View and subscribe to Townsend here: ruclips.net/user/jastownsendandson Each clip and Townsend episode mentioned and used can be viewed below: Macaroni - A Recipe From 1784: ruclips.net/video/hV-yHbbrKRA/видео.html Pemmican - The Ultimate Survival Food: ruclips.net/video/x_vLuMobHCI/видео.html Fried Chicken In The 18th Century? 300 Year old Recipe: ruclips.net/video/GsyjNef2ydQ/видео.html Breakfast In The 18th Century!: ruclips.net/video/tJVzAvGGvR8/видео.html
"Skirret" came through the closed-captioning as "spirits"- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sium_sisarum As per the Wikipedia page, it's of Chinese origin but was known in Rome by the first century. My early education put so much emphasis on the Age of Exploration that it sometimes catches me off-guard to realize how interconnected the ancient world could be.
See this kind of crossover nonsense is amazing. I love this guy and got into his stuff by looking up woodworking and some how got on a video about dugout canoe.
This cross-over is inspired. I'm sure the comments section is full of this already 😂 For some reason I was under the impression that I was the only one that had both an obsession with space/futurism as well as history and D.I.Y. Thank you both for the collaboration! Two of my favorite channels in one place.
This channel restores my faith in RUclips. I would like to have some time in the hey day of my tribe, 1820's-1870's, and gotten my grandparents/ancestors input on the direction we should take. Would they approve of our people nowadays? I would like to tell them how important they are and how we all still look to them and their memories for leadership and guidance. Their reach has extended far beyond their own individual life times.
Great episode! I love channel collaborations and I am a particular fan of Jon Townsend. He welcomes you in every one of his videos and speaks in nuanced terms about the subject matter.
i dont know this am i right i smell cookies from hell smells like bugs kidding but there are bad bugs on the floor spites out something buys out of mouth i never do that in reil life cause thats not reil its in a moveie a sad movie
JMG, John Townsend- thank you! History is a passion of mine, and this history of foods is a treat. My primary interest in the 18th century is the Seven Years War, and that part of same in North America called the French and Indian War. Literally world-changing events that set the stage for the modern world as we know it.
One could make the case that the seven years war was really the first modern "world war". But I agree, it changed everything, despite not being very well remembered these days.
@@JohnMichaelGodier I have been sharply lectured in the past for making just that comparison, but I agree there is some validity to it. I am something of an Anglophile, and while researching the British army in the American War of Independence, I soon discovered that to really understand what was happening, one has to go back to the 7YW.
Amazing! Been a long subscriber to both you guys and was truly amazed seeing (hearing) you two in same video. Both of you guys have enriched my life in many ways. Thank you both if you ever read this.
Great video and very interesting. I was looking in my 19th century cookbook from the 1890s it had a recipe for blackbird pie which is something I doubt many people cook today. As for visiting a time period I would love to live in the late 19th century in London. The Victorian era has always been one of my favorites. Thanks for the video!
@Podkova Agreed you had science and spiritualism both extremely popular at the same time it really was the old world and new colliding. I find I'm a mix of the two myself sometimes which is why I think I would be right at home then.
I love Jon! Two of my favorite channels on a colab I never would have imagined 😍 both of you keep it up! I'd love a 3 way colab John as the interviewer Jon as the pioneer/colony expert and Isacc as the futurist in a discussion on what we can learn from past colonies about future planetary/stellar settlement. ❤️❤️❤️ please make this happen.
If i could live a lifetime in a virtual reality scenario, i'd most possibly want to live in an idealized Medieval-ish scenario, without any diseases, famine or oppression. Just a quiet life with a Family at the countryside, after some time of roaming. (ok some occasional dragon salying from time to time would be nice too 😉 )
The most likely source of the belief that tomatoes are poisonous was the result of serving tomatoes on pewter dishes -- the acidic juice would leach lead out of the pewter, giving the food a metallic flavor and causing lead poisoning.
HI JMG, A bit off topic, but I have just finished reading SUPERMIND and just want to take a moment to thank you for writing a mind bending ,thought provoking excellent story and I do pray that youtube does not take away to much time from your literary pursuits. AMAZING BOOK!! thank you
Hi Andrew, glad you enjoyed it! And actually, being able to do RUclips full time has freed up more time for writing. So everything is well! New book probably towards the end of the year.
