The Half Arsed ECW/TNA Invasion in 2010!
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- IN 2010 TNA had a lot of bad things happen but they were attention grabbing. Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, RVD and Mr Kennedy joined the show. There were a lot of new faces already but TNA decided to run with an invasion angle. ECW stars from the past started turning up and invading TNA. It turned out Dixie Carter had invited them and they were going to have their own pay per view Hardcore Justice 2010. RVD, Mick Foley, Tommy Dreamer, Raven and Rhyno lead the fight against the TNA roster as they battled Hogan's Immortal faction. This storyline actually ran for five months and it was really a mixed bag. Nostalgia mixed with birdturd!
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It feels kind of weird to see New Jack in a footage that isn't low-res.
Lol you're right 💯
Same. When I think of New Jack, I think of grainy videos of New Jack mauling an old wrestler while the crowd hurls slurs making Jack more mad as he dishes out more punishment as the show goes on😂
"Tommy Dreamer ain't done though," sums up recent TNA history.
It looked like Stevie Richards and a group of recent halfway house evictees.
Stevie really held onto his looks and his fitness. Guess karma gives you the face and body you deserve.
😂😂
LMAO
Fun Fact: Jeff Hardy beat Raven twice to send him packing out of separate companies.
First, albeit not on purpose, Jeff beat him to qualify for the 2003 Royal Rumble Match before being let go. And then, Raven's match in TNA 7-8 years later against the same man.
Geez, never really thought of it like that. Raven probably gets PTSD when he sees Jeff lol
Bald Sabu was always so weird to see.
He's like cell from dbz.
No hair-imperfect sabu.
Hair-semi perfect sabu.
Hair and turban-perfect Sabu.
@@RikkyNelihanwhy much y’all comparing things to anime lol
Also look like Perry Saturn without Tattoo.
@@MrAjking808 Because wrestling is live action anime.
@@tafua_a lmao definitely isn’t 😂
The best thing to come out of this was Steven Richards basically calling Mick Foley opportunistic and insincere in his RF shoot.
video link?
I've seen it myself, he definitely said it. Surely it isn't that hard for you to type in Stevie Richards shoots on Mick Foley in the search bar... @extremeking425
Interesting. I'd like to hear a little more context on the matter
@@PaidProgramming-th6tp Richards expressed (i might be paraphrasing) annoyance with Foley feeling the need to inject himself into the storyline, after he apparently was not supposed to be a focal point of it.
Richards also noticed that Foley tried to push himself front and center on a lot of the shots that were taken while they were in the ring and that his "Aww, shucks" / happy-go-lucky way of presenting himself, was pretty much a work and that he was as cunning as many of the other guys Richards came across during his career.
@@Bale4BondWell, he was the biggest star amongst them.
I tagged with Raven in January 2010. It was the week after Hogan came in. I asked if he was buddies with Hogan due to their time in WCW. He said there was no heat but no friendship. I think he knew he was on borrowed time in TNA.
I tagged with Hogan. He told me there was major, big time heat.
I tagged with Raven and Hogan together, twice on Sunday. You guys got worked.
What match ?
I was suppose to tag with Hogan, but he never showed up. Apparently it just didn’t work for him.
This whole ECW Invasion angle could've worked better in 2003 when Raven was coming into NWA-TNA. A majority of the ECW wrestlers (except the Dudleys, Paul Heyman, Rob Van Dam, Tommy Dreamer, Yoshihiro Tajiri, Rhino, Little Guido, Dawn Marie, and Jazz) were free agents who could've made it to NWA-TNA at that time, and actually jump-start a good invasion angle instead of the SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT EXTREME angle we got.
Agreed. And having Raven lead or augur an invasion would make so much more sense, considering his malevolent character who likes to manipulate others with ideology.
They sort of did. There was a faction consisting of Perry Saturn, New Jack, the Sandman and Justin Credible in TNA 2003, but they never amounted to much. Just a feud with the Disciples of the New Church.
“Let’s give ECW one last run, where they lose and get clowned the whole time.”
TNA in a nutshell.
