I don't really need to upgrade for a while so I'm gonna skip that generation and wait for the Ryzen Super Duper AI+ Max 1234 XTX HS EDIT: Actually might wait till they launch the X3D version of those chips.
A worrying trend across west . Bastardisation of consumer protection laws equals fat corporations who donate to political friends .😂 Outcome ? Mad Max. Corporate rule and born to corporation slaves . PERFECT
I don't get how thats even a good idea. For instance that 4070 GDDR6 non-X variant being only 10 dollars less than the X card has literally no reason to exist. All this does is cause a confused consumer to buy it and think "well 4070 sucks why is everyone saying it's good?" . This misunderstanding is Nvidia's fault, not the consumers
1:15 That Ryzen 5 7520U is the biggest scam right there, it's quad core Zen2 with single channel memory being sold as Ryzen 7000, Intel also has low end CPUs but I don't think they have ever released an "i5" with single channel. It's an Athlon/Pentium tier product.
You sure it's single channel? Tech Power up says is dual channel... however I do agree a Zen 2 processor being called a 7th gen is really scummy! AMD's site also says 2x1R LPDDR5-5500 so that dual channel single rank.
Also uses the “6nm” process that the “better” processors use. It’s way geared to power efficiency and smoothness of the system but graphics is not its forte. Architecture is not the whole story but any laptop with 8gb ram today is troll at least 16gb is acceptable.
@@ProfestionalCrayonEater proper Ryzen 7000 chips are built on 4nm or 5nm, the 6nm node is low budget. Also for this SKU 16GB is the maximum supported capacity.
How to become rich 🤑: 1. Confuse your customer to the extent they ask you for recommendations. 2. Manipulate them into buying something that's way above their requirement. 3. Change your strategies with time to keep the cycle running. There you go now you are RICH 👏
I bought a Snapdragon laptop, big mistake, sent back cause of software compatibility problems. I got a Asus S16 ryzen ai hx 370 laptop. Awesome machine
The speed and amount of my internet is limited and when the ad comes on the PC, all the video has to be loaded from the beginning, it's been a lot of crap on RUclips these few years.@@vextakes
Tbh Super is a refresh, but making cards slower with the same name or almost the same name is complete bs. Gov should penalize them for that. With notebooks there is also issue with how much Wat GPU has, there are massive difference in performance but in specs you have the same gpu listed.
@@teamacio9043 its because it needs support of developers,if it had an established and practically viable software stack like Nvidia,i promise you the focus on open source would have taken a backseat.
I am use to the Ryzen 5,7,9 4 digit naming convention like Ryzen 7 7800x3d is simple to understand; but they use AI hype names sux that both Intel and AMD do this, you are so right Vex. Back when you had Motorola 68000, 68020, etc and Intel 8086, 286, 386 it was real simple to understand what the cpu can do.
1:10 You forgot that there are also us: passionates, who don't know who each Kardashaian or Jenner is, but who can quote clock speed on each new Ryzen, Intel, or GPUs... The nerdy folks who can explain the differnece between 5800x, 5800xt and 5800x3d, while knowing nothing about Premier League or other TikTok trends. i know him, He's me.
5800x is just 4,7ghz 8 core with smt. the 5800XT comes with a cooler and 4,8ghz clock instead of 4,7 and the 5800x3D has alot of Level 3 Cache compared to the others. 96MB to be exact. Now whos this Kardashian? Is that a Processor from India?
I dont know if bro does not know it, but the chinese brands like xiomee, oppo, etc etc. pioneered this namibg scheme, which used it moderately at that time. And the apple started using it too.
Could you imagine if they kept the "4080 12Gb" name instead of changing to the 4070 Ti? What would they have called the 4070 Ti Super, the 4080 12Gb 16Gb?