Is this real life? 2 of my favorite channels on seemingly opposite ends of the spectrum creating a collab video? It doesn't get better than this. I now have physical proof that I have an affinity for subscribing to the right channels.
Aliens and 18th century cooking. Now datsa beautiful combination I like in my RUclips diet! Also, the discussion on how Modernization and the 1000 mile salad had ruined our food variety sounds like a perfect thing to undo with vertical farming and the complete growing conditions control you get with indoor farming. Maybe we could see heritage foods make a comeback because it's grown down the block
JMG - OK you asked for it! For many years I worked here in UK as a Historical Interpreter/re-enactor. We had our own Celtic/Romano British group and my best friend portrayed our "Celtic King". He was SO popular - had long hair always braided or in pony tail and the most fantastic droopy moustache - in short, every image I find of you, I think it's HIM. If you wore his fabulous costume, carried his weapons, you could be him. Whenever I listen to your vidoes I'm thinking of him!
Maybe I'll put on my chain mail and have a cup of coffee for breakfast, take the good parts of history and leave the rest behind! :-) Looking forward to Lorimer.
Been with Event Horizon from the very beginning cos of my prior subscription with your first channel John. Then a few months ago I started to get into bushcraft videos and about a month ago subbed to Townsend. Quirky coincidence that of all the channels with seemingly nothing in common and within a month, this is your first cross topic guest. Quirky for me anyway. I guess quality content will eventually come together. Nice one!
Dear Mr. Godier :) What an absolutely delightful, culinary and reality expansive video-essay - and VERY conciousness stimulating as well I might add. I am a Dansih guy who have thought about "the end of history"-like scenario (not the first one...that was in the 90's?) offered by e.g. proponents of a transhumanist singularity world where human culture merges with artificial super-intelligence and in so doing (it is proposed) nulifies/obsoletes the need for and meaning in and very fabric of biological, psychological and spiritual development of humans. Yet I have looong suspected as I also sense in your own proposed timeline-development for the trajectory of human civilization and kind - that a bifurcation or even a trifurcation - of humankind will take place - partitioning - roughly speaking - us into a group of human-ness conservatives and eco-oriented spiritualy motivated nature and humanitarian-puritan movement both encompassing hippie-like bio-dome dwellers and spirit-in-nature shamanistic oriented folk as well as a myriad of traditional religious groups/cultures on the planet that will refuse to go on the path of inorganic machine merging. So my take on your question is that we will see OLD-SCHOOLERS that go back in search of a more inherently human culture devoid of advanced electronics and machinery a bit like life quality seeking slow-living OFF-THE_GRID proponents. That was my thoughts - LOVE your HIGHLY original content and idea of exploring FUTURES past - or cyberpunk like combinations of past and future - merging of timelines etc. Amamzing man! Kind regards from Denmark ;)
I think you and John should do a 18th Cen futurist to talk about the future in terms of the 18th Cen as they would have looked ahead from where they were.
This is so interesting to me because I am subscribed to both channels due to my interests in history and astronomy but my question is about something a little different. Jon in the other part of this video you talk about suet and speculate as to something you call a dumpling, now as a Brit we often are confused by the same word having a different meaning on our side of the pond (I don't mean the pronunciation of tomato or the like). Examples include biscuits and muffins but the dumpling piqued my curiosity because, to me, a dumpling is a doughball made from flour, water, suet and salt and cooked in a stew and I know that in Caribbean cooking it is similar but fried not boiled by cooking in a stew.What exactly is it in the manner that you were talking about? With currants it sounds like the pudding called Spotted Dick in Britain and we used to have other steamed pudding in which the base ingredients were the same, is this the context of your dumplings?
Wait, so my new favorite RUclips channel collaborated with one of my old favorites (Townsends) and I only found out about it by randomly browsing your videos? Oh well, it's close enough to Christmas to be like an early present i guess...
Hey, speak for yourselves. We Dutch had most if not all of these herbs and spices in our daily live from the 16th and 17th century. Some even going back to the 15th century. With "Europe" you mean the British and a few Eastern European countries. The Spanish, Portuguese, French and Dutch Empires and via trade with the Dutch a few of the German Kingdom's were way ahead of these guys in food and spices they knew and used on an almost daily basis.
