the time, but they believe my bad grades in school were an act of rebellion. They gave me punishments constantly, taking away my phone, couldnt watch tv (a family activity) so i was confined to my room all the time. Not amazing for my mental health. Everytime I got a bad grade the punishments just stacked on top of eachother and over time I was just grounded for months. So i gave up, i stopped caring and since grounding didnt work anymore they threatened to take my door away and they made me keep it cracked at all times. All of these punishments and the barrating and comparing to my sibling made me feel like a bad kid. I was not a bad kid. I followed rules, I didnt get in trouble at school, I didnt talk back or argue, I behaved as expected. But after being treated like a bad kid for so long i decided "you know what? I am a bad kid and I'm going to show you exactly what a bad kid looks like" i flunked classes on purpose and almost didnt pass that grade. I lit the match and threw it on our bridge. This spiraled into a bunch more things until my dad decided to pour gasoline all over the fire and kicked me out. Safe to say that bridge is gone. But now i reflect on that and realize sometimes parents give extreme punishments not because they have bad kids and they deserve it but rather because they are bad parents. Dont treat your kid like a bad kid or they will behave accordingly.
@@BamsyOfficially I was never beat but it doesn't mean the threat wasn't there. One of the reasons I left was when my dad and I had gotten into a big fight and I tried to get out of the car because I was scared and he physically grabbed my arm and yanked it. He looked like he was about to physically hurt me. He let go but he acted like I was the one that had forced him to do that. "I haven't yelled for months! I was doing so good not yelling!" Is what he yelled at me instead. I wish they had just beat me rather than mentally torture me and gaslight me into believing I was not being abused and tell me/make me believe I was loved no matter what when in reality the love and support me and my siblings received depended on our ability to conform to what they wanted us to be. It hurt more figuring out on my own that they never really loved me as their child and being lied to and betrayed rather than being outright showed that I was unloved by beating me. That's just my personal feelings. It would have hurt less to leave if I had never thought they loved me in the first place.
This film is seriously underrated. I really connected to Ralph and Vanellope because I’ve been an outcast for most of my life and have gone to great lengths to gain acceptance but realized I was only hurting myself in the process and losing the ability to trust those who have good intentions. I still have flaws but I feel like I’ve grown a lot and I’m glad Disney made characters who are misfits but are still so relatable and loveable
I've been struggling with my autism for a while now. I've been treating it as a character flaw and an obstacle, just the same, because a lot of the time if I'm not masking at home, my family think I'm being outright hostile to them. I think I really needed to watch this video, because it's helping me to put things into perspective, now. Thank you for making the content that you do :)
I have ADHD, but I started hanging out with a friend from one of my classes. I don't think she'd been officially diagnosed with Autism, she suspected it in herself. And I never noticed it much, but she didn't smile a lot. I'm a very smiley person naturally, but for her she just didn't do it a lot in casual conversation. And one day she opened up about how she tends to mask by smiling more often than she normally would, because she said people tend to think she's upset or angry if she's not all smiles. She told me she appreciated that she didn't feel like she had to put on an extra smiley face around me, and that touched me. All that's just to say: You can and will find people you don't have to mask around. That's not necessarily a knock against your family, it's only meant to reassure you that there _are_ people and groups out there that you can be yourself around. You'll find them. Autism isn't a character flaw. With some of the people I've known, especially my brother, for all the complications it's caused, it can be quite a superpower.
This comment reminds me how lucky I am to have a family who accepts what others could perceive as my weird mannerisms. Like sometimes I like to hum out loud when concentrating, or I like to shake objects I have in my hand, usually a toy or a pen. And even tho they might question it, tease me a bit or get annoyed by the loud humming, they don't judge these behaviours as something weird about me or see it as a flaw, but rather just accept them as part of what makes me, _me._ Even if I have to subdue these behaviours when out and about, I can come home always knowing I can fully be myself, which although I don't acknowledge it a lot, is one of the greatest gifts they could give me. I feel like everyone good deserves a place like that.
This movie is neck and neck tied for my favorite movie of all time. The scene where he recites the bad guy mantra and in that moment chooses to accept and love himself, to make his own choices and not worry about seeking the approval of others because he knows who he is, will never not make me tear up
The part about ADHD genuinely made me smile because it feels like this neurodevelopmental disorder has been getting in the way from the moment I found out it was a thing. Since I'm not diagnosed, not many people understand my struggles, and I constantly think it's a disadvantage I hate. But when people say things like it isn't a flaw and that is has its upsides, it does ease my worries and hatred for it. Thank you for addressing that :)
It is absolutely not a flaw! Since being diagnosed three years ago, I have found so much solidarity in so many other people who also have it and they’re some of the most creative, passionate, interesting people i know. So many incredibly talented musicians, actors, artists and activists have ADHD. I think finding a community of other ADHDers can make a big difference. I recommend looking up some of the great things about having it! You’re absolutely not alone ❤
My mother works for a private school principal who is constantly going 30 directions at once, and things are getting done. You don't need a formal diagnosis for social reasons. Just find that zone where you can let yourself go anywhere and everywhere, and see where it takes you. Me? I'm a storyteller.
Honestly, as wonderful as diagnosing can be, even just the understanding can be a great help. I’m diagnosed with ADHD, but I also highly suspect autism. I don’t (yet) have a diagnosis, but learning about the autism traits I display, and starting to live in a way that caters more to those traits, has done soooo much for my own wellbeing. Yes, I’ll have to avoid or do things that neurotypical people don’t understand, but my own mental health has taken a turn for the better. I really encourage you to learn as much about ADHD, as you can. And don’t be discouraged if you don’t fit the most common traits. I don’t, but I fit a lot less common traits, and my diagnosis still stands.
Yeah. What gets me riled up are the people who go one and on about it being a blessing and that "kids with ADHD aren't different, they just need love like everyone else." Uh, *NO.* School was a *nightmare* because I couldn't focus. I *knew* I was smart, but my grades didn't reflect that. I'm also on the spectrum and got teased because I didn't understand how to be *human.* Didn't help any that I wasn't diagnosed until my 20s. People thought I just needed to 'try harder' or 'not be rude.' There *are* good things about these disorders and I wouldn't change who am, mostly, but it's also so damn *hard.*
As a union member, I wanted to say I appreciated the solidarity shown at the start of the video. As a Street Fighter player, I wanted to express how much it's bothered me for over 10 years now that Zangief is portrayed as a villain.
In SF6 he's a good guy. You talk with him, and he informs you how he played the villain intentionally. He was narrative wrestling and they needed a bad guy, so he played his part. He mentions that behind the scenes he was friends with everyone and they all got along. They did him justice in the newest installment.
There is a reason for that. One of the people who worked on the movie never managed to best Zangief in one of the arcade installments. It's kind of why he's the one who says "it doesn't mean you're a bad guy".
The best part of the ending is Ralph staying in group therapy. It could’ve been just a bit, or a framing device, but I love the idea that Ralph didn’t quit because the first session didn’t quite go the way he wanted, or because he got his “happily ever after” and “didn’t need therapy anymore.” I love the implication that you can have everything you think you wanted & needed, but still be in therapy to support others (in group) and because maintaining good mental health is a journey & not a one-stop shop.
One thing I love is that at first Ralph beleives his medel with mean he's have a pent house, pie, fireworks ect. All very materialistic things. However, all he really wanted was to ve respected and feel valued. By the end he has friends, comfort, gets to be bestman at Felix's wedding and even teaches himself that he needs the therapy that Badanon gives him. He makes changes in of himself just as much as he gets people the change their opinions on him
Would you two ever consider reacting to Nightmare before Christmas for like a Halloween episode? Maybe you could analyze Jack Skelington's depression and hatred of the repetition and wanting a change in environment.
I saw this movie in theatre with my daughter: we both cried ! When she was 2-3 , she started to say little lies that didn't really matter, but I explained to her that relations are ladders that you climb by showing you are honest and thrustworty. If you lie , if you hurt someone, you slide and it's harder to climb back up .
I know it's a weird thing to relate to a character about but Venellope's voice made me feel a lot better about my own. I've always had a very unique, raspy, and squeaky voice like hers and tbh for a while when I was a kid I felt weird about it and tried to make it sound "normal" on purpose. No one made fun of me for it but *I* had trouble accepting it. And then this movie came out when I was like 9 or 10. And I really liked and related to V, and her unique, raspy, and squeaky voice made me feel better about mine. And then I hit puberty and my voice got strangely deep for someone born as a girl. Not a lie, I'm actually a low mezzo-soprano/alto, if you know anything about voice registers.
I don't think it's weird to relate to a character, I think that's the reason why they make them. I relate to Venellope because I have epilepsy. When I was a kid, fellow students made fun of me and didn't want to go near me. Teachers were scared of me and kicked me out of their classes because they didn't want my seizures to cause problems.
@@anastasia_852 thanks, I guess? Lol I sometimes feel like my voice sounds like gravel in a blender on high but it’s nice to know that people think voices like mine are cool. I do like it, but it’s so unique it’s easy to feel weird about it.
It's definitely hard to push back against a ton of negative voices and try to maintain your sense of self-worth. Everyone deserves one person in their life who would give them a "You're my hero" cookie medal, someone who lets you feel seen.
2:03 already I know I’m going to cry. I related to Ralph so much as the scapegoat in a family full of narcissists. Much like him, I was given the role of bad guy, but deep down I didnt feel like I was a bad guy. Ralph made me feel seen.
I was filled with so much joy when Jonathan mentioned that both he and Allan have ADHD and began to lightly discuss the details of the disorder and how it may be negatively perceived by neurotypical individuals. I am fortunate enough to never have truly experienced stigma regarding my own ADHD, but was instead provided the positive and nurturing environment I required so that I was able to hone my hyperactivity to my academic advantage. I now feel even more connected with this channel than I was before and I'm grateful for it. Please keep up the good work, gentlemen; you are making a difference.
One very important detail about Ralph's character and back story only comes out in a song at the end of the credits. The apartment building is built on land that Ralph owned and that was taken by eminent domain. So just like Vanelope he is dealing with well dressed thieves.
"There is nobody I'd rather be than me" is such a beautiful line, always makes me tear up because for far too long I would rather have been in someone else's shoes when I should have been making my own.
Even though Wreck-It Ralph isn't one of Disney's highly regarded 3D animated films, It's one that I personally enjoy. In fact I always loved how Ralph is relatable because there are lots of people out there who know what it's like to be alone and to be treated like an outcast.
Watching this movie as a kid was a turning point for me. Its one of the first I remember not just enjoying the climax, feeling the worry with the suspense of the climax, but truly connecting and crying during it. I didn't realize it then but it would go on to relate so much to how I feel in my teens and on.
As someone with BPD....this Really resonated. If a villain is all the world will let one be, you really do start to kind of lean into it... Stories like this one; and I think about the Iron Giant a lot in this as well - stories like this are a deep solace. The only thing that can make one feel seen, understood...and encouraged to become their best possible self. Good literature, filmic & written, is just so unbelievably important.
My favorite Disney movie! I love the fact that technically Zangief isn't a "bad guy" but Rich Moore had such trouble beating him as a kids that he added him as one
I had no idea you two had ADHD! That made me really emotional. As a person with ADHD, seeing people like you guys with the same disorder as me makes me feel so comforted and happy 😌
Every video, I enjoy the awesomely insightful commentary, and just adds layers of joy to films I love, but those impersonations at the end! Damn, you guys nail it every time!!
The scene with Ralph destroying the car triggered a memory of my mom doing something similar to art (sketch books) and games I had. In her mind she thought she was doing the right thing and protecting me from the "bad influential things". That's definitely not the way to go about it. Thankfully, my mother and I have a much better relationship now. Communication is key.
The "directing the character flaw" reminds me of when Lava Girl's dealing with trying to find out what she's good for. She says "I am light". Such a moving scene.
@@matityaloran9157 SB & LG is a great idea. And maybe the Spy Kids movies. 🤔 I think focusing mostly on Juni because he goes through a lot in 2 and 3 Just the first three because from what I hear 4 was terrible.
