The Downfall of Philips - Exploring an Abandoned Lightbulb Factory

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  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024

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  • @gerhardhager2376
    @gerhardhager2376 10 дней назад +12

    My father has been working at EMGO as a financial director for 36 years (66-92); I was in this factory several times, when I was a small boy. Yes, I do remember many of the spots show in the video ! Many thanks ! Great souvenir.

  • @RandomerFellow
    @RandomerFellow Месяц назад +50

    It brings a tear to the eye...
    However, Atlas Copco, founded in 1871, is thriving.
    One of my greatest childhood memories is when I received a Philips tape recorder for Christmas.
    Furthermore, I have a decent collection of new light bulbs from Philips.
    They give a much nicer light than anything else.

  • @Aranimda
    @Aranimda Месяц назад +52

    I'm Dutch and what happend to Royal Philips Electronics can make me sad. The company still exists but is a shadow of it's former self. With most of the current consumer products being made by other companies who licensed the Philips brand and/or designs. They're now a medical equipment company, but even there they are not doing very well at the moment. For consumer products: I think they still make the Philips Shavers themselves, and they are among the best in the world.
    Interesting to know is that important semiconductor players NXP and ASML both started as departments under the Philips company.

    • @Zweefduiker
      @Zweefduiker Месяц назад

      Destroyed by the greed of CEOs like Boonstra that had nothing with existing company culture. Moving headquarters to Amsterdam (would be the same as BMW moving headquarters to London) , selling off parts, no real development of new technologies etc etc.

    • @dicdicd1767
      @dicdicd1767 Месяц назад

      @@Aranimda the fault is the European union. They don't want anything to be produced in Europe.

    • @robertbrown3413
      @robertbrown3413 Месяц назад +1

      Philips shavers made in Netherlands (not China) are excellent.

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman Месяц назад +1

      @@robertbrown3413Just like everything else there are Philips Shavers made in China and Indonesia, but yet Philips still make shavers in The Netherlands.
      As in a way Philips made Magnavox and products for RadioShack, and yet just like RCA Philips outsource some products to Asia and now you have South Korean brands like LG and Samsung dominating the market and now the Chinese are taking over.

    • @LetomDeCambrai
      @LetomDeCambrai 29 дней назад +2

      Philips is almost a finance company, empty inside, no industry

  • @TheBrummie60
    @TheBrummie60 26 дней назад +9

    I had a brilliant Philips' radio construction kit as a kid, complete with transistors and all sorts of components.
    To actually hear it come to life on completion, attaching the batteries, was an absolutely wonderful feeling of achievement.
    Been fascinated by all aspects of radio ever since.

    • @dannysdailys
      @dannysdailys 7 дней назад

      Yes, Heathkit did that to the extreme.

  • @t.anthony3940
    @t.anthony3940 Месяц назад +7

    More urban explores need to be like yourself. Show, report and respect the area your visiting .... Thank you for sharing and stay safe!!!

    • @ForgottenBuildings
      @ForgottenBuildings  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks Anthony for the kind words, glad you've enjoyed the video!

  • @garbo8962
    @garbo8962 Месяц назад +36

    We found that the longer life 4' T8 lamps from Phillips were best in class. Could replace a few hundred Phillip 4' fluorescent lamps 20 years ago and never have a bad one. It took GE two years to finally sell off thier USA lamp division ( maybe 2 years ago. They went from fairly reliable to garbage. Just removed a two lamp ballast from a 50 year old florescent luminare to better performing ballast bypass LED. while in continuing education class one inspector/teacher always stated that " Bulbs go into the ground and lamps go into luminares ".

    • @kevxsi16v
      @kevxsi16v Месяц назад +9

      I would agree we had French made Philips masters here in 2, 4’ and 5’ that would last like 20 years or more. I still have some in service now.
      I avoid led where I can and still maintain fluorescent.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Месяц назад

      garbo8962
      Singapore, Philips Lighting in Asia, the only goal was LED, able to develop the full spectrum light we needed.
      The Boonstra years, outsourcing it all. We knew it was over in 1989, we grew Philips Taipei into, Philips still is TSMC, ASML, NXP too.
      Frits Philips was the great visionary guy in the 60 ish years.
      Natlab is now all over the globe, it just became bigger and bigger.
      You own stock ?

    • @AS-fm6iw
      @AS-fm6iw Месяц назад +1

      I'm an electrician and to me philips is on the top for quality

    • @PlanetIscandar
      @PlanetIscandar Месяц назад

      Over 15 years ago, when the dirty CFL became obligatory, i bought dozens of bulbs, to use them in the next 2 decades. I think i still have enough for 20 more years from now.

    • @gregorymalchuk272
      @gregorymalchuk272 Месяц назад +1

      GE fluorescent lamps have really rough, lumpy phosphor coatings. I think they moved all the production equipment to China.

  • @bigwa6526
    @bigwa6526 Месяц назад +8

    My first portable vinyl record player was a Philips and the memory still hold dear.Thank u Philips!

  • @RenselProjects
    @RenselProjects Месяц назад +8

    Worth mentioning that Philips initially started in the small town called Zaltbommel. But the local government was afraid that manufacturing lightbulbs could be dangerous for the local people so Philips was forced to move to Eindhoven where they become famous.

    • @ForgottenBuildings
      @ForgottenBuildings  Месяц назад

      Never knew that but for sure an interesting piece of unknown history, thanks for sharing.

  • @Spazcan
    @Spazcan Месяц назад +12

    I worked for the Phillips company in an Incandescent lamp factory located in Canada (mid 90's) It was a fascinating complex process. The factory closed after I left. I was told that production was moved to Mexico.

