you just pushed the limits of virtualisation and shown the real capabilities of PROXMOX Hypervizor and given us an image of what can be done using well optimized servers, thanks a lot
These videos are those i show my friends when they tell me that i am a magician of computers because i work in IT. I say: you have no idea what a real magician looks like and but videos like yours. Greetings from argentina
7:33 This is hands down the best Proxmox tutorial I've seen! The seamless integration of Windows gaming and Hackintosh on a single server is next-level. Thanks for sharing all the technical insights and tips-super helpful for the community!
this is crazy man! i need to see more videos of this whole system setup. even a video about the pc alone from the beginning till latest/recent upgrade. great work man!
Ton of info for such a short video. I really enjoyed looking at your setup. What interested me the most is how you set up ur vms on proxmox. I would like to see a more detailed video on how you set up your VMs and how you fine-tune it for high performance.
Bro, appreciate the video. I've been wanting to update my homelab and was looking for a server case like this. And it seems to have all the specs that I was looking for as well. SOOOO appreciate you showing this. Certainly plan on getting one of these.
Wait that PC case or set up actually has a 15 slot hot swappable drives. I’m honestly more surprised about this because it looks like a PC case and it works like a PC case. As in the fact that it might be very heavy, but it basically just sits there on your desk and has 2 CPU’s and GPU’s with 15 drive bays. The best part is it’s not that loud too. I’m jealous because I have five enterprise servers and they only hold a total of 20 3.5 hard drives combined each of them could hold 4 and they are very loud and use a lot of room and cables. They also have server/enterprise processor but I’m pretty sure they’re pretty old at this point and some of them have graphics cards but that’s like the really low powered ones to just have display. But I did get them for free so I’m not complaining.😅
You have a great setup too. Take a look at a lenovo tower server on ebay. Maybe you can sell yours in the future and grab 2 pre owned Lenovo (i hope no one that was saved from a flood) but you will find them with max of 32 disks… look for old ones. Mine is from 2014… www.lenovo.com/in/en/c/servers-storage/servers/towers/ Check the 3d tour.. www.lenovo.com/in/en/p/servers-storage/servers/towers/thinksystem-st650-v2/len21ts0001#tour If we can do all this in an old 2014 machine think what can be accomplished in more recent hardware:)
@@MadLabNexus Oh thankfully thank you for sharing the name of it. Personally I don’t care if it’s old I just want the storage space like trust me I have computers that built probably at least 15 years ago with a I5-2400 which was the new back then. now since it’s old and not up to the speed of today’s standard I use it to hold, hard drives because back then having half your case being hard drive bays was common and the thing. Also since it’s on eBay and like 10 years old now I bet I’ll get a great deal on it.😂👍 Also I do want to say this was my first time watching your continent it was awesome!👏
I’ve been using the Logitech MX Keys Mini and MX mouse for switching between three devices, helping to keep the workspace a bit less cluttered with KB’s and M’s. Thanks for the tour! Great setup!
Thanks for sharing. I prefer separated accessories because of latency for gaming so I passthru the usb ports and I can use separated keyboards and mice since I must separate the passthru ports for each vm. Im recording a full tutorial with the final release of sequoia. Will let you know. Please subscribe and activate the notifications
Well done on this very informative breakdown of your lab. I like the idea of running a Hackintosh inside Proxmox vm.. AND you better believe I screen grabbed some of your settings to mess with on my homelab.. ;) Nice!!
2 gpu passthrough vms is the way to go, I love my setup (NixOS workstation / Win 11 gaming) You can share a single mouse and keyboard with multiple vms using evdev, there is no noticeable latency with this when gaming. Persistent evdev improves upon this by keeping the mapping even if the device is physically disconnected so that when you reconnect it, everything is still working. I created a macro on my keyboard's G1 for pressing both control keys, so I just tap that to switch between the VMs. It's a surprisingly seamless experience.
Nice video, thanks for sharing! I have a Dell precision 7910 and with your video I think that I will challange my self to install GPUs dedicates to VMs! Synergy software seems to be good solution for KVM between different OSs, because use a dedicated mouse/keyboard for each device could be a little messy.
yeah nice - I run something similar with a 5950x 6900xt etc and TrueNas Scale but it's headless and I use sunshine and moonlight to stream over lan (plus a whole bunch of other stuff - nas / image backup / valheim server / pihole).
Parabéns pelo conteúdo man... muito legal. Também estou querendo fazer um setup assim. Aguardando com ansiedade o tutorial. Tenho algumas dúvidas sobre o hardware... mas vamos aguardar. Parabéns.
I am running a very similar setup on my main pc. 1080ti and rx470. Pass-through. The only issue I have been running into is the easy anti-cheat. I think your edits to the conf files might actually help me. That plus having a real mac address.
Nice Setup! I have been running mine for just over a year. I use ZeroTier + moonlight/sunshine to game stream on vacation. I am not one to make videos. More people need to see setups like this. It is proof as to why Linux running on bare metal is important. Especially in current times where Microsoft is proving to be untrustworthy on bare metal. When there is a problem with a windows VM I trash it and spin up a clone. Life is simple and good. :)
@@brian2590 thank you I will be releasing a net video of the installation process. People keeps asking so lets go. I think moonlight/sunshine are awesome!!! Nice setup too
Lenovo devices always have an amazing charm. So beautiful, this tower. Otherwise, good luck with DRM support and virtualization. It would cost less and work better getting two separate systems, a gaming pc and a hackintosh.
@@MacLimitRange I agree. But since this machine was a donation after flooding, I think that the results are worth sharing. Virtualization and DRS or anything around this topic will be the same if we were using any server Brand.
@@ivanocj veja o Short de ontem. Passthru esta sendo feito e com streaming pra qualquer dispositivo. Ajude a divulgar:) convide os amigos :) tutorial a caminho
wow that is a cool setup. I am trying to setup my game ( valo-rant ) in my proxmox but my old hardware does not support pcie bypass ( only vtx no vtd) so yeah I stopped there. thanks for sharing this one and good luck for future.
@@MadLabNexus hey thanks for the suggestion but yeah your doubt is correct the server has some old hardware salvaged from stuff. in short incompatible. at the time of building the server i never had much choice .
