The great thing about this car is 98 percent of dealers I’ve gotten ahold of are selling this car at MSRP with no accessories added to inflate the price. You can actually get these for 36 grand
@@sdlausen1 Majority of 2022s are listed for 31k+, look it up. MSRP back in 2022 was 33K. Doesn’t look like they are depreciating as hard as you thought lol
Eh, don’t dilute the other brands. We don’t know how the sauce is made at Hyundai. VW has held their prices as much as possible over the last 8 years, which is saying something considering inflation.
Quality is way above and beyond in Toyota and Honda at least, and that has a cost to produce. VW in the other hand is all about technology and unbeatable driving dynamics, plus tradition and design (yes, the looks matters). So, Hyundai knows it is the new kid on the block, it doesn’t have the looks, certainly not the quality of its competitors, let alone the tradition. The price is just right for what you get, IMHO!
21 track days, 6 of those being competition days and my Elantra N is still going strong. No issues with overheating on-track and it makes 350whp on a dynojet.
Still rocking my ‘22 EN. After 2 years and 30,000 miles, it still puts a smile on my face every single day. I’m mid-40s and refuse to spend $40k+ on a car - at some point I’m sure that’ll have to change - but if there’s a car like the Elantra N available to me, I’d buy it again.
You’ve probably heard this thousands of times from hundreds of subscribers at this point… but I have to say again, I am BLOWN AWAY by the level of production and quality that you guys put into your videos! I follow a lot of car channels, but you bring a completely different level of honesty, passion and art to these videos that few others can approach! Thank you Jack and Mark, looking forward to many more of your car reviews!
Some people just assume that Elantra N won't last long if it is driven hard just because it is a Hyundai. Don't underestimate who developed N cars. Albert Biermann and his N team overspec'ed N cars for the track use and extensively tested their cars. That is why you don't hear much about N cars failing in the track while other cars are known to have a number of issues such as engine oil overheating, manual transmission failure, diff overheating, etc.
I picked my '24 Elantra N in Intense Blue 10 days ago and I want to continue driving every day. It's everything I ever wanted in a car. I love this car so much. 36.6k new. Im convinced this is the only new car I will ever buy.
The Elantra N is the world's first mass-produced car to contain the drive shaft system used in the WRC. Of course, this is not a very advanced technology, but even BMW M and Mercedes AMG cannot use it because the production cost and unit cost are too high and the heat treatment, processing, and suspension assembly processes must all be changed to apply it to mass-produced cars. However, Hyundai applied this system even at the cost of giving up its own profits to improve the driving experience and reduce lap times. I thought Hyundai was a cheap car company that only pursued profits, but after seeing this, my impressions of Hyundai changed to a company of car enthusiasts who are crazy about the soul of motorsports. There is still a gap in technology, but their passion may make them more car enthusiasts than BMW M. I remember when Hyundai first entered the WRC. Almost every car fan in the world laughed at Hyundai. I also felt bad that a company like Hyundai dared to enter the WRC and thought that a company that made money by selling a lot of cheap cars would enter motorsports for marketing. But Hyundai won the WTCR over 20 times and won WRC twice in a row.
Well yea overseas, Hyundai is a serious motorsport contender. They host yearly fan events everywhere but North America. The fact that they made their N cars for "n"thusiasts says alot about their motto for, especially when they could just slap on a 40k msrp on this car like every other mfg.
I Dad and Track a 23 EN, and agree with the Nthusiasm for this car. I had a lot of brand prejudice against Hyundai and Kia, but once I saw what a weapon the EN is at autocross, and refusing to be extorted by Honda dealers, I bought one at MSRP with no add-ons. I am completely stoked on this car. Well done Hyundai
@@ghoulbuster1 I was a Toyota fan-boy until we got a Solara that drank more oil than a Subaru, but not enough to qualify for the recall. That experience really turned me off from the brand as a whole. I still have people that talk smack on Hyundai reliability - but 10yr 100k mile warranty will tell. I believe they've made serious effort to remodel their QAQC.
@@ghoulbuster1 yep. all of hyundai haters are japanese car fanboys. and all of them are literally braindead. korean electronic industry such as samsung lg sk already overtook japanese electrnoic industry decades ago. and now korean car industry is now overtaking japanese car industry same as them. these japanese car fanboys refusing the reality rn. its hiliarious af
As a Hyundai service adviser I have yet to see any Elantra N or Kona N reliability issues. These powertrains are still relatively new and not nearly as common, but you can take that for what its worth. I've seen practically new Santa Fe's and Tucson's requiring a new transmission or fuel injector (granted these instances are very rare). I generally think a lot of it has to do with how diligent the owners are with regular maintenance. N owners are almost diabolical about it while some (not all) of the regular bread and butter owners never check their oil and go 7-10K between oil changes (don't do that, especially with thin oil) and wonder why its consuming oil at 50 or 60K.
How about failed DCTs or over revving DCTs? Those are the 2 things I’ve seen around the web (not that you can trust the internet) but it still creates worry. Heck there’s a guy in the comments who said his DCT was replaced at 1600 kilos.
both Elantra N or Kona N recall on DCT and its catastrophic. 🤨🤨🤨 DCT recall for 2022 models. how do you not know this. this is what i am talking about Hyundai and KIA dealers. they dont know anything😛😛😛
I have a 22 Veloster N that I got about a year ago used. It's very similar to this but smaller and less practical. They discontinued that, which is a shame, but I'm really glad this car exists, along with their other N cars. Assuming the Veloster N doesn't really disappoint me with reliability as it ages, there's a very solid chance I will be going back to N for my next car. Whether it's the Elantra N or the Veloster N, the reviews are pretty consistent: it's a very competent performance buy, especially for the money, but most of all it's just FUN. Personally, I don't care a single bit if it's down seconds per lap vs a Civic Type R. If it's cheaper AND more fun to drive, that's what I'm getting every time.
I really appreciate how you guys take the price into consideration. For a lot of other channels they won't even mention it until the very end of their reviews when it's arguably the most important information.
In Europe we have the i30 N and it’s a phenomenal car. I think you’d love that car. Sad this is the last year of production here due to emissions regulations. Hyundai even organizes training for 2 days including food and stay for €550.
That's true. And the price is just right, even for the performance. A CTR is over 20k more here nowadays. Let's not talk about the Golf R with some options...
I love my 23’ Elantra N and you guys really helped convince me to get one, hopefully this video can do that for many other people so they can enjoy these cars too, they are fantastic cars, super fun to drive :)
Hyundai is doing a lot right. Between this and the Ioniq 5 N it seems like they genuinely want to make cars for enthusiasts and they want those enthusiasts to have real fun with their cars. Kudos, Hyundai and thank you, Mark and Jack, for yet another excellent review.
Your reviews and others led to me making a phone call, and a ‘25 cyber gray w/DCT is supposed to be delivered to my driveway tomorrow. It’ll be the first time I’ve ever seen one. Your reviews are awesome!!!
I bought a Kona N due to me being a sucker for hatchbacks and I have no regrets. Doesn’t handle as well as the EN due to physics, but man it feels 90% as good and it’s almost hilarious what it can do for being a “suv” lol.
It may not be the best looking in its class, but when your only 2nd to the all time class leader (Type R) in terms track performance and saved $10K in the process, what would you rather have? Imagine how many tanks of gas you could buy with that much cash, you could basically drive your N for free for the cost of an R and still keep up with it. 😂 lol. I’m already sold and have mine on order in Performance Blue, stay tuned.