Emotions hit hard when Ralph said she can't be a racer - which was her dream. He said it because of her glitch. Her glitch is considered a disability, a hinderance, something that prevents her from achieving her dream, because she can't control it at this point no matter how hard she tries. She wasn't given the chance to find alternative ways to make her glitch work for her rather than being stuck in a world its disruptive to everyone else. Even though you know you are fully capable of learning, achieving, and fighting to make your dream a reality, you know you can't do that the way everyone else does. Your glitch won't let you. Fighting your glitch to take the same road to success as people without a glitch just hurts you, and when you screw up, you get, "See? I told you. You should have listened to me from the start. You can't do it." I have ADHD, and the way Vanellope is treated because of her glitch - because she's different - resonates with me hard. I wanted to get my pilot license when I was a kid. I wanted to learn how to fly, but no one knew I have ADHD and autism until last year (I'm 42 now). They just thought I was forgetful, spacey, and incapable of remembering complex structures or details. So when I told my dad I wanted to learn how to fly, he said, "No. You can't. You'll get distracted, forget what you're doing, and crash the plan. You can get someone killed." I still want to fly, but with the way pilots are trained, he's right. I looked into it. The curriculum doesn't work for my ADHD. My differently-built brain won't let me make the cut no matter how hard I tried. I'm actually good at flight simulators. My favorite Sega game was X-Wing. It took me a frustratingly long amount of time to destroy the Death Star, but I was able to do it without getting hit by blaster fire once. No one landed a single shot. And the blaster fire was pure RNG. I just needed time. What's horrible is that it makes me feel like a colossal, incapable idiot who always need someone to "help me do it right," or do it for me if I can't do the thing fast enough, or the way they want. This taught me at a very early age that if I couldn't live up to these standards, and I could hand it over to someone else. The thing is, if it's something I'm interested in, I am VERY detail oriented to a perfectionist fault. I'm a good driver. I was able to pull myself out of a spinout on an icy road where I hit an embankment instead of going off into a ditch, threw the car into reverse, and kept driving down before any oncoming traffic came by. It only hit me later on that my reflexes to hit the embankment, and steer into the skid saved my life. Or at least saved me from injury and major car damage. Now if I can just learn how to drift. :) I can do it. I can focus my glitch. I can get this done. I just can't do it using a neurotypical method. I need help, more time, patience, and a different execution strategy. With enough time, patience, some help, and a different strategy, I can control my glitch and make it work for me. This neurotypical world doesn't have the patience or ability to deal with that. Either I live up to their standards and do it their way "the easy way," they say, or I'm a burden to society. I'm broken. If you can't get it done perfectly, quickly, with no mistakes - and do it again the same way - you're considered a failure. The working world - the restaurant world especially where I work as a server - wants this. And if you screw up too many times despite giving it 150% of your effort, you're out. There are so many jobs where the requirements for hire all boil down to, "Neurodivergent people need not apply" without actually saying that, or they'd get in trouble. That's always been the problem. My 'glitch' doesn't work in this world. I'm a creative person. It only works in mine.
I mean, my one friend who has ADHD (From what I remember, but a lot of people in my friend group are neurodivergent, including me, so it's hard to remember who has what sometimes) but he's been training to become a pilot. Think he's almost complete with the course too, though I'm just not sure what it was exactly, might need to ask him about it again.
Unfortunately the FAA is still in the 1950s in terms of medical certification. They’ve recently changed it so you can do it, but you have to be off of ADHD meds for 4 years, otherwise the process is super long and expensive (upwards of $15000), and even then you have to stop taking the meds. Autism as a diagnosis is even worse, I had selective mutism and the FAA required me to do a bunch of stuff even with that small diagnosis. If you want to just fly for fun, I would look into flying gliders or getting your sport pilots license, neither of which require a medical certificate. I wish you the best of luck though, and if you have any other questions feel free to ask
I've had to deal with ADHD comorbid with Autism since around age 2, when I was diagnosed. It was good to have it diagnosed early, and my mom raised me and my sister (who shares my diagnosis) well, especially as a single mom, but the way she explained autism to us was very damaging. The way she explained it made it sound like there was something fundamentally wrong with both of us. We both did well in school (especially my sister, she's absolutely brilliant), but we always struggled making friends and doing things outside our comfort zone. Once I got into theatre, something changed. Even though theatre is an amalgamation of things autistic people normally struggle with (super abstract concepts, tons of socializing, loud noises, bright lights, etc), I was so drawn to it. I loved it. And I was pretty decent at it despite my challenges. When I thought about what I wanted to do in college, I said theatre. Both my parents heavily discouraged it (including my super supportive dad who taught me how to sing), and for good reason. But one of the reasons they mentioned was that there's still a stigma around autism, so I'd have to go around denying a part of me just to be considered for hire in a field that's already really fickle with hiring. But I persisted. It's only been about 4 years since then, and sometimes I struggle, but when the people around you don't make you feel othered by your disability, it helps a lot. There are several people in my small class that are autistic, and it makes me feel like I finally don't have to fully hide it. I've talked to them, and we've helped assure each other that we can do it. It helps a lot. Wow that was a lot. Sorry 😂
I know how you feel, I'm not sure what I can be described as ADHD, but I certainly take too much time to do things due to my train of though seeming to take forever, perhaps it is ADHD, but I've never been able to create a clear distinction for myself as to what I do have. But point being, I could not have gotten through public school as everyone else did, I was lucky I qualified for student accommodations in high school and college. Now that I'm done with college however, now comes the scary part that I'm not entirely sure what I want to do or what to do, or for that matter what I want to do or what to do while still being allowed a place for my accommodations. I'm lucky my accommodations specialists in college had hooked me up with this government job site for people who have disabilities. If you're wondering about what the site is called, it's called Workforce Recruitment Program, or wpr.gov
2:44 This is a brilliant opening to the film. In a sentence, with the Bad Guy Affirmation the writers have established the struggle that Ralph is going to have throughout the film. By the end they turn it upside-down as Ralph’s journey changes the world around him and changes his perception of himself and the world around him.
14:15 reminds me of Nick Wilde's quote in zootopia when he says "when everyone expects you to be the bad guy then there's no point in trying to be anything else". Stigmas like that prevent people from reaching their true potential bc society wont accept them as they are and despite being different they truly are wonderful people inside with amazing gifts to offer the world if the world would just let them.
25:46 Interesting what you said about Ralph falling like Superman, because Superman is rising when he makes that position. However, Ralph is FALLING when he makes that position. I could interpret this as symbolism of, yes, him in the position of traditional superhero, but also accepting himself as being a “bad” guy, thereby reversing the position and making him upside down and falling. If that makes any sense. 😅
Neurodivergent person here! (I have ADHD and am Autistic) Your comment about some of the strengths of ADHD and how you two also have it made me feel very reassured and happy. I know being honest about being neurodivergent can be a hard and scary thing do because of how much it is misunderstood and stigmatized (which is something I’m trying to work on lately as well) so it’s very comforting hearing people be honest about their experiences. Especially because ADHD is a lot more common than people realize! People like you make me feel hopeful for the world. :)
Us ADHDers are some of the most passionate, creative, interesting and resilient people around. I love finding out that people I love and look up to also have it.
I love how Wreck It Ralph shows it only takes one sincere voice of belief and trust can provide you all the courage in the world to change what society has been pressuring you to be. Thank you for this internet dads!
When it feels like the world is telling you how much you suck, it's amazing how powerful a lifeline a single voice offering a different narrative can be.
@15:30 This part always moved me because Ralph misses something so important here. He started a quest to get a medal so that he could be *accepted* - so he could be up there with everyone else, and get invited to parties, and everyone would know his favorite type of cake - but he oversimplified that into "shiny medal = penthouse". Now he has actually done something heroic, and been given a medal for it, but he's so focused on the shiny medal he didn't even really earn that the significance escapes him. I'm just so glad you guys did this one for us, because I love the message. Some other movies with a similar theme include Free Guy and A Knight's Tale.
I love the first scene of the movie, because the Bad Guy Anonymous meeting seems to be modeled after Alcohol Anonymous meetings which I grew up with as a kid because my Dad brought me to them. They were always a comfort and having a small nod to that comfort just makes me happy!
I'm thrilled you all did this one, it's perhaps the one movie that I most wanted to see you all cover. It's my favorite Disney movie, one of my favorite movies in general. The bad guy affirmation played a big part in helping me with my own critical self-loathing and image. Maybe I'm not a bad guy per se, but I sure felt like a monster. It helped me to learn to love myself, and work toward a more positive outlook. There is no one I'd rather be than me.
Okay but rewatching this movie recently and seeing ralph break vanellope's cart? that broke me. I'm young enough where I've seen a good handful of movies, like this one, when I was too young to fully understand everything, and then watching it as I got older I realize how profound it is. This is one of those movies that has aged SO well for me, and I'm so glad it exists.
17:00 everytime this scene comes up, I turn my head away. And yet, I don't need to see what happens, the sound of things breaking to pieces and the desperate tone in Vanellope's voice as she begs Ralph to stop make it perfectly clear what's happening on screen. And even without seeing any of it, those sounds are enough to bring tears to my eyes every time. Like John says: "The power of film making." Indeed, my man, indeed.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. As a geeky gaming 80s kid, I can't even convey my excitement over seeing all of these games and characters represented together! It was like seeing Disney and WB characters sharing the screen in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Mind blowing! I will never tire of watching this movie. It's one I could put it on any time and enjoy it every bit as much the 100th time as I did the 1st time... maybe even more. There are always things to discover in each viewing. Also, Jono's King Candy impersonation was on point! P.S. Ralph Breaks the Internet was TERRIBLE! I was excited for it initially because this one was so clever and perfect, but HOLY CRAP was I disappointed!
Even though I don't even play video games, I still LOVED this movie since they made everything so cute and had such attention to detail :D Regarding Ralph Breaks the Internet, I liked the FIRST half but omg the second half was just weird and terrible I agree lol.
@@sathvamp1 Agreed, the first half set up a premise that could have paid off beautifully if handled correctly, but then they obliterated ALL of Ralph & Venelope's character development with insanely bad narrative choices and the way it ended was just bafflingly stupid.
For me, Wreck-it Ralph shows that we have jobs sometimes where we have to be "the bad guy". There are IRS, police who give tickets, parents and teachers who have to enforce rules. But we don't need to be a bad guy about or a jerk when we do our job. If Ralph wasn't the bad guy in the game there wasn't a game.
Omg, Jon. 😂 You do a perfect impression of King Candy! (Impersonation? Lol) Anyway, thank you so much for choosing Wreck It Ralph. I’ve always loved Cinema Therapy, especially so when you analyze my favorite movies. As it explains a part of me and my personality every time I hear you talk. You always seem to help me learn more about myself and what I need to work on or improve. I know; technically you’re not my therapist, but it certainly feels like it at times. I appreciate that. Don’t lose that empathy, you two!
I knew this was going to be a good episode. That part in the middle about telling the truth even though it sucks sometimes. Definitely relate to that. A couple years ago I wrote a couplet. "The hardest lesson to learn is that hiding your feelings protects no one. The hardest thing to accept is you don't need to protect anyone but yourself."
It doesn't fully fit the scene, but as a father, watching Ralph destroy the car in front of a crying little girl was gut-wrenching. The burden of trying to do the right thing even though it causes your loved ones pain. Oooof.
Even as a kid, I realize how this message resonated with me since Ralph himself wants to find who he truly was aside from his job and role as the "bad guy" and on the way also befriended an outcast that made him realize what it truly means to be a hero in a way that doesn't just involve glory
It's a treatment to how great that scene was that I'm tearing up just reading your comment. Words displaying on my phone and the tears start flowing because my brain remembers that scene.
@@Techydad I have sooo done that before while reading comments! Not for this movie (or most - it's REALLY hard to find a movie that makes me cry actually), BUT it happened for me regarding the movie "Nimona." Including while reading (or writing) comments, watching reactions or the actual movie or its clips, "Nimona" got me a total of 14 times! That's still the only movie to get me upon any number of repeat-watches.
These type of movies always get me to tears. It’s great to hear the perspective from both of you about all the fantastic ones you’ve shared. On another note, I recently reached a new understanding about our conversation a few months ago, with the Morgan Freeman movie, about not being interested in things related to JC. I was brainwashed and manipulated for nearly 10 years. You’ve both helped me through much of the turbulence said “relationship” had that I wasn’t able to understand. I hope you’re able to forgive my ignorance. The name I used back then was “Resistakill.”
"One of Disney's best films" - "That's a bold statement," but I wholeheartedly agree. As someone who has loved video games from a young age, and as someone who suffers from Tourettes Syndrome, Non Epileptic Attack Disorder and Affective Dysregulation ie has physical and vocal movements they can't control, I feel this film was made for me. When I was first diagnosed with my conditions, I didn't want to accept them because I had experienced years of feeling othered, and I didn't want to be defined by my conditions. Its taken many years but now I speak openly about my conditions, as well as my experiences with mental health and as a parent of four daughters, all of which inspired me to start my own business creating children's stories that empower children and adults to talk about mental health. This movie as well as inside Out are amongst my favourite films of all time because of the impact they have had on my life. Might I also take a moment to celebrate the two of you (as well as all the other people who make this channel possible). I always find your videos insightful and entertaining, and I always come away with lessons that I use to be better myself both as an individual and as a creative storyteller. Keep up the great work everyone 🙏💙🤙
I love this movie. One big question I had by the end of the film is. Are the Nicelanders being kind to Ralph because they see his value or are they terrified that if he leaves again that's it for them?