Oh there is a laptop there actually accessing the console ;) but you could put a VM to auto start with the server then you can access the console from the “vm within“ ;)
@@MadLabNexus Also I would like to say that your video is very useful for me because I have a simular Lenovo machine and I'm planing to make from it not gaming server but CAD programs server. My goal is to make Proxmax server with windows virtual machines and setup remote access from virtual machines on Proxmax to laptop by internet ...
Hey Gustavo, tyvm for sharing all the information about your project, it was of great help! I live here in Porto Alegre and would like to know if there is a place where I can salvage some server affected by the flood
Opa blz? Cara peguei o meu em sampa de um dealer. Mas ve ai algum canal ou alguem de informatica que trabalhe pra Dell ou Lenovo que possa ter umas maquininhas velhinhas ai sem garantia pra vc se divertir
@@Dmac4362 short details on the video description, but I recommend you search for subjects separately. Search how to passthru hardware using proxmox then how to virtualize windows linux mac
Thank you Im waiting for the latest 4tb drive arrive and will create a video for installing truenas and passing thru the disks. If you want let me know.
Great video! I was wondering if the power consumption of that server is higher than that of two PCs. Could you share the average power consumption? Also what server it and the specs, looking for something similar
Sure, I will record a full tutorial and explain about power but consider 1- this is an old machine 2- i use more power cus this is for gaming 3- my cpus are lower in cores so less power if you grab a lot of cores cpu it will grow 175w in regular situation (everything on) but no gaming 204w with all vms On no gpu demand 250 to 500w if you use one or both vms with gpu at maximum use in heavy games + containers and nas
How did you handle USB peripherals like independent keyboard and mouse to each VM? Did you install separate USB controller boards and assign them with PCI passthrough, or can you assign to each VM on a device or port basis?
Basically you can assign or passthru any device to a vm. So as long as you have 1 port you can use an usb hub and passthru the ports. Im preparing a tutorial that I will share soon ;)
Muito bom o vídeo, parabéns! Só gostaria de saber como você fez pra poder conectar o monitor na VM, você utilizou o NoVNC do navegador ou fez algum passthrough do monitor???
Obrigado pelas palavras, o monitor esta conectado na placa de video como um computador comum. O ponto aqui é voce entregar a placa de video diretamente para a vm fazendo o “passthru” do hardware, conforme explico no descritivo do video
Did not tried with xcp but if it should be possible. For vdi or streaming you will need an enterprise gpu and/or some software like moonlight and sunshine
Hello Sir: I know how you got multiple monitors working (via the Graphics card). But how did you setup multiple Keyboards and Mice? Also, how usable is the MacOS VM compared to, let's say a Mac Mini M2 (low end model)? Can this MacOS VM be used as a daily driver Mac system (in your opinion). My CPU setup is this -> 56 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 @ 2.40GHz (2 Sockets) and 256G RAM (ECC). Does each VM (that is using GPU pass-thru) need it own dedicated Graphics card? I noticed you have like 3 or 4 graphics cards on that motherboard.
Hi there thanks for the question 1- multiple monitors as you said it’s done because of multiple gpus. 2- multiple keyboards can be archived by passing thru usb devices or usb ports or the full usb pci controller It’s actually the easiest part. Just share one or two ports or the devices to each vm 3- about macos performance is really great for me. It performs like a macpro But sequoia have a problem with using apple ID. So if you want to replace a mac mini with a Virtual machine you will be stuck in sonoma. 4- For full video acceleration you need one gpu to each vm. There is no magic unless you have a enterprise gpu for sharing vgpu cores. Btw this does not support macos. Only full passthu. Im recording a tutorial, please subscribe and activate the notification so you can get it when it’s ready
Hi my friend. I left the most important intel instructions in video description… there is no secret for installing proxmox or windows if you use my instructions. For macos then you have to check the web for some hackintosh tutorial. Hope you understand
Greetings from Egypt Great work my brother I’m very curious how do you use multiple keyboard and mouse and how to pass i/o devices like usb and etc for each vm separately Thank you
@@Mikawi you can do this as a pci device or as USB port, you take the usb controller port and pass it thru as USB, or take the whole controller and pass it thru as pcie
A+ for idea and realization, C- for practical usage. It is cool in terms of possibilities but only when you actually need both macOS and a Windows PC. Older computers mean more power consumption and a LOT of noise. PCIe v3 will bottleneck newer components like a VGA card and NVMe storage...What about USB speeds? Maybe I am mistaken, but all of this looks more like a testing lab than a real person's everyday working configuration. P.S. I feel pain when I see somebody touching the screen with their fingers. 🙂
Thanks I totally agree with you. This machine is OLD rescued from rain and flooding so I had no use to it. Then I brought it to life and created a LAB. If you can do something like that with old machines then you certainly can do more with recent. The idea was not revolutionary… was just to save an old and abandoned wet hardware… About power consumption i must disagree. Using lenovo bios energy favoring performance and processors that are low in cores (low wattage) the average here is 230w for all 15 discs nas and containers. When I play I increase 150 to 200w because of the GPUs so… will be almost the same of a gamer pc + a NAS + newer server to run containers…
Opa foi como falei nos comentários estou gravando um tutorial completo. Vai ser grande mas vai ser show. Se inscreva e ative a notificação pra nao perder quando sair
moonlight + sunshine and nvidia GPUs sends you all a big hello (especially to those who are using dual-socket processor systems - I had many of those myself, once upon a time - but - never again) only regular ATX one socket system with regular RAM and very nice RTX card + moonlight + sunshine
@@noname-uf4je Helo there hehehe ohhhh that is for streaming… hehehe really nice but in my case I was trying to give some use for an old flooded machine. i also run containers, nas, and other stuff besides gaming:) i like moonlight and sunshine
Hi I can help you with the passthru and Vm flags and proxmox configuration side. Send me an email. About installation of macOS outside apple hardware I cannot help!… In my case it was for lab testing ONLY for the BETA version of macOS, but you can do a google search and there are thousands of guides. It’s the same process for baremetal, just use it in a VM inside proxmox :) take care
It will be much slower… even if you disable hyperthread. 2699 is 2.2 ghz and 2643 have less cores but runs on 3.4ghz so for this kind of use it is better. If i had lots of vms and containers and no gaming, then it will be awesome cpu
I would like to ask you another question is there any thing that I can do to make a a software kvm to pass throw the same mouse and keyboard to two different vms on separate gpu’s
No. You can set a device internal to the vm like xhci or tablet pointer, but it will not work the way you want… I will so some testing with passthru. For console ai know this works but you will not pass thru usb in that case
I don't cheat at all, but for running games like riot that needs vanguard (in any hypotheses I will ever run vanguard on my machine... I don't trust boot "things" loaders). I just run them o macOS. for other games I use the method of installing the bare metal windows then later add the disk to the VM. I responded a comment here about this process. so you also have to pass some args to the VM so don't let windows know it's virtual.
