other characters win a fight: taunt the enemy or strike a pose! Havik wins a fight: "time to get on my hands and knees and bash my face into the ground a bunch of times!" >:D I LOVE Havik, he is one of my absolute favorites up there with Reptile. he's just such a fun kharacter to watch.
Shao looks really good in this game, I'm usually a shao main but I've switched to Reiko because he's new to me and he's like if shao never picked up the hammer
i legit had no clue that shit could be plus. you have to hit it EXACT max range and its plus 1. from that range its not super useful to be plus by that little, but even it being zero essentially all the time is amazing. truly a cracked button
It really is an amazing move. Can't even blame that guy for pressing the crap out of it. It is Shao's best stagger. Sometimes I will literally keep throwing out standing 2 by itself at max range until it hits. Works more often than you might think
2nd hit of his standing 2 is plus but the third is punishable. But his 214 2 is goes through so much stuff, either gets him out or beats some armor moves.
I could be reading too into it, but Shao's "wake-up into more damage" could be a design reference to the couple times in prior games where he's "feigned exhaustion" in his Boss fights.
Someone tell Max to try out Stryker with Havik. Because holy shit I think he's even a better fit than Cyrax. Although you can't combo from 22 or 11 into db1 with Stryker, you can still do it from f12 and b22. You also get insane oki after every combo, a +6 on block 22 frame overhead, a +1 low, better zoning options (although sometimes I prefer the net for counter zoning) and even more damage than Cyrax since he provides less damage scaling. I think Stryker is the next meta after Cyrax, I really do think so.
I wish that when they were fighting Havik, they were just putting bandages on him and fixing him up in elaborate which deals damage and he gains health from destroying himself and breaking his bones and stuff. It’s supposed to be ironic and not everyone would like it, but to me it would be hilarious.
wait is this why so many of my powerslams fail after hitting a wakeup EX upknee? I have been getting so frustrated by this and I didnt know why I kept dropping powerslam
Ayyyyyyyee I’ve played against this shao! IIRC he was tearing up a KOTH, my own shao and his had some very close ones but his spacing and whiff punishing was crazy
Shao without the axe is great, but with it he has one good normal that has good frames, the rest of it is slow and easily punished, very few plus frames to play with on him.
You should try havik/jax, you get some cool combos from jax kameo into db1 with good damage that ends in ex roll not to mentions dirty setuos from jax unblocakble
What if these fighting games added more of a screen size zoom in and out mechanic to make room for bigger characters ( like slightly bigger than Abigail) Nothing as crazy as Smash Brothers. Imagine being being able to play as Diablo in the next Killer Instinct. Could add more dynamic movement and zoning into the equation...
I would think devs are interested in ideas and new approaches to their games. Im inclined to think that many of the "leaks" that happen in this industry are intentional so the devs may get some insight on the way their product will be receivedby the consumer. That is also one of the reasons for BETAs. Sometimes innovation happens from a suggestions in unlikely places. You might not think the idea but there is nothing wrong with sharing ideas. That's a part of discussion, or in this case "chat". Did you think it was a bad idea?
Max is doing something wrong when he calls havik away he has to have something better then jumping and hitting his opponent twic knocking them back full screen
kinda feels like this game is devolving into a guessing game of high and low attacks. i never really feel good when i win, i kinda feel like i just got done doing a chore after i won lol. its very weird.
It’s kinda easy to know when you will get hit with a high and low. Maybe not the first match, but after two matches you will definitely figure out how people play with certain characters
@@VeotheVillain im saying in other fighting games it doesnt feel like a chore because im not only fighting another player, im also fighting against slow/stiff NRS movement lol
@@hands-ongaming7180 nah i'd be fine with high damage and kameos and all that IF the movement speed was mkx level. movement is too slow for everything going on in the game. its not as slow as mk11 but not up to mk9/X.
@@timwardo5877 best he looked, not best he played. I was playing shao before the tournament and third variations were out. But, I was still crushing skulls. I think because his frames and a lot of folks did not use him people assumed he was bad. I could give folks a run for their money. You really just have to know how to use him. Psyche people out
@@BlindHaikido We’re talking about his place on the overall scale compared to characters. Anyone can do well with a character. But overall Shao was not good conpared to the likes of like Jaqui, Joker and Kabal. Nobody is talking about you.
Daily reminder that MK1 fumbled the bag so bad that MK11 got a player boost out of it and literally has 4000 more active players just on PC, where the game isn’t even free :)
ah yes, the Nagoriyuki effect, where carried high-tier players complain yet again about ANOTHER big character that has good damage just for people to realize the character is poopy and easy as hell to shut down by literally just blocking.
Uhh this shao play is nothing special as a Shao main take it from me he did very little optimal anything. Just spammed 222 and it worked out, no 50/50s no oki set ups nothin. I'm not impressed but what do I know lol
If it is consider skipping your command grab as a finisher for combos and instead finish with something like 223 or 22 DB3 or whatever variation depending on scaling at that point and using unarmed stance for what it's intended for which is pressure and mix up. Especially with Lao its decently strong.