Oh I absolutely love The History Guy's Content. I discovered it a few months ago. Another one I've been watching for obscure WWII history is Mark Felton Productions.
As you see how the newer Millennial Generations today are taking and have took a notice of things we used to do decades ago when the sense of the 80s the 70s maybe even the 60s people talking about how we never really had video games how we never really had the internet how he never really had certain things as we do today how the lap of luxury when it comes to being able to connect to somebody in the sense of calling them via FaceTime telephone text message email or even to find companionship it just amazing how far we've come and how mind-blowing a lot of people who are born turn the last decade or two are so surprised that you literally back in the 80s and before have to have gone out and met somebody in person or remember their number and dialed it manually it's just mind-blowing what the world is going to look like 20 to 30 years from now that is if we can recognize it is going to look extremely different some things remain remain the same the things evolve over time just as food as just as recipes had you never stick with the original recipe people tweak it these days now you don't just have mac and cheese you have mac and cheese with mushrooms bacon and some peppers possibly
copcat tryin cop my matters watch your head but you cant have mine hahah im sorry know you know sorry im the won who tolld you soo you just cross the line you are out of soorry sorry sorry SIKE HAGABYH
View and subscribe to Townsend here:
ruclips.net/user/jastownsendandson
Each clip and Townsend episode mentioned and used can be viewed below:
Macaroni - A Recipe From 1784: ruclips.net/video/hV-yHbbrKRA/видео.html
Pemmican - The Ultimate Survival Food: ruclips.net/video/x_vLuMobHCI/видео.html
Fried Chicken In The 18th Century? 300 Year old Recipe: ruclips.net/video/GsyjNef2ydQ/видео.html
Breakfast In The 18th Century!: ruclips.net/video/tJVzAvGGvR8/видео.html
Townsend and Godier, what a combo!
"Skirret" came through the closed-captioning as "spirits"- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sium_sisarum
As per the Wikipedia page, it's of Chinese origin but was known in Rome by the first century. My early education put so much emphasis on the Age of Exploration that it sometimes catches me off-guard to realize how interconnected the ancient world could be.
i knw him hes 26 years old
me mommy is polish glodd
Well this isn't something I'd think I'd ever see. Cool. Townsends are great.
See this kind of crossover nonsense is amazing. I love this guy and got into his stuff by looking up woodworking and some how got on a video about dugout canoe.
I did the same thing I was learning how to restore wood veneer and stumbled on making spruce beer and I began watching every cooking video.
is the pictures old am i right tehe
This video was a pleasant surprise. 👍
This cross-over is inspired. I'm sure the comments section is full of this already
😂 For some reason I was under the impression that I was the only one that had both an obsession with space/futurism as well as history and D.I.Y.
Thank you both for the collaboration! Two of my favorite channels in one place.
@@TheRealTimnation well when the current reality is so helpless, people like to escape into the fantasy of the future or the nostalgia of the past.
This channel restores my faith in RUclips. I would like to have some time in the hey day of my tribe, 1820's-1870's, and gotten my grandparents/ancestors input on the direction we should take. Would they approve of our people nowadays? I would like to tell them how important they are and how we all still look to them and their memories for leadership and guidance. Their reach has extended far beyond their own individual life times.
Thank you very much for this colorful video
and all the best to you!!
Great episode! I love channel collaborations and I am a particular fan of Jon Townsend. He welcomes you in every one of his videos and speaks in nuanced terms about the subject matter.
This video turned out vastly more interesting than I expected. Thank you.
i dont know this am i right i smell cookies from hell smells like bugs kidding but there are bad bugs on the floor spites out something buys out of mouth i never do that in reil life cause thats not reil its in a moveie a sad movie
Two of my favorite people, in the same episode! Thank you, John and Jon! (y)
Two of my favourite channels and a very unlikely crossover, loved it!
JMG, John Townsend- thank you! History is a passion of mine, and this history of foods is a treat.
My primary interest in the 18th century is the Seven Years War, and that part of same in North America called the French and Indian War. Literally world-changing events that set the stage for the modern world as we know it.