One monitor per VM connected displayport for each gpu. Windows with rtx4070 Mac with rx6600 Sound over display port The console is connected in the same monitor windows is, so I just switch entrance. 2 usb keyboard passing through the USB port and not the device, to each vm, so I pass 2 usb ports so I can connect a pendrive or external hdd + usb keyboard / mouse wireless I have a thunderbolt dock that sometimes I use as usbc but since this machine does not have thunderbolt i almost don’t use it
I have been trying to do something similar but stuck with gpu pass-through on hackintosh. Can you make a dedicated video on hackintosh and the gpu pass-through?
@@agent_447 As I said hackintosh is a “sensitive” subject. This is “dark area” since there is no formal position from apple about using macos outside mac hardware, but since sequoia is beta, so it’s for testing. There are lots of hackintosh guides all around google but what I can tell you is that you need at least some things to run sequoia beta 1- the correct proxmox efi as I created mine 2- AMD compatible GPU is yours like mine (6600) then you just pass it and enable boot args as below 3- add “agdpmode=pikera” to your boot args 4- passthru only the GPU and not the hdmi audio at first so you should be fine to see the accelerated video ;)
This one is an old TD350. Here in the comments I shared some links for newer models that will be better for you since they’re newer. This one is an old flooded machine I saved, so I tried to use it the best I can… but if I would start something new… I would go to a more recent model
Most of them run without problem if you do not let your windows be identified as VM. Riot games like LoL you must run within a Macos… it would run ok if you install vanguard and let this “nasty boot loader” control your windows, but since I will never agree with this kind of “boot” software taking control of any operating system I use, for those games I simply play on linux or macos (if supports) or I don’t play at all and move to another title
First things first, how does the windows vm deal with vanguard or similar anticheats that dislike VMs? and then assuming everything is fine: I think the main upgrade I'd do to a setup like this is use something like synergy to minimize the input devices and share them across all booted systems. Then finally use a HDMI switcher per monitor that's set up for these VM systems, so that I can leverage the screen real estate for my main host, but swap what is displayed when the VMs are booted.
Vanguard does not run on windows vm. You cannot cheat this. Its a Boot driver. i NEVER IN MY LIFE would run something in my machine like vanguard. This is too much invasive for me. About the upgrades thanks for the suggestions ;)
Never used pastebin thanks for the tip. This is an Old td350 I mentioned in other comments about this model and other newer servers from Lenovo. I Will try pastebin for the next video. Im going to update the server from scratch
You can check in the comments the model. Old td350 I am recording a tutorial please subscribe and get the notifications so you can check all. I will explain from scratch
So could you just build one beefy PC and split the resources so that your family members just need a monitor and keyboard and everyone can run their own virtualized windows and/or ios installations at the same time instead of buying 4 or 5 sets of everything for each family member to have their own pc?
The jank of those GPUs just poking through the side of the case worries me. We had a PC like that way, way back in the 90s and in the end it shorted out and everything broke.
@@samwalker7567 unfortunate that is the only way to use newer gpus in this old 2014 drowned machine. It’s good in my case because my lab has access restricted:)
@@MadLabNexus Show muito obrigado, atualmente estou em um jornada parecida com um Thinkstation P520 mas o Server mesmo acaba sendo uma opção melhor no futuro
@@MadLabNexus hey, thanks for the prompt reply. Since you mentioned working at lenovo, what would you recommend instead? I was thinking dual gen1 or gen2 xeon scalable processors initially but always hit a roadblock with HP/Dell due to the loud fans..
@@gumz4183 Lenovo servers came from “IBM design” so best of the best… for low fan noise you might try to go for an enterprise Lenovo pre owned tower server, if you need a budget setup, you can go with lower models but if you have a bit more money go for an v1 Lenovo tower. Check if it has the same structure as mine, Dell and HPE are awesome machines but cooling system of them are not best optimized so they have 1 big fan… this is noisy, but if you grab a Lenovo to entrance server, with less fans you will hear noise too. This one is the evolution farrrr better than mine for using gen 1 or gen2 lenovopress.lenovo.com/lp1055-thinksystem-st550-server
@@MadLabNexus Thank you for the recommendation, I see stock of st550 available with a local enterprise server refurbisher. I will investigate further before I make the purchase and also check if a noctua fan replacement can be done to cut some extra dB(s).
hey bro i have a problem with hp dl360 g10 i install WS2022 and sql but when i start the vm the server starts going crazy with the fans randomly increase the speed for nothing, you now what is the problem?
In general you have more fan while server cpu is used and gets hot. So you demand cpu starting the vm and it forces the cpu and fans get in action. This is a normal behavior. You can try to change bios settings cooling profile for hpe
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hello, can i use my igpu from 7600x for mac os, and rtx 4060 for windows gaming?