Let's force them to leave
WWE did the same thing as well.
T shirts from the early 2010s were wild 😂
Very affliction inspired
@@user-rx2hw8up2j ya affliction, xtreme couture, ed hardy and tap out were running wild back then
@@user-rx2hw8up2ji miss the Affliction era
Ha. It's true. Early 2010s/late 2000s. The Affliction stuff, the Ed Hardy stuff. The V Neck shirts. It was a time
@@PaidProgramming-th6tpxtreme Couture and tap out was also pretty fucked 😅
The TNA I grew up on for better or worse, wouldn’t change it.
The ECW boys were lookin pretty ruff by that point. I wouldn't be worried about them invading my kitchen
By 2010 half of roster was dead, or ,addicts or old and knacked. The few talented ones like storm, Lynn all were trainers elsewhere.
and some of them (like Sandman) were never actually good ever
@@DioBrandoWRYYYYYYExactly
@DioBrandoWRYYYYYY but can hit a man over the head with a bottle.
@@qwertyuiop123456459 and cut himself like a knacker.
but the main reason why he got over is because he would just come out to a song that everyone knows. In a sense, Sandman himself was never over, people just love Enter Sandman by Metallica that much.
@DioBrandoWRYYYYYY no trust me he was over he couldn't wrestle but man was he loved and it was more than just the song
I remember that "You can fill in the blanks/I think you just did" exchange from Botchamania and laughing my ass off.
ECW has been re-done to death more than the horsemen and nWo
This is easily one of the best wrestling channels on RUclips. Im homeless watching this in my tent. You make my evenings easier, bro. Love for the Hawk!
The problem with the ECW invasion of TNA in 2010, was that it felt far too similar to WWE in 2006.
Some of the same issues of the ECW names being just a small group happened in TNA just like it did in WWE as well.
TNA did have the advantage of having Rhyno, Raven and The Dudley’s which helped, as WWE didn’t have them in 2006.
WWE actually tried to re sign Rhyno in 2006 for the WWECW show, but Rhyno said no thanks and stayed with TNA.
The issues with WWECW is the roster that the WWECW show started with in June 2006, 1 year later in June 2007, about 70% of the June 2006 WWECW roster are all gone because of Vince releasing everyone or talents contracts running out and talents not wanting to re sign.
So the WWECW roster in the summer of 2006 is
Big Show (why as he didn’t suit the show)
Kurt Angle
RVD
Sandman
Sabu
Tommy Dreamer
Steven Richards
Balls Mahoney
Nunzio
Tony Mamaluke
Justin Credbile
Al Snow
Danny Doring
CW Anderson
Roadkill (why WWE signed him I don’t know)
Big Guido (why WWE signed him I don’t know)
Francine
Shannon Moore
CM Punk
Test
Hardcore Holly
Trinity
Kelly Kelly
Mike Knox
Kevin Thorn
Ariel
Matt Striker (why as he didn’t suit the show)
Rene Dupree (why as he didn’t suit the show)
Doug and Danny Basham (as Heyman’s goons)
Rodney Mack (why WWE re signed him I don’t know)
Rebecca Di Petro (who was the interviewer)
Justin Roberts (the ring announcer)
Tazz and Joey Styles on commentary
And Paul Heyman
By June 2007, just 12 months later the only ones left from the summer of 2006 on WWECW are
Tommy Dreamer
Balls Mahoney
Steven Richards
Nunzio
Mike Knox
CM Punk
Matt Striker
Kelly Kelly
Tazz and Joey Styles on commentary
Justin Roberts as ring announcer
That’s all that’s left on WWECW just 12 months later, as everyone else was either released, contracts ran out, or were moved to Raw or SmackDown.
Another big issue with WWECW was that Vince just wanted it to be a 3rd brand after Raw and SmackDown, so a WWE show, and not it’s own separate thing,
The Sandman actually survived in the WWE for a surprisingly long time!
@@Markyd123 Yeah he was released from his WWE contract in September 2007.
He got drafted to Raw in June 2007, and Sandman thought it was a joke.