    • @syproful
      @syproful Месяц назад

      It’s hilarious that all major industries move to cheap labor nations. Now they lack the knowledge and will buy from their former slaves.

    • @jimhaines8370
      @jimhaines8370 Месяц назад +1

      Before China

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman Месяц назад +2

      Not just lightbulbs, they move other product production to Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, and Malaysia.
      Now it is all China and Indonesia.

  • @Sujoy6.9
    @Sujoy6.9 Месяц назад +54

    I have owned some philips products in the past and still use some... I loved Philips products. I will miss the OG Philips as now most of the Philips branded products are made by other organizations

    • @DrDre-ir4gu
      @DrDre-ir4gu Месяц назад +5

      @Sujoy6.9, Same here, the Video 2000 videorecorder, CD player and bigger laserdisc player and so on. Nowadays PHILIPS is just in to medical equipment, yes you’re right, all consumer electronics is under license, produced by other companies,

    • @TechOne7671
      @TechOne7671 Месяц назад +8

      Phillips made good stuff back in the eighties and nineties. As an electrician who has changed hundreds of lamps over the years, Phillips lamps were the best. SON, SOX , fluorescents and incandescent lamps all good. Not like the led garbage of nowadays.

    • @scoobyblu5815
      @scoobyblu5815 Месяц назад +1

      I installed Chinese LEDs 15 years ago everywhere never had to change one to date Don't miss changing bulbs every 12 months No I don't miss Phillips, the CD was mostly Sony 😅

    • @echomande4395
      @echomande4395 Месяц назад +2

      These days Philips has concentrated entirely on medical systems. It split off its lighting division about a decade ago. I always thought that while Philips might have been highly innovative, its marketing sucked and return on internal investment expectations were unrealistic.

    • @kkteutsch6416
      @kkteutsch6416 Месяц назад +1

      I've worked 50 years later at Philips Service with television and audio products of reliable and excelent quality, now even japanese brand left the market and chinese products are dominating - and so vietnamese ...

  • @bobkids009
    @bobkids009 Месяц назад +31

    It is very sad to watch this video...... A once giat factory is now being abandoned and with only sweet memories of the past ....... Phillipis is a great household name that everyone knows in the East or the West .....

    • @PlanetIscandar
      @PlanetIscandar Месяц назад +2

      Exactly, but they wanted to promote the dirty technology of the CFL and later the LEDs and abandon the natural light of the good old bulbs.

    • @marcrodet4900
      @marcrodet4900 Месяц назад +2

      Philips downfall, notably in lightbulbs, is self-inflicted. Philips refused to develop and sell more energy efficient, longer lasting lightbulbs because of its greed. It sacrificed consumers' cash, electricity and the earth limited resources (thus resulting in massive pollution that people and nature still suffer from), for its own benefit. Then when newer, better technologies appeared, it was too late. Philips has also sold many products of only average quality at premium prices, selling in fact its brand. Other manufacturers provided way better products, often at lower prices
      Had Philips introduced efficient lightbulbs when possible, this would have saved consumers and the planet considerable ressources, and Philips would not have exited this business. Philips has only what it deserves

    • @PlanetIscandar
      @PlanetIscandar Месяц назад +2

      @@marcrodet4900 Couldn't disagree more. The bulbs were sabotaged by the well-known centers that promote LEDs and mercury. Technology has existed for years for lamps combined with lasers that can last centuries and deliver tremendous amounts of light.

    • @bobkids009
      @bobkids009 Месяц назад

      @@marcrodet4900 Well said and explained....!

    • @marcrodet4900
      @marcrodet4900 Месяц назад

      @@PlanetIscandar You seem contradictory. If it's not Philips' fault, why didn't it sell those better bulbs? Why did it keep selling ancient bulbs that consume lots of electricity and do not last long? And this has nothing to do with LED. (You do not seem to know which technology I'm referring to)

  • @robertgoodall4525
    @robertgoodall4525 Месяц назад +5

    I'm in New Zealand. Philips was huge here with several manufacturing plants producing all sorts of things. Hard pressed to find anything with the Philips name on it now except for hospital equipment and lighting. I collect and restore the Philips valve or tube (depending on where you live) era radios mostly late 1920s through to the early 1970s. Well respected brand in NZ except perhaps with some service technicians who often found Philips radios quite complicated and unnecessarily difficult to work on compared to other locally produced radios. Thanks for your interesting video.

  • @bozosplayhouse
    @bozosplayhouse Месяц назад +34

    They made a lot of quality electronics and even semiconductors.. once the separate companies began to be sold of to thwart bad business decisions, that was the beginning to the end of Philips. Their semiconductors were very innovative for the time, Philips/Signetics was the predecessor to NXP today. The innovation of solid state lighting was the end to their CFL and incandescent lighting lines. Sad to see the page turned on such an innovative group of companies.

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman Месяц назад +2

      TMSC is also a Philips spinoff yet Philips have had Spinoff companies all over the world.

    • @Mickyu
      @Mickyu Месяц назад +1

      Even ASML was spun off of Phillips as well

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman Месяц назад

      @@Mickyu yeah the list goes on probably an SK company that probably make small appliances could be a spinoff of Philips.

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb 20 дней назад +1

      Their Lumi/LED led division was started as a joint Hewlett Packard Philips company, then Philips took it all over, it was the biggest LED maker at the time, and highest quality, they spun off LumiLED as another independent company some years ago

  • @mar4kl
    @mar4kl Месяц назад +4

    Beautifully done, and I really enjoyed your narration of the history of Philips in general and the factory in particular.

    • @ForgottenBuildings
      @ForgottenBuildings  Месяц назад

      Thanks for the compliment, more history packed places such as these are coming soon.

  • @joebarrett4353
    @joebarrett4353 Месяц назад +12

    A truly European innovative giant. Sadly missed.