Hello you need to check in opencore gpu guide, I cannot tell you if specifically this igpu will work, but I can say that the principle of using any hardware within a vm is the same and your igpu “should” be “passthruable” the main issue is to check if macos will see it. dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Install-Guide/
@@MadLabNexus Hi i have a question now, i made a proxmox server because of your video, thank you! but now i have trouble with hardware acceleration on MacOS VM, I see Display 7MB in my about this mac next to graphics. i used the recommended settings from your description. i have a nvidia 1080 ti, does the card need to be amd radeon for mac? Thank you!
there is a Guide for hackintosh in the web regarding the GPUs. Since you will be passing thru the situation is the same if you were using baremetal instead of virtual machine. There are some cards that work out of the box… nvidia is a problem unfortunately… check the guide dortania.github.io/GPU-Buyers-Guide/
@@MadLabNexus would have loved to see if it's feasible to play and/or even play competitively. Could be a very good use case for a hypervisor as a desktop with the amount of power you can cramp into today's mini or full sized towers. Having something like your main debian/proxmox with various VMS at no perceivable performance loss for a decent price would be amazing especially with Microsoft's recall and other dystopian crap. Thanks anyway
For doing this, you need an enterprise GPU card and also paying for Nvidia grid license. so the price of this will be too expensive. it’s better use baremetal PCs. but using consumer GPU like my set up you can pass through one GPU to each virtual machine and it will work smooth. Problem is for each vm one gpu will be required
In this case that’s what I am doing. One GPU for windows (slim because a big width gpu will not fit the spaces) and other for Mac. Two gpus and there you go
Usb Bluetooth passed thru for windows and batocera so I can use my ps5 control to play emulators and other pc games. For macOS it’s possible but I did not configured yet. Im recording a tutorial and will try this. Subscribe and get the notification when i finish ;)
Tutorial is coming check it out ruclips.net/user/shortsEBHMj8fUo6w?si=0gyrXqP1eyBMiSZC
you just pushed the limits of virtualisation and shown the real capabilities of PROXMOX Hypervizor and given us an image of what can be done using well optimized servers, thanks a
lot
Thank you :)
These videos are those i show my friends when they tell me that i am a magician of computers because i work in IT.
I say: you have no idea what a real magician looks like and but videos like yours.
Greetings from argentina
Saludos mi amigo. Un abrazo para el pueblo porteño!
7:33 This is hands down the best Proxmox tutorial I've seen! The seamless integration of Windows gaming and Hackintosh on a single server is next-level. Thanks for sharing all the technical insights and tips-super helpful for the community!
Glad you liked it!
I will be releasing a full tutorial VIDEO soon. Let me know what you want me to record!!!
po man, muito foda seu setup. to tentando fazer algo parecido, agradeço pelo vídeo. Se puder fazer o tutorial seria top!
To gravando…. Sai logo
What is the model number of those perc hba cards
its the cheapest one h310 but you need to upload the IT firmware to be able to use it with truenas
Super cool project man! Maybe dividing the video in 3 sections. Hardware set up, Proxmox set up, then windows and macOS set up:)
Keep it up!🏆
this is crazy man! i need to see more videos of this whole system setup. even a video about the pc alone from the beginning till latest/recent upgrade. great work man!
Thank you, what exactly is your curiosity here? ;)
Ton of info for such a short video. I really enjoyed looking at your setup. What interested me the most is how you set up ur vms on proxmox.
I would like to see a more detailed video on how you set up your VMs and how you fine-tune it for high performance.
@@greenshah the main point are in the video description:) check there for any insight and thanks for your words:)
this is a really cool setup, its nice you mannaged to save the server from the rain and managed to find a use for it!
Thank you :)
Bro, appreciate the video. I've been wanting to update my homelab and was looking for a server case like this. And it seems to have all the specs that I was looking for as well. SOOOO appreciate you showing this. Certainly plan on getting one of these.
Check for new Lenovo tower servers. Mine is an old one there are suggestions in the comments from other guys here
Wait that PC case or set up actually has a 15 slot hot swappable drives. I’m honestly more surprised about this because it looks like a PC case and it works like a PC case. As in the fact that it might be very heavy, but it basically just sits there on your desk and has 2 CPU’s and GPU’s with 15 drive bays. The best part is it’s not that loud too. I’m jealous because I have five enterprise servers and they only hold a total of 20 3.5 hard drives combined each of them could hold 4 and they are very loud and use a lot of room and cables. They also have server/enterprise processor but I’m pretty sure they’re pretty old at this point and some of them have graphics cards but that’s like the really low powered ones to just have display. But I did get them for free so I’m not complaining.😅
You have a great setup too.
Take a look at a lenovo tower server on ebay. Maybe you can sell yours in the future and grab 2 pre owned Lenovo (i hope no one that was saved from a flood) but you will find them with max of 32 disks… look for old ones. Mine is from 2014…
www.lenovo.com/in/en/c/servers-storage/servers/towers/
Check the 3d tour..
www.lenovo.com/in/en/p/servers-storage/servers/towers/thinksystem-st650-v2/len21ts0001#tour
If we can do all this in an old 2014 machine think what can be accomplished in more recent hardware:)
@@MadLabNexus Oh thankfully thank you for sharing the name of it. Personally I don’t care if it’s old I just want the storage space like trust me I have computers that built probably at least 15 years ago with a I5-2400 which was the new back then. now since it’s old and not up to the speed of today’s standard I use it to hold, hard drives because back then having half your case being hard drive bays was common and the thing. Also since it’s on eBay and like 10 years old now I bet I’ll get a great deal on it.😂👍
Also I do want to say this was my first time watching your continent it was awesome!👏
Thank you again for the words. Hope you find a good deal :)
Altough this looks like a PC case is actually a server case.
@@MadLabNexus 🙏
We need a configuration video tutorial for proxmox … and passing the gpu etc for the ultimate gaming experience . 🙏🏽 great video
@@manuelk.396 what you have in mind?
@@MadLabNexus a tutorial video of a proxmox installation & configuration like yours with passthrough.
I’ve been using the Logitech MX Keys Mini and MX mouse for switching between three devices, helping to keep the workspace a bit less cluttered with KB’s and M’s. Thanks for the tour! Great setup!
Thanks for sharing. I prefer separated accessories because of latency for gaming so I passthru the usb ports and I can use separated keyboards and mice since I must separate the passthru ports for each vm. Im recording a full tutorial with the final release of sequoia. Will let you know. Please subscribe and activate the notifications
Well done on this very informative breakdown of your lab. I like the idea of running a Hackintosh inside Proxmox vm.. AND you better believe I screen grabbed some of your settings to mess with on my homelab.. ;) Nice!!