Sandman had a shoot interview years ago and said he got a phone call from someone in WWE saying they are moving him to Raw, and Sandman laughed his head off as he thought it was a joke.
Sandman’s last appearance for WWE was the night that Hornswoggle was revealed as Vince’s son kayfabe on Raw, and Sandman missed his cue to leave so he was the in the final 3 with JBL and Triple H.
Sandman actually took his WWE run seriously and got in shape for it as well.
Damn. Couldn't even keep the stoner friend.
@@vengeanceandfashion WWE signed Shannon Moore in 2001 after WCW closed.
Shannon Moore was in WWE Developmental from 2001 to 2003, in HWA.
WWE had a short couple of years of partnership with HWA for developmental talent.
Shannon Moore got called up to SmackDown in 2003 to be Matt Hardy’s lackey.
In 2004 Shannon Moore got released and went to TNA and Indies.
In 2006 WWE re singed Shannon Moore to be on the WWECW show, who had changed his whole look and gimmick by the time WWE re singed him, as Shannon Moore was doing a Punk Reject gimmick.
For months on WWECW you just saw vignettes of a silent Shannon Moore looking weird with his Punk reject gimmick.
Then CM Punk slapped Shannon Moore and called him a poser, then all Shannon Moore did after that was job to everyone.
Then in June 2007 Shannon Moore got moved to SmackDown and ditched his Punk Reject gimmick and just did jobs on SmackDown for a year.
Then in the summer or fall of 2008 Shannon Moore got released again.
TNA didn’t re sign Shannon Moore until 2010 where he was doing his Punk Reject gimmick again.
Yeah if 2006 heyman picked Kurt angle and rey mysterio the show would of been OK
I will say that Hulk being the one that fired him and calling him a crybaby is kind of appropriate, considering that in WCW he was basically that.
For your next Ring of the Hawk, you should do Ezekiel, Elias's Goofy Alter Ego Run. He had a total of 15 matches in 2022. I need someone to just try to cover this confusing run.
The main thing I remember is Aj getting a fork to the eye by Dreamer.
1 spot out of an entire company wide angle
Styles put the fork in Dreamer's eye
BAM, the old fork in the eye!
Wrestlers that were out of their prime... But rhyno and dreamer are still in TNA 😂
Raven looked extremely old by this point and it’s only 5 years after him being a NWA champion in the company
Fun fact: Both of Raven's final WWE & TNA matches were against Jeff Hardy.
Raven is All Elite confirmed 😂
Hey Hawk glad you are better 👍🏻
This going to be a fun video
It actually was revealed that Bischoff lied about Rhino getting a new contract
Immortal Birds is the name of my Golden Girls themed Rush cover band.
Red Blanchetta
Lord Hawk!!! King of the skies and stach. Please do every crazy/ insane ECW spot
I've always said that wrestling should've stayed with an "open door" concept like in the 80s. Groups like ECW and NWO could've carried on full time, which would've given invasion angles more power and making each company more money.
We need a Janice (Abyss’ bat) episode
What’s up Hawkbrotherman thank you for another video 🫡 love listening to these
I remember this. This sucked the life out ECW-stalgia completely
They came because Dixie named their price, especially Hulk. Flair had a dislike for hardcore wrestling?! I guess he changed his viewpoint quickly.
"Flair had a dislike for hardcore wrestling?!"
*BLEEDING IN ALMOST EVERY MATCH* 😆😆
@@kidwaryodproduction Bleeding and hardcore matches are not the same thing, dummy.
Gotta love watching the potential for amazing things go down the drain.
MarkyD you gotta do Kung Funaki on Ring of the Hawk, I won’t stop until you squawk!
Hell ya!
10:45 Brian sounds like he's impersonate Juventud Guerrera speaking. 😆
The irony of Dreamer now is that for me, his stock is so low and over-exposed, like some others from the 90s now, but he's all about that ECW stuff and it's just..."How can i miss you when you never leave, Tommy?"
The best stuff was Flair and Foley, the rest who cared...? Raven was past it, Rhyno flipped and flipped so many times, it's hard to care and no Dudleyz, how can you not put them into this and feature them losing and then building up to Bully Ray leaving and going full heel with Immortal?