Specs of Ryzen AI 390 aren't all that bad. With 40 CU, it's going to have the same FP16 performance as NVidia 4070, that is 30 TFlops. As far as FP32 is concerned, NVidia 4070 keeps the same 30 TFlops, Ryzen AI 390 is going to have only half of that. It's going to be interesting to see how these numbers (30Tflop FP16, 15TFlop FP32) are going to translate into real world performance.
This is so dumb for business, here's what's going to happen Most people will not be able to tell what they are buying anymore just looking at the pc with the highest CPU number So they will google "best laptop" and look for top 10 lists or review videos from tech channels And those those top lists and review videos always talk about the same laptop over and over, so most people are only gonna buy those ones Since people are only gonna buy those ones, all other manufacturers will sell a lot less laptops, and since they sell a lot less they buy a lot less CPU from Intel and AMD So in the end this will not only hurt the consumer, but also the laptop manufacturers and Intel and AMD themselves
You can't compare Apple and Intel or AMD. Because you first need to know what programs you want to use, then you see where they are available. Maybe a tablet is enough - for browsing the web and watching RUclips. Or a phone when a small screen is enough - or you want it portable ;-) Or a gaming computer, well, Apple would not make so much sense there. A gaming console... Wait a moment, do you want to do other things too than only gaming, that need a powerful computer? Then go to a gaming computer instead of a gaming console.
As if big tech product naming wasn't bad enough already, prebuilt companies compound this problem by omitting SO MANY details about the parts that you're getting. They will not tell you if their listing is "RTX 4070" if you're getting a 4070 GDDR6 or GDDR6X. They won't even bother to list the brand of 4070 you're getting, and most likely, it'll be the cheapest one they can slap in a build while still being able to stamp "4070" on it. With how bad all this naming is, your best bet is to just Google everything you see, and compare them using results from trusted sources. The age of being able to compare CPUs by their name alone is dead.
Comparing minute details is exactly what I do when searching for a new graphical processing unit for the exact reasons your comment depicts. Research is always worth it as without it disappointment is inevitable.
Naw bro. The future is full of humanity learning that we've never been along and life is much stranger than we've been told. It's bout to get real bro.
Proud trash owner. Just like the average Asus product. Overpriced for usually no better performance or no better performance than someone cannot achieve by changing his settings to them
My next pc: AMD AI max+ 375 ultra+ super v2, budget nVidia 5080 ti super 8gb vison OC rev.2 DDR6 non +, but guys, the monitor!! AOC agony 32U4xpq -RQz 726 (updated 2026 version z726 with 6aoc924 Q32 afirmaware!!) Ts awesome.
This reminds me of a situation 10 years ago when you were trying to choose an i5 powered laptop and saw 100's of cpu titles half of them are literally comparable to a desktop celeron and shouldn't be called i5.
I want an Extreme Ultra Pro Max Ti 9001++++!!!!11! XXXXXXX XT V3 Gaming Edition XL gen5 AI Platinum Republic of Extremity Fck the whole alphabet Celebrity version. It needs to have cool lights on it, and match my drapes. Seriously though, I have a _little_ bit of sympathy for the makers (operative word "little") because 99 year copyright law isn't really keeping pace and its probably hard to find a product name that isn't someone else's intellectual property.
It "all went wrong" when AMD decided to play the coward in its Ryzen launch, and copied Intel directly with a 5, 7 and 9 range, instead of numbers that relate to the core count. Then they messed up calling their Laptop range CPU's inbetween the desktop variants. AMD also copied Nvidia's stupid 0000 ranges, forgetting before the RX5700 XT, there was no 4000 range for them to keep copying Nvidia. It's AMD's fault for being cowards, and not breaking away from the stupid Nvidia and Intel's ranges. AMD could have set themselves apart, especially with how well Ryzen performed, but no, they still have zero confidence in their own product ranges without copying Intel.
Few years ago I bought a motherboard for my new i5 9400f cpu which had an FCLGA1151 socket. But listen to this! The cpu needs the VERSION 2 of the same socket and it's NOT COMPATIBLE with the first version. Both sockets have the SAME NAME! FCLGA1151 vs FCLGA1151 v2. Marketing people at Intel are geniuses too!