One could make the case that the seven years war was really the first modern "world war". But I agree, it changed everything, despite not being very well remembered these days.
@@JohnMichaelGodier I have been sharply lectured in the past for making just that comparison, but I agree there is some validity to it. I am something of an Anglophile, and while researching the British army in the American War of Independence, I soon discovered that to really understand what was happening, one has to go back to the 7YW.
very underrated channel. High quality videos and great discussions. Glad I stumbled upon this hidden gem. keep up the good work!
Amazing! Been a long subscriber to both you guys and was truly amazed seeing (hearing) you two in same video. Both of you guys have enriched my life in many ways. Thank you both if you ever read this.
Of course I read the comments :)
Love Jon's channel.
Really educational.
Fascinating episode, I will have to look up this gentleman's channel. Thanks for the introduction John.
I often use nutmeg for chicken. I think they go well together.
Great video and very interesting. I was looking in my 19th century cookbook from the 1890s it had a recipe for blackbird pie which is something I doubt many people cook today. As for visiting a time period I would love to live in the late 19th century in London. The Victorian era has always been one of my favorites. Thanks for the video!
@Podkova Agreed you had science and spiritualism both extremely popular at the same time it really was the old world and new colliding. I find I'm a mix of the two myself sometimes which is why I think I would be right at home then.
I love Jon! Two of my favorite channels on a colab I never would have imagined 😍 both of you keep it up! I'd love a 3 way colab John as the interviewer Jon as the pioneer/colony expert and Isacc as the futurist in a discussion on what we can learn from past colonies about future planetary/stellar settlement. ❤️❤️❤️ please make this happen.
Was actually subbed to Townsends several years ago before discovering this channel. This is fantastic.
I absolutely LOVE Jon's channel!
What a collision between past and future. Two of my favorite RUclipsrs come together like this. :-)
Omfg John an Jon? Lol this is a surprising treat I can't wait to see where this goes. Both of you keep up the good work!
I just found this and I love it! So funny that I came across both of your channels recently and then I see this. Thanks for joining up!
After I watched this I went to Jon's channel and holy heck!!!! I've absolutely loved every second of it!! Thank you JMG!
Some beautiful drone footage in the beginning. Really nice! 😃
LOVE the collab!
The tomato got me think if people ever tried to sneakily kill someone with the tomato.
LOUDMOUTHTYRONE I did, it didn’t work 😒
If i could live a lifetime in a virtual reality scenario, i'd most possibly want to live in an idealized Medieval-ish scenario, without any diseases, famine or oppression.
Just a quiet life with a Family at the countryside, after some time of roaming.
(ok some occasional dragon salying from time to time would be nice too 😉 )
You should play Skyrim lol
Playing on easy mode gets boring fast
im not like most girls tehe from larry
Didnt expect much of this. But this was amazing!
I think it’s awesome the way you go from Jon Towensend to Isaac Arthur. Great variety keep it coming. Very good variety it’s awesome!
Thanks! We like to mix it up a bit.
The most likely source of the belief that tomatoes are poisonous was the result of serving tomatoes on pewter dishes -- the acidic juice would leach lead out of the pewter, giving the food a metallic flavor and causing lead poisoning.
Top ten anime crossovers
HI JMG,
A bit off topic, but I have just finished reading SUPERMIND and just want to take a moment to thank you for writing a mind bending ,thought provoking excellent story and I do pray that youtube does not take away to much time from your literary pursuits.
AMAZING BOOK!!
thank you
Hi Andrew, glad you enjoyed it! And actually, being able to do RUclips full time has freed up more time for writing. So everything is well! New book probably towards the end of the year.
What a great episode with a couple of wonderful Jo(h)ns! I had to come back and watch it again! Thanks guys!
Such an amazing episode loved it
Love Townsend.....
Jon Townsend on Event Horizon??? I don't know why this is happening but I am SO glad it is!!
I just had a mini stroke. My two favorite channels collaborating!
Is this real life? 2 of my favorite channels on seemingly opposite ends of the spectrum creating a collab video? It doesn't get better than this. I now have physical proof that I have an affinity for subscribing to the right channels.
What an awesome surprise!
Aliens and 18th century cooking. Now datsa beautiful combination I like in my RUclips diet!