  • @a.i.n.8476
    @a.i.n.8476 Месяц назад +4

    I did my internship here in 1989. It is located in Turnhout, Belgium. For my internship I made a new design to hold the lights and I also wrote a maintenance plan for each part of the machines. They mainly made large lights for highways.

  • @christianvonhout997
    @christianvonhout997 Месяц назад +21

    I have seen the factory working, I have been there a long time ago, I worked for Philips Lighting Terneuzen, we had bulb and flare glass from Emgo, and a few years before the factory in Terneuzen closed we had a bulb machine from Emgo and one of the employe's from Lommel to teach our operators to work with that machine, sad to see the factory in Lommel in that poor state, and Philips Lighting Terneuzen closed in 2016, all the production moved to Poland

    • @NMGN75
      @NMGN75 Месяц назад +1

      Heel jammer dat ook Terneuzen jaren geleden gesloten is, heb daar in m'n jonge jaren in de zomer van '91 een rondleiding gehad op de starter afdeling, hal V als ik het goed heb, ogen uitgekeken daar.
      In die tijd verzamelde ik TL starters en na wat informatie gevraagd te hebben in Eindhoven is dit in Terneuzen terecht gekomen, en volgde de uitnodiging om eens te komen kijken. Einde dag heel wat speciale starters en merken die gedraaid werden meegekregen, heb ze tot op de dag van vandaag nog altijd bewaard

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb 20 дней назад +1

      And now the Poland factory is also closed

    • @christianvonhout997
      @christianvonhout997 20 дней назад

      @@NMGN75 dat was inderdaad hal V waar de starters en glimlichten werden gemaakt, ik heb er van 1993 tot 2016 gewerkt, mis het nog steeds

    • @q3dev
      @q3dev 7 дней назад +1

      @@cengeb The Polish factory in Piła still exists, however it's not doing well. Signify Bielsko was shut down this year.

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb 5 дней назад

      @@q3dev Sad, how Philips was once #1 in so many products, and competencies. Lighting, consumer electronics,tvs, crt, even one joint with LG, LG Philips Display was the biggest maker of flat panel displays,analytical xray,ran largest private research lab...even owned the world's largest brass instrument company Selmer. 100,000 active patents at one time, more than any other company

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 Месяц назад +3

    Nice video!! keep it up. Nice edition and narration.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo Месяц назад +12

    Very illuminating doco, thanks

  • @pascalcoole2725
    @pascalcoole2725 29 дней назад +4

    It's sad to see such an inovative, good for staff and contributing to community company has fallen to greed and incompetence.

  • @joebryant5722
    @joebryant5722 Месяц назад +6

    All hail the 1541DAC!!! The best digital processor I've heard on a CD player. I still have them.

  • @RanjeethMD
    @RanjeethMD 13 дней назад +3

    Competition is cheap and that is the problem.

  • @markedis5902
    @markedis5902 Месяц назад +2

    I worked for Philips lighting in the UK. When LEDs came in they couldn’t move quick enough due to their culture and even though they bought other companies to try to keep up, when they applied the ‘Philips way’ to them it ruined them and they failed. I originally worked for ECS lighting controls who were the market leader, Philips took the company to pieces bit by bit replacing the people who knew what they were doing with “Philips people” and it ended up as just a name under the Philips banner. They then acquired Dynalite and did the same thing. It was sad really

  • @esterparis1190
    @esterparis1190 Месяц назад +3

    Some incandescent and tungsten filament lamp factories have avoided closure thanks to the invention of LED filaments. The tungsten metal filament has been replaced by an LED filament that lights up the same but WITHOUT heating. This allows the manufacture of decorative vintage bulbs.

  • @obelic71
    @obelic71 Месяц назад +10

    Philips spawned very important companies.
    TSMC in Taiwan, NXP at Nijmegen and AMSL at Veldhoven, Signify (former Philips light division using the Philips name) at Rijswijk
    Still till today the Natlab (physics sciencelab) at Eindhoven holds the most patents worldwide.
    Philips today is mostly a licensed badge name on 3th class Chinese made electronics.
    In Turkey quality coffee and cooking kitchen equipment is made unde license.
    High tech medical/personal hygiene equipment (US and Netherlands made ) is still made by Philips
    75% of the quality stuff made by Philips has disapeard.

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman Месяц назад

      Thanks to Philips you have Samsung and LG dominating the market.

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 Месяц назад

      @@Embargoman A Philips TV is a low end not so great quality product today. I also have a LG TV and Samsung computer monitor.
      Panasonic and Sony now also buy their LED panels from LG and Samsung.

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman Месяц назад

      @@obelic71 Because it is now made by a Chinese company that uses the name I am just talking about back then in the 1980s and 1990s when Philips use to make their own TVs, yet nowadays it is now known for shavers, it is back then Western companies use to make their stuff in Asia for low labor.

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 Месяц назад

      @@Embargoman Labour costs skyrocketed in the late 70's and 80's in Europe and Japan
      Electronics build in that era were quality build and labour intensive to make.
      New tech like micro electronics were parts were glued solderd onto very small boards instead of classic by hand solderd on big boards ( Sony developed it to reduce the size of a walkman to a minimum).
      Automation and producing in developing Asian countries ( South Korea was till the 1990's one) gave way to big assembly plants. European and Assian countries outsourced production to Rural China.

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman Месяц назад

      @@obelic71 RCA where to blame for contaminating waters in Taiwan, but Philips on the other hand never heard jack of what they did in South Korea, but I am sure that both Sony and Philips work together beyond the development of the CDs, yeah even Philips use a South Korean factory to make certain Sony products.
      But look at the end see how they are right now and even spun off companies from SK that came out of Philips besides TSMC of Taiwan.

