The 3 Dimensions Of Perfect Record Cleaning: The Klaudio!
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Nice video, you really showed and demonstrated the quality and simplicity of the KLAUDIO.( The Designer Peter is a genius and record collector so he thought of everything) Since Acoustic Sounds sells rare original Lps this product improves the grade and condition of the Lp we sell. Also we own a Pressing plant Quality Record Pressing we clean the Test pressing before we play them to get rid of any static or noise. So this machine is a life saver for us and we cannot live without.
Chad- how did you live without it BEFORE this machine?
I have a question - is this to be taken for an “industrial” tool or not?
Great question, i think with the Add-Ons you can ay its industrial standard. The overall quality is for sure industrial standard
Chad amazing to have you as an OBC member.
With your standing in producing the best sounding records out there,comes as no surprise you use the best cleaning machine,
Nice to hear from you Chad,come over and join us anytime 🙌
I’ll say it does nothing that a decent clean would do Try n clean up a 70s RCA record it will do nothing and for that money you could go tape and bypass the whole problem
So $6500 for the machine and for the silencer and the multiple changer, another $5000! Outrageous! Why would you show something like this!? Has this and the vinyl community become a place to flex and say how much money I have? Seems like to me people who are doing this are saying how rich I am! Go look at my set up where I do eight records at a time in my ultrasonic and it cost me $200! Don’t be misled and don’t believe the hype! If you really are bothered by the sound, which is minimal, set it up out in your garage! My machine still kicks ass on this one and we don’t need to play games with air drying as opposed to forced air drying! Both dry the record so don’t even start with me! I have amazing results and those who have watched my record cleaning video and comment on my videos says that it’s working beautifully for them too! $11,500!!! Beyond outrageous it’s ridiculous! $11,300 for bells and whistles, which is stupid and it doesn’t help make your records any cleaner! Maybe it makes you feel better about your records when you lay that kind of cash out!
I’m sure it’s a fantastic machine along with a fantastically high price
2024 prices, including all add-ons, parts and record adapters = $13, 813.91, without taxes on Acoustic Sounds website
That Klaudio is insane, Michael. Now I understand what all of the talk is about. Anyone who takes you up on the offer to clean their records is likely to be very pleased with the results. Thank you for sharing. I look forward to future videos of yours that are not necessarily limited to vinyl releases.
Very Cool. Thank you for sharing. Your enthusiasm for this hobby & your business acumen comes thru in your videos. Well done Sir!
If you are doing financially well and want to go ALL IN, for the record adapters, filters, backup parts, the bigger silencing case to accommodate the disc changer, the disc changer itself, without taxes, everything on Acoustic Sounds comes to $13, 813.91. I am not at a level where I can afford a product like this, but I am absolutely putting it on my future wish list. As long as prices don't increase from here, one day in the future, I would absolutely invest in a wonderful state of the art product like this. THIS THING IS A BEAST AND SO ARE THE ADD ONS!
Nice machine for $6,500 + $500 for the singles and 10" inch adapter + $2,600 for the 5 LP cleaning attachment + $1,700 for the silencer.... A real bargain for people living in assured poverty. Seriously, has anyone ever thought about the material value of the parts used. It may be the best cleaning machine in the world, but I'll stick with microfiber cloths, cleaning solution of isopropanol, distilled water and wetting agent. Drying is done with my old Okki Nokki. Top results and no scratches by cleaning, as the manufacturers of this expensive money washing machines always want to tell us.
You sound like that guy that walks by an ad for guitar lessons and starts screaming I DON’T WANT GUITAR LESSONS!! If it’s not for you just walk away and don’t buy it.
@@Bruno-Melo Nice comparison, but unfortunately not applicable. If you could read between the lines and recognize irony, you would have noticed that I'm talking about a far too expensive product here, which would be interesting for a much larger circle if one would make a realistic price. Anyone who has the money is welcome to sink their money into this machine. I'd rather buy records. I don't buy my own car wash for my Porsche😉(Caution: Irony)
@@theheepster I understand. It’s not for you. That’s fine.
It’s not for me either! It’s pretty ridiculous. I guess some people have more money than sense.
of course the people with money are always the most stupid Bo8740
So impressed with the Klaudio. Thanks 45, for this excellent video!
my pleasure. thx for the kind comment Multi
A fantastic demonstration of this machine! Thanks
I am so glad that KLAUDIO is back in the ultra sonic cleaning business and even more that you’re bringing this brand to Germany and Europe respectively. Kudos Michael
Thx jazzmetal :-) so nice to hear from you again!