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other characters win a fight: taunt the enemy or strike a pose!
Havik wins a fight: "time to get on my hands and knees and bash my face into the ground a bunch of times!" >:D
I LOVE Havik, he is one of my absolute favorites up there with Reptile. he's just such a fun kharacter to watch.
Havik's stimming is pretty intense.
Shao’s come a long way from being bottom 3 for all of MK11’s lifespan, now he’s been promoted to perfectly solid mid-tier.
As a Shao main I am proud of the player that has represented me today👍
Shao looks really good in this game, I'm usually a shao main but I've switched to Reiko because he's new to me and he's like if shao never picked up the hammer
@@makiroll8720you know who is also like shao if he never picked up the hammer?
shao cuz he uses an axe this game :p
@@dylanwins9839 you just wait until I unlock a hammer for his gear, I will only use that in spite of this comment
All ten of us Shao mains raise our axes with pride for this man
There are dozens of us! Dozens!!
The standing 2 from Shao is an 8 frame poke that has good range and is plus on block (pending on the range.)
i legit had no clue that shit could be plus. you have to hit it EXACT max range and its plus 1. from that range its not super useful to be plus by that little, but even it being zero essentially all the time is amazing. truly a cracked button
It really is an amazing move. Can't even blame that guy for pressing the crap out of it. It is Shao's best stagger. Sometimes I will literally keep throwing out standing 2 by itself at max range until it hits. Works more often than you might think
Low pokes that have range gives Shao problems he has both bf meaty when he has the axe
That kung lao assist really helps Shao with his high pokes
2nd hit of his standing 2 is plus but the third is punishable. But his 214 2 is goes through so much stuff, either gets him out or beats some armor moves.
I could be reading too into it, but Shao's "wake-up into more damage" could be a design reference to the couple times in prior games where he's "feigned exhaustion" in his Boss fights.
You should try Kung Lao and Havik, the spin could help you extend combos and the hat can give you more mix and zoning.
Max playing Havik is something of a wild dream man, love to see him playing more unusual characters. Would be cool if he tried Rain.
When that General Shao said “2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1” I really felt understood 😭
One of the most undertalked about characters. Shao can be absolutely nutty. Love seeing him go wild
Someone tell Max to try out Stryker with Havik. Because holy shit I think he's even a better fit than Cyrax. Although you can't combo from 22 or 11 into db1 with Stryker, you can still do it from f12 and b22. You also get insane oki after every combo, a +6 on block 22 frame overhead, a +1 low, better zoning options (although sometimes I prefer the net for counter zoning) and even more damage than Cyrax since he provides less damage scaling. I think Stryker is the next meta after Cyrax, I really do think so.
He's underrated af right now
Jesus I understand the lingo but imagine saying this to your middle aged father at the dinner table homie would belt you for sure 😂
22:00 finally a Stryker appearance after all this time
LOL, Stryker's copcar noises has me dead.
Max complaining about the Shao player pressing buttons is pretty ironic lol
Max's Havik is a joy to watch!
Thanks for the videos Max! Stay healthy ✌️
Wassup Max? Good matches bro!
I wish that when they were fighting Havik, they were just putting bandages on him and fixing him up in elaborate which deals damage and he gains health from destroying himself and breaking his bones and stuff. It’s supposed to be ironic and not everyone would like it, but to me it would be hilarious.
Shao's EX Upknee only gives full combo if his armour hasn't been hit on the way up.
Yeah, block it or hit him and he won’t get the extra damage
wait is this why so many of my powerslams fail after hitting a wakeup EX upknee? I have been getting so frustrated by this and I didnt know why I kept dropping powerslam
r all these videos before the patch ?
Cyrax lookin like a stormtrooper🤣😂🤣
As someone who cant catch the streams, can someone tell me if hes having alot of fun on m1k?
He is.
He said it’s his favorite MK game despite the problems and it’s the game hes spending the most time in rn so yeah
@@timwardo5877 yay!
That Shao match was super entertaining
That Smoke is crazy
Pedro was not playing around
Ayyyyyyyee I’ve played against this shao! IIRC he was tearing up a KOTH, my own shao and his had some very close ones but his spacing and whiff punishing was crazy
Man I love MK1
I wonder if ppl see max and I know it’s him do they get extra motivated to prove a point
Shao looked unstoppable, but it seems like the smokes gave you a harder time.
Why does my havik always roll under them 😭
you can control the distance when you roll, hold back after using b,f+4 and he will do a short roll
nice to see such a good shao
seems like coked up is the only way to play smoke
There is a reason he is known as the great
What rank is max?
Shao is dope af
Shao without the axe is great, but with it he has one good normal that has good frames, the rest of it is slow and easily punished, very few plus frames to play with on him.