  • @v8pilot
    @v8pilot Месяц назад +6

    About the philips logo my dad used to say "The crooked line, the vicious circle and the double cross".

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb 20 дней назад +1

      I worked at a Philips div for over 10 years, the logo was told to be the double cross on both sides of the ocean

  • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
    @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Месяц назад +2

    Growing up in australia I had a phillips tv, Phillips portable radio, Phillips lightbulbs, phillips electric razor, Phillips cassete deck boombox, phillips microphone, phillips lamps, Phillips car bulbs, phillips valves, and then cooking appliances later like an airfryer, headphones, and so so much more.

  • @ablaauw70
    @ablaauw70 12 дней назад +1

    Geweldige film heren!! Leuk om een kijkje te nemen. Alleen raar dat het allemaal er nog gewoon staat. Je zou verwachten dat er al iets anders gebouwd zou zij.

  • @arneminderman3770
    @arneminderman3770 Месяц назад +7

    Geweldige video! Thanks

  • @paulfontaine7819
    @paulfontaine7819 5 дней назад

    I worked for Philips in the 80s and visited that EMGO factory in Lommel. The speed at which light bulbs were ejected on a moving carpet was impressive indeed. A neighbour Philips plant was also producing glas tubes for TL lighting.

  • @dzonikg
    @dzonikg 19 дней назад +2

    I have still working Philips 50 inch plasma TV which i bought in 2006 ,its still working but has not been used for like 7-8 years becase it draws power a lot ,LED replacement is like 1/10 off power .Back in 80s in old Yugoslavia Philips was name for quality so i still remember domestic commercial that was just like this "Filips je Filips" or "Philips is Philips"

  • @philsteele7151
    @philsteele7151 Месяц назад +15

    Philips were massive when i was younger, a mate of mine worked on laser disc machines for them, i have used Philips semiconductors but most fabs are in the far east now.

    • @Chris-hy6jy
      @Chris-hy6jy Месяц назад

      The original Philips fab in Manchester UK is still going. It's owned by Nexperia now but still some parts of the site haven't changed since the 1980s. The fabs themselves have been updated of course.

    • @philsteele7151
      @philsteele7151 Месяц назад

      @@Chris-hy6jy I worked with a woman who's husband worked there, she once said they could never close it as the site was so contaminated, I had to laugh to myself, while they do use some pretty nasty chemicals it's a "modern" process so environmental controls were being established as it started life, and it's a fab, they are the cleanest places on the planet.

    • @Chris-hy6jy
      @Chris-hy6jy Месяц назад

      @@philsteele7151 yeah, I work there and they have a lot of abatement equipment to reduce emissions. It's generally a very clean site considering all the chemicals and gases that are used in the production process.

  • @Whatchamawhozit
    @Whatchamawhozit Месяц назад +2

    That plant was still there when I visited in 2015. Philips is now more of a life Sciences organization focusing on Medical device for vital sign monitoring

  • @archmcdonald6170
    @archmcdonald6170 Месяц назад +5

    Philips also made welding electrodes, I worked at the Australian factory.

  • @jmikronis7376
    @jmikronis7376 Месяц назад +3

    In the end, everything goes to the cheapest labor market till the market gets tired of cheapest market. It’s at that point consumers will pay the extra for better goods.

  • @freds7988
    @freds7988 Месяц назад +6

    Europe industry is dying. Year after year. Without happy end . Our factories close and become paradise for vandalism and urbex youtubers, and exceptionally a museum . So sad.

    • @miwa4783
      @miwa4783 Месяц назад +1

      Yes our politicians took out what competition couldn't take out, e.g. entire textile production industry wiped out with insane environment politics and now agriculture is next in the line

  • @beamer.electronics
    @beamer.electronics Месяц назад +6

    A wise old man (perhaps a tad cynical) once said to me: "All relationships arrive with an alarm clock!" I also tend to apply this to humanity's 'progress'. Empires are built and then turned into dust by new ones to arriving - no empire is safe! Humanity is also an empire - do we have an alarm clock running?

    • @briansatchell2319
      @briansatchell2319 Месяц назад

      How True

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb 20 дней назад +1

      I had several Philips digital alarm clocks, have 2 in use now....

  • @lightbulb3247
    @lightbulb3247 Месяц назад +4

    Great video 😊

  • @gertstuve3933
    @gertstuve3933 Месяц назад +13

    Ik werkte voor Philips Lightning in de jaren 80 in Weert en Eindhoven. Als engineer weet ik alles over gloeilampproductie. Helaas, alles is weg…

    • @RandomerFellow
      @RandomerFellow Месяц назад

      I've always wondered how the vacuum is created in light bulbs. That must be one hell of a vacuum pump!
      Care to tell me a little?

    • @gertstuve3933
      @gertstuve3933 Месяц назад +4

      @@RandomerFellow there is a small glass tube at the bottom. That is where the vacuum is pumped with a good Swiss or German vacuum pump. After that the tube gets heated and clamped close. The useless lower piece is broken off to make space for the brass or alu cover.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Месяц назад

      gertstuve3933
      Boonstra, voor hij zelf de CEO werd, had hij Philips Lightning naar Singapore outsourced.
      Alleen nog investeren in dat LED spectrum, dat hebben we toch goed gedaan, daar produceren, hier ontwikkelen.
      Nu gaan we dat dus weer anders doen ? Weer terug halen, BBB, alles maken in eigen land ? LED hier produceren, hoe denk je dat te kunnen doen in die woonwijkjes in NL ???
      Radio lampen, waarom ga je die niet verder ontwikkelen, daar is echt een vraag naar, dat kan je gewoon zelf thuis opzetten. Daar willen mensen wel geld voor uitgeven, en is een grote vraag naar.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Месяц назад

      @@RandomerFellow Learn how to blow gas bottles first please, just a small step to radio tubes.
      Inject the fitting in a vacuum when the glass is still hot and flexible enough !
      You can do this yourself at home

  • @platinaatje6134
    @platinaatje6134 Месяц назад +7

    Evoluon, goede herinneringen aan!