This is so cool! And the build quality!.. I can imagine myself cleaning dozens of records while on my listening sessions. Excellent vid
I really wonder why this influencer advertising is not marked as sponsored advertising. I’m 99,9% sure the device/add-ons isn’t purchased for the regular retail price. Isn’t this illegal in the EU?
This channel went a slippery slope over the last 9 months.
how is your channel doing? fine?
@@Michael45RPM I have no RUclips channel. Not planning on creating video content. 2023-24 just testing hypothesis, product-market fit, and feature-set with a MVP status website. The classic lean product playbook. Next iteration is spring/summer this year. Is this what you were asking for? :)
:-)
I agree. I think the content is distorting the channel's original meaning.
@@sararibeiro4034 Absolutely. Of course it’s legit to go from a hobby to business. What I’m missing is the declaration. Like many in the channel want a clear and precise declaration on record if it is AAA or not, I’m missing the declaration if a video is sponsored through discounts or partnerships by brands, manufacturers, or businesses. It’s not only about transparency, also when doing the influencer business, the discounts count as taxed income.
Very nice video Micheal
,and super nice machine!
Awesome piece of kit and a great video demonstrating it. Thank you '45 RPM Audiophile'. Much appreciated.
I have had my Klaudio with the 5 disc changer for 4 years now. It was a game changer with simplicity and improvement in sound quality using only water. 😎
This looks awesome, would love one of these. May have to sell my whole vinyl collection to buy though.
Wow that's is a game changer and an amazing commitment to record cleaning business A++++
Thank you for showing!
I enjoy using my SME Loricraft machine because it is relatively quiet. It’s a string machine taking about 15-20 minutes to clean a record if you follow the instructions.
All of the online videos I’ve seen rush the process and fail to follow the Loricraft machine instructions.
I have one and I gave up on using the Loricraft. DId a great job but too labor intensive and does not get to the deepest portion of the groove like an ultrasonic.
Fantastic video. Kudos, Michael. Very impressive. 🙏
And what did Parlophone clean with?
EMITEX? Hahaha. A light scrub with my Okki has done a great job for 10,years. Wash with a gentle surfactant formula and rinse with distilled water.
Awesome demo
Thanks for sharing
Amazing, slightly better than my Knosti with L’art du Son but also slightly more expensive! I’ve put it on my Christmas list. Thank you for this very interesting video.
Impressive piece of kit and well demonstrated, Michael!
Again an informative and really inspiring video, even if this machine is still bit over my budget but dreams are my reality….😎👍🤟
Thank you from Canada Michael. I had not heard of the Klaudio record cleaner, it seems to be a very premium product, with a lot of clever engineering. I would appreciate it if you could report back in a year to give us your experience on the durability of the machine. There are less expensive automatic ultrasonic cleaners that have not proved to be so durable.
Thanks Mike , clearly this is a video intended to showcase the functionality of the machine , I don’t believe this can be viewed anywhere else on RUclips or retail shops , you taking the time to display is appreciated. As far as the financial practicality, like all technology breakthroughs, it will only get better and more affordable with time, cheers 🥂.
ruclips.net/video/WFKzWlaanmo/видео.html
Mike, from the In Groove, who has several of the machines, made an extensive RUclips video some months ago.
@@michaelmerinar8355 thank you, I’ll check it out …
@@chaky1978 👍, I would have sent you a link, but I don’t yet know how to do that.
Michael this video,this machine are as you described game changers
Production value,editing on a different level.
Klaudio machine including the 5 record cleaning & the silencer make it a leader in its field.Now it’s not cheap,cheaper ultrasonics out there,but man what a bit of kit.
I’ll continue to rinse my records under the tap 😂.
Interesting Ingroove & Acoustic Sounds use the Klaudio.
Mike has 5 going at any one time.
Must be great with reliability of the highest order for these two big guns to be using them.
Looking forward to next episode Michael.
Congratulations on the video.
Sure, Klaudio is awesome, but few of the vinyl lovers can afford it... very good alternative is Knosti Disco-Antistat 2 (white version) together with Disco-Antistat Ultraclean concentrate. Another improvement is additional rinsing in the second disco-antistat bath (can be bought separately) with demineralised water only. This additional step improves cleaning and adds shine to the record. Highly recommend you to try it - it is fairly affordable option. Even old dirty records become clean after this method (you should clean dirty LPs for a bit more time). I can't see any signs of dirt on the stylus with this cleaning method. Before that, I have also rinsed LPs under the tap - you will be surprised about the improvement! By the way, don't be afraid of non-alcohol Disco-Antistat Ultraclean fluid, it works VERY good, I thought that IPAlcohol is a must to clean all that dirt from old records, but it is not...