I love my Elantra N so much only thing I look forward to getting behind the wheel. Retired so only drive for fun been all over the country. Have 63k miles on 22 plan put 100k by end 2025. I'm using it to explore our country one city at a time including best roads
So stoked to have one of these on the way, about another 4 months to wait. Manual too of course for the fun factor. Great review, has given me even more confidence in my decision.
@@marcjones744 Don't worry about him. He had a bad experience and now he's negatively commenting to as many people as he can out of spite, I imagine. @thomasengel1459, what happened to you exactly, my friend? I've tried finding a comment that explains why you're so dead-set on bringing down the Elantra N, but to no avail. Can you explain *exactly* why you're so mad at the company & this car? Why do you want everyone to avoid it? What happened?
I WANT a type R I WANT a Nissan z I WANT a gr Corolla but guess what. I'm not spending 50-60k on a car especially for what we are getting here. Oh BuT ItS a HyUnDaI, yeah and guess what that's the only manufacturer that actually wants to give us cool cars and not fleece us in the process, so there.
I sell both and honestly the Elantra N is a much nicer place to be in and more engaging car to drive. The interior of the GR Corolla still feels like a $24k Corolla for $45k and up
Have the 22 MT model and it’s been great. Just a fun car to drive and i’ve owned Hyundais for 25 plus yrs and never had an issue with it. States have even a longer warranty. It’s a big win for Hyundai and it’s time that their old reputation to change.
Picked up the 22 EN thanks to you guys, been an amazing AutoX and HPDE machine. Driven to and from the track 6+ hours after hooning it for two days straight and back multiple times. Not my daily but compliant enough and 30+ mpg on the highway
(Former) "Brundle Fly" 👀... I have to admit that was accurate. An "all-rounder" that doesn't have a hatchback. You can pick up passengers at the airport, then drive to the racetrack and give them a heart attack. It is my favorite non-hot hatch, and I was actually waiting for your down-to-earth review. Thank you!
I'm 2 years and 24K miles into my 2022 Elantra N DCT! It's NOT my daily, this is strictly a fun car driven in the Ohio valleys and on some autocross courses. I'm blown away by this car for the money it costs. With the included 3 years of complementary maintenance, the fact that I'm 24K miles in and haven't even paid for maintenance yet is wild to me. I abuse this car, I'd love to test the warranty process if it ever breaks. I hit rev limiter every time I drive it. This thing has been a tank so far! I do hate the "Octane Learning" process as you guys mentioned in the video. It's easily the worst thing about the car and perhaps the reason the laptime was 1 second slower than last time. With octane learning complete, using my Dragy GPS I'm seeing 0-60(1ft) of 4.54s on an otherwise stock car which is fairly insane.
@@thomasengel1459 I hope it does! It’s paid for and I have that warranty for a reason. I bought this car to abuse guilt free and if it never blows up I’ll be sad! So far it’s been rock solid. We will see!
Just took my EN and my group of chicago N car enthusiasts to the autobahn for track sprint. This thing just did amazingly. We love it and everyone there loved to see it including an ioniq 5N match a 911 time. Goin back june 9th for the south track
@@iZephiroth the 911 and I5N both did a 45 at the north track. The real shocker tho was a modified Volvo hybrid c30 doing 42 seconds just demolishing everyone 😭. The announcer said the times and was so confused a Volvo beat everything💀
I was there as well with my EN. I did 46.3 sec (not full lap of Autobahn north) with fairly big mistake on turn 4. great car. I guess I will see you in June. ;-)
btw, he was very fast but it wasn't Volvo. lol He is one of the fastest driver in Track Sprint for sure. ruclips.net/video/bDwReq0wZVE/видео.htmlsi=5ayRAh71vVcZebpu
Honestly I’m impressed that the changes in the facelift were enough to warrant getting its own video. I’ve had a ‘22 since Dec of ‘21, love it. Haven’t taken it to the track yet or done any modifications. These are absolutely amazing cars. Right now I’m actually looking into a GR86 or a BRZ because I really want a RWD sports car, but I’m torn because of how awesome the N is.
I am absolutely in love with my 22' N. I'm at about 45k miles so far. I haven't tracked it because I need it as a daily. I swapped the summer tires for some Conti all-seasons which did change the handling a bit, but still very good. Otherwise, I've left it stock and reliable. I love the Jekyl and Hyde personality of this car. Loud and racy then economy car all at the press of a button. Avg MPG is about 28-29 with a few high tanks at 32-34 MPG. Great car, nothing else like it right now.
I LOVE these sporty sedans, I was loyal to VW and had a few Jetta GLIs but they are so far behind in power, technology and interior that I am no longer loyal to the GLI. I never thought of buying a Hyunday but this Elantra N checks all the boxes (except the sunroof, only Canada get it I think, which sounds very VW to me) for the perfect blend of fun and daily, it just cannot be beat. The GLI is $34-$35k and I would rather have this for the same price over the VW, any day of the week. A used 2022 GLI is in the high 20s, a used 2022 Elantra N is holding 30s. And then there is that longer warranty, the end. :)
Bought a 23 EN in February. This channel among many others(Topher etc) helped me make my decision. You literally can't go wrong with this car it is an absolute blast to drive AND you can take it to Costco and have plenty of room for groceries.
One of the best bang for your buck cars, one of the best do-it-all affordable performance cars. It's insane how capable and competent this car is. I love mine, and would encourage anyone who's shopping those cars that Mark and Jack mentioned to try this out. You won't regret it. And you'll be happier with the extra bucks in your pocket. Even if I sell this car down the road, I will buy another one again. That's how good it is. One of those "more than the sum of its parts" cars
@@lifesAtrip513 So what? Do you prefer to pay a hefty extra charge plus dealer markups just for the brand name? If it's a decent and reliable car I don't care for the name.
For the record, my Veloster N was the first iteration of this in North America. I still love my VN 6MT. The car has been completely flawless in the four years I have owned her. The P Zeros don't last very long... :)
We’ve got an Elantra N stick shift that’s sub 2 at Buttonwillow and sub 1:30 at Willow Springs (big Willow, not streets) putting it as the fastest fwd street class car there ever.
At. COTA, we were only 6 seconds slower than TCR cars and that was with a very mild tune and all of the best time attack sessions black flagged. The post race data showed we were only 3 seconds off from the TCR cars. And we have stock aero
This car is the perfect amount of "responsible" daily driver and absolute blast on back roads. People think this is just for people that can't afford the Type R's, GR Corolla's, or Golf's, but after test driving a bunch of different things the extra money you spend on those models just aren't worth it unless you really care about the badge. I think these things will be future collector cars after some heavy depreciation just for how fun and ridiculous they are.
@@jesusofbacon that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever read 🤣 no I’m not in college, I’m a line tech at a Hyundai dealer, I’m soooo sorry I work for everything I have
Fun fact this car is the exact same color as the Hyundai megaplant in Ulsan. They took the same paint they painted the factory exterior with and hit the cars with it too.
Just wrecked my 2023 hyundai Elantra hybrid, and picked up an old prius to get by, but I really miss the Elantra. This looks almost the same except obviously a much more fun driving experience. Interior looks similar, infotainment, exterior. Once I have the money saved up I'm probably going to get one of these.
Awesome car, so glad it exists at this price point (Veloster N PP owner). I know I would only have to look at the styling before I got in to drive it, but COME ON!
