Ahana Anand I mean I understand your point. But their parents did put (probably) a lot of work and effort in that college. But I still think she should try.
idk man i have a high GPA (not sure exactly how high i havent checked but im in the top) and i would do something like this, forgetting to do one simple thing.
I mean kinda makes sense, if i worked hard enough to be able to donate millions of dollars to a school, i would want to be able to provide the best possible chance at education for my kids
you're still looking at this as a one generation deal, and I've already admitted it's obviously not fair when you isolate it. But when you consider the parent had to work wayyyyyyy harder to have that kind of influence than the kid would of had to work in school, it balances out pretty fairly.
I really like this game because I think it's a good reality check for a lot of today's seniors. Getting into college takes a lot more than just a high GPA. Connections, experiences, and being well-rounded means so much more.
I disagree. Colleges like when students are well-rounded to an extent, but specializes and really commits to a singular passion or niche, making them stand out from the crowd of people who are mediocre at a lot of things.
not very accurate at all. you're telling me the 2.9 gpa has a better shot at college than the 4.1 gpa? and they didnt even take sat or act scores into effect.
I think you meant it is not fair, and yes your right, its not fair. But this is very true illustration (even if copied from another video (coughMississippiCommunityCollegecough). Colleges are selfish businesses in the end. They sell degrees rather than widgets. Colleges want money and a good reputation. Those that can do both get in. One trick ponies only get half a chance, and get further sorted out by the metrics just as illustrated. In today's reality someone will keep hiding your cheese and probably already Madoff with your chances so be cautious with your bacon, no matter how much you bring home.
+Javaughn Headley it’s entirely fair, but only if you don’t isolate the current generation, if you look at the past several generations as a whole, the 2.9’s parents or grandparents worked extremely hard to be able to provide a benefit for her, and if she doesn’t maintain that hard work she won’t be able to provide that benefit for her kids, if i worked hard enough to be able to donate millions of dollars to a school, i would want to be able to provide the best possible chance at education for my kids
What I learned from this video is that you get accepted to a college only because you have the same last name as the college.... **Changes last name to Harvard and gets accepted**
That’s probably why he got the highest GPA. He didn’t challenge himself enough and cared more about the number. Some people risk the rigor because they realize it will only make them stronger despite how it make them look.
nightraider007 it pisses me off too like why tf do i need to take all these things into account why cant i just do my tests and my sat and my sports and build a resume bla bla bla why tf does me having a single parent have to do with my chances of getting into college. Just cause i have two parents it is harder for me to get into college? Thats brain dead.
+Rick Avory maybe it's because it's harder when you have 1. Statistically they are at a disadvantage for something that hasn't much to do with them but the circumstances they were born in. Statistically an orphan should be dead, a drug addict etc. So if somehow a child makes it despite being disadvantaged I find it would make sense it would help them.
theworldaccordingtovivian it means like if you’ve made a HUGE financial contribution to the school. Since, after all, private universities have to pay for all the need based scholarships they give out :/
I mean kinda makes sense, if i worked hard enough to be able to donate millions of dollars to a school, i would want to be able to provide the best possible chance at education for my kids
This makes me sick... As a college student, I sometimes wonder why I am even pursuing a degree. Sure, education is important, but kids are conditioned to believe that college is the only path that leads to success when that is simply not the case. You CAN succeed without a college degree. That said, I am not saying you should dismiss college entirely, because it can be valuable and is sometimes necessary. What I am saying is that you should not place so much emphasis on a degree, as though your potential for success depends on it completely, and DO NOT take on mountains of debt to acquire a degree. So many students find themselves in overwhelmingly large amounts of debt after graduation, only to realize that they would have been better off without their degree because of the debt that came with it. For that reason, I have two words... Community College. Complete as many courses as possible at a community college before transferring to a university and, when you do decide to transfer, realize that the cost of tuition does not always reflect the quality of education. In other words, you do not have to attend the most prestigious university to receive a quality education.
It takes time, effort and dedication to pursue a college degree. But sometimes we lose interest in the routine, and do something thats more enjoyable, time worthy, and obviously a benifet to our general lives, time for ourselves, and even money oriented and effecient.