Thing is just like nanometer Shrinks, processor companies are running out of names as well so they resort to rebranding or reshuffling the words to make some sense or i say YOLO them names. This got me, 7800x 3d is 8core, 7840HS is 8 core, made sense, 7840HX 12 core. then 7840U 8core then they have 7845HX with 12 core. i am confused now. Also Apple plays with words, while amd, intel have to shove a word and number then symbol. its like making RNG password.
Apple setting a good example? Yea sure, I hope the next gen of NVidia GPU has a RTX 5 (=5080) for $1199 RTX 5 Plus (=5080 Ti) for $1499 RTX 5 Pro (=5090) for $1999 RTX 5 Pro Max (=5090 Ti) for $2499 Oh you want a GPU that's less than $1000? Too bad.
It sucks that when I buy a GPU I need to triple check everything including the V-ram type/ amount/ speed, bus width, two types of core counts, clock speeds, etc. and that's after comparing the "series" and looking into board partners, but still before looking into the cooling/ hardware side (heat sink design, fans, connections). I know people who RMA'd a GPU and got a slightly different card (better or worse) because even the manufacturer can't remember if it was the "X Gaming Super Slim" or the "X Gaming Super OC". It's just crazy 🤣
I just bought a laptop. I've got 30 years of PC experience. It was a complete mess to decypher, research and figure out what CPU is currently worth buying. In the end I landed on get a zen 4 chip. Ditch everything else. So a 7x4x. Or 8x4x. The third number has to be 4. 8845hs, 7840hs etc. U for low wattage. Intel aren't great for laptops currently. Only the new Lunar Lake.
6:35 well AX in end of name means wifi ax support and bluetouth, gaming x =gaming extanded XD. I have gigabyte b550 auros pro (v1) its better than low budget x670 and even x570, there is a loot of motherbords have so bad VRMs that I can not sure if they can handle overclock.
So why is this happening you may be asking? It comes down to what business is as a phenomenon. At the end of the day every business only has two objectives. 1) To maximize profits. 2) To minimize costs. The bigger the business, the more ruthlessly they pursue these objectives. What drives the requirement for profit? Growth, because if there's not profit there's no growth. And because the monetary system requires growth to continue running, here we are. Not only that but because there is a requirement for growth, there must also be growth for that growth and growth for that growth of growth etc. That's where inflation comes from. It's the system.
There is a reason why many of the components could be defined differently and their purpose is not only meant to be a slower device, yeah you are right there is just stupid marketing branding, but look at it at different perspective, Like literally Apple's M3/PRO/MAX right, there are only three of them, what if I want something in between m3 and pro slightly better and slightly more expensive. and honestly I really appreciate that we have different models, different purposes for the models, the only thing that could be adjusted is the easier component search up, for people that do not intend to invest their time in searching for hundred of combinations that could result in better performance or literally better in terms of cost.
As user-friendly as Apple's naming scheme may be by stating the number of cores clearly, do people actually know how many they NEED? I am a nerd who has been building PCs since the early 1990s but I can't tell how demanding Mac software actually is. So the use of such core numbers is at best half as useful as it seems.
There's a bit of complication because it's a complicated situation. Imagine it just said intel 14+, that's only 2 data points two learn about the product. I feel like this is what people who can't focus on all of that, in which case you ask a friend who knows. Enjoy your monopoly fetish. Non-homogenous environments produce the best results.
Now decoding such corporate bullsh*t is full-time job. Even experienced sales person has hard time to swim out such jumble of cryptic names. Ordinary consumer can not comprehend such mess. They intentionally confuse the consumer so that they can profit from such confusion. Even tech-savvy consumer falls into such evil trap.
Nice seeing this addressed,. Then there are the scalpers on graphic cards. To add on laptops, you then have to check the USB C ports which exist in several variations as well, HDMI standards, USB ports mess (if they have a few left)....