Dreamer is really the perfect utility guy.
- Solid promo
- Solid worker
- Runs a wrestling school/company
- Well liked
- Willing to do anything for his employer
- Rarely injured/out due to injury
- Can book (did so for ECW/OVW at times)
- Low drama (except for the Ric Flair incident comments)
He was a head office worker until WWECW came into play.
You could make an argument he's the most successful wrestler relevant to his talent level of all time.
Even crazier that he's technically a world champion in WWE's history books (albeit with the silver plate WWECW title)
@@juicyeboi9006that belt had Christian attached, it's a worthy belt for that era, Tommy didn't get a run back in the day is very surprising. I get why he's loved but I'm talking about him now in TNA when he's over the hill. That's my issue.
Tommy Dreamer seems like the shitty common denominator in a lot of things.
Sad but true. He seems like a well-intentioned fella, but you never hear anyone say he's a GOAT or their favourite. Tbh think he's way more popular with the lockerroom than with punters.
@@pendafen7405 Don’t get me wrong, he’s integral to ECW’s legacy. I can’t remember reading anything about him being a dick or anything similar backstage. Although, the last couple of years, between the DSoTR episode and my learning of him wanting to murder suicide Heyman at WM17, has definitely soured my opinion of him.
@@Honk_Hogan he was serious about doing that at WM17? Yikes, that's new (and scary) information to me.
@@pendafen7405that's nothing! He wanted to do a storyline where he wanted to get shot by a sniper with Raven being the one to pull the trigger and there's the storyline where if he was to ever get a terminal illness, then Raven must be the one to end him
Glad you’re feeling better
Glad you feeling better hawk
ECW is taking TNA to the Extreme
2010 tna was damn near 2000 wcw
Then there’s 2024 aew
@@Greenbeans0987 TNA\AEW is still alive
At 2:35 Even Tommy Dreamer knew what Hogan was saying is B.S
And he’s thinking right then and there where can I get a Good Burger.
Not in TNA catering...If they even had it!
This invasion was sadder then the WCW invasion of the WWF. 🤢
A one-time PPV with proper build-up could've been nice. Not being able to call themselves ECW hurt but not having Paul Heyman is bad too
Awesome video lol. Wwwe did new ecw and Jackson guy last ecw world champ
The funniest part is hulkster calling anyone a crybaby
Hulk kept the entire wrestling business hostage during the 90’s and shooter on up and coming stars
And realistically hogan vs Austin would have tore the roof off a huge venue I would say let hogan won’t the first match clean a pissed Austin stuns him after the match and does his swearing in his face and it sparks hogan interfering with Austin’s matches
You can side with your favorite the entire wrestling fanbase would be torn in two
His target was Raven though, who had his own history of being a crybaby at least in kayfabe. If we consider TNA to be a spin-off of WCW, then we can consider the "Raven is a spoilt rich kid" twist to be canon.
Excellent video
It really bugs me when legends don't go out on a high note and tarnish theur legacies. (This is obviously not limited to ECW guys). Can you imagine a 60 year old hottie in a bikini doing the same thing? It just doesn't work.)
I remember when that AJ Styles Stevie Richards styles clash botch. On the commentary, they were talking about how AJ was learning to be more vicious. I thought that was planned but from interviews since then. It wasnt
Commenting on every new video until J&J security gets a video
That’s actually not bad
Tooguri, dooguri, doo!
Most annoying trend in comments
Go wave a flag!
Lots of old past there prime ECW legends only dreamer and only a few others could go.
The TNA Rejects 😂😂😂😂 1:19
Never understood why Fortune were the bad guys in the story because they have a right to be upset with ECW guys taking TV time away from the younger TNA guys. I do think the story went too long it would just make sense to make this a one night only type of PPV instead if having the story continue for months.
Even they could used the Russo Faction to make it constant
I guess they thought people wouldn’t want to boo ecw??
5:00 SWEET JAYSUS, how did they get away with showing that? Like, RVD is...dead!