For everyone commenting, outraged that the girl with the lowest GPA ended up at the top, I agree that it is frustrating that the hard work to maintain a high GPA has shown both in this video and in real life not to do as much to increase your chances of admissions as much as being born into the family that donated large sums money which is a factor entirely out of your control! You should be mad at the college system for having preference over the student that didn't do as much academically if you do think the opportunities the other applicants took part in should have been taken account of and considered of more importance that other factors in the college admissions process. I'm willing to share my thought that I think others can relate to, that many applicants are attracted the the idea of attending a prestigious (and often competitive) school because of the opportunities for better connections, because this was also a thought of mine. But stop there! Isn't this part of the problem? If this was your thought, you should definitely think about your reasons if you thought this was unfair. Most people are mad because this connection she had with the school gave her preference over other applicants and meant that they would need to work harder than her of only one spot was offered. That settled, I do understand that there are many other reasons one would want to attend a school with a competitive admissions process. Generally these schools are four-year universities offering reputable degree programs in specific fields of interest. I won't sit here and say you will have the same experience if you start at community college. Likewise, I'm sure others will say the same. However, this is a great way you can save money (which seems to have been the "problem" to begin with). Don't dismiss the fact you can receive the same piece of paper say you decide to transfer! If you do realize that the program you are interested is only available at the more prestigious school in your pool (which happened to me) or decide after all that completing courses at another school will be valuable in your education (whether to open more doors, etc.), you can do so as a graduate or transfer student. I think we can all be mad that this girl will either take advantage of the privilege she's been given and improve the unfair college admissions system that has plagued many of the nations top universities or fall behind in the rigors of college work and waste the college's money; but that the college will take their chances that as opposed to offering her spot to someone more "deserving" all to continue to entice wealthy people to donate large sums of money. A few questions I have are: Do you think that only someone who is educated or has connections can be the one to improve the system? Will donors stop donating if they see no incentive? What message does the act of accepting legacies, or those related to donors send to others? I see it play out like The Hunger Games. Colleges want money and students want to get accepted. These monetary contributions along with spots reserved for legacies (regardless of the possibility of admitting a more qualified applicant) give colleges the best chance to sustain themselves. Basically colleges are willing to keep admitting less "qualified" applicants to keep things going. For those granted admission, their mission should be to donate and expect that their thanks in return be in the form of some other worthy student being granted admission which should then be an endless cycle to succeed. The important thing, to make everyone happy, is to make sure money is donated only after they are accepted. Is this the best way to mediate the admissions process? While this doesn't change the fact that the process is not fair, the money donated to building that library has served many deserving students. The donors should be thanked, not their descendants. But you figure, how else can the college repay these the donors? Despite all the fees we see associated with college, the pursuit of education is in someways priceless. Where is the official college admissions rubric? Does anyone actually know exactly how students are selcted? I find it a little distressing that people are so quick to associate GPA with hard work. Maybe all her time and energy goes into prepping for the SAT/ACT tests. I know it sounds ridiculous but I also know may people who have stellar GPA's but score very low on the SAT. Don't get me wrong, I've also noticed most of the students whose parents were essentially white could easily score higher on the SAT without trying as hard. In the context of the exercise itself, we don't know if those scenarios were carefully chosen to illustrate this point. I doubt each of the scenarios mentioned were the only things that colleges look at as a whole. This student could have had the highest test scores although, like you, I think something would have been mentioned if this was the case and the stats and profiles of each student were real. We don't know this girl's story (or the person she represents in the entire college admissions game). And of course, as the video concluded, maybe her name really was the only leg up in her application. I know someone who didn't come from a rich family and took all the opportunities offered at my school (which compared to other schools was not a lot) and earned a full need-based scholarship to one the the most prestigious universities. Granted, I'm sure colleges are even more eager to accept a number of students each year to increase the diversity in the upcoming class these days but even then, she had to have been "qualified enough" (what ever that means) and maybe even more so to stand out. My point here is that it is possible. --- Adding to your comment, Brandon, I think anyone reading should carefully think about what pursuing a degree from a certain college means to each of themselves. Will you put all your trust in a degree from the college you can't trust to fairly screen the admissions process? Ask yourself questions, this being another one of them: How much of the process, or how you get there, is important to your own personal goals or is it ultimately just the diploma you want? Ultimately, if you can separate the education from the institution, you will also have to accept that you will have to work harder to stand out. !!! Just remember that the line represented the chances that each student had of getting in to a college. It is implied that the girl at the left will get in but she might not because her GPA is so low and could likeley not meet benchmark requirements. (Same goes for the possibility that she does actually meet or exceeds other criteria.) !!! --- For the last part of your comment, I think "good" may have been a better word to use and I say this because I think that for the most part, many of these competitive schools really try to entice students by staffing the most experienced faculty members in each of their respective fields as well as offering additional tools for research opportunities, and other perks to encourage as many students to apply. This is one reason I've considered the prospect of applying to a competitive school. If these benefits significantly outweigh what I can gain without them, then I would side with the possibility that other program might offer a more comprehensive experience in my own specific circumstance. --- I put very much thought into this so as to ensure my message was clear enough to understand! I do apologize for any errors in advance. As for me, I personally applaud anyone who seeks to use formal education as a way to better themselves and believe it can be a very powerful, personal investment. That being said, I do also recognize that learning can take place in other non-traditional settings and will not dismiss the ideas of others as long as they are earnest and constructive in the efforts to help others as well as themselves in moving forward (even if that sometimes means moving backward).
100% you should look at what your career goals are first and then see if you need to get a college degree people nowadays have it backwards they get a college degree and then see what their career goals are with that degree better go to trade school make six figures than have no career goals go to college and major in philosophy with no career goals
I was fortunate to attend an elite college on a scholarship however because the college was not well known outside of academic circles, it did nothing to help my career prospects and I might as well have gone to the local state university.
I hate how 4.1 is In the back the whole time. And the 2.8 girl wins because of her last name.... Absolute bullshit won't way of getting in to a college
Sammi Keller there's nothing wrong with it. It's just that it's one of the most popular undergraduate major so you have a harder chance to get in because of competition unlike a major like Greek which isn't that popular
Premed is super popular, along with psychology. So if you apply with that intended major, there's a good change a majority of other people did too, making you less eligible for a spade.
Why are people surprised that you have to be well connected to go to college. It has always been this way, pretty much since the inception of the University model.
The idea that other factors, aside from GPA, influence college admission is correct, but the size of the influence is overstated when you only have 8 people participating as opposed to the, what would be, thousands of applicants to a given college
idk the legacy thing doesn't bother me too much. If mean, if both parents and all your siblings went to a certain school, I'd (if I was apart of the admissions board) would lean towards admitting that other relative to keep it going. Should the process be revised? Yes, of course. Legacies should only be a very, very small factor in someone's admission -- i.e. if two people had the same exact profile but one was a legacy, I'd admit the legacy.