Something that you forget to point out with the Apple M3 chips at 9:07 you can clearly see two M3 pro chips side by side with different core counts. Apple is just as bad if not worse than any other company when it comes to obfuscating performance tiers with their naming conventions. The m3 pro chips also have less memory bandwidth than the m2 pro and I believe the m1 pro as well. Sometimes information gets lost if the naming scheme is overly simplified.
*Inhales deep* Can you smell that? It's the fresh smell of the good old familiar marketing bullshit with the naming schemes. Someone needs to make a hardware naming scheme equivalent of the duty calls parody. Or, alternatively fire the fucking marketing department.
I'm not gonna lie, when I first got into custom PCs I got a 1650 pre-build over a 1080ti all because they were priced the same and the 1650 was a bigger number (thus sounding better). So I definitely can relate to this and I wasn't even a total tech illiterate at the time either.
Its why people who arent tech savvy and just know it works would buy apple laptops because they know what they're getting. If they are getting the air version, they know they are getting the entry level of their laptops, if they're getting the pro version they know they're getting the high end tier of their laptops. The chip and spec configuration is easy to understand like what vex said, not necessarily mean they are valuable or apple doesnt do shady stuff but when it comes to naming their products they got it right mostly. It is also why they have a big global market share by brand shares in laptop statistics.
Well they have to name them somehow. And people want choice so what would your solution of naming their products be? 🤷♂ I don't care about naming at all. I just look at benchmarks and specs and remember which cpu/gpu does what. They might as wel be a serial number I don't care 😅
Honestly most consumers don't care how it is naming, people care is it new released and just know bigger number = higher price = higher performance, that is, although it is not always truth but most people don't want to learn and they don't buy tech product frequently.
Needs regulation there so much anti competitive behaviour , price fixing, stock/supply manipulation it unbelievable- what any regulatory authorities are doing I don’t know take money to look the other way it seems - be smart and informed people 😮
Price patterns seem to be the center of attention for everyone, while volume is typically ignored. I've been learning more about it, and I think that technical analysis is greatly improved by understanding volume with price action!
You know what's the worst part? Meteor Lake with a better looking naming scheme has way worse perfomance than Raptor Lake mobile. I watched benchmarks and my 12th i7 K series chip is still faster than those laptop chips.
the american government shouldve allowed nvidia to buy ARM so we wouldn't have to deal with these other clown companies anymore intel and amd have lost it completely these days
Well that happened to ne when buying a laptop 7-8years ago with the 1050 laptop model i ended up buying the 2 gb vram version of the 1050 instead of the 4 gb version
This is some of the worst thing in modern culture. if you are are rich and smart, you can go out and buy the best possible products and they just work together most of the time. If you are on a budget, you litterally have to make yourself less intelligent to get a deal.
Any computer in the store is likely a few months old sitting on the shelves. It’s not that new. New CPUs take months to reach mass production. So they are likely to be last generation as the companies announce new products.
This is crass obfuscation taken to it's logical conclusion. It demonstrates an utter contempt for the needs of the customer. Governments should take their hands out of these corporate pockets and legislate in defense of the consumer. Ha! Fat chance!
If you do not understand the naming, why don't you make a research on that instead of throwing sounds? Nobody will ask why someone's name is like this or that and they don't understand it.. Regards.
Naming doesn't matter for the average person. They see bigger number better and more descriptors, Tis, XTs, and +s and get the gist of the products performance.
Your average consumer should be using AI bot workflows so that they can be informed, these workflows can easily be shared and will get better with time.
The reason many manufacturers stick to this naming scheme it's for marketing purposes Why have 3 products that can be easily scrolled by on amazon when u can have 20-30 products filling the entire page
Lowering specs on products with the same names after reviews, is some of the shittiest tactics in tech. Always call this BS out so customers don't get screwed over.
Wait till the gov takes our money and says u can't buy a pc anymore ur spending to much.y guys better get ready our play days and every thing else almost over.😢
Welcome to the future. In 2025 we have the Ryzen deluxe AI Overlord 9000 3D HX XT 3465.