@@mykolamisyura8107 thanks great recommendation
@@mykolamisyura8107 I don't think the Knosti Disco-Antistat is a good deal. Get a broken record player, cleaning fluids, a brush and a few microfiber cloths. Samer or better results, almost no costs. A good and "cheap" record cleaner in my opinion is the Pro-Ject VC-E.
Thank you very much, have requested such a program before. Invested in a cheaper machine audio desk systeme vinyl cleaner. Personally, it's the best I've done. Much more important than buying an expensive record player and stylus
Today I cleaned a Columbia 6-eye Benny Goodam sextet featuring Charlie Christian that was pretty well scratched and scuffed and it played acceptably well with occasional clickes and some surface noise. I used a vac system with tergitol and distilled wster and a rinse stage. I dream of having such a beautiful cavitation cleaning machine. But, nevertheless, if you pay attention to cleaning, as you say, your listening pleasure will be enhanced. Great vid!
Very nice congrats, I have the Kirmuss ultrasonic and works very well for my budget.
Thank you for the video review of the Klaudio and some of the accessories. I too replaced my Audiodesk with the Klaudio last May. I found your comments to be the same thing I would have said if I was writing the review The Klaudio does an amazing job and when I clean a record I previously cleaned with the Audiodesk it is even quieter.
.Based on your review of the 5 disc changer, I ordered it after watching your review for the second time. I just got it this morning and I love it. I can see where the design should be foolproof, with one possible exception. That is the pin you use to secure the changer in place on top of the Klaudio. You remove one hex screw to receive the pin on the changer. I assumed it would also be threaded to securely attach to the female screw threads. However mine is just a pin and the diameter is smaller the the screw hole. The changer can rock about an 1/8" / 3mm up and down. Also where the new pin isn't threaded and doesn't screw in or lock in any way, I worry that the pin could be dislodged accidentally, causing the changer to fall off the Klaudio. Does your machine work this way with a loose pin?
Also on your video, your Klaudio sat on a rubber pad the looks like it was custom made just for the Kladio with corner marks etc. Where did you get that? I don't see it on either the Acoustic Sounds website or Klaudio.
Thanks again for the great video. You have simplified my life. I often get 10 to 15 records at a time and this will be great. InI fact I am in my office typing this while a batch of 5 records are washing in my Kitchen. I can now clean records and have 50 minutes of uninterrupted time.
you get the pad with the silencer JFM
Thank you for that. What about the screw to secure the changer to the top of the Klaudio?? Did you get a screw that securely fastens the LP Changer to the top of the Klaudio or a loose fitting pin that allow you to rock the changer up and down #mm?
Forget listening to the LP for entertainment. Just watch that way cool cleaning system and be mesmerized
@@rpmAudiophobes exactly
I use a guy in Wisconsin who’s company is called Perfect Vinyl Forever. His cleanings are extraordinary - it’s like the veil has been lifted when I get them back. He also flattens warped records.
Of course there is a price, including freight. But, offset against the expense of a Klaudio machine and the time I would have to spend cleaning them myself, I think of the price as quite reasonable. I learned about Perfect Vinyl Forever from your pal and colleague Danny.
A second point, if you don’t touch the playing surface of the records, handling them by the edges and the labels, your vinyl cleanings will go very far in maintaining the quality of your collection. You here is meant for the readership, Michael 45 handles his records properly.
However, some RUclipsrs put their fingers all over the grooves; it makes me cringe when I see that.
I've been interested in starting with that service, but looking at the site online, it wasn't entirely clear to me if they still offer the $5 per lp cleaning service, or just the $8 one and up. If the two basic levels are still offered, have you tried both, and if so, what is your personal sense of the relative difference between the two- the ultra-deep 2.0 cleaning and the archival 3.0 level? Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated!
Nice bit of kit. Wish I could afford one. I thought the silencer was going to be a bit naff, but actually looks well designed and adds that sterile environment feel to system to make it even more special
Just need to organise a second mortgage on my home and I will order one.
Michael- Would love to hear you compare against the humble hunminguru for the majority of us out there that can not afford the Klaudio
I love my Okki Nokki. A lot cheaper but does the job.
Tolles Gerät. Sind halt €10.000 fällig. Für Profianwender oder Sammler mit 5.000+ LPs bestimmt eine gute Sache.