In most schools, legacy connections are only used to distinguish between two even students. Additionally, if someone is a legacy, they probably are more likely to attend the school and are more likely to enjoy it, so accepting them makes sense.
Now I finally realized that the front of the line is on the left. I was wondering why all the movements were weird and 2 people got "essay of the year."
Moral of the story: If you work really hard and get good grades and participate in clubs and organizations at school, that's nice, but we don't care. If you have a horrible GPA, don't care about school, and don't apply yourself, but have connections, you get a free pass.
"If you participated in a significant community service project, move up one space" Girl in blue moves. "If you achieved Gold Award in Girl Scouts, move up two spaces" One other girl moves. Ok, how did she do that without a community service project!!? That's what a gold award is!
The thing about this is, if the first person in line (highest GPA) has something that applies too, in real life they would move up even if there were no other people ahead of them, causing some with lower GPA unable to catch up.
I have mostly A's and a couple B's. I am starting high school soon and have been in ABSOLUTELY ZERO extracurricular activities because of my anxiety. I will ask my guidance councilor for help but my parents aren't really the best at handling children with mental illnesses, as I have seen with my sister. I want to make up for all the clubs I've missed and I'm planning to do so this September. A lot has to change, and I'm starting in May by talking to the guidance councilor. I hope that I will be able to present well in high school and I will stop at NOTHING to become a special education teacher!
When they got to the psychology and premed question I was wondering how strongly that applies to me as I applied to the Nursing schools/programs of colleges so I could dual major in nursing and psychology.
The girl with the lowest GPA and didn't even bother to write an essay is the most likely to get into college because her parents donated. I mean just look at her in this video, she even dresses like she doesn't want to put any effort in. I am not sure what this video is trying to prove.
And this video came out way before the "varsity blues" scandal. That is the first thing that came to mind when they asked the one about the last name. Donate a ton of money to get a building named after you and you get a free ticket in.
Welp that’s it! You have to be the absolute best at everything and make sure you join 87 school clubs but also get a job because you can’t be lazy but also get good grades because you need to be smart but also academics isn’t everything so make sure you do a lot of community service so you’re a good person and also make sure you get a good sleep and be healthy!
I'm actually someone who has a 2.8 yet I'm the most active and hard work person at my school who wins all the awards and scholarships. Also with numerous job offers. While my friends who have close to a 4.0 is struggling in life with 0 connections and a poopy job that they complain about all the time. (also never had won any awards or scholarships). I'm more happy (and in a way successful) compared to them...grades don't matter...at least not as much as what everyone says it to be.
what type of college should you aim for if you are in varsity sports, a 3.85 gpa and fine arts credentials as well as other menial things (community service, jazz band, etc.) (finishing sophomore year)
In some high schools, an A in an honors class will count as a 4.5 and an A in an AP class will count as a 5.0. Out of 4.0. So the students who took honors and AP throughout high school could easily get higher than a 4.0. In this video, there was a girl with a 4.1, so I'm assuming this was like that.
Psychology - because too many people want to major in psychology, and they can only accept so many Premed - because you shouldn't major in premed. Period. Follow the premed pathway, but under another major to expand your horizons, and ultimately make you a better doctor.
Angela Smith It's different, not so many people try to major in Greek like people who major in the medical field. So you'll have a higher chance of getting accepted for going for a less popular career.
This video scared me so much because I got a D in AP Human Geo. at the end of my junior year, lol I got into every college I wanted to, so for anyone here watching that’s stressing, don’t worry at all.
so rn I have a 3.57 GPA I played jv soccer this (I'm a freshman) and I'm taking advanced choir if I keep this up I guess I have a pretty good chance of getting into college
Jonathan Ashton Not really... btw instead of saying that, tell her what she can do to improve, you telling her that won’t help, pretty sure she didn’t come her to have someone throw that in her face
The issue I have with these videos is that you can easily tell by the end of the video that the college added in unrelated questions to move lower gpas up and higher gpas down. The dumb library question gets me every time... that will not help you get into college at all!
It actually makes sense because money and connections are stronger than GPA or test scores. Colleges are a business. Having extracurriculars indicates how much of a well-rounded person you are which is what colleges want. They want people who can contribute to their school and will make an impact on society in the future. This increases the college's prestige. Choosing a less popular major like Greek, as opposed to an extremely popular major like pre-med can give you a higher chance of being admitted.
I have a 4.2 GPA all honors and 1 ap class so far as a freshmen. I have a part time job and I participated in the robotics team. I do have a little community service work but it's not major mainly with helping out other competitions. No sports yet :P
Damn. Too bad colleges only really care about sophomore and junior year, but keep it up and you will literally have no problem getting into a very prestigious university.
Narguin Lee I’m actually in a good standing sophomore year. I got 100’s in AP world and honors chemistry and literature. Besides that, I have A’s in all my honors classes and AP stats
Nyah Alexis Of course for huge colleges yes, but if you go to those you really arent that smart because they cost so much. Most people go to non massive colleges anyways so there is reslly no worry. But to say someone with a 2.8 GPA beats someone with a 4.1 is insane.
Zombie Prodigy it is possible for someone with a 2.8 gpa to best someone with a 4.1 bc in this video she had connections so she obviously went to the front but they would most likely get into the same school
If you have rich actor parents, *please exit the line. You’re in*
Lmfaoo
*oLivIa jADe iNtenSiFIeS*
Lamo
@@violetnichols7465 i hate this video
@@101sanford uhhh okay?