I’ve got the little bro i20N and it’s great. Takes 4 adults and you can beat on it and it’s already got all the features. And 5 years warranty inc non competitive track days! At least in the UK
After owning close to 30 cars i can say that my 22 EN is by far top three. Love the fact that you dont need a lot of track prep to take it out and enjoy it.
@@thomasengel1459 no need lol got other cars in the garage that I could use while is warranty. 150k mile warranty bumper to bumper…. So far multiple track days a year and 0 issues.
@CaptainFordo21 Eh, my main vehicle has had a manual transmission since I was 16 years old, but I owned a DCT VW R32 for a while and I loved that transmission. It’s a different kind of fun.
@CaptainFordo21 I'd rather drive a 10 speed truck for work, then drive my DCT on my own time :3 But CDL classes did make me consider trading for the manual
I have my Kona N and I love it so far. Yes it’s loud and “uncomfortable” but realistically it’s not that bad and there is something special about having a fun car to daily and carry your body around in.
Traded in my 2017 FK8 with full HKS bolt-on and HKS power editor, whiteline springs + some Mugen parts, Invidia exhaust and Enkei wheels for the 24 EN (DCT) in performance blue. EN is more fun and better for daily driving. FL5 is very clean too, but it sounds like a vacuum cleaner with the stock exhaust and is too expensive for what it is.
@@thomasengel1459 honda isnt even a hyundai's competitor anymore. hyundai is currently worlds 2nd largest automaker in the world. pls update your brain
Just bought a 24 DCT. Had some very high HP cars, and this car is quick. DCT shifts as good as the DCT in my C8. My BRZ TS was just too sluggish. Love the N so far. Best bang for the buck.
It’s so hard to acquire this car right now but I’ve waited a long time for this facelift and I’m on the waitlist for a Performance blue! Amazing review guys!!!!!
I'm sure it's fun but my 22 wrx only has $15k left before it's paid off. It's been reliable and fun. I love dropping the clutch off the line into a corner. I've had the fast bikes r6/r1 and 4x4 trucks Yada Yada. But what's cool to me now is AWD
For the 2023 Elantra you guys recommended the 8 speed dual clutch over the manual. Would you still recommend the 8 speed dual clutch over the manual for the 2024?
I didn’t like the exterior of 2023 model, but I still vote for it with my wallet. When a manufacturer built a car that has track-ready level cooling, fairly reliable compared to opponents, great warranty promises even when you go track it, and a reasonable price, it’s hard to say no. Every purchase decision we make it’s our chance to vote for the future car industry. We need the era of affordable and fun cars back, and that’s why I bought this car. I remember when Mark said the best way to kill off sports cars and affordable performance cars to keep talking about it and not buying them. We already lose a lot of option of fun, affordable, manual cars that smile on our face on street and track, so let’s not make a worse. Stop paying markups, and tell the industry what we need.
I do like the improved front end. Im personally not a huge fan of that particular blue shade so id pick a different color. Its pretty appealing as a package. This will be on my list now.
Whats still amazing to me is that no matter how much Jack and Mark love this car, the haters will still say something stupid to go against getting one. It's childish and at some point haters need to give this car the respect it deserves.
@Symphoniics $5k mark up is guaranteed so least $50k and honda financing rates are double. So payments almost double is it double the car? What most people that haven't shopped these cars don't understand
@@erniejoel1234 What's interesting to me, is that the stock 0-60 and 1/4 mile times of the type R and GRC are slower than a stock Elantra N. The Elantra N makes less power, it's a bit inexcusable for the cars costing $10k more to be slower in a strait line. The cornering potential of all these cars comes down to tires more than anything else.
Hyundai is absolutely killing it with the performance, value, and driver focused aspect of the N cars. The only thing they could improve on is hiring some better car designers
The new facelift is awesome no doubt. I love my 23, I don't care much about depreciation. I'll drive her till she grows old and tired. The Elantra N is a fun car. Sure it's a hyundai, but it's one hell of a hyundai 👍
Great video as always, and I hope your assistant brings it to autocross. I still love my Elantra N after 30k miles and plan on driving it into the ground.
Honestly, for me, it wouldn’t matter. If I can get one I’m keeping it forever unless someone totals it. I haven’t felt this excited about a car since I bought my Fiesta ST in 2016 and I still have it. Best car I very had probably until the EN. Mainly buying it because the DCT. Want an automatic for my wife. It’ll also be more practical once we need to put a car seat in it and my 13 y/o daughter who’s almost 6 feet tall. I’ll still keep the FiST since it’s paid off 😎
@georgevigil7001 I traded to an EN from a full bolt on FIST. Be aware, the EN is two car sizes bigger. It's a chonky lady. Still miss the FIST, but EN had so much more refinement in every category
@@AnonAnon-qi4ts congrats on the car bro! Yeah I went and saw one in person and it’s like two FiST’s in length. Haha But we need that extra legroom in the back seat for my daughter and a car seat. I’m also looking forward to being able to set the dampers on comfort since my coils aren’t very comfortable on bad roads.
My new 2024 Sedan N (as it’s named in Australia) was delivered to me mid February. It’s currently at the dealership having the DCT replaced under warranty. The car had only 1600kms on it when the hydraulic valve body accumulator in the DCT failed and pushed hydraulic fluid out of the housing early this month. It’s a shame. I’m looking forward to getting it back in a few days. Apart from that it’s a brilliant car. Hopefully nothing else serious fails.
Hopefully they get it sorted out. I got a minor transmission leak at 60k (kilometre) in my 6MT EN and now rocking a new transmission. I think my seals couldn't handle Canadian extremes. Took delivery in middle of winter and drove it extensively through the worst storms (everyone got stuck), but lucky me, tow truck stopped to pull out my Elantra N (must have been racing blue that got his attention) and quickly went home afterwards cause it was insane even for toe truck.
Trouble is personally I really like analog RWD! I chose an FA24 BRZ and fitted a HARROP supercharger. 300 rwhp certainly winds the superlative platform up to a fun factor of 11. Makes for one very special yet still affordable car :)
under 40k all good and well, but I heard on RUclips Hyundai 4-cylinder engines aren't reliable. Any thoughts on that? 'Cause if that's the case, I'd rather pay more and get a reliable thing.
The N car engines are vastly different than other, especially older 4 cyl engines from Hyundai. These have been proven to be largely reliable. Either way, 10 year / 100k warranty on the engine and components.
Check Veloster N reviews. That car is old now and the engines are nearly identical save the bigger turbo. Compared to a K20 which are known to burn a little oil and get a 2nd gear crunchy syncro since they came out nearly 25 years ago. Legacy problems Honda never fixed. The Hyundai is solid and they have a pretty sturdy 6 speed in-house manual that doesnt have shit syncros.
Great review, thanks! Any chance you are going to review the Ioniq 5N anytime soon? I am considering buying one but I really want to hear your take on it first as it's a lot of money! 🙂
Test drove a '23 Elantra N before buying my '24 Civic Si. Still don't regret my choice. Drove my 20 year old Civic EX over 240K miles and it was still running fine when I traded it in - would I be able to do the same in a Hyundai?