Wenn man aber - so wie ich - unter 1.000 LPs hat und die schon gewaschen sind oder aber sukzessive beim nächsten "Höhrenwollen" mal schnell gereinigt werden und die Neukäufe ebenso ist das Overkill. Steht ja dann nur rum.
Aber - wie gesagt - tolles Ding!
Cheers
Stefan
It was only a matter of time before you got one of these. Fair play, it does look like the Rolls Royce of record cleaners but at that price I doubt I'll ever meet anyone that has one. I doubt I'll ever go into a record shop that has one! Does this mean you'll be donating the Audio Desk Systeme to a lucky subscriber?! 😉
Thanks for the video, i love this machine even though i will never be able to afford it. If wishes were fishes.
Luckily my local hifi store has one. They offer a weekend rental for $100. I can rent it many times before approaching the buy price. I think this might fit the advice I was once given, "if it Flys, floats or fux, rent it don't buy it". 🤔
Very nice........!!!!! 👊
Is there any reason you didn't mention the price of the machine and accessories?
He didn't want thousands of people to faint.
Congratulations Michael. Looks like you have went all out. The unit is $6,500. For those looking at the price the multi changer is not necessary Not having seen one in action it looks a little risky to not scratch up your records when you load or remove them. Comments? The silencer is very useful. $1,700 for the single design and $2,360 for the jukebox 5 lp adaptor. I have the single and can listen critically 2 rooms away. There is a much smaller silencer which fits the machine without the 5 lp adaptor.
Only distilled water. Period.
You are the only person who showed it actually running - thank you
But you should have shown the external tanks so someone has an idea of what they are getting into space wise. Where do you have it located?
I have the original LP-200 which has a self contained reservoir and pump. Sturdy as a tank, drain ever 100 records or so. Drain with hose, tilt to get all water out. Unscrew the back - clean the minor residue on the walls of the water reservoir with a cloth. Simple, effective, self contained, slick. It looks like the new model is super easy to clean. It is not a chemistry lab.
I have owned mine since fall 2013 ($4K) and in 8 years have cleaned over 4,000 records flawlessly.
So rest assured you will get long life with the KLaudio.
I am glad to see other options in the ultrasonic crowd. And lower prices like the DeGritter.
I am glad Chad Kassem at Acoustic Sounds got KLaudio to keep making these.
If you have a big collection this is like a significant cartridge upgrade and the ease of use - slip the record in and forget it - is wonderful. Who wants to slave over records?
Thanks Michael,
Some people, who use a ultrasonic machine, finish the process, by using a separate final purified water rinse, using a pinpoint vacuum machine, like the Keith Monks, to suction the dirty rinse water.
If you have one of those Classic Records 45rpm discs, where one side is blank, it would be interesting to see if the Klaudio leaves that surface clean and shiny.
P.S. if you do have a blank sided one, be sure to put some fingerprints on it to make it a good test!
It may be my eyes, it may be my screen but whilst that record is being dried and when you hold it up it would appear that there is a mark on that record it shows at 5:16 and 5:31, maybe its the light but sure looks like a mark in the vinyl. Anyway, thats for you to check and investigate. Cleaning records is so so important, even with my modest collection each record is cleaned prior to being inserted into your recommended sleeves and then sealed in decent reusable outers, and it makes a big difference to the sound. One day when I win the lottery I'll upgrade to that beautiful cleaner, but for now I just dream about owning one. Nice video.
its a water drop.. its during the drying process Martin
Quit a beast of a machine Michael 👍
After watching videos like this I totally understand why people sold all their vinyl and are 100% digital even though I'm a 80% vinyl listener and collector.
Me too I like a decent system but some of this kit is ridiculous. I see a guy who cleans with one machine de statics with another checks it on the flattening machine before each play 🆘
I am one of those people. I sold my complete collection (mainly Jazz, Originals, Private Pressings, Audiophile Reissues, etc.) two years ago and invested some of the money in a really good DAC and SACD-Transport. It sounds amazing and I never looked back. For the price of this record cleaner you can get a pretty good DAC that will show how good digital can sound.
@@mdebbable
I'm not that brave, I bet it probably felt good getting rid of it all though.
Beautiful looking machine Michael. Wish I could afford one. I have a basic Nitty Gritty and am happy with it.
so you have a cleaning device... thats what counts imho
@@Michael45RPM Early on, after I started to get serious about listening to records I purchased an inexpensive device called a Studebaker, sort of like a Spin Clean. However, after awhile I decided I wanted something better and, after consulting with my dealer, purchased the Nitty Gritty. Yours look like it must be state of the art. Nice!
No Martini added ?
