THIS. This is the logical conclusion. Thank you. I've spent a week looking into this heavily and absorbing approaches and viewpoints from various RUclipsrs. I'd even started to build myself a system for "priming" accounts to influence the risk level assignment on new accounts before getting going. But actually, you're totally right. You're not going to beat them so simply exploit it fast and hard and then move on. Job done.
For me that's the best solution, except for the actual solution (ruclips.net/video/19uEkIdMRvc/видео.html) but I'm not sharing that publicly right now. If you know, you know!
Getting grubbed is only main problem for bettors that can make consistent profit, I've been looking for solution to this problem but I didn't find one yet, maybe it doesn't exist or its too complicated.
Use friends and family you trust. Just ensure they don’t actually live with you and have relevant ID and proof of address. I’ve been going through Manchester for years. Lol
@@bullythebooks This guys have software that can detect similar betting patterns and at the slightest doubt your account is blocked and you will need verification and that's it you will never be able to withdraw any money in the account so I don't see any need to open any account
I understand your rationale of "just take the profit and move on". But you'll run out of books eventually, and it still ticks me off that the bookies are allowed to do this. Most bettors are going to lose money... the books make plenty of money off of those folks. An ethical business model would be that the small fraction of winning bettors would constitute part of the "cost of doing business" for the bookmaker. It should either be regulated to prevent them from dropping people like you just for being good, or if not, there should be more pushback from bettors against the books that do this. Videos like this one... so that new potential customers learn up front that they will either lose or get banned! I'm thinking the sports betting industry wouldn't be so successful right now if that message got promoted more. (BTW, have you been banned by Pinnacle? I understand they are supposed to be more open to winners, but I am wondering if that's true or not...)
Don't necessarily have to run out of bookies to bet with, as touched on in these vids: ruclips.net/video/19uEkIdMRvc/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/pdfqFfKdvv4/видео.html. Bookies will never be ethical, best we can do is continue to beat them!
I can't comment on the policy of every bookmaker. Don't leave money in the accounts to be frozen in the first place. Make your money, withdraw in, repeat.
I haven’t even added money on my account yet & I’m already restricted.I tried to pay with Apple Pay but, it started tripping, & all I’ve been doing is watching RUclips tutorials.
I agree you should take what you can from a bookie & move on. However, there are deffinately books that you can get away with more of one thing than another, they all seem to have different things they tollerate longer than others. For example, coral & ladbrokes won't let you boost midweek hourse racing for more than a few days, whereas unibet are fairly tolerant. 365 accounts can go years on 2ups in some cases but your lucky to get a month going after EPs in the same way. It would be useful to have a resource where this is all laid out. I'm figuring it out as I go along but I'll have no accounts left by the time I've cracked it 😂
There are so many personal variables that I don't think one person's data would be particularly useful to all. For me it's not worth the hassle, I just rinse and repeat, since I have the solution to gubbing anyway!
I am gubbed not on sportsbook, but in gaming promotion as I seldom sit and play, except on a few low stake live casino bonus. Any chance of getting ungubbed? Play as normal?
How do you expect me to answer that question? If I only speed once a week will I get caught?! I have been clear in saying that ANY level of systematic betting activity will be flagged. Nothing more to add that isn't in this video and part 2: ruclips.net/video/19uEkIdMRvc/видео.html
I do say not to leave large sums in accounts. I cannot advise you on any specific bookies' policies. You will just have to request immediate payout and take it from there,
You are extremely likely to get restricted by most bookies with any successful betting system. The people who make big money long-term work their way around this issue. I explain how in my mini course touched on here: ruclips.net/video/pdfqFfKdvv4/видео.html
@@vkjaiswal9822 I can't answer that for you. Comply with their demands if you feel they are legitimate and worth doing to retrieve the funds. Otherwise, learn your lesson. That's all I can say.
@@smartmoneyguy If you are using mobile internet the vpn isn’t static. It changes every time you change website. A tip i have if you’re an iPhone user is go to settings > safari > clear history and website data. This is by fair the best method to disguise yourself. You could even do it every time you log out of your bookies account so they can never track you. Maybe add this to your next video. : )
Sure, I just take the best bets, wherever I can get 'em. Sometimes that's in multiple places. They will all cotton on eventually though. See Part 2 video for more.