"...would I be able to do the same in a Hyundai?" I'm just guessing here, but probably. Hyundai deserves to be released from it's twenty year old reputations as a cheap and crappy brand. They're still cheap, but they've largely grown out of the crappiness. I'm not saying they're AS good as a Honda or Toyota, but they're a LOT closer than they're old reputation would suggest. Plus, they give it a friggin ten year warranty. Who else does that? Heck, my 2013 Ford truck has 275,000-miles on it now. I've had to replace a leaky radiator recently, but still have never had any engine or transmission issue at all, except for the regular required maintenance stuff. Not a single one. It's a FORD for crying out loud. Even the crappy stuff built today is better than stuff was twenty or thirty years ago, just based on improved metallurgy, tighter manufacturing tolerances, and other advances of that nature.
owns mine EN for a little over a year now, like all fun cars, you get used to it and get bored, but the difference between this vs any sports car is I still daily it to the grocery stores, and whenever I feel like it I still can slam it into a corner harder than my brz, and make exhaust crack those noises, I don't see me selling it until my 10 year 100,000 miles warranty due
@@BitcoinTo150KThat’s cheap l lol here in Canada these cars MSRP for 52 grand and dealers are asking 75,000 grand. Same with the Si 35,900 but dealers are asking 43,000. Honda dealers here are gansters plain and simple.
@@BitcoinTo150K MSRP is out there, but obviously going to depend where you live. def seen MSRP in Ohio. not really in MI where i'm at. but i already have an fk8 and i didn't have to overpay for it.
@@porfiriato84Yep, exactly lol. The only places I see people prefer the older design are EN Facebook groups and the EN subreddit. Everywhere else online and irl, people prefer the face lift
If you can find a larger, high volume dealer in a metro area they definitely get way more allocations. If you're willing to travel a bit you can find one. It's frustrating dealing with the guys who aren't used to selling enthusiast cars and treat the N products like they're some kind of low production exotics but there are dealers out there who move a lot of these.
To see the turn around that Hyundai has had, from its dealer interactions to their value quality, its nice to see you recognize when a brand makes changes. They've came a long way in the last 5 years and it shows through your videos.
Jack thought if he showed off his biceps enough I wouldn’t notice he spilled coffee on his shirt in the shop. But I did.
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I thought he was getting so excited about this car that he shot himself in the chest.
Well it worked for me.
Mechanical extravaganza? All I see is a brachial extravaganza.
What's this video about again?
Dude is flexing hard
Savage
The great thing about this car is 98 percent of dealers I’ve gotten ahold of are selling this car at MSRP with no accessories added to inflate the price. You can actually get these for 36 grand
Yup the demand is pretty low and you can actually negotiate below MSRP. But they also depreciate like a beanie baby at a Will Smith meet-and-greet.
@@TheBreakfastLover they won’t hold value as good as a type R but 2-3 year old Ns are up at dealers still for 29-33 grand
You're not considering how hard these depreciate. The CTR and GT Corolla don't.
I couldn’t get one in 2022 for MSRP so ordered my DCT N for $33,500 after the finance rebate.
@@sdlausen1 Majority of 2022s are listed for 31k+, look it up. MSRP back in 2022 was 33K. Doesn’t look like they are depreciating as hard as you thought lol
Mark nailed it. If Hyundai can build this car for this price, the Honda’s, Toyotas and VWs of the world should be able to.
Well in the case of Honda and the Type R, it’s mainly the name you’re paying more for.
Eh, don’t dilute the other brands. We don’t know how the sauce is made at Hyundai. VW has held their prices as much as possible over the last 8 years, which is saying something considering inflation.
@@DS-nw4eqthey were caught in a huge scandal. People stopped taking the brand as serious after. It doesn’t really matter as they own Audi, Porsche etc
But at least cars from those 3 brands listed will last more than 30k miles.
Quality is way above and beyond in Toyota and Honda at least, and that has a cost to produce. VW in the other hand is all about technology and unbeatable driving dynamics, plus tradition and design (yes, the looks matters). So, Hyundai knows it is the new kid on the block, it doesn’t have the looks, certainly not the quality of its competitors, let alone the tradition. The price is just right for what you get, IMHO!
21 track days, 6 of those being competition days and my Elantra N is still going strong. No issues with overheating on-track and it makes 350whp on a dynojet.
absolute ripper
Big ripper!
I'd pick a Type R....currently own 2023 RS3
@@fzr1000981 It's like 10-15K more, but yeah definitely a solid option.
@@williamrori1274 how is the manual trans? Heard the Type R is above average
Still rocking my ‘22 EN. After 2 years and 30,000 miles, it still puts a smile on my face every single day. I’m mid-40s and refuse to spend $40k+ on a car - at some point I’m sure that’ll have to change - but if there’s a car like the Elantra N available to me, I’d buy it again.
60,000KM on my 2023 EN and still going strong.
Great car! I'll buy yours for 15 grand now. 🤣🤣
Just curious - what are insurance rates like for this car?
@@TML34 not for sale. I definitely didn’t buy it for resale value. I buy cars to keep, not switch out every year.
@@bryanbuoni8111 it depends on so many factors, it’s impossible to say what yours would be.
You’ve probably heard this thousands of times from hundreds of subscribers at this point… but I have to say again, I am BLOWN AWAY by the level of production and quality that you guys put into your videos! I follow a lot of car channels, but you bring a completely different level of honesty, passion and art to these videos that few others can approach!
Thank you Jack and Mark, looking forward to many more of your car reviews!
Elantra can only BLOW head gasket.
@@newchannel1220I heard you were phenomenal blowing guys in the locker room. Do you swallow? 😂
Some people just assume that Elantra N won't last long if it is driven hard just because it is a Hyundai. Don't underestimate who developed N cars. Albert Biermann and his N team overspec'ed N cars for the track use and extensively tested their cars. That is why you don't hear much about N cars failing in the track while other cars are known to have a number of issues such as engine oil overheating, manual transmission failure, diff overheating, etc.
I picked my '24 Elantra N in Intense Blue 10 days ago and I want to continue driving every day. It's everything I ever wanted in a car. I love this car so much. 36.6k new. Im convinced this is the only new car I will ever buy.
Manual or auto?
Hyungay🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Friend has a 2019 Hyundai Sonata that caught on fire while her mechanic was driving it after a maintenance schedule.
Lets see how that car does in 10 years. If it's still even driveable
@@chigasaki06 Auto, I love putting it in slap shift and using the paddles on backroads, makes it so fun!
The Elantra N is the world's first mass-produced car to contain the drive shaft system used in the WRC. Of course, this is not a very advanced technology, but even BMW M and Mercedes AMG cannot use it because the production cost and unit cost are too high and the heat treatment, processing, and suspension assembly processes must all be changed to apply it to mass-produced cars.
However, Hyundai applied this system even at the cost of giving up its own profits to improve the driving experience and reduce lap times. I thought Hyundai was a cheap car company that only pursued profits, but after seeing this, my impressions of Hyundai changed to a company of car enthusiasts who are crazy about the soul of motorsports. There is still a gap in technology, but their passion may make them more car enthusiasts than BMW M.
I remember when Hyundai first entered the WRC. Almost every car fan in the world laughed at Hyundai. I also felt bad that a company like Hyundai dared to enter the WRC and thought that a company that made money by selling a lot of cheap cars would enter motorsports for marketing. But Hyundai won the WTCR over 20 times and won WRC twice in a row.
@@thomasengel1459yep scatpacks laugh until you dust em
@@thomasengel1459 probably, mostly Honda Owners. VeEE-TecCCC- Be Quit clowns 🤡
Well yea overseas, Hyundai is a serious motorsport contender. They host yearly fan events everywhere but North America. The fact that they made their N cars for "n"thusiasts says alot about their motto for, especially when they could just slap on a 40k msrp on this car like every other mfg.