CDs are the real game changer. Crisp audio, no inner groove distortion and no need for a washing machine, broom, cleaning solution and god knows what other crap.
It is SACD if you are serious about the real game changer.
Nice bit of kit 👍 I'll stick with my converted jewellers ultrasonic cleaner.. and it cleans five records at a time £150 👍
Hi Michael, thanks for all you videos! also for this video 😉. What i´m missing is something how maintenance is to be done, how often? Can you do that by yourselve
or does it have to go back to the manufactor? Do you have to change filters? Cleaning fluid? can you mix it at home or do you buy it?
The record changer add-on, while it sounds great in theory, looks like it would be matter of when, not if, a record gets scratched by those metal arms as you're trying to load. I was holding my breath as you were demonstrating it fearing you'd scratch a record! There's a way to change the design, though, that would eliminate that potential problem - maybe Peter might rethink that a bit.
You really get used to it, although you have to be a bit careful, thats right
Enjoyed this advertisement enormously! Pure eye candy. Beats all other thrills a man longs for. As long as you are able to justify the cost, have no restrictions on budget and do not care about the diminishing returns on a machine like this then by all means: buy one. But as much as I like your video’s, I wonder which part of your hobby is still about actually enjoying music?
My sense, is that Michael is an honest and fair minded person, but the added special production values, while excellent, took the video, for me, into infomercial territory.
Particularly with the addition of the emotional music.
I do feel, though, that the basic content of the video was useful to us viewers.
It stands in stark contrast to the recent video, with the bad sound and video, about clear covers for album jacket covers.
With my respect to Michael, his regular calm and honest videos, for some time now, look and sound excellent!
I use Kirmuss ultrasonic with Upscale Audio upgrade and finish on a VPI 16.5 with excellent results. Disc Doctor record cleaner fluid is endorsed by Kevin Gray. See Kirmuss video for water prep.
That thing looks fantastic. It's like the Ferrari of record cleaners. And the price reflects it. $6500 for the cleaner alone. $3000 for the disc loader and $1700 for the case and that's an $11,000+ system there.
I'll have to stick with my old $100 Corolla level vacuum set up.
If could match your Continuum Caliburn turntable setup pretty well
The technology is absolutely brilliant. Sadly, the cost puts it beyond the reach of most.
Many people think we're crazy for, not paying for the Klaudio, but _investing_ in one. When you have a precious anything that you collect, you wakt to preserve it. I began really taling special care of my vinyl in the early 00s, collecting since the 80s really. But I wish I had cared better for my things. Anyway, I sure would like that mylti disc cleaning accessory!
Edit: the noise has never bothered me... it's a small price for the results, right? Mine stays upstairs in the back room, can't hear it. But I wasn't aware there was a dang silencer and that thing is pretty impressive! That's significant to near entire silencing of the process. I really need to pay more attention to the accessories of the Klaudio, even if I may not be buying them. Perhaps someday? It's all a process, no? 😉
Es fehlt nur noch die kurzärmlige Hausjacke mit Zopfmuster, dann ist das Spiessertum perfekt! Danke.
On a personal note I find it rather annoying that when u buy an audiophile pressing for 100 Euros plus that it isnt cleaned from the beginning. I hear these arguments that its dirty produktion etc and you must clean but if you are a serious audiophile label why not clean the records before delivery. Why deliver out dirty products? Why deliver a product that isnt optimal when so much energy is spent on improving everything else?
I would love one of these but cannot justify the $ when compared to the cost of my collection and equipment. When I buy from the In Grove, I pay for cleaning. When not, I use my Project cleaner and it works well enough. For special records, I send them to Perfect Vinyl Forever. Thanks again.
A very interesting review/demo of the KLAudio record cleaner (a machine to which I aspire), but if possible, I'd love to hear your thoughts about how it compares to the other high end ultrasonic record cleaner, the Audio Desk Systeme Vinyl Cleaner Pro.
Michael Fremer did a recent review of the KLaudio.
He mentions that the Audio Deske is actually not a full ultrasonic cleaner
A Klaudi(a) who makes a name for herself.
Experience has shown that a diva has airs and graces.
A woman like this, because of her talent, needs proper nurturing and regular checking.
Otherwise the diva gets in a bad mood. :-)
😜Heike
She 💃 likes it pretentious and glamorous.
ultrasonic cleaner with 5 record attachment cost me around 200 usd plus record vacuum machine, my workflow is to wet ultrasonic cleaning and after that spraying distilled water and sucking it out with vacuum machine, records sound much better no need for expensive machines
From the standpoint of an “industrial” solution, this machine is unique in the market. However, from the standpoint of actual cleaning results, it is not.