I can't comment on every company policy, but generally they may refuse to pay out if you break terms. Should get your deposits back but even that can be troublesome. Most people withdraw regularly to avoid funds getting 'trapped'.
If your account gets locked so do the funds inside it and you will have a battle to access them. Smart thing to do is withdraw your winnings and deposit again when you want to make a bet.
@@smartmoneyguy thanks for you reply, really appreciate it, I also wanted to ask, I’ve put in around 200 and lost and won many bets over the last month but I now see myself on around 1100, without matched betting or doing arbitrary bets. Can they still ban me? Would they have any grounds to do so? Thanks
Depends what you get banned for. Bookies reserve the right to 'freeze' your account if they think something dodgy is going on. They can't take away your deposits but if you're worried about profits just withdraw them frequently.
Don't you completely solve the problem by just going to the track in person? The bets are anonymous, at least in the states. Or you can just pay people to place all the bets for you. How is the bookie going to stop you?
Sure, just go to every track, for every event, every day, in person 😄 Can work with someone else but it will still happen to them as well. Got another video on this coming soon.
@@smartmoneyguy I mean it's guaranteed money. It'd be worth setting up a network of people so bets can be placed at every track. And you could pool your money for bigger profits. Which means there are for sure groups doing this already.
@@eddiebrock8154 Sure, you can try doing all that and getting to the front of the queue before the odds change. I prefer the ease of doing it online and accept what comes with it. I'll have another vid soon, which I think you'll be very interested in.
Exchanges support matched betting to some extent - they want you to lay selections on their sites because they profit from commission whether you win or lose. Companies like Matchbook are even active on matched betting forums, creating markets for us and encouraging people to take part. It's not impossible to get pulled up if you're doing something really dodgy, but they're not like the bookies in this respect, so I wouldn't worry about it.
@@waritthornkaewmuang4608 bookies also don’t bear risk when you gamble against them unless you’re getting better value than SP. they sell off all bets.
I've not had funds withheld. Not something you really need to worry about if you just get gubbed / restricted. If you get permanently banned for something major they might freeze funds depending on the bookie, but again, I don't think it's something you need to worry about.
So basically I had my account restricted so can’t log in but I still have funds in my account but this has been going on for 5 weeks now but I’ve also been a loyal customer for like over 10 years so I’m confused please help
Just ride them until the wheels fall off. Start arbing after the gubbing and then shut down when they stake restrict you.
THIS. This is the logical conclusion. Thank you. I've spent a week looking into this heavily and absorbing approaches and viewpoints from various RUclipsrs. I'd even started to build myself a system for "priming" accounts to influence the risk level assignment on new accounts before getting going. But actually, you're totally right. You're not going to beat them so simply exploit it fast and hard and then move on. Job done.
For me that's the best solution, except for the actual solution (ruclips.net/video/19uEkIdMRvc/видео.html) but I'm not sharing that publicly right now. If you know, you know!
Well I had got my account restricted when I won my bet out of nowhere
Getting grubbed is only main problem for bettors that can make consistent profit, I've been looking for solution to this problem but I didn't find one yet, maybe it doesn't exist or its too complicated.
I'll be making another video on this soon. :)
Use friends and family you trust. Just ensure they don’t actually live with you and have relevant ID and proof of address. I’ve been going through Manchester for years. Lol
@@lordfarquard9902 what bank details do you use then ? do you use their bank details
They have restricted me to withdraw my funds .. what I can do know
@@vkjaiswal9822 which app
I can finally say I have been blocked by all bookmakers in my country
So what you can’t bet any more? Can’t you just open new accounts?
@@bullythebooks This guys have software that can detect similar betting patterns and at the slightest doubt your account is blocked and you will need verification and that's it you will never be able to withdraw any money in the account so I don't see any need to open any account
Account is restricted. . Can I get my withdrawal?
@@vkjaiswal9822 I don't think you'll ever get that, forget and move on.
I understand your rationale of "just take the profit and move on". But you'll run out of books eventually, and it still ticks me off that the bookies are allowed to do this. Most bettors are going to lose money... the books make plenty of money off of those folks. An ethical business model would be that the small fraction of winning bettors would constitute part of the "cost of doing business" for the bookmaker. It should either be regulated to prevent them from dropping people like you just for being good, or if not, there should be more pushback from bettors against the books that do this. Videos like this one... so that new potential customers learn up front that they will either lose or get banned! I'm thinking the sports betting industry wouldn't be so successful right now if that message got promoted more. (BTW, have you been banned by Pinnacle? I understand they are supposed to be more open to winners, but I am wondering if that's true or not...)