    • @ulin4226
      @ulin4226 Месяц назад

      I visited the Evoluon in Eindhoven several times as a teenager. Good memories, indeed!

    • @Zweefduiker
      @Zweefduiker Месяц назад

      They had a very nice technology museum in there. Was very interesting to visit as a kid.

  • @personalwatching9312
    @personalwatching9312 Месяц назад +1

    I'd love to see this!

  • @quanchyplimp
    @quanchyplimp Месяц назад +1

    Interesting, I've known the name Philips all of my life (50+ years), it was a brand name that was trusted by my parents and their parents.
    But today, so many products are replaced with off brand Asian manufacturers, who seem to make nothing but rubbish, poor quality parts/components/tools. Sad to see what has become of Philips.

  • @stphinkle
    @stphinkle Месяц назад +2

    Phillips used to be one of the great electronics and lighting giants. They made many products over the years including shavers, radios, Stereos, Cassete Decks, CD Players, VCRs, TVs, Semiconductors, Lamps, Theatrical Equipment, Appliances, and many other product lines. However, they recently sold off many of their divisions and transitioned to being primarily a medical product company.
    Phillips does license their brand name to other companies in non-medical lines.
    * Phillips Appliances was bought by Hillhouse Capital.
    * Phillips Lighting spun off and became Signify. This still uses the Phillips Branding. Some of their other brands transfered as well including Vari-Lite and Strand Lighting as well.
    * Phillips HDTV got sold to TPV Vision.
    * Phillips Semiconductors got sold to Private Equity firms Kolbreg, Kravitz & Roberts, Bain Capital, Silver Lake Partners, Apax Partners, and ALpinvest, and becamse known as NXP Semiconductors.

  • @kkteutsch6416
    @kkteutsch6416 Месяц назад +3

    It's a shame to discard filament lamps that had a minimum metal and mostly recyclable glass bulb, now are crafting economical fluorescent and led lamps which electronic circuit fails in a very fast time, with some products - capacitors, resistors, diodes etc and the leds that are no recyclable parts and polute a lot more the environment...

  • @Cadadadry
    @Cadadadry 18 дней назад

    I am still using everyday a 1972 Philips AM-FM radio with two original speakers, a 1989 two-heads electric shaver, as well as a 2009 24" computer screen.
    Items of such high quality are made nowhere in the world any more.
    Ask yourself why ?...

  • @MrScottie68
    @MrScottie68 Месяц назад +2

    The same thing happened in the USA with General Electric. Instead of retooling for newer LED technology, the iconic GE lighting plants were closed and now we rely on China for nearly all light bulbs . It’s an absolute disgrace.

  • @RODALCO2007
    @RODALCO2007 Месяц назад +2

    Mooie video, jammer dat de tijden zo veranderd zijn en de competitie van Azie en nieuwe led lamp technieken het allemaal heeft overgenomen. Ik kan me altijd herinneren de lamptestkamers kon je zien vanuit de trein in Eindhoven in the 1980-er jaren.

  • @RickdeGroot-g8p
    @RickdeGroot-g8p Месяц назад +3

    I’m gonna correct you, at 2:50 you say that Eindhoven is known as city of light, because of Philips. That’s incorrect.. We got that name from the massive factory’s who produced matches before Philips was here :) great video!

    • @ForgottenBuildings
      @ForgottenBuildings  Месяц назад +1

      Wasn't aware of that, thanks for the information!

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Месяц назад

      @@ForgottenBuildings Mennen & Keunen, klopt, de bomen daar. Philips heeft die naam gekaapt.
      True, Mennen & Keunen, the local woods, Philips captured that epic name

  • @0dbm
    @0dbm Месяц назад +1

    Make a Museum of it , I would pay for a tour
    Do you need a tour guide ?
    Lock it up to protect this historical building.
    Excellent video

    • @ForgottenBuildings
      @ForgottenBuildings  Месяц назад

      Great that you enjoyed the video and yeah would be nice if they'd convert it.

  • @andrewrees8749
    @andrewrees8749 Месяц назад +2

    Thorn had a lamp factory in Merthyr Tydfil s Wales, for 50yrs , I was an apprentice there in the 80,s it closed in92

  • @martinchabot_FR
    @martinchabot_FR Месяц назад +14

    There is a very good reason why the ovens are the latest to stay: they are full of abestos, you can even see it in the duct lining exposed.

    • @meosalami5180
      @meosalami5180 Месяц назад +4

      Nonsense. This is normal mineral wool. The furnace equipment in the video is already much too modern to still contain any asbestos. Trust me, I work in this business.

    • @HVinduction
      @HVinduction Месяц назад +1

      @@meosalami5180 Wrong, this is not mineral wool, I am a chemist. These ovens and even then the ducts en gaskets are from the 80's or before so they definitely contain asbestos, which is very dangerous because these woven fibres are in the open air and not embedded in cement. If you are a professional in that business you should know that you have to treat every suspicious material as asbestos, and especially non-embedded asbestos. Also there is a high possibility that this building contains spray asbestos on the roof, which is also for short term exposure mortally dangerous. Because of that and the risk of falling / collapsing of the building it is very dangerous to visit these large abandoned buildings.

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman Месяц назад

      Now is sold to Whirlpool.