Thank you I will release a tutorial. Its taking more than I expect to record… but will be cool
2 gpu passthrough vms is the way to go, I love my setup (NixOS workstation / Win 11 gaming)
You can share a single mouse and keyboard with multiple vms using evdev, there is no noticeable latency with this when gaming. Persistent evdev improves upon this by keeping the mapping even if the device is physically disconnected so that when you reconnect it, everything is still working. I created a macro on my keyboard's G1 for pressing both control keys, so I just tap that to switch between the VMs.
It's a surprisingly seamless experience.
There is an awesome solution too.
Thank you I guess we all can't wait!
I thank you;)
Nice video, thanks for sharing! I have a Dell precision 7910 and with your video I think that I will challange my self to install GPUs dedicates to VMs!
Synergy software seems to be good solution for KVM between different OSs, because use a dedicated mouse/keyboard for each device could be a little messy.
You can do it :)
Nice, planning todo something similar soon, when my new hardware arrives 😊
Thank you :)
yeah nice - I run something similar with a 5950x 6900xt etc and TrueNas Scale but it's headless and I use sunshine and moonlight to stream over lan (plus a whole bunch of other stuff - nas / image backup / valheim server / pihole).
Awesome!
Great job, thanks for video!!!
Thank you :)
Very valuable information and great setup!!
@@Marcelo_Parada thanks for the words my friend!
Parabéns pelo conteúdo man... muito legal. Também estou querendo fazer um setup assim. Aguardando com ansiedade o tutorial. Tenho algumas dúvidas sobre o hardware... mas vamos aguardar. Parabéns.
Obrigado :)
I am running a very similar setup on my main pc. 1080ti and rx470. Pass-through. The only issue I have been running into is the easy anti-cheat. I think your edits to the conf files might actually help me. That plus having a real mac address.
Oh yeah the real MAC is a must go for avoiding anti cheat
Nice Setup! I have been running mine for just over a year. I use ZeroTier + moonlight/sunshine to game stream on vacation. I am not one to make videos. More people need to see setups like this. It is proof as to why Linux running on bare metal is important. Especially in current times where Microsoft is proving to be untrustworthy on bare metal. When there is a problem with a windows VM I trash it and spin up a clone. Life is simple and good. :)
@@brian2590 thank you I will be releasing a net video of the installation process. People keeps asking so lets go. I think moonlight/sunshine are awesome!!! Nice setup too
Lenovo devices always have an amazing charm. So beautiful, this tower. Otherwise, good luck with DRM support and virtualization. It would cost less and work better getting two separate systems, a gaming pc and a hackintosh.
@@MacLimitRange I agree. But since this machine was a donation after flooding, I think that the results are worth sharing. Virtualization and DRS or anything around this topic will be the same if we were using any server Brand.
Perfect Video Iike Proxmox too and start gaming with RX 560
I think it will run smoothly. Just certify you have a high ghz speed cpus or if you use 2.4 or lower frequency cpu, turn off hyperthread
Se tem Thinkpad e Thinkstation, tem meu like. E é claro, me inscrevi!
Que honra!
@@MadLabNexus ué mudou o nome do canal? Estou ansioso para novos conteúdos, se conseguir fazer passthrough de GPU nisso ai seria interessante.
@@ivanocj veja o Short de ontem. Passthru esta sendo feito e com streaming pra qualquer dispositivo. Ajude a divulgar:) convide os amigos :) tutorial a caminho
wow that is a cool setup.
I am trying to setup my game ( valo-rant ) in my proxmox but my old hardware does not support pcie bypass ( only vtx no vtd) so yeah I stopped there.
thanks for sharing this one and good luck for future.
@@iuhere unfortunately that’s a blocker. Maybe you can try a bios update… or the cpu is too old?
@@MadLabNexus hey thanks for the suggestion but yeah your doubt is correct the server has some old hardware salvaged from stuff. in short incompatible. at the time of building the server i never had much choice .
Im here because the title 😁😁. Never me see proxmox can use for gaming and multitask OS too.
Virtualization works ;)
Hey my friend, this is awesome! I was wondering, I might have missed something, how did you get your proxmox console to appear on a different screen?
Oh there is a laptop there actually accessing the console ;) but you could put a VM to auto start with the server then you can access the console from the “vm within“ ;)
Very cool video
Thank you !
I thank you :)
@@MadLabNexus Also I would like to say that your video is very useful for me because I have a simular Lenovo machine and I'm planing to make from it not gaming server but CAD programs server. My goal is to make Proxmax server with windows virtual machines and setup remote access from virtual machines on Proxmax to laptop by internet ...
GPU passthrough setup! because I am having problems setting up my own passthrough
I would really appreciate seeing how you set up your Proxmox.
I will be recording a full tutorial video next days😊
Ficou muito bom mano! Genial
Muito obrigado ✌
Hey Gustavo, tyvm for sharing all the information about your project, it was of great help! I live here in Porto Alegre and would like to know if there is a place where I can salvage some server affected by the flood
Opa blz? Cara peguei o meu em sampa de um dealer. Mas ve ai algum canal ou alguem de informatica que trabalhe pra Dell ou Lenovo que possa ter umas maquininhas velhinhas ai sem garantia pra vc se divertir
muito bom, amigo, setup admirável
Obrigado 👍
wow insane setup !
@@00x_9.3 Thank you
Very cool setup. I would love to learn more about this.
@@Dmac4362 short details on the video description, but I recommend you search for subjects separately. Search how to passthru hardware using proxmox then how to virtualize windows linux mac
great video! I hope to see more
Thank you Im waiting for the latest 4tb drive arrive and will create a video for installing truenas and passing thru the disks. If you want let me know.
Great video! I was wondering if the power consumption of that server is higher than that of two PCs. Could you share the average power consumption? Also what server it and the specs, looking for something similar
Sure, I will record a full tutorial and explain about power but consider
1- this is an old machine
2- i use more power cus this is for gaming
3- my cpus are lower in cores so less power if you grab a lot of cores cpu it will grow
175w in regular situation (everything on) but no gaming
204w with all vms On no gpu demand
250 to 500w if you use one or both vms with gpu at maximum use in heavy games + containers and nas
Super cool project! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
Hey Gustavo! Nice video! Did you managed to play with Virtual Machine anticheat detection like BattleEye?