It could also be that Felix advocated for Ralph. Felix has Good Guy Privilege - he gets pies and medals because he's a good guy. At the beginning of the movie, he can't see past his Good Guy Privilege to see how horrible Ralph's life is. In the Fungeon, he finally understands. I imagine that, once the game resumed, Felix used his Good Guy Privilege to help improve Ralph's life. People trusted him because "he's the good guy" so he could use that to help overcome the Nicelander's fear and mistrust of Ralph. Of course, I imagine Gene was a holdout - acting nicer but secretly still hating Ralph. You'll notice that the only Nicelander to get exploded by dynamite in the "bonus level" scene is Gene. 😁
17:07 the guttural scream is so insane because in newer shows/movies I've seen lately that scream is never there, like in the fnaf movie when the spring suite crushed Steve we got basically nothing, or fallout when Lucy looses a whole finger we get nothing but a gasp, but here? A kids movie where a car gets smashed? The bloodiest gut wrenching screams I've ever heard.
John C. Reilly is just one of my favorite character actors of recent years. He spends a lot of his time being Wil Ferrell's sidekick in some Adam McKay movie or another, but he's got a lot of great low-key roles. He was perfectly cast in Chicago.
I haven't seen this movie but now its now its in my movie bucket list. I love how children's movies can have such deep, profound messages. I also love hearing the commentary by you people. So true that we all have our strengths and weakness; its how we chose to use them and direct them. (I kinda paraphrased it) like sometimes what we think our weaknesses are could be our strength when we understand it and use it in a different direction. I just love it.
Children movies are often better because it's so hidden under all the fun. You would never hear this kind of story told in this kind of way in a grown up movie.
“There is no one I’d rather be than me.” This film has always been one of my favorites, and has always felt like a great means of putting into perspective that you don’t know what other people experience. Constantly being the “bad guy” may be a matter of being subjugated to that role so extremely by those around you that you feel like there’s nothing else you can be. Being the “good guy” may be a matter of being so afraid of failure and letting others down that you hold yourself to almost impossible standards. Everyone has their storms and everyone has their wars - we need to share more love and compassion over what others are experiencing even if it’s something we don’t understand.
THANK YOU for doing this!! When I was going through my (second) divorce, this movie was my comfort and I couldn't explain why. But years later, I understand; it spoke to my internal crisis of faith in who I wanted to be versus who I had become in the marriage.
Hearing both the bad guy affirmation and the line "You are bad guy, but this does not mean you are 'bad' guy." Really feels hard and hits harder than before now hearing those lines again.
What I find interesting that doesnt get discussed enough is that they resisted the urge to make Felix the snarky "hero" who puts Ralph down. In the inciting appartment scene that while the other npc residents are belittling Ralph, Felix is trying to mediate saying "lets just eat the cake". The writers could have very easily fallen for the trope of the "villain" with a heart of gold opposed by the "hero" with a heart of ice, but they didn't. Felix is not only a hero in title, but is a legitimately good guy.
I like that about how Felix was written
I love that too!
At the same time I like how Felix is *only* trying to moderate, which makes it feel like 1, this kind of conversation has happened before and 2, he doesn't actually care about anything Ralph is saying. The man is content to ignore Ralph's obvious distress because even subconsciously the "friendly good guy" Felix saw Ralph as lesser for being the villain character.
Yeah, Felix is sympathetic to Ralph but doesn't help him because of social pressure.
@@NikkiBudders I guess Felix sees Ralphs distress about being lonely and outcasted by the Nicelanders to a certain extent, but he just tried to navigate the situation by avoiding any type of tension, negativity or conflict, because he is written as this "Happy Vibes Only" Type of guy. That's why he doesn't tell Ralph or Gene to leave or to shut up, but tries to steer to conversation to another topic, like "Why don't we just eat the cake". I mean that's also why Felix and Calhouns relationship is interesting, they are both polar opposites, he's very positive, playful, optimistic, kinda scared and avoids straight confrontations, while she's very serious, tough, strict and she literally has to lead troops into battle fields.
You have to admit that Ralph didn’t approach this poorly.
He wasn’t invited to the party of his game where he is one of two important people.
He started by saying he wanted to be on top of the cake with everyone else.
He was told that he didn’t belong and when things got heated he took his anger out on the cake. Not the people. Given the situation he was treated unfairly from the start.
He was excluded. When he asked to join celebration of both the anniversary and the handing of awards he got denied.
To live in a place where nobody likes you because of your job. It must have been difficult
Gene also touched Ralph which escalated the situation.
yea, the Nicelanders (and Felix to a certain extend) were massive turds to Ralph.
"You are bad guy, but that doesn't mean you are bad guy?" -- thats not what the Nicelanders thought of Ralph.
They didn't like him ingame, they didn't like him after the game.
Yeah, if you really think about it, they were the bad guys
Yes. The issue for Ralph was never his function in game, it was how he was treated after hours. For a real world parallel, the Nicelanders are all those people who sent hate mail and death threats to Jack Gleeson because of his portrayal of Joffrey. They are unable to distinguish between the person and the job. In the case of the Nicelanders, it is also a refusal to recognize that what Ralph does in game is equally important to what Felix does. You need both for the game to function.
It's definitely good that Ralph didn't take out his anger on the people, but smashing the cake is technically still an act of violence that scares people and makes them stop listening. He was definitely pushed into it, and you feel for him much more than the Nicelanders, but taking his anger out in that way still wasn't healthy or productive.
@JaimeNyx15
The nicelanders already weren't listening. He shouldn't have smashed the cake, but that doesn't make him the problem in that scene.
If you think about it, Gene is a really interesting character. He's not the "good guy", that's Felix. And he's not the "bad guy", that's Ralph. He uses his privilege to talk down to Ralph even though he personally has never done anything to help Felix or be a hero. Even when Felix tries to intervene between Ralph and Gene arguing, Gene can't help but ignore the actual hero to make his point. And unfortunately there a lot of people just like Gene, who look own on others and label them as "bad guys" to justify the bad things that happen to them. Even when true heroes try to tell them there is a better way and all they have to do is swallow their pride, they ignore them.
Not to mention the alcoholism.
We need a lot less Gene's in the world and a lot more Ralph's.
If you pay attention to the 'game's opening animation, Gene is (probably) the nicelander that Ralph throws while climbing the building.
The Gene's of the world are the real villains.
yup, gene's a straight up hater. looks and talks down to other people because it's a reflection of how he feels about himself!
The falling scene is so moving because in the moments before Ralph thought he was about to die, he clings onto the fact that, in the eyes of that little girl, he’s a hero.
makes me tear up just seeing it again here
You must think you're sooooo clever making me cry all over again right after I just stopped
@@statictacos1138MOOOOOOOD
In the scene were Ralph smashes Vanellope's car, I'm surprised you guys cut it off before she said, "You really are a bad guy." As you said, this is the person who has shown him the most love/trust/support he's ever known, and now even *she* is telling him the one thing he has heard all of his life. What choice does he have but to believe it? I think hearing those sorts of things from the people who mean the most to you hurts the most.
venelopi is a narcisist maniplator that is using Ralph, and he was subconciously truing to break out of her manipulation.She is a creepy caracteer to show to kibs in theathers.OMg
@@tristandimitrijev3195ok...?
@@tristandimitrijev3195lmao wtf are you talking about
@@tristandimitrijev3195who hurt you?
@@KitsukiiPlays gaslighting.people truing to justify bad behaviour.Not suprised that women find an irational way to justify bad boys...
I think what always astounded me about Ralph is that he never had any ill will towards Felix. Sure, he was probably jealous of his status and that he was beloved by everyone in their game, but all Ralph really wanted was to celebrate their accomplishments side-by-side. Ralph wanted to be seen as an equal to Felix, because without these two, Fix-It Felix wouldn't be the same.
I think Felix would've vouched to have Ralph be celebrated with him, but social pressure and his privileges keeps him blinded from seeing Ralph's struggles. I always liked that Felix was never a jerk or narcissist, just woefully ignorant, but also compassionate.
I like that too! Little details like in Ralph's victory fantasy, him taking Felix' place at the top of the cake but Felix' at the same time NOT being in Ralph old place in the dirt. The one who is villainized there is Gene because THEY have the bad relationship. Ralph just wants to have what Felix has but that didnt manifest itself by Ralph also wanting that Felix is stuck with what Ralph himself has to endure now. Thats the person who is actually awful to him.
If you think of the symbolism of marginalized identities that runs throughout the movie, “being a bad guy” is a metaphor for the imposed stereotypes and implicit biases people aim at marginalized groups. Gene represents the kind of person who is openly and blatantly biased toward those groups (i.e. a racist or homophobe). Felix however represents the privileged people who don’t critically challenge the world around him. He’s not intentionally prejudiced, he’s just experiencing immense privilege and so he is completely blind to marginalized people’s realities. He is fortunate enough to get this experience that allows him to challenge his passive acceptance of the status quo. So Felix is able to grow and realize he needs to take action. The whole plot line has always felt like a call to action to those with the most power who have never considered what their allyship could mean to marginalized people.
@@seamard well said 👏
Felix and Ralph’s relationship is a huge highlight of the movies for me. Idk when Felix starts calling Ralph “brother,” but damn I love to hear it
@@seamard What can you say, Democrats be evil I guess.
I love this movie. The scene where Ralph breaks Vanellopes' cart gets me every time. He's doing it to protect her, but from her perspective, her first and only friend is breaking her trust doing exactly what those racers did earlier in the movie. Also, this movie, imo had the best disney villain plot twist ever.
He's breaking but only the kart, but he's breaking her heart during that scene. And Ralph is also breaking his own heart. He thinks he's doing the right thing to protect Venellope, but he's hating every second of it.
@@Techydad 😭
Legit broke me 😭😭
Also how it's shot almost like a murder scene in movies, where it cuts to her screaming and her reaction instead of the initial breaking of the car, that's honestly what gets me the most
@dylanfooler Sarah Silverman did such an amazing job.
Sarah Silverman's voice acting when Ralph trashes the cart is phenomenal
she’s incredible!
It is. Wrecks my heart every time. I feel in that moment like a parent hearing their child scream from pain like that
Her voice is so annoying I have no idea how anyone can stand it
Giving me Little Mermaid flashbacks 😢
Her rent was DUE.
The way King Candy manipulates people is really great. He knew that Ralph’s main goal is to show everyone he can be a hero, and so he gave him the mission to do something for the greater good. That whole aspect of doing whats right, no matter what, is what is portrayed as heroic, and the writers knew that. He is such a SMART villain, and I absolutely love him for that
In my opinion, this was the best written scene! This manipulation tactic is genius because it wasn't too far-fetched. King Candy used logic, facts and half-truths that could hardly be argued against. There was a possible scenario that the game would be shut down if a character like Vanellope showed glitches during the race. Perhaps people would think the game is broken. Would it really be the best idea to gamble with the lives of all the Candy Crush residents?
This actually had me thinking if Ralph and Vanellope were really in the right here.
Jean's biggest issue is that he couldn't separate work from reality. Everybody in WRECK-IT-RALPH the arcade game has a job/role to play and once the arcade is closed everyone drops the act. Except Jean. He chooses to believe just because Ralph's job is to be the villain, that he is ALWAYS a villain. Jean almost screwed over everyone because he refused to clock out at 5:30pm.
Finally, someone calls out Jean! Everyone puts all the blame for the game almost being unplugged on Ralph (which isn’t fully wrong) but Jean is responsible too!! He was a pompous asshole to Ralph and never once stopped to consider his feelings and instead stubbornly view him as the mindless “bad guy” brute. To make things worse, he even gaslights Ralph into believing everything was his fault only when Ralph comes back to the penthouse with the medal. Like sir….dont act like you didn’t play a role in this yourself!!!
Gene*
it’s kind of everyone’s fault. gene antagonized ralph constantly and the rest of the nicelanders along with felix did nothing about it
@@さくら-l8t Relationships are give and take. Even work relationships need to be give and take; a good team supports each other, and does good work. Felix, Gene, and the rest of the Nicelanders, only ever took from Ralph, and Ralph only ever gave. There's no reciprocation for Ralph doing his job, worse he was berated, punished, and made to feel bad, for it. But still he just pushed through it. So the whole relationship between Ralph and the rest of the residents has been toxic to Ralph, the entire time. He's actually never been the bad guy, he's always been the most giving person in his game, and the victim. That is, until he reached his breaking point and decided to stand up for himself and ask for the respect he deserves.
It also shows both an active (Gene) and a passive (Felix/Others) form of abuse. Gene is actively putting Ralph down, and making him into a villain. He clearly has influence, and is using it to demonize Ralph and keep the others against him, which is quite obviously and visibly controlling and abusive. Felix on the other hand, very much *is* a nice guy who is well intentioned, but he only ever tries to defuse the situation and return to the status quo. He doesn't dislike Ralph like Gene does, but he still lacked empathy for Ralph. "Let's just eat the cake" is brushing everyone's feelings aside and trying to distract from the problem, a band-aid to get through the night(and a problem his hammer doesn't fix so he's clueless). He doesn't want the argument, but still, knowingly or not, refuses to see Ralph's perspective. He arguably has the most influence, the most power to affect change in his community. He could have used that to help Ralph and everyone else get along, by sticking up for Ralph and showing some support, and convincing others to give him a shot. Instead he pushes to maintain control, and puts himself, Gene, and the other Nicelanders before Ralph as usual. He doesn't really take Ralphs perspective until later in the movie, when it's forced onto him. As nice as he appears, or actually is, he was still working exclusively to maintain control over Ralph, and make things go back to what he knows to be normal, which we know is great for everyone but Ralph.