A machine like the Humminguru operates at the same frequency (40KHz) and has similar cavitation power per unit volume (60 watts but is energizing 400ml of water compared to the ~1/2 gallon of the Klaudio).
The Degritter machine operates at 120KHz with 300 watts - the higher the frequency the smaller the bubbles so it gets in deeper into the groove. Additionally, the Degritter filters the water DURING cleaning (like a pool skimmer) removing the debris from the water as it comes off of the record. The Klaudio filters the water as it is sucked into the machine from the external tank.
If you are looking for a machine that will clean your records as perfectly as possible, you might consider other options.
It looks amazing and the reviews that I have seen are awesome. However there’s more than a bit of product placement in there and Chad’s endorsement might be seen as a little less than impartial? However I don’t doubt how great it is though and, despite the cost, might one day be tempted if it retailed in the UK.. I can’t pay FedEx any more (cash on demand on the doorstep).
Keep up the good work Michael.
Great video and great machine...I thought my pre-SME Loricraft PRC4 was expensive! I got a nosebleed from the heights of the Klaudio:)! But it's worth it with a huge record collection and great system... I would love to know how the Loricraft 4 compares to the Klaudio for single records.
The Loricraft is a nice RCM - It and the Keith Monks are a lot of labor, vacuum well but doesn’t go as deep as the ultrasonic catenation process. The KLaudio sounds much quieter, micro details, really removes gunk in the grooves even the bonding elements in new vinyl.
@@audiotomb The Loricraft 4 takes 1+ minute per side with a hospital grade pump. It supposedly sucks everything out of the groove using L'Art du Son liquid.....I would be so curious to see EM scans of records cleaned from both machines......I just watched a video from 2014 with Mark Baker of Origin Live. In it, he praised the Loricraft 4 as the best way to clean records and how it can rejuvenate recently bought, uncleaned records that don't play well. I will be emailing him to see if he has changed his mind to the new RCM's out there. The Klaudio+5 records looks fantastic though.
Ok, Michael, we are talking about values (the records). But let’s be honest. The theory, that boys evolve till the age of 8. Than they only grow in length. I totally love it. Darling, you have to visit your parents alone. I have urgently to clean records. ❤️😂 And this machine really is our kind of thing, isn’t it.
Totally :-)
Btw cleaning fluids are not just soaps. Surfactans for example assists the cleaning by reducing the surface tension which is acts like barrier between the fluid/bubbles and the record surface. Paying 10k for the complete cleaning equipment and than using just distilled water is like putting the cheapest available oil into your Ferrari (just to pick up the Ferrari example of the video)
Good evening
When you show the silencer demonstrate it with the vaccum drying fan which is louder than the ultra sonic process. I listen critically 2 rooms away while cleaning records
Damn, that is a cool record cleaner. I imagine the price of all of that is more than the price of my system, plus a few of my records 😂
In My Dreams!
Would be nice to have a comparation between this and the Humminguru just to see how much of a different it is. Most expensive vs the cheapest.
It’s a Ferrari as you say and not many can afford one during their lifetime but we can look in awe on the once that can. 😀😀
@@rpmAudiophobes yes you are probably right.
@@rpmAudiophobes thanks. Really appreciate it! Yes imagine Alan doing a doc on this. “The other side of Vinyl”. I would watch! 😀😀
The problem with the Humminguru and others like it is that they are underpowered devices, not able to create the cavitation bubbles needed to clean a record well. They might be OK for "lite cleaning", but not nearly as effective as a "real" ultrasonic cleaner like the KLAUDIO. Any ultrasonic cleaner using a wall wart or power brick for a power supply should be looked at long and hard before purchase. They are convenient so there is that and not as messy or time consuming as vacuum systems. But the vacuum systems likely provide a better result at a similar price point.
In my garage, cleaning amused to death on an ultrasonic cleaner, watching a RUclips video of you, cleaning amused to death on an ultrasonic cleaner…😂
Not a Klaudio though. Just an isconic with the kirmuss adapter. Wishing I had a better way to dry than air and microfiber cloth.
Michael
Congratulations on your new Ultrasonic.
Does the silencer keep your whippet from getting annoyed.?
Could you please show how the external tanks handle the water and debris?