I did not tested this specific, tell me a game that uses and I can test
@@MadLabNexus Fortnite.
On windows or mac?
@@MadLabNexus On windows.
que setup massa mano! Parabéns!!
Obrigado
You are awesome man,,thanks for this video so good,,How you get sound/audio with virtual machine?
I use a usb-c dock but you can passthru usb audio device or bluetooth device ;) and you could “more complex” use hdmi /display port digital audio
Amazing ! Great Job !
I'm interesting what can be the usage and the performance for gaming and working at distance from this setup ?
@@clementfeytout5668 i will add a tutorial video including streaming:) soon
@@MadLabNexus thanks you men !
Super legal sua estação de trabalho/diversão. 👑
Muito obrigado 🤗
I like this cabinet, very cool, good job 😄
Thanks! 😊
How did you handle USB peripherals like independent keyboard and mouse to each VM? Did you install separate USB controller boards and assign them with PCI passthrough, or can you assign to each VM on a device or port basis?
Basically you can assign or passthru any device to a vm. So as long as you have 1 port you can use an usb hub and passthru the ports. Im preparing a tutorial that I will share soon ;)
@@MadLabNexus thanks. This idea is genius. I’ve used proxmox a ton for remote servers, never thought of something like this.
It is great to hear that! Please subscribe and get notified when the full tutorial is ready :)😊
Muito bom o vídeo, parabéns!
Só gostaria de saber como você fez pra poder conectar o monitor na VM, você utilizou o NoVNC do navegador ou fez algum passthrough do monitor???
Obrigado pelas palavras, o monitor esta conectado na placa de video como um computador comum. O ponto aqui é voce entregar a placa de video diretamente para a vm fazendo o “passthru” do hardware, conforme explico no descritivo do video
Only you could make this happen... 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks my friend
It’s very cool !!!
Can it work same way with xcp-ng? And second question, can it work with some kind of think client or regular laptop with LAN ?
Did not tried with xcp but if it should be possible. For vdi or streaming you will need an enterprise gpu and/or some software like moonlight and sunshine
Hello Sir: I know how you got multiple monitors working (via the Graphics card). But how did you setup multiple Keyboards and Mice? Also, how usable is the MacOS VM compared to, let's say a Mac Mini M2 (low end model)? Can this MacOS VM be used as a daily driver Mac system (in your opinion). My CPU setup is this -> 56 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 @ 2.40GHz (2 Sockets) and 256G RAM (ECC). Does each VM (that is using GPU pass-thru) need it own dedicated Graphics card? I noticed you have like 3 or 4 graphics cards on that motherboard.
Hi there thanks for the question
1- multiple monitors as you said it’s done because of multiple gpus.
2- multiple keyboards can be archived by passing thru usb devices or usb ports or the full usb pci controller
It’s actually the easiest part. Just share one or two ports or the devices to each vm
3- about macos performance is really great for me. It performs like a macpro But sequoia have a problem with using apple ID. So if you want to replace a mac mini with a Virtual machine you will be stuck in sonoma.
4- For full video acceleration you need one gpu to each vm. There is no magic unless you have a enterprise gpu for sharing vgpu cores. Btw this does not support macos. Only full passthu.
Im recording a tutorial, please subscribe and activate the notification so you can get it when it’s ready
@@MadLabNexus: Thank you for the fast reply, SIr. I just subscribed.
this thing is my dream
Tutorial coming on the next days
Excellent video! I'm wondering if you can please give us a Tutorial on Proxmox install using Amd processor and Intel
Hi my friend. I left the most important intel instructions in video description… there is no secret for installing proxmox or windows if you use my instructions. For macos then you have to check the web for some hackintosh tutorial. Hope you understand
Parabéns pelo excelente inglês e pela magia que vc fez com esse PC e as Virtualizações
😊
wow i dont understand but still very impressive
😅
Spinning up a similar setup on my server right this instant.
@@intelcorei9179 :)
Greetings from Egypt
Great work my brother
I’m very curious how do you use multiple keyboard and mouse and how to pass i/o devices like usb and etc for each vm separately
Thank you
@@Mikawi you can do this as a pci device or as USB port, you take the usb controller port and pass it thru as USB, or take the whole controller and pass it thru as pcie
@@Mikawi Im recording a full tutorial:) soon I will post a complete video with chapter. Help us to spread the news:)
Thanks man
A+ for idea and realization, C- for practical usage. It is cool in terms of possibilities but only when you actually need both macOS and a Windows PC. Older computers mean more power consumption and a LOT of noise. PCIe v3 will bottleneck newer components like a VGA card and NVMe storage...What about USB speeds? Maybe I am mistaken, but all of this looks more like a testing lab than a real person's everyday working configuration.
P.S. I feel pain when I see somebody touching the screen with their fingers. 🙂
Thanks I totally agree with you. This machine is OLD rescued from rain and flooding so I had no use to it. Then I brought it to life and created a LAB.
If you can do something like that with old machines then you certainly can do more with recent. The idea was not revolutionary… was just to save an old and abandoned wet hardware…
About power consumption i must disagree. Using lenovo bios energy favoring performance and processors that are low in cores (low wattage) the average here is 230w for all 15 discs nas and containers. When I play I increase 150 to 200w because of the GPUs so… will be almost the same of a gamer pc + a NAS + newer server to run containers…
Podia mostrar e explicar o seu setup completo como que vc fez, pois ficou incrivel seu setup
Opa foi como falei nos comentários estou gravando um tutorial completo. Vai ser grande mas vai ser show. Se inscreva e ative a notificação pra nao perder quando sair
Great video, How far is that from remote gaming?
For this you should check moonlight and sunshine solutions
I think you need to do a in home streaming vm and drop all the monitors.