  • @navajyotichetia8968
    @navajyotichetia8968 Месяц назад +2

    About 20 years ago I saw on a shop in a bazaar in India blue sleek printed boxes (like their lamps retail packages but much bigger boxes) PHILLIPS hurricane lanterns being sold- even the brand Phillips was printed sideways on the side of the box like other Phillips electrical retail products

  • @melchezi8818
    @melchezi8818 14 дней назад +1

    Phillips light bulbs were like the best quality.

  • @maus3454
    @maus3454 22 дня назад +1

    Bezoek aan EMGO in Balendijk-Lommel Belgie

  • @VarHar-x1k
    @VarHar-x1k 17 дней назад +1

    These days everything is (MADE IN CHINA) and they also make Halogen E26 and E27 lightbulbs now which was unavailable before.
    .

  • @robertodiazsanchez4177
    @robertodiazsanchez4177 Месяц назад +2

    I really like those old machines.

  • @Fred-jh5we
    @Fred-jh5we 11 дней назад +1

    Le remplacement délirant du filament par des leds sensées durer vitam eternam. Encore une idée lumineuse de l'UE. Combien en avez vous jeté en 10 ans ? surement autant que des ampoules à filament. Et combien avez-vous dépensé pour les leds ? Surement 2 à 4 fois le prix des lampes à filament.

  • @cengeb
    @cengeb 5 дней назад +1

    Still use the Low Pressure Sodium SOX outdoor lighting 18,35,55 W lamps around my house, some are made in Belgium, before it all move to U.K.

  • @sir_christmas_leopold_duckson
    @sir_christmas_leopold_duckson Месяц назад +1

    I used to swear by Philips up until around 2007 - 2008. I had a Philips 52" DLP TV go bad on me literally the day after the warranty expired and when I called customer service, they answered with "Hello?" I thought I had dialed the wrong number and when I asked, the woman was like, "Oh... Yes, this is Philips Customer Care..." Then she proceeded to tell me I was out of luck on the warranty and when I tried to get her to diagnose the flashing lights on the front of the TV, she didn't know what they meant. It ended up being the "light engine" which cost more to replace than the price of the TV. I ended up throwing it away. 1000 bucks right down the drain. Bought the cheapest Westinghouse 32" LCD TV from Best Buy as a temporary replacement till I could afford another big screen and I still use it as a computer monitor today.

    • @xcel5203
      @xcel5203 13 дней назад +1

      Interesting.

  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 Месяц назад +3

    There are still light bulbs to be made. Incandescent ones are still widely used in motor vehicles. The rest are going to LED which still requires assembly from the level of bare LEDs to finished products.
    There are also heat lamps.

    • @RandomerFellow
      @RandomerFellow Месяц назад +4

      And as oven lighting.

    • @PlanetIscandar
      @PlanetIscandar Месяц назад +2

      The bulbs that i can find now in Greece, are all Made in Bulgaria and they are very low quality. But still.. they are bulbs.

  • @johnburugu-kb7iq
    @johnburugu-kb7iq Месяц назад +2

    Some of the impossible to fail companies that eventually collapsed, are Phillips, sanyo ,Sony Panasonic grudig, jvc national radio, TV and battery company fokker aircraft daewoo car company

  • @liamrobertson7265
    @liamrobertson7265 Месяц назад +2

    they made the best grow lights full stop

  • @philippremysler7686
    @philippremysler7686 Месяц назад +7

    Ironically, LED light bulbs eventually evolved to the LED filament design which also uses glass bulbs. Those furnaces could have been used to make glass bulbs for LED filament bulbs.

    • @gerhardhager2376
      @gerhardhager2376 10 дней назад

      The decline of EMGO started, when Philips decided to buy Polamp (after the openeing of the iron curtain in 1990); a lot of the production of the incandescent lamps was then shifted from Weert (NL) to Poland; EMGO lost in these days one of their biggest customers, as Polamp had there one bulb production line. Another issue was of course the introduction of the energy saving lamps, which gained step ba step market share after the introdcution in the early 1970’s...

  • @Stefan_Van_pellicom
    @Stefan_Van_pellicom Месяц назад +2

    Geweldige bron van automatisatie-onderdelen voor de hobbyist!

  • @raphdroidt692
    @raphdroidt692 9 дней назад

    Jeetje wat een poductiekwaliteit van deze video's!

  • @radiokiller
    @radiokiller Месяц назад +3

    Tamási's plant in Hungary was taken over by Signify a long time ago.

  • @icis4
    @icis4 Месяц назад +1

    Philips used to be the second largest chip maker and now they only make toothbrushes and razors and sell the brand to other manufacturers, for example TVs are made by Funai. I was working for an Israeli company and Philips had to develop an MMIC chip for us. They took 10 million and did nothing. We developed it ourselves and manufacture it in Colorado.

  • @pauldarlington5589
    @pauldarlington5589 Месяц назад +2

    Walking through the ruins of a lost advanced civilisation.

  • @graemekeeley4497
    @graemekeeley4497 Месяц назад +1

    The first TV my Parents bought when TV was introduced to Australia was a Philips, 18" B&W screen enclosed in a polished wooden cabinet and we all rushed home from school to to catch Annette Funicello (Mickey Mouse Club), the ultimate Girl Next Door of my youth

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Месяц назад

      graemekeeley4497
      We kept the wooden models all, European models doing that before 1960 ish.
      Philips always did the best Cabinets, unable to find now. US kept selling that for ages, till the flat screen days...

  • @TradieTrev
    @TradieTrev Месяц назад

    That would of been a sick bit of kit to work on!

  • @TheHateSpeechChannel
    @TheHateSpeechChannel 6 дней назад

    I learned decades ago to AVOID anything with the Philips name. The quality just wasn't there, the items always broke or developed a fault waaaay before you would expect. Glad they are going down.