Mine has been invaluable having cleaned around 5,000 records in the last 10 years. The KLaudio has been around since 2013. The original design is great - bigger with a self contained water tank - all in one - you don’t need an outside tank - you drain the chamber every 100 records, the water is just barely discolored. You wipe the small amount of film out of the tank from the back access, refill the water chamber and back to clean another 100 records. Straight Distilled water, nothing else - also confirmed by Tim at KLaudio. The silencer on the old one is much smaller and you can’t use it with a multi loader. I get nervous watching someone handle 5 records in a multi loader stack - easy opportunity to scratch something while handling lps. Not to mention imho the huge price better spent on records or a cartridge upgrade. It is very easy to just set a timer or walk by and pull the record out at 8 minutes and load another one.
You also do NOT have to clean a record repeatedly with the KLaudio - once and you are good to go.
Just place the lp in a good sleeve and use a reliable soft dry brush before playing.
It removes static from records as well. Have fun
Michael- How could you neglect to mention the price? Isn’t that of major importance? This looks like a great machine but only for the well-heeled. Except for the silencer, I don’t see the advantage over the Degritter, which depending on accessories can be 1/2 to 1/3 the price. Yes, with the KLAUDIO you can clean five records at once. I can clean five records on the Degritter in probably the same time. Admittedly, I couldn’t clean them all at once but who cares? You still have to take them all out of the sleeves and put them back in again. Yes, you can clean all five without being in the room. But for the price, I don’t mind coming back a few times to load a new record.
To clarify the above, you can load five records at once but only clean one at a time. So essentially, the amount of time needed to clean five records is about the same as the Degritter depending on time cycles.
let's agree that people who are into this hobby seriously, money is the least of their problems. space probably
Hey- they can always buy a new house!
I was one of the first persons to make a comment on Massies post about having to wash a record after using Tergikleen. I recently had to colored disc get a permanent haze to the record while using Tergikleen and an ultrasonic cleaner. It is possible it happened to me because the records dried first before I rinsed them. I believe I will no longer use Tergikleen. I do use all distilled water as well.
Baby oil or wd 40 is what I use on oldies
Hi Michael,
Thanks for shipping the Klaudio to me. You mention using destilled water. The manual specifically mentions not to use destilled water, but rather tab water or bottled drinking water. Which is true? Br, Claus
All together it's a very expensive system that I wish I could afford , I use the kirmus and works very well can't imagine how much better Klaudio is
Hey Michael, so would you still recommend the Audio Desk, having experienced the difference?
Yes of course, its a fine cleaning mashine!
Just thinking on all this "cleaning talk" & yes I do clean my LPs old and new when I get them (using a VPI) but all those Near Mint Original LPs we buy - from the 60s & 70s that sound so fantastic - do you think people back then had all these expensive cleaners? Did they fuss and preen over the LPs like we are encouraged to do? And yet how do they sound those old pressings? Superb compared to new pressings & re-issues - those old LPs survived and still sound fabulous despite not having a VPI or sonic cleaning - they likely were lucky if they saw a cleaning cloth! I think this is all just getting crazy 😜
Hi Michael, Guten tag. How's it going with your KLaudio LP200T ?
Michael,
Assume you have been using your LP200T for some time now, have you needed to clean inside the machine in particular the internal tank and if so, how have you managed to clean it with it being a sealed unit (unlike the older LP200 model which had a large cap you could unscrew to get inside the tank and with a stick and cloth able to reach all of the edges and corners !) ?
And if you haven't cleaned, and or visually inspected the internal tank, how do you know the internal tank is clean and that no particulate debris is finding it's way to the surface of the record ?
Hello Michael, I realize this video is about your new cleaner, but I'm curious, what compelled the change-out of the Audio Desk?
I ask because I recently bought one, and I'm now hearing more about bad experiences with it.
For instance, I saw a video from @Sonicflare and he referred to it as junk--that he had a horrible time with it.
Since you had your unit for years, I was hoping to hear your perspective on this issue?
Much appreciated.
its for sure NOT junk. its a very decent recordcleaner. The klaudio is my choice now, but he is of course way more expensive. he cleans way better imho, the drying process is superior, and i can clean 5 records in a row with one take.
A Gartner Analyst recently wrote in a research note - “Product roadmap slides obtained from Klaudio suggest electron microscope capabilities within the next 12-24 months. They’ve recently hired key wireless engineers from Cisco Systems, so we should anticipate mobile users being able to view what will appear to look like boulders being dislodged from the record surface. This should open up a new sales channel for Klaudio in a space we’re currently coining as Anal Audio Retentives or “AAR”.
Wow, sehr geil. Bleiben die Label auch vom Wasser verschont?
Ja klar!
I have the ultrasonic from the polnish guy on ebay and it works well with with my 6LP variant. No fast drying sadly but I can handle that.