Maybe I will do this for the console old games emulated :)
moonlight + sunshine and nvidia GPUs sends you all a big hello (especially to those who are using dual-socket processor systems - I had many of those myself, once upon a time - but - never again)
only regular ATX one socket system with regular RAM and very nice RTX card + moonlight + sunshine
@@noname-uf4je Helo there hehehe ohhhh that is for streaming… hehehe really nice but in my case I was trying to give some use for an old flooded machine. i also run containers, nas, and other stuff besides gaming:) i like moonlight and sunshine
Great showcase here, kindly share the process to install hackingtosh Sequoia and gpu passthrough
Hi I can help you with the passthru and Vm flags and proxmox configuration side. Send me an email.
About installation of macOS outside apple hardware I cannot help!…
In my case it was for lab testing ONLY for the BETA version of macOS, but you can do a google search and there are thousands of guides. It’s the same process for baremetal, just use it in a VM inside proxmox :) take care
@@MadLabNexus I treid proxmox one time but no luck. Kindly share your email.
@@takselagustavo_carneiro@outlook.com
@@MadLabNexus thanks you
@@MadLabNexus sent you the mail
Awesome machine 😁
I can`t imagine how it will run with 2x e5 2699v4 🤔
It will be much slower… even if you disable hyperthread. 2699 is 2.2 ghz and 2643 have less cores but runs on 3.4ghz so for this kind of use it is better.
If i had lots of vms and containers and no gaming, then it will be awesome cpu
I would like to ask you another question is there any thing that I can do to make a a software kvm to pass throw the same mouse and keyboard to two different vms on separate gpu’s
No. You can set a device internal to the vm like xhci or tablet pointer, but it will not work the way you want… I will so some testing with passthru. For console ai know this works but you will not pass thru usb in that case
Great video, how did you deal with anti-cheat in games?
I don't cheat at all, but for running games like riot that needs vanguard (in any hypotheses I will ever run vanguard on my machine... I don't trust boot "things" loaders). I just run them o macOS. for other games I use the method of installing the bare metal windows then later add the disk to the VM. I responded a comment here about this process. so you also have to pass some args to the VM so don't let windows know it's virtual.
How are you handling peripherals? Dedicated per device? shared through software?
One monitor per VM connected displayport for each gpu.
Windows with rtx4070
Mac with rx6600
Sound over display port
The console is connected in the same monitor windows is, so I just switch entrance.
2 usb keyboard passing through the USB port and not the device, to each vm, so I pass 2 usb ports so I can connect a pendrive or external hdd + usb keyboard / mouse wireless
I have a thunderbolt dock that sometimes I use as usbc but since this machine does not have thunderbolt i almost don’t use it
I have been trying to do something similar but stuck with gpu pass-through on hackintosh. Can you make a dedicated video on hackintosh and the gpu pass-through?
@@agent_447 As I said hackintosh is a “sensitive” subject. This is “dark area” since there is no formal position from apple about using macos outside mac hardware, but since sequoia is beta, so it’s for testing. There are lots of hackintosh guides all around google but what I can tell you is that you need at least some things to run sequoia beta
1- the correct proxmox efi as I created mine
2- AMD compatible GPU is yours like mine (6600) then you just pass it and enable boot args as below
3- add “agdpmode=pikera” to your boot args
4- passthru only the GPU and not the hdmi audio at first so you should be fine to see the accelerated video ;)
What model of thinkserver is that your using? I'd like to see if I can find one for myself on ebay or something. Thank you.
This one is an old TD350. Here in the comments I shared some links for newer models that will be better for you since they’re newer. This one is an old flooded machine I saved, so I tried to use it the best I can… but if I would start something new… I would go to a more recent model
@@MadLabNexus Not looking for newer, but more about the case it comes with and the features it has, Thank you again :)
Question for gaming on a VM do you have issues with games that have anti cheat ? I heard it can cause issues, does steam run fine?
Most of them run without problem if you do not let your windows be identified as VM.
Riot games like LoL you must run within a Macos… it would run ok if you install vanguard and let this “nasty boot loader” control your windows, but since I will never agree with this kind of “boot” software taking control of any operating system I use, for those games I simply play on linux or macos (if supports) or I don’t play at all and move to another title
So wicked!
Thanks 😊
wut the hell this was awesome man , I planning to do that with 2 rtx 3050 any advice for any type of cpu that I should use ?
Thank you. Go for 8 or 16 cores with more clock possible. i like mine e5-2643 but its too old. Remember I just saved this machine after flooding:)
Woah, this beast looks so cool, what ThinkServer model is that ?
This is an old 2014 td350. In the comments here I shared this and newer models if anybody wants to search ebay
First things first, how does the windows vm deal with vanguard or similar anticheats that dislike VMs?
and then assuming everything is fine:
I think the main upgrade I'd do to a setup like this is use something like synergy to minimize the input devices and share them across all booted systems.
Then finally use a HDMI switcher per monitor that's set up for these VM systems, so that I can leverage the screen real estate for my main host, but swap what is displayed when the VMs are booted.
Vanguard does not run on windows vm. You cannot cheat this. Its a Boot driver. i NEVER IN MY LIFE would run something in my machine like vanguard. This is too much invasive for me.
About the upgrades thanks for the suggestions ;)
This video is very interesting, I'm proud that you're Brazilian, um salve do seu brother de Porto alegre -RS
Salve!!!!! Obg pelas palavras
you should boot like 3 or 4 os and have paste and cut between desktops to speed up dev - quite possible
Yeah this can work too
What is this case? Honestly interested in the 15 drive bays thing
I shared in other comments the details but this is an old Td350 lenovo server. You can get new st650 more recent machine
what system of lenovo was this ?
and you could have posted the command on pastebin and just linked that .
Never used pastebin thanks for the tip. This is an Old td350 I mentioned in other comments about this model and other newer servers from Lenovo. I Will try pastebin for the next video. Im going to update the server from scratch
Nice work please keep it comming, can you make a tutorial how to set this up thx a million !\
Yes I will :)
this is great!
Thank you
What kind of Lenovo server is it? You can tell me the hardware parts in the description
You can check in the comments the model. Old td350
I am recording a tutorial please subscribe and get the notifications so you can check all. I will explain from scratch
How does screen work on gaming side? I mean do you have regular hdmi plugged to gpu directly?