That 2.8 girl said: 🏃🏼♀️
oml that emoji looks just like her- IM SHOOK
Barklee for life no not really. The 2.8 girl has brown hair not blonde
STONKS
Nice, all I need is for my parents to buy and name a building after themselves at every college I apply to and I don't have to try
Ahana Anand I mean I understand your point. But their parents did put (probably) a lot of work and effort in that college. But I still think she should try.
Gia May but who cares what their parents did for the college?
they spent a lot of money for the college, it completely makes since they would make it to the college.
Sally Vee you realize some of the USA's greatest presidents got into college on a legacy right? (FDR)
Its Zoe! Bush as well
Moral of the story : Have connections and you don't need to try in life!
bro same
jkjk
Wet Water lmao ok
"It's not about what you know but who you know"
Yup that's society right there
@@xzc11rl98 Welcome to the real world, schmuck.
I love how unrealistic it is that a person conscientious enough to get a 4.1 GPA would forget something this trivial.
Andy Xu It happens man
I ended my year with a 4.1 gpa and I hated my work I didn't turn in like 1/4 of my work I just made sure I had great notes for tests and extra credit
Exactly !
idk man i have a high GPA (not sure exactly how high i havent checked but im in the top) and i would do something like this, forgetting to do one simple thing.
4.1 is a weighted GPA, and that's pretty mediocre.
It really annoys me that the person with the lowest G.P.A got to the top of the line just because she was well connected
Felicity Forward that’s just life bro.
No, shit, Sherlock.
I mean kinda makes sense, if i worked hard enough to be able to donate millions of dollars to a school, i would want to be able to provide the best possible chance at education for my kids
Sam Adams still if they didn’t care enough in school they shouldn’t have a shot at life
you're still looking at this as a one generation deal, and I've already admitted it's obviously not fair when you isolate it. But when you consider the parent had to work wayyyyyyy harder to have that kind of influence than the kid would of had to work in school, it balances out pretty fairly.
I feel like the guy in plaid was moving for every question
The Mark of Oxin I
There are two guy plaids
The 3.1
Madeline Boser The one that didn't go out half way through.
No 0:44
Welp now I know the solution: I gotta change my name to Gates
I really like this game because I think it's a good reality check for a lot of today's seniors. Getting into college takes a lot more than just a high GPA. Connections, experiences, and being well-rounded means so much more.
I disagree. Colleges like when students are well-rounded to an extent, but specializes and really commits to a singular passion or niche, making them stand out from the crowd of people who are mediocre at a lot of things.
You forgot - if you are asian, move back 5 spaces
Why? *racism*
alasmychicken affirmative action.
Asian or white
And yet they still manage to make up the majority in most colleges🤔🤔
@Sadie Lexi and yet you’re still here commenting.
THAT GUY PLAGIARIZED HIS COLLEGE ESSAY??!
And got caught. That’s the important part
It’s a skit to portray college admissions
He didn’t really, these are just hypothetical situations
not very accurate at all. you're telling me the 2.9 gpa has a better shot at college than the 4.1 gpa? and they didnt even take sat or act scores into effect.
Baconator1368 yes because the family made a large contribution to the college
I think you meant it is not fair, and yes your right, its not fair. But this is very true illustration (even if copied from another video (coughMississippiCommunityCollegecough). Colleges are selfish businesses in the end. They sell degrees rather than widgets. Colleges want money and a good reputation. Those that can do both get in. One trick ponies only get half a chance, and get further sorted out by the metrics just as illustrated. In today's reality someone will keep hiding your cheese and probably already Madoff with your chances so be cautious with your bacon, no matter how much you bring home.
majidi This is the original video. The Mississippi one is from a year ago; this one is from three years ago.
It is accurate its just not fair
+Javaughn Headley it’s entirely fair, but only if you don’t isolate the current generation, if you look at the past several generations as a whole, the 2.9’s parents or grandparents worked extremely hard to be able to provide a benefit for her, and if she doesn’t maintain that hard work she won’t be able to provide that benefit for her kids, if i worked hard enough to be able to donate millions of dollars to a school, i would want to be able to provide the best possible chance at education for my kids
What I learned from this video is that you get accepted to a college only because you have the same last name as the college....
**Changes last name to Harvard and gets accepted**
3:35 so you're telling me EVERYONE except for the kid with one of the highest GPAs took AP classes?
That student may have taken Honors classes instead of AP classes, which aren't weighted the same
AP classes are alot harder than regular classes
That’s probably why he got the highest GPA. He didn’t challenge himself enough and cared more about the number.
Some people risk the rigor because they realize it will only make them stronger despite how it make them look.
the grading distribution wasn't the same as it is now. it's easier to get an A in an AP class now than it ever has been.
@@joeyGalileoHotto wait they were weighted the same? aw piss i wish i knew that a year ago
Why does a last name matter more than a 4.0 gpa
Sophia Payne because it is gates
Sophia Payne their family contributed to the school
Sophia Payne she has connections 😏
you’re dumb
Non-coincidental meaning her parents bought the library for the school
these videos always piss me off.
Kaitlyn Morris because its the truth
nightraider007 it pisses me off too like why tf do i need to take all these things into account why cant i just do my tests and my sat and my sports and build a resume bla bla bla why tf does me having a single parent have to do with my chances of getting into college. Just cause i have two parents it is harder for me to get into college? Thats brain dead.