What drive shaft? It's FWD
@@thomasengel1459 Only people who don't know anything about cars.
I Dad and Track a 23 EN, and agree with the Nthusiasm for this car. I had a lot of brand prejudice against Hyundai and Kia, but once I saw what a weapon the EN is at autocross, and refusing to be extorted by Honda dealers, I bought one at MSRP with no add-ons. I am completely stoked on this car. Well done Hyundai
They earned that negative image, but man they've come a long way!
Hyundai and kia gets a bad reply from Japan fanboys that hate when a car that isn't a Toyota does better.
@@ghoulbuster1 I was a Toyota fan-boy until we got a Solara that drank more oil than a Subaru, but not enough to qualify for the recall. That experience really turned me off from the brand as a whole.
I still have people that talk smack on Hyundai reliability - but 10yr 100k mile warranty will tell. I believe they've made serious effort to remodel their QAQC.
@@thomasengel1459 100k/10yr warranty. As long as it's not 104k
@@ghoulbuster1 yep. all of hyundai haters are japanese car fanboys. and all of them are literally braindead. korean electronic industry such as samsung lg sk already overtook japanese electrnoic industry decades ago. and now korean car industry is now overtaking japanese car industry same as them. these japanese car fanboys refusing the reality rn. its hiliarious af
Watching this as it drops instead of going to sleep. Worth it every time
Is it
Glad I’m temporarily 9 time zones ahead of my usual central time.
Watching it in Poland, best auto channel 😊
Im waiting for Topher to make a video on this car
true hyundai owners never sleep though, repair bills keep them up stressed.
As a Hyundai service adviser I have yet to see any Elantra N or Kona N reliability issues. These powertrains are still relatively new and not nearly as common, but you can take that for what its worth. I've seen practically new Santa Fe's and Tucson's requiring a new transmission or fuel injector (granted these instances are very rare). I generally think a lot of it has to do with how diligent the owners are with regular maintenance. N owners are almost diabolical about it while some (not all) of the regular bread and butter owners never check their oil and go 7-10K between oil changes (don't do that, especially with thin oil) and wonder why its consuming oil at 50 or 60K.
How about failed DCTs or over revving DCTs? Those are the 2 things I’ve seen around the web (not that you can trust the internet) but it still creates worry. Heck there’s a guy in the comments who said his DCT was replaced at 1600 kilos.
I was so curious about reliability, time will tell but it sounds promising. Hyundai is on the come up for sure
both Elantra N or Kona N recall on DCT and its catastrophic. 🤨🤨🤨
DCT recall for 2022 models.
how do you not know this. this is what i am talking about Hyundai and KIA dealers. they dont know anything😛😛😛
@@kuyre2239what kind of person that actually gives a shit about driving buys the DCT?
DCt issues happened on many owners, even on one of my friend, manual is fine. you must be new to hyundai service advisor.
I have a 22 Veloster N that I got about a year ago used. It's very similar to this but smaller and less practical. They discontinued that, which is a shame, but I'm really glad this car exists, along with their other N cars. Assuming the Veloster N doesn't really disappoint me with reliability as it ages, there's a very solid chance I will be going back to N for my next car. Whether it's the Elantra N or the Veloster N, the reviews are pretty consistent: it's a very competent performance buy, especially for the money, but most of all it's just FUN. Personally, I don't care a single bit if it's down seconds per lap vs a Civic Type R. If it's cheaper AND more fun to drive, that's what I'm getting every time.
If you buy a Type R, you'll have to spend over $10,000 for a difference of 0.1 seconds.
It's a meaningless fight...
I really appreciate how you guys take the price into consideration. For a lot of other channels they won't even mention it until the very end of their reviews when it's arguably the most important information.
Good comment. People be like "Well this Honda civic doesn't have the handling of a RS3"
In Europe we have the i30 N and it’s a phenomenal car. I think you’d love that car. Sad this is the last year of production here due to emissions regulations. Hyundai even organizes training for 2 days including food and stay for €550.
That's true. And the price is just right, even for the performance. A CTR is over 20k more here nowadays. Let's not talk about the Golf R with some options...
Yes, I love the hatch version of this over here in Germany. Wish it was available in US spec, but us Amis apparently sneer at hot hatches these days…
Europe ruining everything with stupid laws once again.
Here in Australia we are getting the 2024 face-lift I30 N Hatchback.
Ford used to do that in America for their ST cars.
I love my 23’ Elantra N and you guys really helped convince me to get one, hopefully this video can do that for many other people so they can enjoy these cars too, they are fantastic cars, super fun to drive :)
I also purchased a 2023 thanks to these guys and... every other youtube car channel. I absolutely love driving it.
I bought my Veloster N because of their review also lol
Bought my 23 because of their review of it last year. Absolutely no regrets one of the best cars I have owned.
It’s in my top 2 for next car to buy 🤙 either this or a mk8 GTi. If I can get a solid price on this car I’m getting it.
@@thomasengel1459 no, you haven’t.
Hyundai is doing a lot right. Between this and the Ioniq 5 N it seems like they genuinely want to make cars for enthusiasts and they want those enthusiasts to have real fun with their cars. Kudos, Hyundai and thank you, Mark and Jack, for yet another excellent review.
Your reviews and others led to me making a phone call, and a ‘25 cyber gray w/DCT is supposed to be delivered to my driveway tomorrow.
It’ll be the first time I’ve ever seen one.
Your reviews are awesome!!!
I bought a Kona N due to me being a sucker for hatchbacks and I have no regrets. Doesn’t handle as well as the EN due to physics, but man it feels 90% as good and it’s almost hilarious what it can do for being a “suv” lol.
Thank you for reviewing the 2024 model, it is the first model year we are getting of the Elantra N where I'm at.
Where are you?
It may not be the best looking in its class, but when your only 2nd to the all time class leader (Type R) in terms track performance and saved $10K in the process, what would you rather have? Imagine how many tanks of gas you could buy with that much cash, you could basically drive your N for free for the cost of an R and still keep up with it. 😂 lol. I’m already sold and have mine on order in Performance Blue, stay tuned.
I love my Elantra N so much only thing I look forward to getting behind the wheel. Retired so only drive for fun been all over the country. Have 63k miles on 22 plan put 100k by end 2025. I'm using it to explore our country one city at a time including best roads
You're a legend Mike.
There are some good mountain roads in the South.
Google for driving enthusiast roads on your journey.
My ideal retirement plan right here 👌
You are living the dream
Happy Retirement!!!! You are doing right in my opinion!
So stoked to have one of these on the way, about another 4 months to wait. Manual too of course for the fun factor. Great review, has given me even more confidence in my decision.
Dont rub it in lol... Congrats
@@thomasengel1459 what makes u say that?
@@marcjones744 Don't worry about him. He had a bad experience and now he's negatively commenting to as many people as he can out of spite, I imagine. @thomasengel1459, what happened to you exactly, my friend? I've tried finding a comment that explains why you're so dead-set on bringing down the Elantra N, but to no avail.
Can you explain *exactly* why you're so mad at the company & this car? Why do you want everyone to avoid it? What happened?
@@ollyvoxx 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@thomasengel1459here we go again 😂😂😂
Just bought a 2025 DCT in white because of your recommendation. What a blast to drive..