Yes display port connected for each vm just like the vm was a regular physical machine. This was the first requirement for me
WOW just WOW... 😮
Thanks
So could you just build one beefy PC and split the resources so that your family members just need a monitor and keyboard and everyone can run their own virtualized windows and/or ios installations at the same time instead of buying 4 or 5 sets of everything for each family member to have their own pc?
You got it :) In a practical way yes you can…. :) this is pretty good thing for an old recovered server like this one :)
Stumbled upon your video randomly, how did you get sequoia to work? I tried using opencore and it has never worked for me :(
Im working on a tutorial and will post here :) it’s complicated but there are some ways.
@@MadLabNexus awesome +sub :)
I am building a proxmox HV right now, could only get two 4 TB drives so we shall see how it goes
Will be nice in mirror config
@@MadLabNexus Got it working yo!
Awesome Im creating the tutorial with 15 disks passing through to a truenas machine . Will record the tutorial
@@MadLabNexus That sounds interesting, and I definitely will keep my eyes open for it.
The jank of those GPUs just poking through the side of the case worries me. We had a PC like that way, way back in the 90s and in the end it shorted out and everything broke.
@@samwalker7567 unfortunate that is the only way to use newer gpus in this old 2014 drowned machine. It’s good in my case because my lab has access restricted:)
pretty awesome setup...
Thanks!
sick!!
@@Lunolux tkx
Hey, how did you solve with anticheats, like easyanticheat in fortnite or battleeye in rainbow?
Check the comments :) there are some ways….
Solução bem bacana para substituir o Backplane, a fonte proprietária dessa maquina é facil de achar ?
Bem tranquilo mercado livre tem platinum e titanium so cuidado pra nao comprar as da IBM
@@MadLabNexus Show muito obrigado, atualmente estou em um jornada parecida com um Thinkstation P520 mas o Server mesmo acaba sendo uma opção melhor no futuro
nice
Thanks
Very cool!
Thank you:)
hey, may i ask what the model number of the machine is(lenovo server)?
It’s running pretty silent for a server.
Sure this is an old 2014 td350 cto=70DG, but newer servers would be more silent :) check comments of the video I shared the links
@@MadLabNexus hey, thanks for the prompt reply. Since you mentioned working at lenovo, what would you recommend instead?
I was thinking dual gen1 or gen2 xeon scalable processors initially but always hit a roadblock with HP/Dell due to the loud fans..
@@gumz4183 Lenovo servers came from “IBM design” so best of the best… for low fan noise you might try to go for an enterprise Lenovo pre owned tower server, if you need a budget setup, you can go with lower models but if you have a bit more money go for an v1 Lenovo tower. Check if it has the same structure as mine, Dell and HPE are awesome machines but cooling system of them are not best optimized so they have 1 big fan… this is noisy, but if you grab a Lenovo to entrance server, with less fans you will hear noise too. This one is the evolution farrrr better than mine for using gen 1 or gen2 lenovopress.lenovo.com/lp1055-thinksystem-st550-server
@@MadLabNexus Thank you for the recommendation, I see stock of st550 available with a local enterprise server refurbisher. I will investigate further before I make the purchase and also check if a noctua fan replacement can be done to cut some extra dB(s).
wish you the best of luck
which model is the lenovo thinkserve?i am looking for same server with 16 hdd bay..Thanks in advance
This one is old, 2014 TD350, if you want something newer check the st650 at lenovopress.com
nice one
Thanks
hey bro i have a problem with hp dl360 g10 i install WS2022 and sql but when i start the vm the server starts going crazy with the fans randomly increase the speed for nothing, you now what is the problem?
In general you have more fan while server cpu is used and gets hot. So you demand cpu starting the vm and it forces the cpu and fans get in action. This is a normal behavior. You can try to change bios settings cooling profile for hpe
hello, can i use my igpu from 7600x for mac os, and rtx 4060 for windows gaming?
Hello you need to check in opencore gpu guide, I cannot tell you if specifically this igpu will work, but I can say that the principle of using any hardware within a vm is the same and your igpu “should” be “passthruable” the main issue is to check if macos will see it. dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Install-Guide/
This is a fantastic build, thanks for showing it
@@garrettmandujano2996 thank you :)
@@MadLabNexus Hi i have a question now, i made a proxmox server because of your video, thank you! but now i have trouble with hardware acceleration on MacOS VM, I see Display 7MB in my about this mac next to graphics. i used the recommended settings from your description. i have a nvidia 1080 ti, does the card need to be amd radeon for mac? Thank you!
there is a Guide for hackintosh in the web regarding the GPUs. Since you will be passing thru the situation is the same if you were using baremetal instead of virtual machine. There are some cards that work out of the box… nvidia is a problem unfortunately… check the guide dortania.github.io/GPU-Buyers-Guide/
@@MadLabNexus awesome! thank you very much!
No problem my friend please help us to spread the channel and the video to your friends :)
thats lovely but why no overlay ? some fps/frametime graphs
This was not the main objective. The focus was show it’s “possible to play “ and work simultaneously using vms and “maybe” play on 2 machines.
@@MadLabNexus would have loved to see if it's feasible to play and/or even play competitively. Could be a very good use case for a hypervisor as a desktop with the amount of power you can cramp into today's mini or full sized towers. Having something like your main debian/proxmox with various VMS at no perceivable performance loss for a decent price would be amazing especially with Microsoft's recall and other dystopian crap. Thanks anyway
For doing this, you need an enterprise GPU card and also paying for Nvidia grid license. so the price of this will be too expensive. it’s better use baremetal PCs. but using consumer GPU like my set up you can pass through one GPU to each virtual machine and it will work smooth. Problem is for each vm one gpu will be required
@@MadLabNexus that's exactly what I pictured. Dedicated or low end ARC for the host and one gaming card for one windows vm and it's apps
In this case that’s what I am doing. One GPU for windows (slim because a big width gpu will not fit the spaces) and other for Mac. Two gpus and there you go
Have you used this setup with any bluetooth devices?
Usb Bluetooth passed thru for windows and batocera so I can use my ps5 control to play emulators and other pc games. For macOS it’s possible but I did not configured yet. Im recording a tutorial and will try this. Subscribe and get the notification when i finish ;)