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 Месяц назад

    Very Interesting!

  • @RobertValinsky
    @RobertValinsky 21 день назад +1

    I worked for phillips medical systems in ct for 27 years then they closed the factory and moved out west to washington state. I don't think that their still in existence today.

  • @lespecsman
    @lespecsman Месяц назад +2

    I used to work for Philips Lightimg industries here in Melbourne during the the 70s
    back then it was a gloal company with many divisions manufacturing domestic and industrial products gradually declining with the advent of the rise of manufacturing in Asia

    • @bskull3232
      @bskull3232 Месяц назад +1

      Philips still manufactures lighting systems (not that the factories in the West, but still designed and sold by Philips), medical imaging stuff, but all the rest are not OG Philips anymore. It has licensed its brand to Chinese vendors to use, and only keeping medical and lighting industries since some 5 years ago.

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 Месяц назад +1

    I wonder, is there any buildings left of CRT TV Factories? I'd LOVE to see one of them documented in a video. Cheers

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Месяц назад

      Belgium, a lot is gone, yeah
      But the stories are all on RUclips ! locals working there, on Techmoan etc..

  • @m0kov
    @m0kov Месяц назад +4

    It won't be many years until you are exploring abandoned car factories

  • @MD-rd9fh
    @MD-rd9fh 12 дней назад +1

    LED lights killed the Radio Star!

  • @airspeedmph
    @airspeedmph Месяц назад +3

    Nice eerie soundtrack.

  • @MrCasio99
    @MrCasio99 26 дней назад +2

    Hi, I worked in the 80's by the Osram Factory and produce different kinds of lamp bulb for Osram, with Osram Stamp on it. In the production i have to change the Osram stamp to Phillips stamps, same production machine, only change the stamp. After in the German Stiftung Warentest news, get the win on Phillips Bulb, on the same Machine and win the contest. I have ask my supervisor, how that can be happened ?. He told me, its Politic.

  • @Skidawger100
    @Skidawger100 Месяц назад +2

    Same here in Winchester Ky. Sylvania.

    • @gernotskupin8472
      @gernotskupin8472 Месяц назад

      I was happy to work for Automotive Lighting in the Westinghouse/Philips factory in Richmond, Ky.

  • @Unknown_Ooh
    @Unknown_Ooh 28 дней назад +1

    Dang as an American I always thought Philips was an American brand 😂 great filmography and history of the companym!

  • @DanielGlover
    @DanielGlover Месяц назад

    Popped up on the home screen, Thought now where is this, If UK, might be tempted but Philips, proberly not. It was not. Across the sea.
    What a waste. 12 years empty. Like you say it will go for that new development. So much metalwork, things for scrap just sat there, Money. Maybe just not worth it until demolition, sort out materials for some cash. Still owned and managed.
    I like a look around while getting in out of sight dodgy explore like this.
    Then the people you could hear. Now that would put me off. I had that once in an old house on RUclips version 1. not kept the video on computer, lost that dodgy explore video file. Other explorers come into house after me as these could have been by you or as you thought, Naught lot stealing metal!. Very nice explore and video. 😃

  • @someguy9778
    @someguy9778 9 дней назад

    I loved philips products. I would always buy Philips if available. My TV was Philips for years, best quality at the time leading up to flat screens. Unfortunately, I had to go with cheaper when flat screens came out.

  • @RumpelFourSkin
    @RumpelFourSkin 14 дней назад +2

    LED killed the bulb

    • @gerhardhager2376
      @gerhardhager2376 10 дней назад

      …energy saving lamps killed the bulb first, then LED killed the energy saving lamp...

  • @gregorymalchuk272
    @gregorymalchuk272 Месяц назад +1

    Wasn't it just 16 years ago that Philips was making huge investments in fluorescent, CFL, and metal halide lamp plants in Poland, Hungary, and Mexico?

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb 20 дней назад

      Fluorescent lamps and CFL are basically banned complete in just a few more years, many states in the U.S. have started banning the new sale of them, HPS is a next lamp type to be gone, Philips stopped making LPS, years ago, I still use SOX LPS outside now about a dozen fixtures, glad I stocked up on spare lamps and sockets, and a few ballasts. 18, 35,55 watt light up everything in a nice monochromatic glow, no glare, like too much blue LED for roads

  • @309electronics5
    @309electronics5 Месяц назад +2

    En nu is Phillips een merk dat andere bedrijven gebruiken om (minder goede kwaliteit) producten te maken. Signify zit achter de lampen en een paar andere bedrijven gebruiken het om household appliances te maken

    • @aspensulphate
      @aspensulphate Месяц назад

      Yes. Companies will purchase the trademark of a once great, but now defunct company, in order to milk whatever brand recognition is left.

  • @picobyte
    @picobyte Месяц назад +3

    The old Stadskanaal site still has some of their old buildings.
    Not sure if this is true, some people told me they made cheap very good HeNe lasers here.

    • @wimheitinga728
      @wimheitinga728 Месяц назад +2

      I did vacationwork there some decades ago. On my moped from Veendam to Knoal and back at the end of the shift. The work was very boring but the pay was good.

    • @RichardHilverts
      @RichardHilverts Месяц назад

      Grotendeels geruimd en vervuilde grond gesaneerd!

  • @WXUZT
    @WXUZT Месяц назад

    Where did they obtain / make the filaments ? It's very difficult to make these.

  • @krystiantucker7702
    @krystiantucker7702 Месяц назад +1

    i worked for crompton lighting motors doncaster england for a bit manufacturing luminaires

  • @TheBigdog868
    @TheBigdog868 Месяц назад +15

    I still have a stash of incandescent bulbs. I know they're illegal, but i think they still make the best light. I hope I don't go to jail for stating this publicly.