Calling it half assed is too much of a compliment: It was a fifth assed at best.
I don't know why they didn't go by the Extreme Revolution as some of the ECW guys called themselves that when they were TNA during 2003.
I think, at that time NWA/TNA didn't have so much money than in 2010. The first ever PPV Bound For Glory 2003, which was cancelled, speaks so much about this.
@@Curtisisback1they cancelled it because they were going to build it around Hogan-Jarrett, and Hogan backed out, no?
@@Jffeeney3rd you're partly right, Hogan backed out because TNA couldn't offer him big money for the appearance in their PPV.
@@Curtisisback1 plus he was going into the WWE HOF, and he didn’t wanna screw it up, along with any return match paydays.
Only thing that TNA did better than WWECW was New Jack came in yeah probably the best part of TNA's ECW invasion
let’s be honest, outside the cruisers, most guys in the original ecw weren’t in shape anyways
7:23 I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that because, similar to Orton versus HHH and the McMahon in that feud heading into WM25, the Fortune Faction are the most justified heels in wrestling history. Keep in mind that a signature PPV that TNA ran every year was Hard Justice. That PPV gets turned into an ECW reunion show (the 5000th ECW reunion show ever up to that point) called Hard-Core Justice. TNA, for the most part before 2010, was about establishing young stars who help repackage and resurrect the careers of former WWF/E, WCW, and ECW superstars. But now, a bunch of ECW has-beens who are 9 or 10 years older since the original ECW folded and 5 years older since the first One Night Stand PPV got their own PPV in TNA and can't even use certain names and can't even say ECW because the WWE owns the naming rights. Fortune were justified heels.
Seeing Fortune in those "cheap" suits was not a good look. Styles looked like a school teacher
By the time we get to the next ECW Show - we'll have some extreme grandpas coming down to the ring with canes and walkers. The ECW guys did something great in the 90s but that lightning in a bottle is long gone. To try and recpature former glory only serves to make them look like asses. At least RVD's still going alright.
Weirdly enough they could have used NWA TNA as a basis
I remember ordering Hardcore Justice on ppv for some reason at that time I thought it was a good idea and was really excited going in and very obviously was let down by it lol
I Did A Video On The EV 2.0 First But Good Video Markyd Good To See You Back
Keep up the good work bro. Most ideas been done now sorry to tread on your toes
@@Markyd123 No I Know What You & Me Are Doing Big Fan Of You're Channel With The Ring Of The Hawk
Brian Kendrick meant to say "serendipity" not "synchronicity"
Nice first good vid bro
Was there more ECW reunion shows than WCW/NWO revival?
If Joey Styles was on commentary for the PPV I'd have closure
O:50 "more like the sad man" I'm like who is that bald guy flipping off the rope? Justin Credibile? Perry Saturn? It was Sabu lmao 🤣 🤦🏼♂️
Welcome back Markyd123
I don't care what anyone says this was awesome, Nostalgia is awesome, legends are awesome. And I enjoyed this.
We don't care about what you're saying either.
I enjoyed it as well. The same goes for Hardcore Homecoming, but not for Extreme Reunion.
At least, the title says “half”. So, it wasn’t _fully_ bad.
Exactly what I was going for the guy gets it
Now tony khan should do the ecw reunion these days since its his dream. ❤😂
Speaking of extreme, since Edge broke his foot jumping off a steel cage over the weekend, a Ring of the Hawk video on his AEW run would be good, think he had 20 odd matches and did the job once to Christian I'm pretty sure
TNA in 2010 feels like a fever dream. I kinda enjoyed it in a way though 😂
Those guys were on the doorstep of the retirement home.
It's crazy how RVD and Stevie Richards are in such great shape now compared to everyone else kinda getting old and letting themselves go.
To be fair, a lot of those ex-ECW wrestlers on the 2010 Hardcore Justice show can still go. Dreamer's still wrestling and booking TNA, Little Guido is there in TNA forming a new incarnation of the FBI, Al Snow is in the best shape of his life and does the odd match here and there while running OVW, and most of all, 2 Cold Scorpio is killing it on the indies, perhaps the best version of him we've seen.