I WANT a type R I WANT a Nissan z I WANT a gr Corolla but guess what. I'm not spending 50-60k on a car especially for what we are getting here. Oh BuT ItS a HyUnDaI, yeah and guess what that's the only manufacturer that actually wants to give us cool cars and not fleece us in the process, so there.
Yeah, ok. But take your meds first. 😆
I sell both and honestly the Elantra N is a much nicer place to be in and more engaging car to drive. The interior of the GR Corolla still feels like a $24k Corolla for $45k and up
Then do it. If you want to cheap out and buy from a manufacturer who doesn't honor their warranty, it's on you.
Hyundai is cheap for a reason.
@@joshgts9675 ive got an i20N and a couple things have failed and its been a warranty job every time no questions asked. $38k car
@@joshgts9675Aw butt hurt Honda fan girl. 😂
Proud to be an EN owner, primarily due to your guy's initial video. 33k with 6k miles, dont think this can be beat.
Have the 22 MT model and it’s been great.
Just a fun car to drive and i’ve owned Hyundais for 25 plus yrs and never had an issue with it. States have even a longer warranty.
It’s a big win for Hyundai and it’s time that their old reputation to change.
Picked up the 22 EN thanks to you guys, been an amazing AutoX and HPDE machine. Driven to and from the track 6+ hours after hooning it for two days straight and back multiple times. Not my daily but compliant enough and 30+ mpg on the highway
(Former) "Brundle Fly" 👀... I have to admit that was accurate. An "all-rounder" that doesn't have a hatchback.
You can pick up passengers at the airport, then drive to the racetrack and give them a heart attack. It is my favorite non-hot hatch, and I was actually waiting for your down-to-earth review.
Thank you!
I'm 2 years and 24K miles into my 2022 Elantra N DCT! It's NOT my daily, this is strictly a fun car driven in the Ohio valleys and on some autocross courses.
I'm blown away by this car for the money it costs. With the included 3 years of complementary maintenance, the fact that I'm 24K miles in and haven't even paid for maintenance yet is wild to me.
I abuse this car, I'd love to test the warranty process if it ever breaks. I hit rev limiter every time I drive it. This thing has been a tank so far!
I do hate the "Octane Learning" process as you guys mentioned in the video. It's easily the worst thing about the car and perhaps the reason the laptime was 1 second slower than last time. With octane learning complete, using my Dragy GPS I'm seeing 0-60(1ft) of 4.54s on an otherwise stock car which is fairly insane.
@@thomasengel1459 I hope it does! It’s paid for and I have that warranty for a reason. I bought this car to abuse guilt free and if it never blows up I’ll be sad! So far it’s been rock solid. We will see!
@@thomasengel1459what a trollboy 😅
@@thomasengel1459 Your mouth is even worse...
@@thomasengel1459depressing troll
Just took my EN and my group of chicago N car enthusiasts to the autobahn for track sprint. This thing just did amazingly. We love it and everyone there loved to see it including an ioniq 5N match a 911 time. Goin back june 9th for the south track
The fact that it matched a 911 is absolutely insane. Lol.
@@iZephiroth the 911 and I5N both did a 45 at the north track. The real shocker tho was a modified Volvo hybrid c30 doing 42 seconds just demolishing everyone 😭. The announcer said the times and was so confused a Volvo beat everything💀
I was there as well with my EN.
I did 46.3 sec (not full lap of Autobahn north) with fairly big mistake on turn 4.
great car.
I guess I will see you in June. ;-)
btw, he was very fast but it wasn't Volvo. lol
He is one of the fastest driver in Track Sprint for sure.
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@@iZephiroth5N driver was still learning the car.
5N was very impressive.
Had a genesis coupe with a 3.8.
Got it used for cheap, and it was a weapon and never had any problems so i think this modern car could be super good.
I have an FL5 but I have to give Hyundai respect for making a competitive product even if I don't like the looks of it.
Fk8
Once my lease runs out in a few years and these things are still holding up well, I just might grab one. Hyundai is definitely onto something.
Honestly I’m impressed that the changes in the facelift were enough to warrant getting its own video. I’ve had a ‘22 since Dec of ‘21, love it. Haven’t taken it to the track yet or done any modifications. These are absolutely amazing cars. Right now I’m actually looking into a GR86 or a BRZ because I really want a RWD sports car, but I’m torn because of how awesome the N is.
Depends what you want to do. Laptimes the elantra will put numbers down. If you want to slide it i say gr86/brz is the way to go.
I am absolutely in love with my 22' N. I'm at about 45k miles so far. I haven't tracked it because I need it as a daily. I swapped the summer tires for some Conti all-seasons which did change the handling a bit, but still very good. Otherwise, I've left it stock and reliable. I love the Jekyl and Hyde personality of this car. Loud and racy then economy car all at the press of a button. Avg MPG is about 28-29 with a few high tanks at 32-34 MPG. Great car, nothing else like it right now.
I got a i20 N cuz these aren't offered where I live. it's honestly mindblowing how fun and connected the driving feels.
I wish the I20N was sold in the US!
SG videos are the only YT videos I actually watch in full screen. Beautiful cinematography and shot composition 👌
I LOVE these sporty sedans, I was loyal to VW and had a few Jetta GLIs but they are so far behind in power, technology and interior that I am no longer loyal to the GLI. I never thought of buying a Hyunday but this Elantra N checks all the boxes (except the sunroof, only Canada get it I think, which sounds very VW to me) for the perfect blend of fun and daily, it just cannot be beat. The GLI is $34-$35k and I would rather have this for the same price over the VW, any day of the week. A used 2022 GLI is in the high 20s, a used 2022 Elantra N is holding 30s. And then there is that longer warranty, the end. :)
Humankind needs the great semi-turnaround. Cars like this gotta have a big comeback.
Bought a 23 EN in February. This channel among many others(Topher etc) helped me make my decision. You literally can't go wrong with this car it is an absolute blast to drive AND you can take it to Costco and have plenty of room for groceries.
One of the best bang for your buck cars, one of the best do-it-all affordable performance cars. It's insane how capable and competent this car is. I love mine, and would encourage anyone who's shopping those cars that Mark and Jack mentioned to try this out. You won't regret it. And you'll be happier with the extra bucks in your pocket. Even if I sell this car down the road, I will buy another one again. That's how good it is. One of those "more than the sum of its parts" cars
They look so good in the new red color, seriously thinking of getting one.
That red color is OP - I wish they offered that before the facelift.
Hyundai is still a Hyundai
@@lifesAtrip513 So what? Do you prefer to pay a hefty extra charge plus dealer markups just for the brand name? If it's a decent and reliable car I don't care for the name.
@@Fastvoice the sad thing is you'll have people say yes to this question lol
@@lifesAtrip513ah yes Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen and SUBARU are such premium names.
For the record, my Veloster N was the first iteration of this in North America. I still love my VN 6MT. The car has been completely flawless in the four years I have owned her. The P Zeros don't last very long... :)
We’ve got an Elantra N stick shift that’s sub 2 at Buttonwillow and sub 1:30 at Willow Springs (big Willow, not streets) putting it as the fastest fwd street class car there ever.
I presume it's modified?