    • @KarimY-119
      @KarimY-119 Месяц назад +2

      as long as you dont put them in your suitcase you are good.

    • @michagoebiewski1121
      @michagoebiewski1121 Месяц назад +13

      Illegal light bulbs... EU is a clown world

    • @kadzukilucifer5917
      @kadzukilucifer5917 Месяц назад +1

      Это неправда лампочки накаливания не запрещены просто теперь это обогреватель 😂

    • @dzonikg
      @dzonikg 19 дней назад

      Why is ilagal ,you have someone inspecting your house??I changed for LED 10 yeas ago but did not throw old ones.WHen some LED bulbs die i replaced them with old until i buy LEDs .BUt in basement and places i rarely go i still have old bulbs

  • @two_tier_gary_rumain
    @two_tier_gary_rumain Месяц назад +1

    Good riddance! I've learnt to really hate Philips products. With their inbuilt obsolescence, they are really annoying.
    The first Philips product I bought was a 34cm TV to use with my PC. Almost as soon as the warranty expired, the TV started to get problems. After getting it repaired for the 2nd time, I decided to chuck it out when it failed again. Replaced it with a Japanese monitor. Never had issues with it. Even lasted longer than my PC.
    The next Philips product to annoy me was the hair and beard trimmer I bought. I didn't really want it but it was on sale and the salesman was really pushing it (he must have got a good margin on it).
    Anyway, the little spring loaded clip on the back that held the mm depth gauge in place failed fairly on. Most annoying thing was that the springs fell down the sink's drain, which meant I couldn't use it properly. I still have it but I seldom use it now.
    Nowadays, I avoid anything made by Philips. It's just not worth it.

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb 20 дней назад

      My Philips 42" Ambilight flat screen went 17 years, still working when I decided to upgrade to a 77" OLED by LG...oh, Philips and LG had a company together called LG Philips Display, then Philips bailed on that, LG is the largest OLED screen maker now, another Philips started enterprise and they bailed. Once you go OLED, everything else sucks

    • @two_tier_gary_rumain
      @two_tier_gary_rumain 19 дней назад

      @@cengeb I agree. I have an older LG flat screen. Better than the others from that time.

  • @tempestfrost
    @tempestfrost 2 дня назад +1

    As a new subscriber I have to say that I'm shocked to see that over the 5 years you've been uploading you've never performed a proper audit of this channel. Your videos are wonderfully produced and edited and yet so many of them have such low view counts. Would you like to know why? It's the short run times; that's what's killing your views. Look, RUclips favors long form content. The longer the run time per video the more likely YT is to promote it. The short run times are also chasing viewers away. Urban Exploration videos need to have a run time of at least 20 min. Any shorter and viewers will simply pass on it believing the video to be too short to offer a comprehensive exploration of the site.
    So what you have here is a combination of RUclips not promoting your videos combined with viewers not willing to click on an exploration video they feel is too short to be any good. Both problems are being caused by the same thing: Run times that are just too short for this type of content. Just look at you resent video on Olivetti. Same format as all you other videos, edited in the same way and yet it has received almost 500,000 views. What's different? The run time! Right in the sweet spot of just over 20 minutes.
    If you commit yourselves to producing videos of 20 minutes or more from here on out I promise you will see many more videos getting the same high view counts that they all deserve. Best of luck ♥

  • @kenlowey1
    @kenlowey1 Месяц назад +1

    WELL, that's blown a fuse!!!

  • @alexandermathar7780
    @alexandermathar7780 11 дней назад +1

    Strange that they never ventured into synthesizers.

  • @lsmartino
    @lsmartino Месяц назад +11

    LED was what killed older lighting products manufacturers. It´s a pity, because today most LED manufacturers are no-name asian companies who don´t care about quality.

    • @grzegorzmontar8432
      @grzegorzmontar8432 Месяц назад +2

      Not LED technilogy, but UE directives which banned clasic bulbs !

    • @mudi2000a
      @mudi2000a Месяц назад +3

      I would have put in LED anyway, just look at the electricity bill.

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist Месяц назад

      @@grzegorzmontar8432 Actually caused by BETTER products that use far less energy, and cost less on people's electric bills- which people WANT.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Месяц назад

      lsmartino
      Philips HUE is the biggest i would say, why not outsource it, demand to make it better !

    • @PlanetIscandar
      @PlanetIscandar Месяц назад

      @@grzegorzmontar8432 Couldn't agree more.

  • @buxvan
    @buxvan Месяц назад +1

    Philips, "Simply years ahead "

  • @dicdicd1767
    @dicdicd1767 Месяц назад +1

    Philips was a major technology company nit only a light bulb manufacturer

  • @Embargoman
    @Embargoman Месяц назад

    Philips now makes personal care products, here in the USA their shavers are sold under the Norelco name.

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb 20 дней назад

      Norelco Philips shavers are made in Netherlands still on the upper end models, others are China, Sonicare toothbrushes, where made in U.S., now China china China

    • @cengeb
      @cengeb 20 дней назад

      They sold off their small appliances div to a Chinese holding company, no more Saeco, Jura coffee machines under Philips, my Saeco Xelsis is great..made in Italy 15 plus years old

  • @atomipi
    @atomipi Месяц назад +1

    sad, no tech person thought of videoing the machines running back in the day

  • @MVHens
    @MVHens Месяц назад +1

    Is the factory in Turnhout still operational?

    • @svenlabots1869
      @svenlabots1869 Месяц назад

      Hi there! No, also the Turnhout production plant is recently definitely closed and now used for offices and small firms. It used to be a real legendary factory with at it's peak offering jobs for more than 3000 people. A true mastodont...