Also, the discussion on how Modernization and the 1000 mile salad had ruined our food variety sounds like a perfect thing to undo with vertical farming and the complete growing conditions control you get with indoor farming. Maybe we could see heritage foods make a comeback because it's grown down the block
ohmy goodness townsend oh event horizon wow this makes up for my day.
JMG - OK you asked for it! For many years I worked here in UK as a Historical Interpreter/re-enactor. We had our own Celtic/Romano British group and my best friend portrayed our "Celtic King". He was SO popular - had long hair always braided or in pony tail and the most fantastic droopy moustache - in short, every image I find of you, I think it's HIM. If you wore his fabulous costume, carried his weapons, you could be him. Whenever I listen to your vidoes I'm thinking of him!
Jon Towsend puts nutmeg in his Nutmeg! lol j/k Jon is good people Thank you for having him on man!
I binged on Townsend vids once. The video on what a dairy aka "deirie" in the 1750's was like is very interesting, as I work on a dairy farm.
Something a bit different, very nice.
Maybe I'll put on my chain mail and have a cup of coffee for breakfast, take the good parts of history and leave the rest behind! :-) Looking forward to Lorimer.
Wow two of my favorite youtube channels combine...didnt see that comming
Hope you enjoyed it!
Good stuff I’m subscribed to Jon Townsend as well
Love the Townsends. Wish I could work out there with them.
Not quite what I was expecting but awesome channel recommendation nonetheless!
love Townsend good people
Been with Event Horizon from the very beginning cos of my prior subscription with your first channel John. Then a few months ago I started to get into bushcraft videos and about a month ago subbed to Townsend. Quirky coincidence that of all the channels with seemingly nothing in common and within a month, this is your first cross topic guest. Quirky for me anyway.
I guess quality content will eventually come together. Nice one!
Ok this is one collab I never saw coming, this is going to be interesting 😀
Dear Mr. Godier :) What an absolutely delightful, culinary and reality expansive video-essay - and VERY conciousness stimulating as well I might add. I am a Dansih guy who have thought about "the end of history"-like scenario (not the first one...that was in the 90's?) offered by e.g. proponents of a transhumanist singularity world where human culture merges with artificial super-intelligence and in so doing (it is proposed) nulifies/obsoletes the need for and meaning in and very fabric of biological, psychological and spiritual development of humans. Yet I have looong suspected as I also sense in your own proposed timeline-development for the trajectory of human civilization and kind - that a bifurcation or even a trifurcation - of humankind will take place - partitioning - roughly speaking - us into a group of human-ness conservatives and eco-oriented spiritualy motivated nature and humanitarian-puritan movement both encompassing hippie-like bio-dome dwellers and spirit-in-nature shamanistic oriented folk as well as a myriad of traditional religious groups/cultures on the planet that will refuse to go on the path of inorganic machine merging. So my take on your question is that we will see OLD-SCHOOLERS that go back in search of a more inherently human culture devoid of advanced electronics and machinery a bit like life quality seeking slow-living OFF-THE_GRID proponents.
That was my thoughts - LOVE your HIGHLY original content and idea of exploring FUTURES past - or cyberpunk like combinations of past and future - merging of timelines etc. Amamzing man! Kind regards from Denmark ;)
my English teacher bought me here
😂
Most of the time, Dutch chocolate is referring to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_process_chocolate
I think you and John should do a 18th Cen futurist to talk about the future in terms of the 18th Cen as they would have looked ahead from where they were.
I really watched half an hour of some nerds talking about 18th century food. AMAZING.
This is so interesting to me because I am subscribed to both channels due to my interests in history and astronomy but my question is about something a little different. Jon in the other part of this video you talk about suet and speculate as to something you call a dumpling, now as a Brit we often are confused by the same word having a different meaning on our side of the pond (I don't mean the pronunciation of tomato or the like). Examples include biscuits and muffins but the dumpling piqued my curiosity because, to me, a dumpling is a doughball made from flour, water, suet and salt and cooked in a stew and I know that in Caribbean cooking it is similar but fried not boiled by cooking in a stew.What exactly is it in the manner that you were talking about? With currants it sounds like the pudding called Spotted Dick in Britain and we used to have other steamed pudding in which the base ingredients were the same, is this the context of your dumplings?