I think it's important to recognize that good people who do nice things can still cause harm to others without even realizing it. That abusers, aren't necessarily choosing abuse. Even Gene isn't mean for no reason. To him, Ralph just wrecks his house and everyone else's house everyday. He can't disconnect from work hours, he's played the victim long enough to believe it, just like Ralph has been made to believe he's the villain, and can't see Ralph is only doing his job. He thinks he's standing up for himself, that he and the others need to stand up for themselves against this monster. His feelings aren't invalid, even though he's lacking in empathy and understanding. And we know Felix as a person would never choose to do so much harm to anyone, even Ralph. But his actions we're still hurting Ralph as if he was. And if you make someone feel like the bad guy all the time, they will start to believe it. They only have themselves to blame for Ralph growing to resent them, that's all they ever saw him doing anyway.
The entire conflict of this movie could have been avoided with just a tiny hint of respect for Ralph and self-reflection from his peers.
"Just because you are 'bad guy' (and told you are the bad guy, treated like the bad guy, made to feel like the bad guy, made to think there is nothing else to your character than to be the bad guy) doesn't mean you are 'bad' guy."
@@KarmasAB123SCOTT!
Fun fact: when they showed Nintendo how Bowser was originally holding his tea, they ended up going "No, Bowser would hold his tea like _this_ " and demonstrated
After that, they worked with Nintendo to get it perfect
I love that so much 😂😂
Likewise originally Taizo Hori (the main character of Dig Dug) was supposed to be the "unplugged" characters. But Namco told the writers that would never happen because Taizo and the other Dig Dug characters have a large extended family in other Namco titles that would immediately take them in. So that part was given to Q*Bert instead.
I believe this. When Nintendo lets other people play ball with their property. . .they tend to let people have fun with it. . .and yet still have a hand in the product.
Source? I have to see the direct testimony it has t be great
I would love to see the scared faces of the Disney employees getting an email from Nintendo saying they got something very wrong about bowser only to find out they just animated him holding a teacup wrong. 😂
I like how the movie calls Felix out as being part of the problem too. He may not be actively participating in Ralph’s bullying but he’s not taking a firm stance in stopping it either because he’s either too blind or too stupid to see how negatively this has affected Ralph.
But to his credit, Felix does eventually experience a lot of what Ralph has been feeling and does make amends as a result of realizing how much it sucks to feel like that on a daily basis.
I mean at the beginning they weren't really friends they were barely associates who didn't really know each other as people. Similar to how most people would view public service workers or even just familiar strangers. You could see somebody every day and never talk to them and never know their struggles. And why would you most people don't want to know other people's struggles when they have enough in their own lives or if they don't they don't want to be burdened by being told that especially from a stranger or somebody you'd have no reason to talk to. The fact that Felix doesn't necessarily know there's a problem with how Ralph at the beginning doesn't really make him blind or stupid. They just don't hang out with the same friend group.
But Felix of a very well-meaning guy. Let's say assume that the party invite isn't the first time they've ever spoken to each other but is maybe the first time they've ever had a slightly longer conversation that isn't just some pleasantries like you'd say to somebody you kind of new in the school hallway.
somebody opens the door to see Ralph there and immediately runs back inside panicking and Felix's first reaction is not fear not anger but being nice. He doesn't the film Ralph is there for anything nefarious and goes outside to talk to him rationally. Which is already showing way more perspective than any other nicelander.
Now they have some unpleasant truth here and then Ralph is the one to shift the conversation about his self and make Felix take some perspective. He kind of plays on Felix's goodguys sentiment and it works immediately, only have to do with make a flight implication and Felix's immediately inviting him into the party for cake. And then immediately defend Ralph when the others questioned his decision to let him in by quickly reassuring them that nothing is wrong.
Event in the cake scene while he immediately doesn't immediately stand up for around he is trying to mediate the situation which doesn't work because he's not trying to force a compromise was just trying to make them both ignore there points which nobody's going to want to do admittedly he probably doesn't know much about conflict so I can understand why he did this.
Later he's the first one to worry about Ralph when he's not showing up and I don't know if it's necessarily specifically for the game the others are worried about the game but I think he's worried about Ralph given that he immediately volunteers to go find Ralph as soon as you find out where was Ralph went which could have gotten him actually killed for reals this time. Image find out back to the party he was defending rail fencing that rounded mean any harm after Ralph had literally just kill him, probably because he was aware it was an accident.
No he shows his privilege a little in the prison scene when he finally gets to talk to Ralph again but in his defense well his altered perspective is due to privilege I still think it is an older perspective as I think Felix realizes that they are game stops after the arcade closes and I don't think Ralph necessarily realize that. I don't think Felix realized but Ralph was as he said being rejected and treated like a criminal because from his perspective the game's over and sprouts choice to not hang out with them. The others were afraid of Ralph but Felix never was I bet if Ralph would come over other times before this Felix would have welcomed him immediately. Philly reason he didn't realize anything was wrong with Ralph's is that to a degree of Ralph never really showed there was anything wrong it's been 30 years and he's haven't told anybody that he wants to come to their parties. And he hasn't told them for a similar reason then he wasn't honest with vanelope. Similar to how he knows Penelope doesn't like can candy so we didn't tell her about it he knows that the other nice Landers are afraid of him so he assumed they'll reject him so he doesn't hang out with them. At the party earlier even though he felt like he had the right to be there he never actually asked to come in he manipulated Felix into inviting him in then accepted the invitation.
I'm not victim-blaming Ralph here I'm just pointing out that his fear holds him back in other situations as well not just what the movie shows us. And that well Felix's privileged he's not an idiot or oblivious, he took Ralph perspective instantly every time as soon as he was told he instantly understood. when Ralph said that he felt rejected and treated like a criminal all the time Felix didn't defend the knife Landers he instantly understood how I felt and probably why he would feel that way and immediately decided to help him.
Honestly I love their interaction with each other as a prove they're both really good guys. Felix is open for real from the very beginning and while he does judge him of Ralph actions he doesn't judge round for who he is or what he does with in the game and is instantly ready to accept him as soon as he gets a chance to. While Ralph is never once jealous angry or antagonistic toward Felix for being the hero and being beloved by everybody. They are both way better at realizing that it's they shouldn't judge each other for who they are within the game and way more mature than Jean could ever be. Their dynamic isn't antagonist akin the slightest and that's really really unique for a show like this.
It perfectly encapsulates WHY adversity matters. Often, people struggle to empathize with people unless they've experienced some similar adversity. If people could just practice empathy more, instead of being so quick to judge, this world would be a more beautiful place.
@@lbatemon1158 ..."adversity matters" or "diversity"?
@@lahlybird895This feels like a really long winded way of saying “no, not really!” and then really doing that thing, IE whether intentionally or not shifting blame of Felix and using the excuse of him not wanting to be burdened with extra baggage when in reality that’s an awful way to look at morally sound relationships.
You don’t choose to help people because it’s emotionally convenient for you like some kind of monetary transaction? It just seems like your using the thin veneer of therapy speak and warm platitudes as a crqutchel to shift scales and beat a narrative into shape where Ralph is actually more responsible for the situation as it stands then he really is and Felix is “i’m not saying he ought not to be held to account, but cricumstancesss and he cant help ittt”
@@anagonyaowusu3119 so are you saying that I'm saying Felix if it isn't here or you saying that I'm saying he's emotionally cold or are you saying both and ask you if I think that emotional distance is innocence?
To clarify I don't think Felix is emotionally cold and I think it's quite the opposite. Which is actually why I disagreed with the idea that he was too ignorant or blind to realize there was a problem before.
Tuco him blind or stupid if I think unfair to the situation and to his character as a person.
If they would imply that he knew there was a problem with Ralph and didn't do anything or that he didn't know there was a problem but also wouldn't have helped if he did know and I don't think either those are fair because well he didn't know there was a problem as soon as he discovered there was a problem he was instantly automatically ready to help and help as much as he could.
And I think the only reason he did realize this problem before with just due to limited interaction do to him spending most of his time with his friends add Ralph spending most of his time in other places.
I think that Felix didn't realize there's a problem with Ralph do two different social networks and dude his privilege as we gave hero.
But it's not because he's stupid it's just because they have different food groups and hang out in different circles and places.
What was Ashlee displayed in the movie The moment Felix found out there's a problem with Ralph at all he was instantly ready to help purely out of kindness and not for any other reason.
If Felix did hang out with tri if he was on his own further down like Hubert here probably know there was a problem with route sooner.
I think that Felix maybe part of the problem in the sense that he has bad friends and that is separated from Ralph, but I do not think it's entirely fair to blame him as the entire problem. Just because he's bi penthouse celebrity doesn't mean he has any control over the behavior of the other nicelanders. Andy would also suggest that he was fully aware there was a problem with Ralph and not help him or that he didn't know there was ever a problem with Ralph at all which is I think more likely but I don't think that makes him stupid. You're not stupid if you don't know the problems of everybody near you.
I believe it's Ralph had ever tried to become part of the friend group earlier Felix would have tried to do that would have tried to accept it and let him in.
Again I draw back to the additional conflict over the party when he was first vitagraph inside. If Felix really at fault for not extending a party invitation to Ralph when Ralph pretends he wasn't interested in the first place.
No Felix is at fault for how he handled the Cake fight. He was trying to defuse the situation and not cause conflict but nobody really like to have a situation diffuse for there in the middle of an argument, is that only irritate people which is why the conflict only escalated from there despite Felix trying to settle it down. But Felix did not cause this problem in the slightest. Ralph is the one who started the feeding the first place and Gene is the one who escalated it after Felix tried to calm them down. Jay dizzy also the one who is being actively rude to Ralph and continue to push him even after he showed fights and he was starting to get angry. Now Felix could have told you to knock it off but that may or may not have stopped Jean from being antagonistic. So well it's true Felix Miss handle the situation V situation itself is not his fault. If Jean had pushed Ralph it would not have happened. If Ralph had it made a big feed about the cake decorating in the first place it might not have happened so I think Gene is more involved here than Ralph was with Ralph was trying to explain what he wanted in a rather subtle way rather than just say it out loud which is still a problem but he wasn't being mean about it.
So the real problem in this feed is Jean it is not Felix.
No you could say Felix is at fault for not going to find Ralph suitor after the party and that would may actually be valid if you're the host of a party and somebody you invited to it it storms off in a bad mood it may be a good idea to go and check on them. If Felix had gone to talk to Ralph afterward they probably would have had some healthy communication like they did later the jail cell and the full movie made ever have happened. at the same time without Felix's power is a magic hammer that fixes things at not mind reading. At this point he does not know that the fight over the cake was way more personal for Ralph and it went to everybody else. He does know that Ralph essentially made a rash declaration, and while he may have acted all that he took it upon himself to make sure that nobody believed Ralph was serious. So the fault may be on Felix for believing Jean at the same time itself adjust. Jean for being dismissive of Ralph completely and tried to convince everybody else not to believe in Ralph's in the slightest. You absolutely can't blame Felix for this though I therefore listening to Jean or for not following up whether he believed Jean or not. And if you want to say that that him believing cheated this circumstance is what qualifies him for being glide for not seeing how Ralph really felt or stupid for believing Jean in the first place you absolutely can.
At the same time though I think risking your own life just to go and talk to somebody and try to smooth over the situation since more about who you are as a character that you maybe Miss handling a party that went wrong.
And at the same time I do believe his comments and they printed selfeed are necessarily an indication of him being stupid or blind but more of the fact that he's frustrated having to deal with something he's never had to deal with before and it was just a moment of anger spoken out and while he didn't know Ralph was as much of a victim at the time that is once again not necessarily on him for not knowing. I also do with Ralph egg that if it's every day of his life with Felix is going through it necessarily the same thing they did go through very different things they've both experienced rejection but different types and while Rome was kind of feared he was never actually locked up in a jail cell which is why I believe it makes sense or feel like to say that lie that Ralph didn't necessarily know how this felt being rejected and treated like a criminal like Felix had been recently. After all Feliks didn't reject Ralph, so why would Ralph feel rejected. He knows be nice Landers were afraid of Ralph, but they all listen to Felix with Felix told them to let Ralph come in. And just because Ralph doesn't hang out with them doesn't mean he's treated necessarily like a criminal, at least not as far as Felix is concerned about since he was actually arrested just an association would have Ralph and actually thrown in jail.
I think it worked Felix with a little naive for assuming that because he's based around everybody else is but I don't think blind or stupid applies.