+Rick Avory maybe it's because it's harder when you have 1. Statistically they are at a disadvantage for something that hasn't much to do with them but the circumstances they were born in. Statistically an orphan should be dead, a drug addict etc. So if somehow a child makes it despite being disadvantaged I find it would make sense it would help them.
Eh maybe.
Then don’t watch them... But I get your point, it’s annoying sometimes but I always give in and click.
This is word for word a copy of another video
bleeka325 ikr
bleeka325 or it's the same list every college judges by
+Chanel Foster lol no girl
no, this one is the original this was uploaded 3 years ago
This is the original
lol 4.1 you made a hugeeee mistake fam
1:09 2.9 gpa girl laughing at that girl for not changing the name 💀💀💀
will park there’s something called AP CLASSES AND NONWEIGHTING
will park I
she shouldnt be talking the girl had twice her gpa
@@srtwizzy8535 you slowww
@@crumpler7655 wat
The sports essay had me dead 😂
Wait people are saying this video is a copy of another video but look at the dates....
The girl at the front looks so content that she’s definitely going to college with poor efforts
A Girl how do you know she’s not putting in effort. Don’t assume shit about anyone
Gpas dont accurately affect the student. I suck at math and science but get A's and B's in any other class. I try my hardest. I just struggle.
*My parents should have named me Stanford😂*
This is literally a word by word copy of another video
This is literally a word for word copy of another comment
HK 😂
HK 💀💀💀
Natalie Wang it's a game not anything unique
This is the original
"if the name of the college library is gates" are they rlly that swayable with the applications
theworldaccordingtovivian it means like if you’ve made a HUGE financial contribution to the school. Since, after all, private universities have to pay for all the need based scholarships they give out :/
I mean kinda makes sense, if i worked hard enough to be able to donate millions of dollars to a school, i would want to be able to provide the best possible chance at education for my kids
Yes
This makes me sick... As a college student, I sometimes wonder why I am even pursuing a degree. Sure, education is important, but kids are conditioned to believe that college is the only path that leads to success when that is simply not the case. You CAN succeed without a college degree. That said, I am not saying you should dismiss college entirely, because it can be valuable and is sometimes necessary. What I am saying is that you should not place so much emphasis on a degree, as though your potential for success depends on it completely, and DO NOT take on mountains of debt to acquire a degree. So many students find themselves in overwhelmingly large amounts of debt after graduation, only to realize that they would have been better off without their degree because of the debt that came with it. For that reason, I have two words... Community College. Complete as many courses as possible at a community college before transferring to a university and, when you do decide to transfer, realize that the cost of tuition does not always reflect the quality of education. In other words, you do not have to attend the most prestigious university to receive a quality education.
It takes time, effort and dedication to pursue a college degree. But sometimes we lose interest in the routine, and do something thats more enjoyable, time worthy, and obviously a benifet to our general lives, time for ourselves, and even money oriented and effecient.
For everyone commenting, outraged that the girl with the lowest GPA ended up at the top, I agree that it is frustrating that the hard work to maintain a high GPA has shown both in this video and in real life not to do as much to increase your chances of admissions as much as being born into the family that donated large sums money which is a factor entirely out of your control! You should be mad at the college system for having preference over the student that didn't do as much academically if you do think the opportunities the other applicants took part in should have been taken account of and considered of more importance that other factors in the college admissions process.
I'm willing to share my thought that I think others can relate to, that many applicants are attracted the the idea of attending a prestigious (and often competitive) school because of the opportunities for better connections, because this was also a thought of mine. But stop there! Isn't this part of the problem? If this was your thought, you should definitely think about your reasons if you thought this was unfair. Most people are mad because this connection she had with the school gave her preference over other applicants and meant that they would need to work harder than her of only one spot was offered.
That settled, I do understand that there are many other reasons one would want to attend a school with a competitive admissions process. Generally these schools are four-year universities offering reputable degree programs in specific fields of interest. I won't sit here and say you will have the same experience if you start at community college. Likewise, I'm sure others will say the same. However, this is a great way you can save money (which seems to have been the "problem" to begin with). Don't dismiss the fact you can receive the same piece of paper say you decide to transfer! If you do realize that the program you are interested is only available at the more prestigious school in your pool (which happened to me) or decide after all that completing courses at another school will be valuable in your education (whether to open more doors, etc.), you can do so as a graduate or transfer student.
I think we can all be mad that this girl will either take advantage of the privilege she's been given and improve the unfair college admissions system that has plagued many of the nations top universities or fall behind in the rigors of college work and waste the college's money; but that the college will take their chances that as opposed to offering her spot to someone more "deserving" all to continue to entice wealthy people to donate large sums of money. A few questions I have are: Do you think that only someone who is educated or has connections can be the one to improve the system? Will donors stop donating if they see no incentive? What message does the act of accepting legacies, or those related to donors send to others? I see it play out like The Hunger Games. Colleges want money and students want to get accepted. These monetary contributions along with spots reserved for legacies (regardless of the possibility of admitting a more qualified applicant) give colleges the best chance to sustain themselves. Basically colleges are willing to keep admitting less "qualified" applicants to keep things going. For those granted admission, their mission should be to donate and expect that their thanks in return be in the form of some other worthy student being granted admission which should then be an endless cycle to succeed. The important thing, to make everyone happy, is to make sure money is donated only after they are accepted. Is this the best way to mediate the admissions process?