Wait, so my new favorite RUclips channel collaborated with one of my old favorites (Townsends) and I only found out about it by randomly browsing your videos?
Oh well, it's close enough to Christmas to be like an early present i guess...
Enjoy! It’s a two part episode.
ruclips.net/video/FFH6RmX0JPQ/видео.html
@@EventHorizonShow thanks i will
Which classical piece at the beginning?
guest win!
I would love to see historical reenactments in a virtual simulator, just not with S.A.M.
One day futurism will transform into historical reenactment if time travel is possible
Fantastic chat, man... Thanks a lot!!! 😊
(Sorry, I had to stop watching earlier because someone come here... You know.)
I always wondered what food would taste like back then
Yes!!!! The infamous Pemican series!!!
This video should have come with a [HUNGER] warning. I feel miself triggered!
Every astronomer is a frustrated historian,every historian a frustrated astronomer.
I was just writing about the use of straw,natural or threshed,used as a 17th century bonding material on internal walls in my town!
All astronomers are historians: they are always looking at past events.
Baby Grand ubiquitous?!? In what reality?
I'm dedicating my life to the 1700's as much as I can! even if it means purchasing an island off the coast of Great Britain or America.
Hell Ya! Townsends!
Oh wow! My favorite RUclips Channels did a crossover!
Im an American but I feel like Biscuits and Tea when I hear that Harpsichord.
You ever wonder what It would be like to live in ancient Rome? I bet it would be insane. Especially the
Amphitheatrum Flavium
Love townsend
Hey, speak for yourselves.
We Dutch had most if not all of these herbs and spices in our daily live from the 16th and 17th century.
Some even going back to the 15th century.
With "Europe" you mean the British and a few Eastern European countries.
The Spanish, Portuguese, French and Dutch Empires and via trade with the Dutch a few of the German Kingdom's were way ahead of these guys in food and spices they knew and used on an almost daily basis.
Interesting, not an interview candidate I would have ever thought of were I in your position.
Love jon
Is it possible to resurrect things that have disappeared through books?
Chocolate drink sounds great
📜I love History📝
John if you aren't familiar with The History Guy's channel here on RUclips you should check him out. He has some very good content for history.
Oh I absolutely love The History Guy's Content. I discovered it a few months ago. Another one I've been watching for obscure WWII history is Mark Felton Productions.
The narrator talks like he has an Adam’s apple the size of a grapefruit
John Michael Goiter
I was just about to go to sleep.. darnit..
We should all thank western european males of this time for giving us the beautifil lives we have today
I have an iPhone 7 Plus my phone is already obsolete
I don’t have a cell phone
It's toe mat toe!
More Nutmeg please.
As you see how the newer Millennial Generations today are taking and have took a notice of things we used to do decades ago when the sense of the 80s the 70s maybe even the 60s people talking about how we never really had video games how we never really had the internet how he never really had certain things as we do today how the lap of luxury when it comes to being able to connect to somebody in the sense of calling them via FaceTime telephone text message email or even to find companionship it just amazing how far we've come and how mind-blowing a lot of people who are born turn the last decade or two are so surprised that you literally back in the 80s and before have to have gone out and met somebody in person or remember their number and dialed it manually it's just mind-blowing what the world is going to look like 20 to 30 years from now that is if we can recognize it is going to look extremely different some things remain remain the same the things evolve over time just as food as just as recipes had you never stick with the original recipe people tweak it these days now you don't just have mac and cheese you have mac and cheese with mushrooms bacon and some peppers possibly
Send me back, modernity sucks.
It's pretty neat for every one of us, who wouldn't have had any rights, had we lived in any other time period than now.
@@frejahavn1307 Try to sell that shit to someone else.
tehe im blind i wish i was in hell tehe lalala sing the happy song
copcat tryin cop my matters watch your head but you cant have mine hahah im sorry know you know sorry im the won who tolld you soo you just cross the line you are out of soorry sorry sorry SIKE HAGABYH
bille ELISH I LOVE HER SOOOOOOOO MUCH
Why does fashion change so dramatically?
👍👍
Disease, famine, perils of childbirth, class structure … nope. I'll take now and the future along with Pinker.
lalalalalalalalala
I like nutmeg. To get high