You should try havik/jax, you get some cool combos from jax kameo into db1 with good damage that ends in ex roll not to mentions dirty setuos from jax unblocakble
It would be soo pointless to fight a real life havok everytime u punch him he gets turned on lol
Can we just talk aout how it's sooo damn fun to main a character who can cut off parts of his ody and use them as weapons ????
Da Hell is wrong with Havik?
What are you talking about
Oogabalooga
Give them work
Katana doesn't use a Katana? That's really dumb.
I hope Max tries out Nitara if he hasnt yet. I would love to see him get good with her, especially post-patch.
Max you're the best!!
What if these fighting games added more of a screen size zoom in and out mechanic to make room for bigger characters ( like slightly bigger than Abigail) Nothing as crazy as Smash Brothers. Imagine being being able to play as Diablo in the next Killer Instinct. Could add more dynamic movement and zoning into the equation...
its always easier to think of an idea and expect other to do the bulk of the work
I would think devs are interested in ideas and new approaches to their games. Im inclined to think that many of the "leaks" that happen in this industry are intentional so the devs may get some insight on the way their product will be receivedby the consumer. That is also one of the reasons for BETAs. Sometimes innovation happens from a suggestions in unlikely places. You might not think the idea but there is nothing wrong with sharing ideas. That's a part of discussion, or in this case "chat". Did you think it was a bad idea?
Max is doing something wrong when he calls havik away he has to have something better then jumping and hitting his opponent twic knocking them back full screen
I think the route he's doing is actually optimal for damage. That air string does a lot of damage.
@@davidantunes9900 oh I see it just looks off
General Shao is easily vanquished if you use Sereena kameo
I got to god rank playing shao and that’s just not true lol
Motaro be like :D
why not learn your brutalities man?
I love your content MAX but twenty AD BREAKS! Too much! Something gotta change.
kinda feels like this game is devolving into a guessing game of high and low attacks. i never really feel good when i win, i kinda feel like i just got done doing a chore after i won lol. its very weird.
Wouldn’t that just mean you worked for the win technically lol
It’s kinda easy to know when you will get hit with a high and low. Maybe not the first match, but after two matches you will definitely figure out how people play with certain characters
@@VeotheVillain im saying in other fighting games it doesnt feel like a chore because im not only fighting another player, im also fighting against slow/stiff NRS movement lol
Well that’s what you guys wanted. A slower game that did less damage and no kameos.
@@hands-ongaming7180 nah i'd be fine with high damage and kameos and all that IF the movement speed was mkx level. movement is too slow for everything going on in the game. its not as slow as mk11 but not up to mk9/X.
Rezo para que pongan a Snake Eyes, Storm Shadown, Baroness, Scarlett, He-Man, Skeletor, Lobo, Michael Myers y a The Tóxic Avenger como DLC 🤩🤗😎!!!!!!
He was better in mk 11. You just gotta know how to use him
No. I’m sorry but MK11 Shao was bottom one for the longest time until he became barely mid at the end. This is the best Shao’s looked in a long time
@@timwardo5877 best he looked, not best he played. I was playing shao before the tournament and third variations were out. But, I was still crushing skulls.
I think because his frames and a lot of folks did not use him people assumed he was bad. I could give folks a run for their money. You really just have to know how to use him. Psyche people out
I have not played for a while but I’m sure I could get back into it and still wreck folks.
@@BlindHaikido We’re talking about his place on the overall scale compared to characters. Anyone can do well with a character. But overall Shao was not good conpared to the likes of like Jaqui, Joker and Kabal. Nobody is talking about you.
@@timwardo5877 anyone is good if you just know how to play them. I don’t see your argument
Havik is another character that needed nerf
Shut
The fug up
Daily reminder that MK1 fumbled the bag so bad that MK11 got a player boost out of it and literally has 4000 more active players just on PC, where the game isn’t even free :)
Stop the cap lil bro, the game is great. Also why tf you watching it if you don't like it?
@@davidantunes9900 daily reminder that the game is rated pretty badly by players, and you can check the playercount pretty easily :)
ah yes, the Nagoriyuki effect, where carried high-tier players complain yet again about ANOTHER big character that has good damage just for people to realize the character is poopy and easy as hell to shut down by literally just blocking.
How exactly is Havik high tier lol
Uhh this shao play is nothing special as a Shao main take it from me he did very little optimal anything. Just spammed 222 and it worked out, no 50/50s no oki set ups nothin. I'm not impressed but what do I know lol
What can you setup with shao? You delayed wakeup and easily avoid his 20 frames mixup
Is that a serious question lmao
If it is consider skipping your command grab as a finisher for combos and instead finish with something like 223 or 22 DB3 or whatever variation depending on scaling at that point and using unarmed stance for what it's intended for which is pressure and mix up. Especially with Lao its decently strong.
For the love of god PLEASE start up blocking Smoke's low into overhead string!
This game plays like its under water i hate it.