While this doesn't change the fact that the process is not fair, the money donated to building that library has served many deserving students. The donors should be thanked, not their descendants. But you figure, how else can the college repay these the donors? Despite all the fees we see associated with college, the pursuit of education is in someways priceless. Where is the official college admissions rubric? Does anyone actually know exactly how students are selcted? I find it a little distressing that people are so quick to associate GPA with hard work. Maybe all her time and energy goes into prepping for the SAT/ACT tests. I know it sounds ridiculous but I also know may people who have stellar GPA's but score very low on the SAT. Don't get me wrong, I've also noticed most of the students whose parents were essentially white could easily score higher on the SAT without trying as hard.
In the context of the exercise itself, we don't know if those scenarios were carefully chosen to illustrate this point. I doubt each of the scenarios mentioned were the only things that colleges look at as a whole. This student could have had the highest test scores although, like you, I think something would have been mentioned if this was the case and the stats and profiles of each student were real. We don't know this girl's story (or the person she represents in the entire college admissions game). And of course, as the video concluded, maybe her name really was the only leg up in her application.
I know someone who didn't come from a rich family and took all the opportunities offered at my school (which compared to other schools was not a lot) and earned a full need-based scholarship to one the the most prestigious universities. Granted, I'm sure colleges are even more eager to accept a number of students each year to increase the diversity in the upcoming class these days but even then, she had to have been "qualified enough" (what ever that means) and maybe even more so to stand out. My point here is that it is possible.
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Adding to your comment, Brandon, I think anyone reading should carefully think about what pursuing a degree from a certain college means to each of themselves. Will you put all your trust in a degree from the college you can't trust to fairly screen the admissions process? Ask yourself questions, this being another one of them: How much of the process, or how you get there, is important to your own personal goals or is it ultimately just the diploma you want? Ultimately, if you can separate the education from the institution, you will also have to accept that you will have to work harder to stand out.
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Just remember that the line represented the chances that each student had of getting in to a college. It is implied that the girl at the left will get in but she might not because her GPA is so low and could likeley not meet benchmark requirements. (Same goes for the possibility that she does actually meet or exceeds other criteria.)
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For the last part of your comment, I think "good" may have been a better word to use and I say this because I think that for the most part, many of these competitive schools really try to entice students by staffing the most experienced faculty members in each of their respective fields as well as offering additional tools for research opportunities, and other perks to encourage as many students to apply. This is one reason I've considered the prospect of applying to a competitive school. If these benefits significantly outweigh what I can gain without them, then I would side with the possibility that other program might offer a more comprehensive experience in my own specific circumstance.
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I put very much thought into this so as to ensure my message was clear enough to understand! I do apologize for any errors in advance. As for me, I personally applaud anyone who seeks to use formal education as a way to better themselves and believe it can be a very powerful, personal investment. That being said, I do also recognize that learning can take place in other non-traditional settings and will not dismiss the ideas of others as long as they are earnest and constructive in the efforts to help others as well as themselves in moving forward (even if that sometimes means moving backward).
100% you should look at what your career goals are first and then see if you need to get a college degree people nowadays have it backwards they get a college degree and then see what their career goals are with that degree better go to trade school make six figures than have no career goals go to college and major in philosophy with no career goals
I was fortunate to attend an elite college on a scholarship however because the college was not well known outside of academic circles, it did nothing to help my career prospects and I might as well have gone to the local state university.
I hate how 4.1 is In the back the whole time. And the 2.8 girl wins because of her last name.... Absolute bullshit won't way of getting in to a college
Anyone watching this after the Olivia jade scandal?
😂😂
This is plaigarized from Southwest Missouri Community College.
No not really..this is a game many high schools play
tristan jc No, the college plaigarized this. This was posted before the college did the video
This video was made first
Check the dates
No they didnt this was made 2 years prior when southwest Missouri made it
Are you so stupid you can't look at dates?
Why does the Asian kid look so pissed?
Can someone please tell me what is wrong with a premed major.
Sammi Keller right im so lost
Sammi Keller maybe because these majors are impacted?
Sammi Keller there's nothing wrong with it. It's just that it's one of the most popular undergraduate major so you have a harder chance to get in because of competition unlike a major like Greek which isn't that popular
Premed is super popular, along with psychology. So if you apply with that intended major, there's a good change a majority of other people did too, making you less eligible for a spade.
hi ,can somebody explain what is the purpose of this game and why do they do it in college? i am from mexico so we dont have those kinds of games ....
They didn't copy the southwest video, this was the original
Why are people surprised that you have to be well connected to go to college. It has always been this way, pretty much since the inception of the University model.
The idea that other factors, aside from GPA, influence college admission is correct, but the size of the influence is overstated when you only have 8 people participating as opposed to the, what would be, thousands of applicants to a given college
So now we let people just slide right through life because they're a legacy... bullshit
What do you mean "now"? It's been this way since colleges have started. While it sucks this is not a new thing.
idk the legacy thing doesn't bother me too much. If mean, if both parents and all your siblings went to a certain school, I'd (if I was apart of the admissions board) would lean towards admitting that other relative to keep it going. Should the process be revised? Yes, of course. Legacies should only be a very, very small factor in someone's admission -- i.e. if two people had the same exact profile but one was a legacy, I'd admit the legacy.
In most schools, legacy connections are only used to distinguish between two even students. Additionally, if someone is a legacy, they probably are more likely to attend the school and are more likely to enjoy it, so accepting them makes sense.