Edgy diz the real problem here. Felix Felix is a great guy who's always trying to be accepting an open towards Ralph it's the very beginning and immediately understood his perspective as soon as Ralph explained himself.
There's more to the Bad Guy affirmation coming back at the end than just what Alan said about its meaning being changed. The thing is, if you recall, Ralph never actually said it with the other bad guys at the start of the film, he just stood there with an empty look on his face, unhappy, unfulfilled, even amongst peers. He only truly says it at the end of the movie when he decides to be a hero by being a bad guy and losing. That signals not just his acceptance of his place in the world, but realized understanding of his role to the people around him, that being someone who sacrifices for them, whether it be as the villain of a game, or the hero to Venelope.
That reading is potentially problematic, and that's OK. I think it is very important that Venelope safes him in the end. We don't need to see 'bad guys' sacrifice themselves, we need to see people form connections and communities and lift each other up. That's just my opinion, it probably has flaws as well. ❤
@@Sam..123 I agree
Personally I never thought the meaning changed.
I think that the lesson he learned here if the lessons they were trying to teach him from the very beginning but they weren't good at explaining it or he just didnt internalize it correctly until now.
The other game villains were never saying it's good to be bad they were saying that just because they're the bad guys in their games doesn't mean they have to be bad people. And that they need to be the bad guy in their games but that shouldn't affect who they are as people.
Ze what's his name isn't saying that he have to suck it up and be the bad guy because his game need some to you and that's all he has to be he's saying that he has to perform the role for the game that doesn't have to be who he is outside of it or have anything to do with his life other than that.
I'm Presley believe that's what this entire support group is about helping video game bad guys realize they aren't bad people just because the game tells them they are and coming to love themselves for who they are and what they can do and all of that.
It's change from funny to solum, but it is the exact same meaning from the very beginning this is exactly what it was always meant to mean.
It's the story of self-acceptance.
I'm me and that's good I will never be something else and that's not bad there's no one I'd rather be than me
I never saw the meaning change, what I saw was Ralph finally understanding what it meant.
@@rsrt6910 yes
This
Hearing that little impromptu talk about ADHD and finding out both of the internet dad's have it absolutely healed me. Academic stress is killing my theatre heart but that made it so much better.
Hang in there. There's a plethora of methods to work through schoolword procrastination. I haven't found one that works _consistently_ yet, but I've found that bouncing between them tends to get me through the tough weeks.
Cheers to that, mate.
Have you heard the song ‘Cycle’ by Derivakat (I think that’s the correct spelling?). Because while it’s made about media creation, it also speaks to me about the ADHD cycle of procrastination and ‘productivity rush.’
For a lot of people who think their character flaw is “I’m not confident enough”, it can be redirected really well into “I understand how someone else may not feel like they’re enough”. Feelings of self worth and happiness can grow so fast when we’re a rock for someone else. Because you can make a difference for someone who’s hurting.
You've put into words something ive felt for most of my older teen to adult life, my childhood up to about 15, was awfully shit, like terrible, it wasn't really anyone's fault it just sucked cuz it sucked. However once I got myself away from that situation, and was able to start pulling myself together and grow as a person, I found I'd meet people who were currently dealing with some of the situations I did, and I felt a kinship with them that let me kinda help teach some of them how to put up with the bullshit that I had, how to cope and survive, and I got to see them grow and become capable people who could stand up to almost any challenge, one of them recently moved out of their parents house, and got away from all the problems caused by the abuse they put up with, and I'm really proud of her for coming so far yk, and I'm proud of myself for doing the same ig.
@@chaoticdetectivepeach You deserve to be proud of yourself for that one. Your influence and kindness gave someone the courage to make a scary change in her life. It speaks to who you are as a person, and from one stranger to another? I’m proud of you, too.
@@MatiasGRivera Thanks dude, but I'm proud of myself for making the changes she made myself, I think I honestly had very little to do with her making the change herself, she was already crazy tough when I met her
I love this!!
YESSSSS!!! “There is nobody I’d rather be but me!” - the scene where Ralph is thrown off the roof and sees his BFF just makes me melt every time!
Precisely, that's such a feel good line, it definitely should be preached more often.
I love that scene!!!!
It makes me cry every time
Yeah
Ugh, I cry every time!
one of my favourite little details about this movie is that Felix goes from calling Ralph his colleauge, then his friend, and at the end of the film he refers to Ralph as his brother, which is so incredibly sweet
Felix is the perfect slightly privilege and out-of-touch sweetheart and we love him.
@@lahlybird895 Felix is out here spreading kindness and doing his best, how can you not love him
@@clarasundqvist6013 exactly!!
He's just a total sweetheart
Yes spot-on! Love Felix
I noticed the progression back when I first saw the movie in theaters, and when he called out "Ralph! You comin', brother?" from Calhoun's shuttle, I smiled the biggest smile
@@fishdude2954 best bromance
Ralph and Vanellope's relationship is so pure to me. They're both outcasts, and find solace in each other when achieving their goals.
I know right?
Ans then they kinda fucked it up in the sequel. Q - Q
@@irkenpony17 Right? The whole premise was making Ralph a needy jerk and encouraging Vanellope to go Turbo.
@@irkenpony17 What sequel? There is no sequel, what are you talking about? *wink wink, nudge nudge*
@@TheTecManiacsequel doesnt exist nope
The scene where Ralph wrecks the racer broke my heart. The animators did a perfect job of demonstrating Ralph's complex feelings. Ralph's defining moment is when he finally accepts not only who he is - a bad guy in the game, but a good guy overall. Once he does that, he achieves full acceptance from the other characters of his game.
I'm pretty sure that that scene is designed to wreck the viewer. I saw it in theaters, and it was totally silent in the audience during that scene... except for maybe sniffles.
I know! Especially since it was such a sweet moment when he and Vanellope worked on the go-cart together. It's heartbreaking cause he feels that destroying it is the only way to protect her. There's been a few times when I've watched this movie and I've shut my eyes for that scene cause it's so sad and hard to watch, but so well done.
This movie was super cathartic for me. I was bullied relentlessly when I was in school because of the symptoms of my autism. After a few years of this with no end in sight I had grown into a malicious and spiteful person, but this movie really spoke to me because anger is a mask for some other emotion.
Anger is a mask to hide your fear.
@@janusn9 Not just fear but sadness and disgust as well. For example there was a time when I wanted to be friends with everyone around me, but the pain and sadness I was feeling as a result of being bullied and watching people just stand by and let it happen eventually gave way to anger. All emotions have their place though including anger because sometimes that anger is fully justified.
I appreciate how Ralph's actions illustrate his core strength is not destruction but his ability to project empathy. Remember, even when convicted, he still demonstrates more compassion than the "hero" of his game. Note, Fix-It Felix is friendly yet limited due to a one-game perspective. He only goes to help Ralph when it is convenient for his game. Meanwhile, despite an identity crisis, Ralph demonstrates his core strength; when allowed to be "a hero," he gives the cherries to Cubert as an unconditional gesture of kindness, showing how, regardless of labels, he is more of a hero than his peers give him credit for.
This makes the ending so satisfying; when confronted with the same problems, Ralph chooses to be a force for good rather than stop when his needs are met, demonstrated through adopting the various gameless arcade members.
Don't ask what you would do with more power, ask what you can do with the power you have.
That said, Felix happens to be the only one to invite Ralph to the party and the one to leave his game to search for Ralph.
So we should give him much credit for that.
@@SinHurr Very true.
@@Furienna I agree. I was just illustrating why Ralph is a great character.
This is so true and so beautiful thanks for pointing these out ❤
To me the cake scene is such genius because it is the perfect metaphor for how Ralph is seen and is treated
•Thrown in the mud like a pile of trash, it's no wonder he hates chocolate as well, cuz it looks exactly the same color as mud
•How Felix was so oblivious to Ralph's mistreatment because he was so forcefully rewarded by the community
•And how every Nicelander, including Gene see Ralph as a true villain, even though it's only his role to PLAY the villain
I agree
I think there's something to be said about Felix and privilege. Felix wasn't a mean and rude person, but he didn't see how badly Ralph was being treated because his Good Guy Privilege kept him from personally experiencing how bad guys are treated.
When his Good Guy Privilege is stripped away (both in the initial rejection by Calhoun and by being imprisoned in the Fungeon), he finally understands. The blinders are removed and he sees what Ralph dealt with every day of his life.
We all have certain privileges that we live with. It can be hard to see past them to truly see how people without them suffer. However, it's important to keep our privileges in mind and help those without them.
Felix overall was just a very conflict-averse person, so when caught up in one his immediate reaction was to just quickly try to mediate it towards a quick stop without really taking the time to understand what it was about as long as he could get the immediate yelling to end.
@@Colopty true
At the end when he and Vanelope land in the chocolate puddle, he’s like
“It’s chocolate. I LOVE CHOCOLATE”
That could be the movies way of saying Ralph’s acceptance of himself
Another scene I like that shows how differences can be strengths or weaknesses depending on context is when Felix tries to break the prison bars but only makes them thicker and he yells, "Why must I fix everything I touch???"
Firstworldproblems are still in fact problems to those people.
@@lahlybird895yep, it's something most people don't understand
Problems scale, sure those richer will have less problems concerning their survival, but it's still a problem
It's something like the double edge of physical beauty. Many people would outright deny the negative side of being beautiful, but there are some real complications of being too beautiful or too coveted.
@@anadaere6861 yup.
It drives me absolutely mad when people just decide that what you have money that if your problems matter and they're all insignificant and not real problems and that the only people who deserve to have their problems batter or poor people in countries other than ours.
Like yeah rich people are starving but at the same time they have way more social pressure to deal with and they have to make sure they stay rich and don't lose all their money in stupid ways and they get to deal with all kinds of stuff like fake relationship who are only hanging out with that because they want their money and stuff like that and some of them are so rich that other people that they're supposed to be close to her kind of distant like parents who send their kids off to boarding school that never see them. Not to mention there still at as much risk for mental health illness is anybody else after all white people say money can't buy happiness. Bad if they also happen to be famous so they have to deal with that kind of problem the lack of privacy and the over scrutiny by Fraser who are going to decide your morality based on what they see you eat for dinner.
Are princess movies even like people act like because she's a princess that none of her problems batter and yet she's got as much rules to follow as anybody else and she's also probably going to be married off to somebody and everybody's like will knows our problems your princess you could do whatever you want you can change the laws if you wanted to but no she can't it's not that easy and real-life rich people have to deal with that to expectations or perfection rules all that having to meet up with what people think you need to be good at. The lack of personal freedom isn't something the movies made up and neither is arranged marriages for that matter.
I think the reason people don't want to admit that rich people have problems is because they are kind of jealous and think that if they were their situation they would have been complaining because their life is still better than the person in question. But I bet they wouldn't like it if somebody in a worthwhile situation started doing the same thing to them
@@msk-qp6fn Felix is psyche
As a neurologically disabled individual, Vanelope’s “pixlexia” was very relatable.
Why is everybody can tearing this to a nurodivergence?
It's a very physical disability I am thinking of it of more like narcolepsy or something a physical condition that can sometimes cause you to have a physical reaction that you weren't planning on that can make things difficult for you
But then again I suppose we're all going to look for our own type of disabilities I'm a physically disabled person first and a neurodivergent person s if at all although admittedly my disability is being blind not muscle spasms or seizures or anyting physicaly uncontrollable other than nystagmus
Who said “neurodivergence”? I said neurological which is encompasses NARCOLEPSY and EPILEPSY. One of which you list as a possibility. Lol.
@@missylks1239 oh dear I'm sorry it was late and I must have misread 😅
@@missylks1239 And to be fair, the body/brain dichotomy is a myth. Your brain is attached to the rest of your body. It's simply another very important organ. You think, feel, react, and process with your entire nervous system. My physical health affects my brain and my mental health affects my body.
@@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice What does that have to do with anything?
Oof, the cart smashing scene hits me every time; I grew up in a house with someone who had a lot of anger and would, in addition to physically assaulting members of the house, would smash, tear, or shatter personal belongings in fits of rage. Sarah Silverman’s scream during this scene chills me to the bone every time-I’ve felt that abject horror at watching something you cherish get smashed to pieces. It’s not because of materialistic concern, it’s about boundaries and the trust that gets broken when someone doesn’t respect yours.
Johnathon summed up the problem in seven words. "Not just the role but the outcome" we see at the end he is happy to continue to play the role of the bad guy he just wants how he is treated to reflect who he is and his contributions to the game. Although I am surprised that he didn't comment on Ralph's good setting of boundaries when he and Vanelope are in the tree and she starts mockingly repeating what he says. He simply informs her that her behavior is inappropriate and declines to engage further.
"I don't like what you told me, but I respect that you told me the truth." What a great phrase to live by.
Something today's people need to definitely hear, the truth of reality
I find it fascinating that Ralph and Turbo both disguised themselves to win races, yet they each have a different relationship with Vanellope. Ralph empathises with her status as a fellow outcast, and she brings out the best in him. Turbo despises Vanellope because as a fellow glitch, she reminds him of everything he hates about himself.