@@MeltingRubberZ28yes. But Buttonwillow was with a piggy back and not an ecu tune. It’s progressed since then. 😂
At. COTA, we were only 6 seconds slower than TCR cars and that was with a very mild tune and all of the best time attack sessions black flagged. The post race data showed we were only 3 seconds off from the TCR cars. And we have stock aero
@@Live.drones that's seriously impressive, but I guarantee if you would have had the Active Sound Design set to TCR you would have been on pace
do you have a link to onbaords? Would love to see those laps (and also upgrades that've been made)
This car is the perfect amount of "responsible" daily driver and absolute blast on back roads. People think this is just for people that can't afford the Type R's, GR Corolla's, or Golf's, but after test driving a bunch of different things the extra money you spend on those models just aren't worth it unless you really care about the badge. I think these things will be future collector cars after some heavy depreciation just for how fun and ridiculous they are.
As an owner of a Veloster N, I approve of this video.
I got the first year 2019 VN, just hit 40k miles and I still love it
@@thomasengel1459aww you must be so poor you can only afford the cheap base models 😥 I’m sorry my guy, maybe get your money up?
@@MikeDawson1 Same here, I bought my 2019 VN new, still own it, and still love this car.
@@KyleV00 for real u in college stfu about money.
@@jesusofbacon that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever read 🤣 no I’m not in college, I’m a line tech at a Hyundai dealer, I’m soooo sorry I work for everything I have
So glad young pple can enjoy cars like this in times like this. I wish these things were around when I was young and poor 25 years ago
Let’s goooo! Been waiting on this man. Definitely going to be my next car soon.
Bought my FL5 at MSRP and while I genuinely prefer it, this is a cool car and a great value.
Picking up my 2024 EN tomorrow in this color but with a dct. This video was perfectly timed to get me even more excited for it
How did u find performance blue?
@@yourxricexbowlhe searched....
@@thomasengel1459 shut up lol
@@thomasengel1459momma is embarrassed about you
It's insane how good you guys are at your job. Fantastic breakdown.
Nice to see you guys Namyanging around
Fun fact this car is the exact same color as the Hyundai megaplant in Ulsan. They took the same paint they painted the factory exterior with and hit the cars with it too.
@@DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gm Didn't know that, that's pretty cool
Just wrecked my 2023 hyundai Elantra hybrid, and picked up an old prius to get by, but I really miss the Elantra. This looks almost the same except obviously a much more fun driving experience. Interior looks similar, infotainment, exterior. Once I have the money saved up I'm probably going to get one of these.
Looks way better. Now it's something I would consider
Just sold my Elantra N, I did love that car!
why did you sell
Heavily considering buying one of these
Awesome car, so glad it exists at this price point (Veloster N PP owner). I know I would only have to look at the styling before I got in to drive it, but COME ON!
That bump over the bridge sounded so brutal!
I’ve got the little bro i20N and it’s great. Takes 4 adults and you can beat on it and it’s already got all the features. And 5 years warranty inc non competitive track days! At least in the UK
Rear facing infant seat fits well in the one I tested. Helps with the "will it baby" question.
Rear facing booster fits too. I daily my kids to school and track on the weekends
@@nicholaswilliams6697 you're right. A rear facing all-in-one or convertible seat fits as well
After owning close to 30 cars i can say that my 22 EN is by far top three. Love the fact that you dont need a lot of track prep to take it out and enjoy it.
@@thomasengel1459 no need lol got other cars in the garage that I could use while is warranty. 150k mile warranty bumper to bumper…. So far multiple track days a year and 0 issues.
@@thomasengel1459 ask your mom :)
@@thomasengel1459 😂😂😂
Great to see you guys enjoying the EN, this car is a blast day in and day out and that is something rare these days. DCT squad
@CaptainFordo21 Eh, my main vehicle has had a manual transmission since I was 16 years old, but I owned a DCT VW R32 for a while and I loved that transmission. It’s a different kind of fun.
@CaptainFordo21 I'd rather drive a 10 speed truck for work, then drive my DCT on my own time :3
But CDL classes did make me consider trading for the manual
@CaptainFordo21Imagine picking stick when you have a DCT available.
I have my Kona N and I love it so far. Yes it’s loud and “uncomfortable” but realistically it’s not that bad and there is something special about having a fun car to daily and carry your body around in.
Strongly considering this as a replacement to my tuned civic. Much better starting point and I don’t wanna mess with my next car too much
Please no
Traded in my 2017 FK8 with full HKS bolt-on and HKS power editor, whiteline springs + some Mugen parts, Invidia exhaust and Enkei wheels for the 24 EN (DCT) in performance blue.
EN is more fun and better for daily driving. FL5 is very clean too, but it sounds like a vacuum cleaner with the stock exhaust and is too expensive for what it is.
@@thomasengel1459 honda isnt even a hyundai's competitor anymore. hyundai is currently worlds 2nd largest automaker in the world. pls update your brain
@@thomasengel1459what a shame trollboy 😅😅
Just bought a 24 DCT. Had some very high HP cars, and this car is quick. DCT shifts as good as the DCT in my C8. My BRZ TS was just too sluggish. Love the N so far. Best bang for the buck.
It’s so hard to acquire this car right now but I’ve waited a long time for this facelift and I’m on the waitlist for a Performance blue! Amazing review guys!!!!!
I called around there’s plenty available if you’re willing to travel
I recently bought the 24EN loving it! Great sedan
Great exhaust and even better video like always!
I'm sure it's fun but my 22 wrx only has $15k left before it's paid off.
It's been reliable and fun. I love dropping the clutch off the line into a corner.
I've had the fast bikes r6/r1 and 4x4 trucks Yada Yada. But what's cool to me now is AWD
Excellent video. I was considering this car but ended up with GR86. Enjoyed your videos on many cars deciding what to get
For the 2023 Elantra you guys recommended the 8 speed dual clutch over the manual. Would you still recommend the 8 speed dual clutch over the manual for the 2024?
As an adult enthusiast, I would be all over this if It didn't look as if it was made with Nintendo 64 graphics.
I didn’t like the exterior of 2023 model, but I still vote for it with my wallet. When a manufacturer built a car that has track-ready level cooling, fairly reliable compared to opponents, great warranty promises even when you go track it, and a reasonable price, it’s hard to say no. Every purchase decision we make it’s our chance to vote for the future car industry. We need the era of affordable and fun cars back, and that’s why I bought this car. I remember when Mark said the best way to kill off sports cars and affordable performance cars to keep talking about it and not buying them. We already lose a lot of option of fun, affordable, manual cars that smile on our face on street and track, so let’s not make a worse. Stop paying markups, and tell the industry what we need.
The N! An amazing beast. Wow
I do like the improved front end. Im personally not a huge fan of that particular blue shade so id pick a different color. Its pretty appealing as a package. This will be on my list now.
Whats still amazing to me is that no matter how much Jack and Mark love this car, the haters will still say something stupid to go against getting one. It's childish and at some point haters need to give this car the respect it deserves.
It is a really great car. It’s just that the Type R and Corolla GR are better.
@@erniejoel1234Type R is better but not $10k better. GR Corolla is not better AND costs more.
@@Symphoniicsexactly.
@Symphoniics $5k mark up is guaranteed so least $50k and honda financing rates are double. So payments almost double is it double the car? What most people that haven't shopped these cars don't understand
@@erniejoel1234 What's interesting to me, is that the stock 0-60 and 1/4 mile times of the type R and GRC are slower than a stock Elantra N. The Elantra N makes less power, it's a bit inexcusable for the cars costing $10k more to be slower in a strait line. The cornering potential of all these cars comes down to tires more than anything else.