Now I finally realized that the front of the line is on the left. I was wondering why all the movements were weird and 2 people got "essay of the year."
Me: **watches this video**
**applys to Wake Forrest because my last name is Wakeman**
**gets accepted right away**
Ethan Wakeman haha my brother goes there
Put a girl with the 2.8 over 4.1 seems like your lost
Mac Doesn'tDoit her family contributed to the college thats why
Mac Doesn'tDoit q
They got a library out of that deal tho
Moral of the story: If you work really hard and get good grades and participate in clubs and organizations at school, that's nice, but we don't care. If you have a horrible GPA, don't care about school, and don't apply yourself, but have connections, you get a free pass.
Actually GPA and SAT/ACT matter most but extra curricular‘s do play a important role as well.
"If you participated in a significant community service project, move up one space" Girl in blue moves. "If you achieved Gold Award in Girl Scouts, move up two spaces" One other girl moves. Ok, how did she do that without a community service project!!? That's what a gold award is!
The thing about this is, if the first person in line (highest GPA) has something that applies too, in real life they would move up even if there were no other people ahead of them, causing some with lower GPA unable to catch up.
It depends on the order of the questions. They clearly wanted the 4.1 to be behind the 2.8
1:45 says to sit down however he just walks out.
That is not true. They have cuts on GPA and SAT first. After that they decided who is qualified.
They forgot the affirmative action portion.
lol even the 2.8 GPA girl knew this was a joke hahahaha
“Sports as a metaphor for life” so many kids in my class have done that every personal essay since six grade.
I really wish I watched this when I was still in high school.
I have mostly A's and a couple B's. I am starting high school soon and have been in ABSOLUTELY ZERO extracurricular activities because of my anxiety. I will ask my guidance councilor for help but my parents aren't really the best at handling children with mental illnesses, as I have seen with my sister. I want to make up for all the clubs I've missed and I'm planning to do so this September. A lot has to change, and I'm starting in May by talking to the guidance councilor. I hope that I will be able to present well in high school and I will stop at NOTHING to become a special education teacher!
3 years later... I hope you made it bro
Yo u good
As someone with a 3.78 gpa about to go into senior year this video made me feel a lot better, I don’t know if it should have but I’m giving it my all.
I remembered watching this as a terrified little freshman, and now I’m committed
Your GPA doesn't affect much of if you go to college or not , as long as you meet the requirements
Why is this in my recommended lol but we did this exact thing in my college guide class and I was the girl majoring in Greek
I’m proud of you, guy in orange plaid shirt. Your family is probably proud too
Gotta change my last name to "Gates" just for my dream school to reconsider my application.
When they got to the psychology and premed question I was wondering how strongly that applies to me as I applied to the Nursing schools/programs of colleges so I could dual major in nursing and psychology.
Yeah I have no idea why pre med would put people down the line though. I thought it was in demand.
@@itllbeokay7112 i think its because its more hard to get into those majors
The girl with the lowest GPA and didn't even bother to write an essay is the most likely to get into college because her parents donated. I mean just look at her in this video, she even dresses like she doesn't want to put any effort in. I am not sure what this video is trying to prove.
Sky Guy this is a skit and these are not actually these people's GPAs or circumstances...
damn they gotta show this at all the high schools
And this video came out way before the "varsity blues" scandal. That is the first thing that came to mind when they asked the one about the last name. Donate a ton of money to get a building named after you and you get a free ticket in.
Welp that’s it! You have to be the absolute best at everything and make sure you join 87 school clubs but also get a job because you can’t be lazy but also get good grades because you need to be smart but also academics isn’t everything so make sure you do a lot of community service so you’re a good person and also make sure you get a good sleep and be healthy!
I'm actually someone who has a 2.8 yet I'm the most active and hard work person at my school who wins all the awards and scholarships. Also with numerous job offers.
While my friends who have close to a 4.0 is struggling in life with 0 connections and a poopy job that they complain about all the time. (also never had won any awards or scholarships).
I'm more happy (and in a way successful) compared to them...grades don't matter...at least not as much as what everyone says it to be.
I remember watching this before going to college and hating myself bc I had a 2.7 I worried for nothing
A teacher told me legacy is the factor that beneficially affects your admissions the most because more money is coming to them.
If your last name is gates?
Trikloe basically saying if the school has a building named after someone in your family
Alyssa Munguia oh
Trikloe yeah, cuz shes related to Bill Gates(head of Microsoft) who donated a significant amount of money to the college. Its bullshit
Good thing I’m getting my gold award in Girl Scouts
Hey, what about the Body Mass Index? That should be worth 2 spaces.
What are “enriching summer programs”? I feel like I need to go to one
This is the exact same as the Southwest Mississippi Community College, down to the GPA numbers.
lmao this one was first
This was made first
This does not make sense. The people in the front do not get any opportunities to move up.
MegaDoubleStack Because they are already at the front?
That was the point.
what type of college should you aim for if you are in varsity sports, a 3.85 gpa and fine arts credentials as well as other menial things (community service, jazz band, etc.) (finishing sophomore year)
This is just so true😂
Especially the last prompt
Why did the guy with 4.0 not move up for being in top ten percent of his class?
They said 2%
Alfonso Arciga Because some schools have a lot of really smart people... i’m assuming 4.1 and above are top 10%.
Sydney Richelle most likely
He didn't take his AP classes.
In some high schools, an A in an honors class will count as a 4.5 and an A in an AP class will count as a 5.0.