There are to many records that look perfect after cleaning and still producing pops which drives me crazy. Don´t know if the Klaudio really removes
everything, I would expect that for this price. looking with a microscope should show you nothing after cleaning.
Is it that way Michael? Can you be sure and feel relaxed when you put an cleaned LP on?
With my solution it is always stressing wondering if it sound silent or not and THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH for my taste
The 'In' Groove did show this Klaudio machine once and I was interested in it, but would only consider if EVERY record gets is pops removed.
Scratches sure are a different thing but a good looking LP shouldn´t create any pops IMO
One thing that immediately had catched my eye was the speed of rotation! In my opinion, it‘s a way too fast. I‘ve tried several different ultrasonic cleaners and one of the most important features to get a clean result is the speed of rotation …
Hi Michael, Guten Tag. Great video. Looks like the KLaudio KD-CLN-LP200T and it's accessories is a great Record Cleaning Machine (RCM) system & machine.
Since it's been well over a year now since you have had and used the KLaudio KD-CLN-LP200T and it's accessories, are you still impressed with it ? Have you had any issues with it ?
Have you compared the KLaudio LP200T with the Degritter MK2 or any other RCM ?
I currently have the Keith Monks Classic (KMC) RCM (which the BBC Archiving Department used to use to clean their records) which I use for a Pre-Wash and Rinse Wash. I would now like to also buy an Ultrasonic RCM to do a final wash and rinse after the KMC RCM. I am considering whether to go down the DIY route (i.e. buying and using an Elma Elmasonic Ultrasonic Bath (Model: P120H - which has 35kHz and 80kHz ultrasonic cleaning frequencies) with a Kuzma RD Ultrasonic Cleaning Kit) or buy the KLaudio KD-CLN-LP200T or the Degritter MK2.
The concerns I have with the KLaudio RCM is 1) the very high cost, 2) If it breaks down I would need to ship it overseas to the US (I currently am based in the UK), 3) It only has the one (40kHz) ultrasonic frequency.
Your views on my questions and thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Danke.
Really like the video and it’s a great solution. But 11.000 USD with all the accessoires?
hallo michael, vielen dank für das video. aktuell habe ich immer öfter das problem mit gewellten oder verzogenen platten. sogar von VMP und QRP. das passiert halt. ich frage mich jedesmal, wann ist es noch akzeptabel, oder wann sollte man reklamieren. hast du da erfahrungen, kannst du darüber berichten. das wäre toll. vielen dank und lg, helmut
eine verzogene Platte würde ich umtauschen
Get a vinyl flat - $120 and you will find records in your collection that need it
lovely piece of kit. puts my carbon brush to shame :-(
I thought that UHQR, Original master recordings etc. don’t have to be cleaned because they are so superior...
I believe all vinyl records have a mold release agent present and the labels don't bother to clean it off, so even brand new albums need to be properly cleaned before playing.
This is the machine for those who spend $20K on a turntable. The rest of us have to se our sights much lower. I can't even justify a Degritter for what I have to pay in Canada let alone a Klaudio at $10K. Charles Kirmuss machine is waaay more affordable at $1300 Can. HGs are much cheaper but a lot of people are complaining about reliability. VPI or Pro-ject vacuum systems are more cost effective. Spin Clean is much too expensive for what you get, that's a clear rip-off ($2 of injection molded plastic).
Audiophile$. They see us coming from a mile away.
I believe that the klaudio may be the best available but at over $10,000 dollars it certainly should be. I've been cleaning my records for 40 years and can attest to the advantage of it. I can only dream of the results of the klaudio
We are talking about $13K with the 5 record changer, silencer, and the external filtration. I'll stick with my Degritter for $3K. LOL.
So Michael after some days, would you say that the Klaudio does remove EVERYTHING out of the vinyl or are there still LPs you would say there are some that even the Klaudio
doesn´t get 100% clean and so popfree?
5% needed a 2nd cleaning, talking OG Pressings here
@@Michael45RPM but you would say the listening experiance is pop free after 1-2 cleaning sessions? That would be great, i have so many LPs were i would say still have "something" left in the grooves and i hate it when those come out of nowhere, i want a totally silent experiance during the songs
Nothing will remove every speck of noise, the KLaudio gets as close to that perfection as possible. If a record has light hairline scratches etc you will hear them. It nicely removes static in the process.
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The part where you place the records on the changer, isn't it a bit risky to scratch the record?
just concentrate a bit and all is good imho
@@Michael45RPM haha right!