Which makes Turbo one of the most interesting and terrifying villains of modern Disney animated movies
@@yiwoon_cr8she doesn't have a menacing voice in the slightest, he's tiny, he had a funny face and he's not a fighter
but Goddamn, he's just realistically evil!
looking at him, he doesn't seem like a terrifying villain. It's his acts and motivation that made him terrifying
She's not a glitch though, she was the games main character and Turbo wanted that for himself
@@kelseyswanepoel7056 Yes, he stole that from her. Unlike Ralph, Turbo broke the game he inserted himself into. He re-wrote the game code and replaced Vanellope's character, breaking it in the process, hence the glitching.
Head cannon: She’s all glitched out because Turbo took her place and messed with the code and if anyone in Sugar Rush would have empathized with her and help her figure it out, this situation would have been resolved a long time ago.
I love hearing you casually bring up ADHD, I got diagnosed two years into college and its means a lot to see such awesome people talk about it in a positive/neutral way
When you said that part about not choosing our roles in life-- wow.
My family and I just recently had that discussion. I feel like I'm the one who has been made to be "the problem" so everyone else can be good. For the first time in years they actually thought it through and realized "wait yeah... we do kind of take our anger out on her" and it was extremely healing.
We are going to start family therapy soon since we have a lot to work on, but honestly this show and the talks about scapegoating helped me realize why I always felt like I was hurting people by simply existing.
I'm sorry you've had to live with that feeling, but I'm glad that your family realized they were wrong and that you'll be going to therapy together. Best of luck to you, I hope things get better
Them acknowledging it is such a rare thing for scapegoaters. I hope you all can make the best of it.
That last moment of “there’s no one I’d rather be than me” makes me tear up. It’s such a good reminder for be of being thankful for who and what I am rather than wishing I was someone else or doing something else.
The last scene is so moving. Realizing that he is about to die, he holds onto the fact that that one little girl thinks he’s a hero, and he thinks that that made it all worth it.
Ralph is one of my favorite non hero character, The way he just wants to be accepted and be something he wanted to be, someone who is not only living for destruction but also to be able to achieve something and be accepted for once.
Another great example is Megamind in a much more mature manner...in some way
I can understand that
"The thing about being treated as the bad guy is you start to believe it and start to act accordingly"
Beyond true for me. I never found a place in the world for me where my anger wouldn't eventually get the best of me and people would see that part of me over my kindness. The people reacted was always negative because they expect perfection. I was so hated it felt like I was meant to be a bad guy. At a certain point I asked "Maybe I should just stay that way. I'm good at it, so I might as well be the bad guy"
This was the case for me. I was treated like a ticking time bomb at times in school.😅
We humans evolved specifically to fit into a pack. We instinctively try to fill whatever "role" the packs assigns us, because the alternative is being expelled from the pack's safety and dying alone.
Basically EVERY human will acknowledge that they put on a mask during social interactions, however a lot of the time it's subconscious. Bad guy, good guy, we ALL only get to be our true selves when we're alone, or with those closest loved ones whom we've revealed our true selves to.
Funny, it was my anger that allowed me to interact positively with my peers. Had a minor snap (literally just a death stare), suddenly people wanted to talk with me.
Yes I liked how they said that it can be channelled into something healthy and productive. Not just sports, but for example maybe you can channel that anger into being an activist, fighting for a cause you believe in, trying to right injustice.
That was me growing up. I was so demonized for not liking *girl things* and having a rage that was unladylike(I have BPD) and bullied for trying to be anything OTHER than the freak and bad guy that at some point, I thought: fuck it, they want a bad guy, they're gonna get one and they are gonna regret it. Suddenly, they were shocked and upset and im thinking: This is what you wanted, why act scared now?
"We tie our worth to outcomes instead of our growth, and it bites us every time."
That's going to be MY new favorite quote.
This movie always makes me bawl with that last ending line. There’s not a person on earth who can watch this movie and not completely be emotionally moved by it.
THIS is how you make a video game movie, industry!
THIS is why we love a good villain, applies to both definitions - Ralph and Turbo
THIS is what we want, Disney!
Imo free guy was better, but that was more or a parody of the absurd nature of video games and how they are played and developed
Disney... already forgot what people wanted... it's sad really.
I agree with Alan about Sugar Rush being an immensely popular game if it were ever developed/released. I'd play that game.
Same, I already love racing games. And I like sweets, I would love Sugar Rush
...including the kicky Attract Mode theme song. ♫ "S-U-G-A-R! Jump into your racing car! *_Sugar Rush! Sugar Rush!"_* ♫ 😊
there was a game made for it called sugar rush speedway
Years ago, Disney had a Sugar Rush game on their website where you could actually play as the individual racers from the movie. I haven't been able to find it again.
I agree, but sadly, Disney never seems willing to commit to these kinds of things. They made the "game within a movie" Space Paranoids from Tron, and put it in arcade machines in their Flynn's Arcade section of Disneyland around when Tron Legacy was coming out, but then just... let it disappear.
I think they like to keep things ephemeral partially to take advantage of the FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) but **primarily** for the same reason you don't explain The Noodle Incident: Letting the audience's imagination create something better than you ever could by giving it solid form. If they made a Sugar Rush game, they'd get people complaining about "This character is over/under powered" or "This vehicle has poor stats" or "The handling is awful" or "I can't believe they left out this tiny detail from the movie" or "Why did they change it, it sucks" or "Why did they make it exactly the same, it sucks" or any number of other complaints. By not making it, each person has the ideal in their head, and they're different ideals, and so everyone feels like it'll be the "perfect game".
Wow, this was such an interesting video! As a fan of both Cinema Therapy and Wreck-It Ralph, I couldn't resist clicking on this. It's fascinating to see a therapist's perspective on the psychological aspects of a beloved character like Ralph. Your insights into his self-esteem and identity struggles were spot on, and I love how you related it to real-life experiences. Keep up the great work! Can't wait to see more therapist reacts videos
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
Ooohh you guys answer in your comments section? That's awesome! I love you guys, I've seen so many of your videos!
Yeah this channel is up there with the actual transformation work that is supposed to be required, I'm just trying to say they are what other react channels should strive for
24:15 I remember seeing this scene in the movie theaters and honestly, it made me cry because of how heartfelt and bittersweet his delivery of those lines were.
One thing I really loved about that movie is that the badguys have this little support group because they have a tough job, but that doesn't mean they should suffer, especially not alone. I also like how you can tell Felix feels bad for Ralph its like the difference between someone who is really a good guy and not one who is just a goodguy.
I love the Alan Cry Cam. Whenever it focuses on him too long in ANY remotely emotional scene, we can immediately know he's tearing up haha Love your vulnerability, Movie Dad!
Speaking of which... I think they should do "Miracle in Cell No. 7" (either the original Korean or later Turkish versions) but I can say for me, the Turkish version "got me" 5-6 times... the MOST during a single watch of any movie. The Korean version WOULD have "gotten me" if emotions such as anger didn't interfere with tears, but they do lol.
"the thing about being treated as the bad guy is you start to believe it and act accordingly" reminds me of how parents can treat kids at times. This was the kindling that burnt the bridge between me and my family. I struggled in school when I reached my teens, I had always been a gifted child and I hit a dead end. I have adhd, undiagnosed at the time, but they believe my bad grades in school were an act of rebellion. They gave me punishments constantly, taking away my phone, couldnt watch tv (a family activity) so i was confined to my room all the time. Not amazing for my mental health. Everytime I got a bad grade the punishments just stacked on top of eachother and over time I was just grounded for months. So i gave up, i stopped caring and since grounding didnt work anymore they threatened to take my door away and they made me keep it cracked at all times.
All of these punishments and the barrating and comparing to my sibling made me feel like a bad kid. I was not a bad kid. I followed rules, I didnt get in trouble at school, I didnt talk back or argue, I behaved as expected. But after being treated like a bad kid for so long i decided "you know what? I am a bad kid and I'm going to show you exactly what a bad kid looks like" i flunked classes on purpose and almost didnt pass that grade. I lit the match and threw it on our bridge. This spiraled into a bunch more things until my dad decided to pour gasoline all over the fire and kicked me out. Safe to say that bridge is gone.
But now i reflect on that and realize sometimes parents give extreme punishments not because they have bad kids and they deserve it but rather because they are bad parents. Dont treat your kid like a bad kid or they will behave accordingly.
I can relate to this a lot
Wish I had that... I just got beatings from my bio-mother 😂
@@BamsyOfficially I was never beat but it doesn't mean the threat wasn't there. One of the reasons I left was when my dad and I had gotten into a big fight and I tried to get out of the car because I was scared and he physically grabbed my arm and yanked it. He looked like he was about to physically hurt me. He let go but he acted like I was the one that had forced him to do that. "I haven't yelled for months! I was doing so good not yelling!" Is what he yelled at me instead.
I wish they had just beat me rather than mentally torture me and gaslight me into believing I was not being abused and tell me/make me believe I was loved no matter what when in reality the love and support me and my siblings received depended on our ability to conform to what they wanted us to be. It hurt more figuring out on my own that they never really loved me as their child and being lied to and betrayed rather than being outright showed that I was unloved by beating me. That's just my personal feelings. It would have hurt less to leave if I had never thought they loved me in the first place.
@@cuppy3874 My parent just threatened to unalive both me and my sisters... oh what good times lmao 🤣
@@BamsyOfficially grass is always greener on the other side of the fence right? I wish it had been that simple
This film is seriously underrated. I really connected to Ralph and Vanellope because I’ve been an outcast for most of my life and have gone to great lengths to gain acceptance but realized I was only hurting myself in the process and losing the ability to trust those who have good intentions. I still have flaws but I feel like I’ve grown a lot and I’m glad Disney made characters who are misfits but are still so relatable and loveable
Agreed!
100%
I've been struggling with my autism for a while now. I've been treating it as a character flaw and an obstacle, just the same, because a lot of the time if I'm not masking at home, my family think I'm being outright hostile to them. I think I really needed to watch this video, because it's helping me to put things into perspective, now. Thank you for making the content that you do :)
I have ADHD, but I started hanging out with a friend from one of my classes. I don't think she'd been officially diagnosed with Autism, she suspected it in herself. And I never noticed it much, but she didn't smile a lot.
I'm a very smiley person naturally, but for her she just didn't do it a lot in casual conversation. And one day she opened up about how she tends to mask by smiling more often than she normally would, because she said people tend to think she's upset or angry if she's not all smiles. She told me she appreciated that she didn't feel like she had to put on an extra smiley face around me, and that touched me.
All that's just to say: You can and will find people you don't have to mask around. That's not necessarily a knock against your family, it's only meant to reassure you that there _are_ people and groups out there that you can be yourself around. You'll find them. Autism isn't a character flaw. With some of the people I've known, especially my brother, for all the complications it's caused, it can be quite a superpower.
I hope you find a home where it's safe to unmask and you learn to love everything about yourself.
This comment reminds me how lucky I am to have a family who accepts what others could perceive as my weird mannerisms. Like sometimes I like to hum out loud when concentrating, or I like to shake objects I have in my hand, usually a toy or a pen. And even tho they might question it, tease me a bit or get annoyed by the loud humming, they don't judge these behaviours as something weird about me or see it as a flaw, but rather just accept them as part of what makes me, _me._ Even if I have to subdue these behaviours when out and about, I can come home always knowing I can fully be myself, which although I don't acknowledge it a lot, is one of the greatest gifts they could give me. I feel like everyone good deserves a place like that.
This movie is neck and neck tied for my favorite movie of all time. The scene where he recites the bad guy mantra and in that moment chooses to accept and love himself, to make his own choices and not worry about seeking the approval of others because he knows who he is, will never not make me tear up
Neck and neck tied with which other movie?
The part about ADHD genuinely made me smile because it feels like this neurodevelopmental disorder has been getting in the way from the moment I found out it was a thing. Since I'm not diagnosed, not many people understand my struggles, and I constantly think it's a disadvantage I hate. But when people say things like it isn't a flaw and that is has its upsides, it does ease my worries and hatred for it. Thank you for addressing that :)
It is absolutely not a flaw! Since being diagnosed three years ago, I have found so much solidarity in so many other people who also have it and they’re some of the most creative, passionate, interesting people i know. So many incredibly talented musicians, actors, artists and activists have ADHD. I think finding a community of other ADHDers can make a big difference. I recommend looking up some of the great things about having it! You’re absolutely not alone ❤
@@gabriellaberman thank you very much. I'll certainly look for one :)
My mother works for a private school principal who is constantly going 30 directions at once, and things are getting done. You don't need a formal diagnosis for social reasons. Just find that zone where you can let yourself go anywhere and everywhere, and see where it takes you. Me? I'm a storyteller.