Out of 4.0.
So the students who took honors and AP throughout high school could easily get higher than a 4.0.
In this video, there was a girl with a 4.1, so I'm assuming this was like that.
can come one explain why they move back a space if they major in physcology or medical?
destiny smith it's because so many people want to get into that field that it's saturated
destiny smith and many people end up dropping premed because its too difficult so they dont want to admit someone whos gonna drop it
To many people take it and a lot drop out
Psychology - because too many people want to major in psychology, and they can only accept so many
Premed - because you shouldn't major in premed. Period. Follow the premed pathway, but under another major to expand your horizons, and ultimately make you a better doctor.
^ I agree. that's why I did a BA instead of BS so I could take humanities courses and not just science courses.
flannel guy had an eventful high school career
i watch this video a lot- it's so interesting
Asks for who has the gold award in Girl Scouts but not for eagle in Boy Scouts? That’s some really bull shit right there.
Whats so great about a major in greek?
Angela Smith It's different, not so many people try to major in Greek like people who major in the medical field. So you'll have a higher chance of getting accepted for going for a less popular career.
its a rarer major to apply for than, like, premed or something, so you have less competition and are more likely to get in.
This video scared me so much because I got a D in AP Human Geo. at the end of my junior year, lol I got into every college I wanted to, so for anyone here watching that’s stressing, don’t worry at all.
Our future needs people who think innovatively and creatively. Not people who score better.
what iffff... my school doesn’t offer sports
Paola Uribe outside of school sports
join a club team.
This is a scripted joke to highlight the ridiculousness of college admissions right?
couldn't have said it better! hahahah
I wonder if American emergency rooms select who's next in a similar manner
ER’s aren’t allowed to deny care based on money tho. Hospitals don’t have to treat poor people, but their ER’s have to
I did not expect that ending. It's the unfortunate reality though.
So basically this is fake, this might not even be their real GPA, but for sure not all of these things they are moving for is true.
Anthony Rodriguez Just letting people know because some people in the comments didn't seem to think so
Rooting for the 2.8 girl cuz I’m basically her
@Mary Golfer sis me too dw about it lmao
I was recommended this 3 years ago and again now🤨
I don't get this. Could someone please explain to me further?
Thanks.
Bruh. "If your last name is gates..." I'm dead.😂
Why is a high school doing this?
Kumi S. to show an example for high school. students by college, it's a little too late
I don't think every school has the EXACT same criteria but pretty much in the same area. Anyone have info on any UCs? (University of California)
I saw that guy in the orange plaid shirt is in Eli Kope's High school gangam style parody video.
so rn I have a 3.57 GPA I played jv soccer this (I'm a freshman) and I'm taking advanced choir if I keep this up I guess I have a pretty good chance of getting into college
Claire is awesome what about a 4.0 GPA, varsity soccer as a freshman:)
And there's also legit colleges that have a 100% acceptance rate
And there's also legit colleges that have a 100% acceptance rate
Claire is awesome 3.57? As a freshmen? Good luck to you
Jonathan Ashton Not really... btw instead of saying that, tell her what she can do to improve, you telling her that won’t help, pretty sure she didn’t come her to have someone throw that in her face
The issue I have with these videos is that you can easily tell by the end of the video that the college added in unrelated questions to move lower gpas up and higher gpas down. The dumb library question gets me every time... that will not help you get into college at all!
Brian Salinas Sadly, it's true. Money and connections are ALWAYS more powerful than a perfect GPA.
It actually makes sense because money and connections are stronger than GPA or test scores. Colleges are a business. Having extracurriculars indicates how much of a well-rounded person you are which is what colleges want. They want people who can contribute to their school and will make an impact on society in the future. This increases the college's prestige. Choosing a less popular major like Greek, as opposed to an extremely popular major like pre-med can give you a higher chance of being admitted.
Yes it will, because money
bruh. if your family donated enough money to get a library named after them, the school will accept the kid in hopes for future donations.....
Yes it defiantly will dont be naive and think that family money contributions and connections wont get you into a college
The perfect student doesn't exi-
Actually it doesn't exist.
Well.... That escalated quickly
I have a 4.2 GPA all honors and 1 ap class so far as a freshmen. I have a part time job and I participated in the robotics team. I do have a little community service work but it's not major mainly with helping out other competitions. No sports yet :P
David Morales ok.....
David Morales Whats your point?
Damn. Too bad colleges only really care about sophomore and junior year, but keep it up and you will literally have no problem getting into a very prestigious university.
David Morales colleges don’t give a fuck until you got that gold award in girl scouts
Narguin Lee I’m actually in a good standing sophomore year. I got 100’s in AP world and honors chemistry and literature. Besides that, I have A’s in all my honors classes and AP stats
All that matters is GPA and SAT/ACT scores. The rest is just a bonus, but doesnt help much. That stuff only matters for scholarships.
Nyah Alexis Of course for huge colleges yes, but if you go to those you really arent that smart because they cost so much. Most people go to non massive colleges anyways so there is reslly no worry. But to say someone with a 2.8 GPA beats someone with a 4.1 is insane.
Zombie Prodigy it is possible for someone with a 2.8 gpa to best someone with a 4.1 bc in this video she had connections so she obviously went to the front but they would most likely get into the same school
I played along and got 2nd in line at the end because of the gates girl lol
Alright then, forget getting a 4.0 that I worked my ass off! Let me slack off and I will be able to go to a good college