Of course there are others still wrestling like Bully Ray, Rhino, RVD and Stevie Richards.
Rock and Sock connection Ring of The Hawk, please.
That’s a good call added to list
I loved this
I literally had no idea this happened until just now, I bowed out of wrestling all together in 2010. I guess I just missed out on this
You didn’t miss too much. TNA was actually okay in 2011 and 2012. It turned into faction warfare again in 2013. In 2014 most people quit watching when Aj Styles left the company.
RKK Scott Steiner for ROH please
Yes sir
Raven in the 90s was cool. By this point he just looked like Herbert the pervert dressed up as a teenager to fit in with the kids.
11:46 In this camera angle. Tommy Dreamer look like Big Show 😆
I have the DVD copy of all of these TNA wrestling pay per views even though the ecw angle was in the past there were still be memories
Personally i enjoyed the Hardcore Justice PPV... "Use the Force, use the force..." and all the closure effect. Some good moments and memories.
Yup it was a pretty fun show I don’t hate it. They did a good job trying to make it feel different to tna
Had they stopped there, it would have been a great moment of closure. ECW limping into the sunset with its head held high.
@@tafua_a True... I don't mind everything from what they did afterwards, still I agree with what You say...
I just always wonder if you see any of the positives of seeing these great Stars again. Everything can't be Flair-Steamboat. Or in hardcore history, everything can't be an Explosion match from Japan. I'm pretty psyched to see Richards, Raven, RVD, Sabu, Sandman, Spike, etc. Look at the fun.... Remember Fun, in Wrestling?
An ECW show tribute does need Paul Heyman I think, he was the mastermind behind the brand and knew how to actually use the wrestlers he hired to be in the brand. The Sandman wasn't the best wrestler out there but he was over cause of Paul Heyman knowing his strengths and weaknesses also I think TNA honestly picked the wrong time to do it, and plenty of ECW guys had history in TNA. Father James Mitchell, like just imagine the pop he would've got if he came out leading Tajiri and Mikey Whipwreck to the ring and added Slash and Brian Lee. And if you needed a non ECW guy to join the ECW faction Abyss is right there, he wrestled a hardcore style and would've fit the faction perfectly. If you also wanted more hardcore wrestling, you need opponents willing to take bumps.
Why Rhino? Rhino: "I got kids!!"
Marky, what is your favourite Tna entrance themes?
I like No Limit, MVP, Lashley, Pacman Jones and of course fLying to Graceland!
They should have stopped ecw in one night stand 2006
glad to hear ur voice sounds better hawkk 🫡
HardCore Justice was great but it felt bad at the same time, many old guys coming there and it wasn't a good show if you ask me, specially when Tommy Dreamer girls saw him bleeding and were sent backstage terrified.
0:59 "over the hill"? In 2010 these guys would be what, in their early 40's? I mean, they put on some weight, sure, but they definitely could still go and if the match sucked it was probably because they didn't care enough.
Love you Marky
This angle felt confusing and out-of-character for anyone who witnessed the Raven/Stevie relationship on and offscreen breaking down post WCW. It was never addressed when or in what way they made up, or how Raven started respecting Stevie and seeing him as an equal. Reminds me of the c.2016 Team SD! vs. Raw, when Bray & Ambrose were suddenly besties with no heat or drama or UST between them.
The thing I remember the most of this shitty TNA time was Maffew from Botchamania clearly NOT watching Impact and claiming AJ Styles was injuring on purpose with the Styles' Clash Stevie Richards, despite he clearly said in a segment he wanted to do it on purpose (and Stevie Richards accepted it)
He (Maffew) went on claiming such false thing on Social Media for like 1/2 years, and a huge amount of people always told him to watch Impact and stop saying Bullshit and then he stopped LOL
What's the deal with failed invasions in 2010? There's this in TNA and WWE had the Nexus that year.
Was there a failed invasion in Ring of Honor, or what about the Mexican promotions AAA or CMLL?
That styles class wasn’t Aj thought Richard’s didn’t tuck the right way so it he’s own thought