Honestly, as wonderful as diagnosing can be, even just the understanding can be a great help. I’m diagnosed with ADHD, but I also highly suspect autism. I don’t (yet) have a diagnosis, but learning about the autism traits I display, and starting to live in a way that caters more to those traits, has done soooo much for my own wellbeing.
Yes, I’ll have to avoid or do things that neurotypical people don’t understand, but my own mental health has taken a turn for the better.
I really encourage you to learn as much about ADHD, as you can. And don’t be discouraged if you don’t fit the most common traits. I don’t, but I fit a lot less common traits, and my diagnosis still stands.
Yeah. What gets me riled up are the people who go one and on about it being a blessing and that "kids with ADHD aren't different, they just need love like everyone else." Uh, *NO.* School was a *nightmare* because I couldn't focus. I *knew* I was smart, but my grades didn't reflect that. I'm also on the spectrum and got teased because I didn't understand how to be *human.* Didn't help any that I wasn't diagnosed until my 20s. People thought I just needed to 'try harder' or 'not be rude.'
There *are* good things about these disorders and I wouldn't change who am, mostly, but it's also so damn *hard.*
As a union member, I wanted to say I appreciated the solidarity shown at the start of the video.
As a Street Fighter player, I wanted to express how much it's bothered me for over 10 years now that Zangief is portrayed as a villain.
RIGHT? They have M. Bison, they *know* who the villain of those games is, but they included Zangief in the villain group because... he's Russian?
Yeah, but if he wasn’t in the Villain Support group we wouldn’t have gotten the gem of a line about crushing skulls with thighs.
In SF6 he's a good guy. You talk with him, and he informs you how he played the villain intentionally. He was narrative wrestling and they needed a bad guy, so he played his part. He mentions that behind the scenes he was friends with everyone and they all got along. They did him justice in the newest installment.
@@Cspence1010then he’s literally a heel, I love him
There is a reason for that. One of the people who worked on the movie never managed to best Zangief in one of the arcade installments. It's kind of why he's the one who says "it doesn't mean you're a bad guy".
The ending of this film is so moving. No matter how many times I watch it, it never fails to bring tears to my eyes. Truly one of Disney's best films.
The best part of the ending is Ralph staying in group therapy. It could’ve been just a bit, or a framing device, but I love the idea that Ralph didn’t quit because the first session didn’t quite go the way he wanted, or because he got his “happily ever after” and “didn’t need therapy anymore.” I love the implication that you can have everything you think you wanted & needed, but still be in therapy to support others (in group) and because maintaining good mental health is a journey & not a one-stop shop.
One thing I love is that at first Ralph beleives his medel with mean he's have a pent house, pie, fireworks ect. All very materialistic things.
However, all he really wanted was to ve respected and feel valued. By the end he has friends, comfort, gets to be bestman at Felix's wedding and even teaches himself that he needs the therapy that Badanon gives him.
He makes changes in of himself just as much as he gets people the change their opinions on him
Would you two ever consider reacting to Nightmare before Christmas for like a Halloween episode? Maybe you could analyze Jack Skelington's depression and hatred of the repetition and wanting a change in environment.
1000% YES
Yesssss please I would love to see this
Jack is a neurodivergent icon, I'd love this frfr
I saw this movie in theatre with my daughter: we both cried ! When she was 2-3 , she started to say little lies that didn't really matter, but I explained to her that relations are ladders that you climb by showing you are honest and thrustworty. If you lie , if you hurt someone, you slide and it's harder to climb back up .
That ladder analogy is EXCELLENT!
@@theladyamalthea she was into snakes and ladders at that time 😆
I know it's a weird thing to relate to a character about but Venellope's voice made me feel a lot better about my own. I've always had a very unique, raspy, and squeaky voice like hers and tbh for a while when I was a kid I felt weird about it and tried to make it sound "normal" on purpose. No one made fun of me for it but *I* had trouble accepting it. And then this movie came out when I was like 9 or 10. And I really liked and related to V, and her unique, raspy, and squeaky voice made me feel better about mine.
And then I hit puberty and my voice got strangely deep for someone born as a girl. Not a lie, I'm actually a low mezzo-soprano/alto, if you know anything about voice registers.
I don't think it's weird to relate to a character, I think that's the reason why they make them.
I relate to Venellope because I have epilepsy. When I was a kid, fellow students made fun of me and didn't want to go near me. Teachers were scared of me and kicked me out of their classes because they didn't want my seizures to cause problems.
I actually seriously adore those kind of voices.
@@anastasia_852 thanks, I guess? Lol
I sometimes feel like my voice sounds like gravel in a blender on high but it’s nice to know that people think voices like mine are cool. I do like it, but it’s so unique it’s easy to feel weird about it.
@@kittycatmeowmeow963 Ooof being treated like that sucks. I hope folks are better now, and you got good friends.
@@tracy4290 Oh yeah; it changed in highschool and beyond.
It's definitely hard to push back against a ton of negative voices and try to maintain your sense of self-worth. Everyone deserves one person in their life who would give them a "You're my hero" cookie medal, someone who lets you feel seen.
2:03 already I know I’m going to cry. I related to Ralph so much as the scapegoat in a family full of narcissists. Much like him, I was given the role of bad guy, but deep down I didnt feel like I was a bad guy. Ralph made me feel seen.
I was filled with so much joy when Jonathan mentioned that both he and Allan have ADHD and began to lightly discuss the details of the disorder and how it may be negatively perceived by neurotypical individuals. I am fortunate enough to never have truly experienced stigma regarding my own ADHD, but was instead provided the positive and nurturing environment I required so that I was able to hone my hyperactivity to my academic advantage. I now feel even more connected with this channel than I was before and I'm grateful for it. Please keep up the good work, gentlemen; you are making a difference.
One very important detail about Ralph's character and back story only comes out in a song at the end of the credits.
The apartment building is built on land that Ralph owned and that was taken by eminent domain. So just like Vanelope he is dealing with well dressed thieves.
"There is nobody I'd rather be than me" is such a beautiful line, always makes me tear up because for far too long I would rather have been in someone else's shoes when I should have been making my own.
Even though Wreck-It Ralph isn't one of Disney's highly regarded 3D animated films, It's one that I personally enjoy. In fact I always loved how Ralph is relatable because there are lots of people out there who know what it's like to be alone and to be treated like an outcast.
Watching this movie as a kid was a turning point for me. Its one of the first I remember not just enjoying the climax, feeling the worry with the suspense of the climax, but truly connecting and crying during it. I didn't realize it then but it would go on to relate so much to how I feel in my teens and on.
As someone with BPD....this Really resonated. If a villain is all the world will let one be, you really do start to kind of lean into it...
Stories like this one; and I think about the Iron Giant a lot in this as well - stories like this are a deep solace. The only thing that can make one feel seen, understood...and encouraged to become their best possible self. Good literature, filmic & written, is just so unbelievably important.
I love Lilo and Stitch for that, too.
My favorite Disney movie! I love the fact that technically Zangief isn't a "bad guy" but Rich Moore had such trouble beating him as a kids that he added him as one
I had no idea you two had ADHD! That made me really emotional. As a person with ADHD, seeing people like you guys with the same disorder as me makes me feel so comforted and happy 😌
15:02 "We tie our worth to our outcomes instead of our growth and that bites us every time." Thank you, Jono. I needed that today.
The only thing that makes me feel better about tearing up at so many scenes is the fact that Alan does too.
Every video, I enjoy the awesomely insightful commentary, and just adds layers of joy to films I love, but those impersonations at the end! Damn, you guys nail it every time!!
Thanks so much! 😊
The scene with Ralph destroying the car triggered a memory of my mom doing something similar to art (sketch books) and games I had. In her mind she thought she was doing the right thing and protecting me from the "bad influential things". That's definitely not the way to go about it. Thankfully, my mother and I have a much better relationship now. Communication is key.
The "directing the character flaw" reminds me of when Lava Girl's dealing with trying to find out what she's good for. She says "I am light". Such a moving scene.
I’m surprised they haven’t made a video on Shark Boy and Lava Girl yet
@@matityaloran9157 SB & LG is a great idea. And maybe the Spy Kids movies. 🤔 I think focusing mostly on Juni because he goes through a lot in 2 and 3
Just the first three because from what I hear 4 was terrible.
It is kinda corny though 😂
@@Boundwithflame23 Agreed. (And yeah, Spy Kids 4 was bad.)
@@matityaloran9157facts. Now I'm scared for the new reboot
Emotions hit hard when Ralph said she can't be a racer - which was her dream. He said it because of her glitch. Her glitch is considered a disability, a hinderance, something that prevents her from achieving her dream, because she can't control it at this point no matter how hard she tries. She wasn't given the chance to find alternative ways to make her glitch work for her rather than being stuck in a world its disruptive to everyone else.
Even though you know you are fully capable of learning, achieving, and fighting to make your dream a reality, you know you can't do that the way everyone else does. Your glitch won't let you. Fighting your glitch to take the same road to success as people without a glitch just hurts you, and when you screw up, you get, "See? I told you. You should have listened to me from the start. You can't do it."
I have ADHD, and the way Vanellope is treated because of her glitch - because she's different - resonates with me hard.
I wanted to get my pilot license when I was a kid. I wanted to learn how to fly, but no one knew I have ADHD and autism until last year (I'm 42 now). They just thought I was forgetful, spacey, and incapable of remembering complex structures or details. So when I told my dad I wanted to learn how to fly, he said, "No. You can't. You'll get distracted, forget what you're doing, and crash the plan. You can get someone killed."
I still want to fly, but with the way pilots are trained, he's right. I looked into it. The curriculum doesn't work for my ADHD. My differently-built brain won't let me make the cut no matter how hard I tried. I'm actually good at flight simulators. My favorite Sega game was X-Wing. It took me a frustratingly long amount of time to destroy the Death Star, but I was able to do it without getting hit by blaster fire once. No one landed a single shot. And the blaster fire was pure RNG. I just needed time.
What's horrible is that it makes me feel like a colossal, incapable idiot who always need someone to "help me do it right," or do it for me if I can't do the thing fast enough, or the way they want. This taught me at a very early age that if I couldn't live up to these standards, and I could hand it over to someone else.
The thing is, if it's something I'm interested in, I am VERY detail oriented to a perfectionist fault.
I'm a good driver. I was able to pull myself out of a spinout on an icy road where I hit an embankment instead of going off into a ditch, threw the car into reverse, and kept driving down before any oncoming traffic came by. It only hit me later on that my reflexes to hit the embankment, and steer into the skid saved my life. Or at least saved me from injury and major car damage. Now if I can just learn how to drift. :)
I can do it. I can focus my glitch. I can get this done. I just can't do it using a neurotypical method. I need help, more time, patience, and a different execution strategy. With enough time, patience, some help, and a different strategy, I can control my glitch and make it work for me.
This neurotypical world doesn't have the patience or ability to deal with that. Either I live up to their standards and do it their way "the easy way," they say, or I'm a burden to society. I'm broken.
If you can't get it done perfectly, quickly, with no mistakes - and do it again the same way - you're considered a failure. The working world - the restaurant world especially where I work as a server - wants this. And if you screw up too many times despite giving it 150% of your effort, you're out.
There are so many jobs where the requirements for hire all boil down to, "Neurodivergent people need not apply" without actually saying that, or they'd get in trouble.
That's always been the problem.
My 'glitch' doesn't work in this world.
I'm a creative person. It only works in mine.
I mean, my one friend who has ADHD (From what I remember, but a lot of people in my friend group are neurodivergent, including me, so it's hard to remember who has what sometimes) but he's been training to become a pilot. Think he's almost complete with the course too, though I'm just not sure what it was exactly, might need to ask him about it again.
@@Furydragonstormer I'd love to know if he passed!
Unfortunately the FAA is still in the 1950s in terms of medical certification. They’ve recently changed it so you can do it, but you have to be off of ADHD meds for 4 years, otherwise the process is super long and expensive (upwards of $15000), and even then you have to stop taking the meds. Autism as a diagnosis is even worse, I had selective mutism and the FAA required me to do a bunch of stuff even with that small diagnosis. If you want to just fly for fun, I would look into flying gliders or getting your sport pilots license, neither of which require a medical certificate. I wish you the best of luck though, and if you have any other questions feel free to ask
I've had to deal with ADHD comorbid with Autism since around age 2, when I was diagnosed. It was good to have it diagnosed early, and my mom raised me and my sister (who shares my diagnosis) well, especially as a single mom, but the way she explained autism to us was very damaging. The way she explained it made it sound like there was something fundamentally wrong with both of us. We both did well in school (especially my sister, she's absolutely brilliant), but we always struggled making friends and doing things outside our comfort zone.