Don't necessarily have to run out of bookies to bet with, as touched on in these vids: ruclips.net/video/19uEkIdMRvc/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/pdfqFfKdvv4/видео.html. Bookies will never be ethical, best we can do is continue to beat them!
Thats the thing that there are hundreds of others apps, but i they ban me will i always get my money back?
I can't comment on the policy of every bookmaker. Don't leave money in the accounts to be frozen in the first place. Make your money, withdraw in, repeat.
Great video. You deserve more
Thanks for the kind words!
I haven’t even added money on my account yet & I’m already restricted.I tried to pay with Apple Pay but, it started tripping, & all I’ve been doing is watching RUclips tutorials.
I agree you should take what you can from a bookie & move on. However, there are deffinately books that you can get away with more of one thing than another, they all seem to have different things they tollerate longer than others. For example, coral & ladbrokes won't let you boost midweek hourse racing for more than a few days, whereas unibet are fairly tolerant. 365 accounts can go years on 2ups in some cases but your lucky to get a month going after EPs in the same way. It would be useful to have a resource where this is all laid out. I'm figuring it out as I go along but I'll have no accounts left by the time I've cracked it 😂
There are so many personal variables that I don't think one person's data would be particularly useful to all. For me it's not worth the hassle, I just rinse and repeat, since I have the solution to gubbing anyway!
@@smartmoneyguy I'm on the waiting list & excited to talk with you on the inside
5:27 did you make another video about this?
Yep, pretty easy to find: ruclips.net/video/19uEkIdMRvc/видео.html
I am gubbed not on sportsbook, but in gaming promotion as I seldom sit and play, except on a few low stake live casino bonus. Any chance of getting ungubbed? Play as normal?
The video says it all. Just move on.
But what if i use arbitrary betting onces a week only i will get banned?
How do you expect me to answer that question? If I only speed once a week will I get caught?! I have been clear in saying that ANY level of systematic betting activity will be flagged. Nothing more to add that isn't in this video and part 2: ruclips.net/video/19uEkIdMRvc/видео.html
I got my account restricted for first time with 1000s of dollsrs in it ... Are they gonna take all my money and kick me off ?
I do say not to leave large sums in accounts. I cannot advise you on any specific bookies' policies. You will just have to request immediate payout and take it from there,
What are the odds of getting restricted by every online bookmaker out there?
You are extremely likely to get restricted by most bookies with any successful betting system. The people who make big money long-term work their way around this issue. I explain how in my mini course touched on here: ruclips.net/video/pdfqFfKdvv4/видео.html
What are the chances of getting limited on every available online bookmaker?
Impossible to say but the whole point of this video (and part 2 ruclips.net/video/19uEkIdMRvc/видео.html) is to explore a solution.
@@smartmoneyguy Thanks. I only bet money lines on major US sports so should be ok for a while
My question here is, If my account gets banned can I make another account through a different app and continue my betting?
ruclips.net/video/19uEkIdMRvc/видео.html
They have restricted me to withdraw my funds.. what I can do now .. any help
Contact them and keep asking, should be able to get your deposits back at very least. Don't leave funds in bookies in future...withdraw regularly.
Okay they are asking for my salary slip and source of income
Yes I made a huge mistake .. by leaving my funds... will they release my funds
@@vkjaiswal9822 I can't answer that for you. Comply with their demands if you feel they are legitimate and worth doing to retrieve the funds. Otherwise, learn your lesson. That's all I can say.
How do they know what you do on exchanges?
Title is 'banned by bookies' not exchanges.
I know, but how will a bookie know I am laying a bet on the exchange? If I place back bet on bookie, how can they tell if I am match betting??
Any systematic betting is obvious.
Im going to ask how you were banned befeore the sighn up process, that puzzles me as there is only two possible reasons for that.
I suspect they didn't like my IP for some reason (was using mobile internet at the time).
@@smartmoneyguy I was suspecting site cookies, or a comman username.
@@smartmoneyguy If you are using mobile internet the vpn isn’t static. It changes every time you change website. A tip i have if you’re an iPhone user is go to settings > safari > clear history and website data.