Hyundai is absolutely killing it with the performance, value, and driver focused aspect of the N cars. The only thing they could improve on is hiring some better car designers
The new facelift is awesome no doubt. I love my 23, I don't care much about depreciation. I'll drive her till she grows old and tired. The Elantra N is a fun car. Sure it's a hyundai, but it's one hell of a hyundai 👍
Great video as always, and I hope your assistant brings it to autocross. I still love my Elantra N after 30k miles and plan on driving it into the ground.
I see a lot more EN on track than last year.
More ppl are recognizing this car now.
Been waiting for this! Glad yall still love this, I love my 23’ great do it all platform.
Curious the long term value. If it will have any major issues. But at the moment seems like a great car. Hope they keep making cars like this.
Honestly, for me, it wouldn’t matter. If I can get one I’m keeping it forever unless someone totals it. I haven’t felt this excited about a car since I bought my Fiesta ST in 2016 and I still have it. Best car I very had probably until the EN. Mainly buying it because the DCT. Want an automatic for my wife. It’ll also be more practical once we need to put a car seat in it and my 13 y/o daughter who’s almost 6 feet tall. I’ll still keep the FiST since it’s paid off 😎
@georgevigil7001 I traded to an EN from a full bolt on FIST. Be aware, the EN is two car sizes bigger. It's a chonky lady. Still miss the FIST, but EN had so much more refinement in every category
@@AnonAnon-qi4ts congrats on the car bro! Yeah I went and saw one in person and it’s like two FiST’s in length. Haha But we need that extra legroom in the back seat for my daughter and a car seat. I’m also looking forward to being able to set the dampers on comfort since my coils aren’t very comfortable on bad roads.
@@thomasengel1459🙊
Just got the call from my dealer that my allocation is being filled by the end of the month, cant wait!
My new 2024 Sedan N (as it’s named in Australia) was delivered to me mid February. It’s currently at the dealership having the DCT replaced under warranty. The car had only 1600kms on it when the hydraulic valve body accumulator in the DCT failed and pushed hydraulic fluid out of the housing early this month. It’s a shame. I’m looking forward to getting it back in a few days. Apart from that it’s a brilliant car. Hopefully nothing else serious fails.
Dude that sux. How did you know there was an issue? I just hit 1700km, no issues yet!
So the model is just "Sedan" trim level "N" there?
@@scotchbingeington6761 that's correct. We have the i30N hatch, the i30 Sedan N. We even got the i30 fastback N when it was around.
@@scotchbingeington6761 Yep correct. The i30 Sedan N premium.
Hopefully they get it sorted out. I got a minor transmission leak at 60k (kilometre) in my 6MT EN and now rocking a new transmission. I think my seals couldn't handle Canadian extremes. Took delivery in middle of winter and drove it extensively through the worst storms (everyone got stuck), but lucky me, tow truck stopped to pull out my Elantra N (must have been racing blue that got his attention) and quickly went home afterwards cause it was insane even for toe truck.
Trouble is personally I really like analog RWD! I chose an FA24 BRZ and fitted a HARROP supercharger. 300 rwhp certainly winds the superlative platform up to a fun factor of 11. Makes for one very special yet still affordable car :)
I should be getting mine by the end of this month. So excited!
Great video
@@thomasengel1459 That's where the 100k mile warranty comes in.
@@thomasengel1459get a life
Ordered one new thanks to this video
under 40k all good and well, but I heard on RUclips Hyundai 4-cylinder engines aren't reliable. Any thoughts on that? 'Cause if that's the case, I'd rather pay more and get a reliable thing.
The N car engines are vastly different than other, especially older 4 cyl engines from Hyundai. These have been proven to be largely reliable. Either way, 10 year / 100k warranty on the engine and components.
Check Veloster N reviews. That car is old now and the engines are nearly identical save the bigger turbo. Compared to a K20 which are known to burn a little oil and get a 2nd gear crunchy syncro since they came out nearly 25 years ago. Legacy problems Honda never fixed. The Hyundai is solid and they have a pretty sturdy 6 speed in-house manual that doesnt have shit syncros.
Have one of these and Hyundai Ioniq 5 N and I’d dare say that you’d have a fun garage that is year round usable.
Sad they discontinued the Kona N.
Great review, thanks! Any chance you are going to review the Ioniq 5N anytime soon? I am considering buying one but I really want to hear your take on it first as it's a lot of money! 🙂
*Hears Robin Williams yelling “Gooooood morning Viet Nam!”, realizes it’s Monday, hits Savagegeese for this week’s new review*
Test drove a '23 Elantra N before buying my '24 Civic Si. Still don't regret my choice. Drove my 20 year old Civic EX over 240K miles and it was still running fine when I traded it in - would I be able to do the same in a Hyundai?
"...would I be able to do the same in a Hyundai?"
I'm just guessing here, but probably. Hyundai deserves to be released from it's twenty year old reputations as a cheap and crappy brand. They're still cheap, but they've largely grown out of the crappiness. I'm not saying they're AS good as a Honda or Toyota, but they're a LOT closer than they're old reputation would suggest. Plus, they give it a friggin ten year warranty. Who else does that?
Heck, my 2013 Ford truck has 275,000-miles on it now. I've had to replace a leaky radiator recently, but still have never had any engine or transmission issue at all, except for the regular required maintenance stuff. Not a single one. It's a FORD for crying out loud. Even the crappy stuff built today is better than stuff was twenty or thirty years ago, just based on improved metallurgy, tighter manufacturing tolerances, and other advances of that nature.
No
owns mine EN for a little over a year now, like all fun cars, you get used to it and get bored, but the difference between this vs any sports car is I still daily it to the grocery stores, and whenever I feel like it I still can slam it into a corner harder than my brz, and make exhaust crack those noises, I don't see me selling it until my 10 year 100,000 miles warranty due
I sold my MK7 R a few weeks ago, if I was still into FWD turbo 4 cylinders, this thing is definitely on top of that list
The Type-R might not have the whimsy, but it’s definitely a sharper knife.
True but least you don't have get on your hands and knees beg for $5k over msrp(like that's a deal) 😂
@@BitcoinTo150KThat’s cheap l lol here in Canada these cars MSRP for 52 grand and dealers are asking 75,000 grand. Same with the Si 35,900 but dealers are asking 43,000. Honda dealers here are gansters plain and simple.
@@BitcoinTo150K MSRP is out there, but obviously going to depend where you live. def seen MSRP in Ohio. not really in MI where i'm at. but i already have an fk8 and i didn't have to overpay for it.
Glad I have my 2022 as I sincerely think it's cooler looking but happy others are stoked that they watered it down for more to appreciate it.
That's what every current EN owner says. It's being biased TBH. 99% of non EN owners prefer the new look. Simple as that
@@porfiriato84Yep, exactly lol. The only places I see people prefer the older design are EN Facebook groups and the EN subreddit. Everywhere else online and irl, people prefer the face lift
And that's why they added it for y'all 👍🏽@@Symphoniics
Make more and gettem in the damn dealerships! Can’t buy what doesn’t physically exist.
The dealerships that get them only allocate about two per month and they are sold out even before it hits the showroom floor.
@@mrk2ovtec yeah, not enough stock
If you can find a larger, high volume dealer in a metro area they definitely get way more allocations. If you're willing to travel a bit you can find one.
It's frustrating dealing with the guys who aren't used to selling enthusiast cars and treat the N products like they're some kind of low production exotics but there are dealers out there who move a lot of these.
To see the turn around that Hyundai has had, from its dealer interactions to their value quality, its nice to see you recognize when a brand makes changes. They've came a long way in the last 5 years and it shows through your videos.