Once I got into theatre, something changed. Even though theatre is an amalgamation of things autistic people normally struggle with (super abstract concepts, tons of socializing, loud noises, bright lights, etc), I was so drawn to it. I loved it. And I was pretty decent at it despite my challenges. When I thought about what I wanted to do in college, I said theatre. Both my parents heavily discouraged it (including my super supportive dad who taught me how to sing), and for good reason. But one of the reasons they mentioned was that there's still a stigma around autism, so I'd have to go around denying a part of me just to be considered for hire in a field that's already really fickle with hiring. But I persisted. It's only been about 4 years since then, and sometimes I struggle, but when the people around you don't make you feel othered by your disability, it helps a lot. There are several people in my small class that are autistic, and it makes me feel like I finally don't have to fully hide it. I've talked to them, and we've helped assure each other that we can do it. It helps a lot.
Wow that was a lot. Sorry 😂
I know how you feel, I'm not sure what I can be described as ADHD, but I certainly take too much time to do things due to my train of though seeming to take forever, perhaps it is ADHD, but I've never been able to create a clear distinction for myself as to what I do have. But point being, I could not have gotten through public school as everyone else did, I was lucky I qualified for student accommodations in high school and college. Now that I'm done with college however, now comes the scary part that I'm not entirely sure what I want to do or what to do, or for that matter what I want to do or what to do while still being allowed a place for my accommodations. I'm lucky my accommodations specialists in college had hooked me up with this government job site for people who have disabilities. If you're wondering about what the site is called, it's called Workforce Recruitment Program, or wpr.gov
2:44
This is a brilliant opening to the film. In a sentence, with the Bad Guy Affirmation the writers have established the struggle that Ralph is going to have throughout the film.
By the end they turn it upside-down as Ralph’s journey changes the world around him and changes his perception of himself and the world around him.
14:15 reminds me of Nick Wilde's quote in zootopia when he says "when everyone expects you to be the bad guy then there's no point in trying to be anything else". Stigmas like that prevent people from reaching their true potential bc society wont accept them as they are and despite being different they truly are wonderful people inside with amazing gifts to offer the world if the world would just let them.
25:46 Interesting what you said about Ralph falling like Superman, because Superman is rising when he makes that position. However, Ralph is FALLING when he makes that position. I could interpret this as symbolism of, yes, him in the position of traditional superhero, but also accepting himself as being a “bad” guy, thereby reversing the position and making him upside down and falling. If that makes any sense. 😅
Oh man, you know a movie hits all of the right buttons when even just the intro to this vid is getting the waterworks going.
Ahhh yes! Wreck-it-Ralph is a big time favorite 🖤 the overall messaging is fantastic. Super enthused to watch your video today 🎉
Thanks! Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you ❣️
Preach, it's one of my favourite Disney movies to date, and honestly deserves more love.
24:36 the name of the trope is chekov's gun. where everything presented actually has a meaning and is necessary at some point during the film
The falling scene got me ugly crying at the movie theater, and the next 20 times I watched it after that 🥺😭
Neurodivergent person here! (I have ADHD and am Autistic) Your comment about some of the strengths of ADHD and how you two also have it made me feel very reassured and happy. I know being honest about being neurodivergent can be a hard and scary thing do because of how much it is misunderstood and stigmatized (which is something I’m trying to work on lately as well) so it’s very comforting hearing people be honest about their experiences. Especially because ADHD is a lot more common than people realize! People like you make me feel hopeful for the world. :)
Us ADHDers are some of the most passionate, creative, interesting and resilient people around. I love finding out that people I love and look up to also have it.
I love how Wreck It Ralph shows it only takes one sincere voice of belief and trust can provide you all the courage in the world to change what society has been pressuring you to be. Thank you for this internet dads!
When it feels like the world is telling you how much you suck, it's amazing how powerful a lifeline a single voice offering a different narrative can be.
That is so true❤
@15:30 This part always moved me because Ralph misses something so important here. He started a quest to get a medal so that he could be *accepted* - so he could be up there with everyone else, and get invited to parties, and everyone would know his favorite type of cake - but he oversimplified that into "shiny medal = penthouse". Now he has actually done something heroic, and been given a medal for it, but he's so focused on the shiny medal he didn't even really earn that the significance escapes him.
I'm just so glad you guys did this one for us, because I love the message. Some other movies with a similar theme include Free Guy and A Knight's Tale.
I love the first scene of the movie, because the Bad Guy Anonymous meeting seems to be modeled after Alcohol Anonymous meetings which I grew up with as a kid because my Dad brought me to them. They were always a comfort and having a small nod to that comfort just makes me happy!
I'm thrilled you all did this one, it's perhaps the one movie that I most wanted to see you all cover. It's my favorite Disney movie, one of my favorite movies in general. The bad guy affirmation played a big part in helping me with my own critical self-loathing and image. Maybe I'm not a bad guy per se, but I sure felt like a monster. It helped me to learn to love myself, and work toward a more positive outlook. There is no one I'd rather be than me.
Okay but rewatching this movie recently and seeing ralph break vanellope's cart? that broke me.
I'm young enough where I've seen a good handful of movies, like this one, when I was too young to fully understand everything, and then watching it as I got older I realize how profound it is. This is one of those movies that has aged SO well for me, and I'm so glad it exists.
17:00 everytime this scene comes up, I turn my head away. And yet, I don't need to see what happens, the sound of things breaking to pieces and the desperate tone in Vanellope's voice as she begs Ralph to stop make it perfectly clear what's happening on screen.
And even without seeing any of it, those sounds are enough to bring tears to my eyes every time. Like John says: "The power of film making."
Indeed, my man, indeed.
indeed
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. As a geeky gaming 80s kid, I can't even convey my excitement over seeing all of these games and characters represented together! It was like seeing Disney and WB characters sharing the screen in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Mind blowing! I will never tire of watching this movie. It's one I could put it on any time and enjoy it every bit as much the 100th time as I did the 1st time... maybe even more. There are always things to discover in each viewing.
Also, Jono's King Candy impersonation was on point!
P.S. Ralph Breaks the Internet was TERRIBLE! I was excited for it initially because this one was so clever and perfect, but HOLY CRAP was I disappointed!
Even though I don't even play video games, I still LOVED this movie since they made everything so cute and had such attention to detail :D
Regarding Ralph Breaks the Internet, I liked the FIRST half but omg the second half was just weird and terrible I agree lol.
@@sathvamp1 Agreed, the first half set up a premise that could have paid off beautifully if handled correctly, but then they obliterated ALL of Ralph & Venelope's character development with insanely bad narrative choices and the way it ended was just bafflingly stupid.
For me, Wreck-it Ralph shows that we have jobs sometimes where we have to be "the bad guy". There are IRS, police who give tickets, parents and teachers who have to enforce rules. But we don't need to be a bad guy about or a jerk when we do our job. If Ralph wasn't the bad guy in the game there wasn't a game.
Omg, Jon. 😂 You do a perfect impression of King Candy! (Impersonation? Lol)
Anyway, thank you so much for choosing Wreck It Ralph. I’ve always loved Cinema Therapy, especially so when you analyze my favorite movies. As it explains a part of me and my personality every time I hear you talk. You always seem to help me learn more about myself and what I need to work on or improve. I know; technically you’re not my therapist, but it certainly feels like it at times. I appreciate that. Don’t lose that empathy, you two!
I knew this was going to be a good episode. That part in the middle about telling the truth even though it sucks sometimes. Definitely relate to that. A couple years ago I wrote a couplet. "The hardest lesson to learn is that hiding your feelings protects no one. The hardest thing to accept is you don't need to protect anyone but yourself."
It doesn't fully fit the scene, but as a father, watching Ralph destroy the car in front of a crying little girl was gut-wrenching. The burden of trying to do the right thing even though it causes your loved ones pain. Oooof.
I’m bad and that’s good. I’ll never be good and that’s not bad, there’s no one I’d rather be than me. I was sobbing as a child and I still sob now 😂😭
Even as a kid, I realize how this message resonated with me since Ralph himself wants to find who he truly was aside from his job and role as the "bad guy" and on the way also befriended an outcast that made him realize what it truly means to be a hero in a way that doesn't just involve glory
It's a treatment to how great that scene was that I'm tearing up just reading your comment. Words displaying on my phone and the tears start flowing because my brain remembers that scene.
@@Techydad I have sooo done that before while reading comments! Not for this movie (or most - it's REALLY hard to find a movie that makes me cry actually), BUT it happened for me regarding the movie "Nimona." Including while reading (or writing) comments, watching reactions or the actual movie or its clips, "Nimona" got me a total of 14 times! That's still the only movie to get me upon any number of repeat-watches.
@@Techydad same!! The impact is like no other. (T . T)
20:56 he didn't want the penthouse, he didn't want to be 'on top of the cake', he wanted true connections.
These type of movies always get me to tears. It’s great to hear the perspective from both of you about all the fantastic ones you’ve shared.
On another note, I recently reached a new understanding about our conversation a few months ago, with the Morgan Freeman movie, about not being interested in things related to JC. I was brainwashed and manipulated for nearly 10 years. You’ve both helped me through much of the turbulence said “relationship” had that I wasn’t able to understand. I hope you’re able to forgive my ignorance. The name I used back then was “Resistakill.”
"One of Disney's best films" - "That's a bold statement," but I wholeheartedly agree. As someone who has loved video games from a young age, and as someone who suffers from Tourettes Syndrome, Non Epileptic Attack Disorder and Affective Dysregulation ie has physical and vocal movements they can't control, I feel this film was made for me. When I was first diagnosed with my conditions, I didn't want to accept them because I had experienced years of feeling othered, and I didn't want to be defined by my conditions. Its taken many years but now I speak openly about my conditions, as well as my experiences with mental health and as a parent of four daughters, all of which inspired me to start my own business creating children's stories that empower children and adults to talk about mental health. This movie as well as inside Out are amongst my favourite films of all time because of the impact they have had on my life. Might I also take a moment to celebrate the two of you (as well as all the other people who make this channel possible). I always find your videos insightful and entertaining, and I always come away with lessons that I use to be better myself both as an individual and as a creative storyteller. Keep up the great work everyone 🙏💙🤙
4:31, I like how Felix is actually trying to diffuse the situation instead of fighting over it (unlike Gene who actually is a jerk.)
I love this movie. One big question I had by the end of the film is. Are the Nicelanders being kind to Ralph because they see his value or are they terrified that if he leaves again that's it for them?
The former plus they probably heard about how he tried to sacrifice himself
@@antonissa8345I’d argue that Gene is the only one who falls in the latter. He doesn’t have any empathy for Ralph when he opens up about why he left.
It could also be that Felix advocated for Ralph. Felix has Good Guy Privilege - he gets pies and medals because he's a good guy. At the beginning of the movie, he can't see past his Good Guy Privilege to see how horrible Ralph's life is. In the Fungeon, he finally understands.
I imagine that, once the game resumed, Felix used his Good Guy Privilege to help improve Ralph's life. People trusted him because "he's the good guy" so he could use that to help overcome the Nicelander's fear and mistrust of Ralph.
Of course, I imagine Gene was a holdout - acting nicer but secretly still hating Ralph. You'll notice that the only Nicelander to get exploded by dynamite in the "bonus level" scene is Gene. 😁
@@TechydadI've never seen that! WHAT!!!!!
Maybe the Nicelanders did get a little bit wiser
17:07 the guttural scream is so insane because in newer shows/movies I've seen lately that scream is never there, like in the fnaf movie when the spring suite crushed Steve we got basically nothing, or fallout when Lucy looses a whole finger we get nothing but a gasp, but here? A kids movie where a car gets smashed? The bloodiest gut wrenching screams I've ever heard.
John C. Reilly is just one of my favorite character actors of recent years. He spends a lot of his time being Wil Ferrell's sidekick in some Adam McKay movie or another, but he's got a lot of great low-key roles. He was perfectly cast in Chicago.
I haven't seen this movie but now its now its in my movie bucket list. I love how children's movies can have such deep, profound messages. I also love hearing the commentary by you people. So true that we all have our strengths and weakness; its how we chose to use them and direct them. (I kinda paraphrased it) like sometimes what we think our weaknesses are could be our strength when we understand it and use it in a different direction. I just love it.
There's a big difference between "children's movies" and "family movies." I see RALPH as the latter.
Children movies are often better because it's so hidden under all the fun. You would never hear this kind of story told in this kind of way in a grown up movie.
“There is no one I’d rather be than me.” This film has always been one of my favorites, and has always felt like a great means of putting into perspective that you don’t know what other people experience. Constantly being the “bad guy” may be a matter of being subjugated to that role so extremely by those around you that you feel like there’s nothing else you can be. Being the “good guy” may be a matter of being so afraid of failure and letting others down that you hold yourself to almost impossible standards. Everyone has their storms and everyone has their wars - we need to share more love and compassion over what others are experiencing even if it’s something we don’t understand.
Extremely glad you guys keep doing this
THANK YOU for doing this!! When I was going through my (second) divorce, this movie was my comfort and I couldn't explain why. But years later, I understand; it spoke to my internal crisis of faith in who I wanted to be versus who I had become in the marriage.
Hearing both the bad guy affirmation and the line "You are bad guy, but this does not mean you are 'bad' guy." Really feels hard and hits harder than before now hearing those lines again.