This is by fair the best method to disguise yourself. You could even do it every time you log out of your bookies account so they can never track you. Maybe add this to your next video. : )
What if you're arbing on different sportsbooks?
Sure, I just take the best bets, wherever I can get 'em. Sometimes that's in multiple places. They will all cotton on eventually though. See Part 2 video for more.
Do they give you your money back after suspending/banning your account?
I can't comment on every company policy, but generally they may refuse to pay out if you break terms. Should get your deposits back but even that can be troublesome. Most people withdraw regularly to avoid funds getting 'trapped'.
Im an arb bettor not a matched better, but the imfo isstill cool and relervent.
If they ban your account can they also take the money that you put in and won?
If your account gets locked so do the funds inside it and you will have a battle to access them. Smart thing to do is withdraw your winnings and deposit again when you want to make a bet.
@@smartmoneyguy thanks for you reply, really appreciate it, I also wanted to ask, I’ve put in around 200 and lost and won many bets over the last month but I now see myself on around 1100, without matched betting or doing arbitrary bets. Can they still ban me? Would they have any grounds to do so? Thanks
@@robinyildirim7211 They can ban anyone for any reason. There is no reason to leave funds in your account other than laziness.
if you have 100dollar in your betting account and you get banned, can u still redeem ur price?
Depends what you get banned for. Bookies reserve the right to 'freeze' your account if they think something dodgy is going on. They can't take away your deposits but if you're worried about profits just withdraw them frequently.
@@smartmoneyguy oh ok th&nks
I got banned for requesting withdrawal of all my funds from Suprabets. They say i violated the rules which i don't know
Don't you completely solve the problem by just going to the track in person? The bets are anonymous, at least in the states. Or you can just pay people to place all the bets for you. How is the bookie going to stop you?
Sure, just go to every track, for every event, every day, in person 😄 Can work with someone else but it will still happen to them as well. Got another video on this coming soon.
@@smartmoneyguy I mean it's guaranteed money. It'd be worth setting up a network of people so bets can be placed at every track. And you could pool your money for bigger profits. Which means there are for sure groups doing this already.
@@smartmoneyguy Also, you can place bets on races going on at tracks other than the one you are currently at.
@@eddiebrock8154 Sure, you can try doing all that and getting to the front of the queue before the odds change. I prefer the ease of doing it online and accept what comes with it. I'll have another vid soon, which I think you'll be very interested in.
Yeah marathonbet just restricted my stakes.
The only thing you can do is come back in a different name
Debatable...I'll actually be making a video on that subject soon, so keep an eye out! :)
You need a different name, i.d., address, bank account, email, phone, and computer/device.
So a VPN doesn't help?
You still have to go through account verification so they'll realise it's you. Many bookies block VPN anyway.
@@smartmoneyguy yeah they blocked VPN I tried and doesn't really work.
How about the exchanges. Do they also ban ?
Exchanges support matched betting to some extent - they want you to lay selections on their sites because they profit from commission whether you win or lose. Companies like Matchbook are even active on matched betting forums, creating markets for us and encouraging people to take part. It's not impossible to get pulled up if you're doing something really dodgy, but they're not like the bookies in this respect, so I wouldn't worry about it.
Exchanges do not ban because they still earn commissions from you. You trade against someone else who bears risk, not the exchange.
@@waritthornkaewmuang4608 bookies also don’t bear risk when you gamble against them unless you’re getting better value than SP. they sell off all bets.
When you get banned, do they allow you withdraw your money from the Account?
I've not had funds withheld. Not something you really need to worry about if you just get gubbed / restricted. If you get permanently banned for something major they might freeze funds depending on the bookie, but again, I don't think it's something you need to worry about.
So basically I had my account restricted so can’t log in but I still have funds in my account but this has been going on for 5 weeks now but I’ve also been a loyal customer for like over 10 years so I’m confused please help
Bet 365 jus banned me
That's how you know you're beating them!
Can you make video where you actually win
I've demonstrated systems clearly in other videos.
@@smartmoneyguy It does show you the actual win
@@illuminatiaqi6130 ruclips.net/video/Yw7809AFwGU/видео.html
@@smartmoneyguy Do you play bet on basketball I make most of the money from it no matched needed
@@illuminatiaqi6130 We're getting away from the topic of the video, but I bet wherever I have an advantage. Thanks for watching, all the best!