😂😂
I don't really need to upgrade for a while so I'm gonna skip that generation and wait for the Ryzen Super Duper AI+ Max 1234 XTX HS
EDIT: Actually might wait till they launch the X3D version of those chips.
Ooo deluxe is a good one
Ryzen 4070
@@vextakes creamy 😏😏
I think these companies like to keep these confusing names on purpose to sell old stock to people that don't know much about computers.
Yes.
Also 0:31
Bingo! Always has been
You think? We could prove it in court lol
A worrying trend across west . Bastardisation of consumer protection laws equals fat corporations who donate to political friends .😂 Outcome ? Mad Max. Corporate rule and born to corporation slaves . PERFECT
Monitor names : pfffffff amateurs
Executive: How do we sell our new product?
marketing: ...just trick 'em!
I don't get how thats even a good idea. For instance that 4070 GDDR6 non-X variant being only 10 dollars less than the X card has literally no reason to exist. All this does is cause a confused consumer to buy it and think "well 4070 sucks why is everyone saying it's good?" . This misunderstanding is Nvidia's fault, not the consumers
We lost this battle half a decade ago, possibly earlier. At the moment just choose your greedy colour Red, green or blue and accept your fate😂
We lost this battle before we were born to marketing.
or built a pc. hopefully pc naming sense still sane..
The world lived through 10 years of Intel quad core from 2007 to 2017 🤮
The AX in mainboard names is literally because they support WiFi AX. Gigabyte, ASUS and MSI didn't come up with that name.
but eh their other boards also have those features but they don't put it in those
Ryzen 4070 ti super xtx x3d pro max ultra Deluxe gddr69 6gb vram
Pro Max?
gddr6
I actually have that GPU
1:15 That Ryzen 5 7520U is the biggest scam right there, it's quad core Zen2 with single channel memory being sold as Ryzen 7000, Intel also has low end CPUs but I don't think they have ever released an "i5" with single channel. It's an Athlon/Pentium tier product.
You sure it's single channel? Tech Power up says is dual channel... however I do agree a Zen 2 processor being called a 7th gen is really scummy!
AMD's site also says 2x1R LPDDR5-5500 so that dual channel single rank.
Should be called the Ryzen 3400U... if not for the DDR5, that confuses things.
Also uses the “6nm” process that the “better” processors use. It’s way geared to power efficiency and smoothness of the system but graphics is not its forte. Architecture is not the whole story but any laptop with 8gb ram today is troll at least 16gb is acceptable.
@@ProfestionalCrayonEater proper Ryzen 7000 chips are built on 4nm or 5nm, the 6nm node is low budget. Also for this SKU 16GB is the maximum supported capacity.
@@Dazzxp DDR5 kinda turns into dual channell when you have only one DIMM, the memory bandwidth is still halved.
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I am now RICH following Sus_Bak method. I'm also getting investigated by the FTC
NVIDIA
I bought a Snapdragon laptop, big mistake, sent back cause of software compatibility problems. I got a Asus S16 ryzen ai hx 370 laptop. Awesome machine
RUclips is getting ridiculous, 8 ads in 16 minutes
Firefox + Ublock origin bro
Really?
Just get youtube premium man, best decision I have made in 2022 lol
The speed and amount of my internet is limited and when the ad comes on the PC, all the video has to be loaded from the beginning, it's been a lot of crap on RUclips these few years.@@vextakes
use dns that block some ads,
We LOVE YOU VEX ♥️
GG on being first
FR. He's the goat.
Honestly we should normalize calling the new Core Ultra chips i9-285K/i7-265K. It'll be better for all of us.
Or force the i9 15900k and i7 15700k
@@Chicken-o5e or the i9 15285K and i7 15265k
I feel like governments should release an international law or something that would make CPU companies name the processors in a more comprehensive way
Tbh Super is a refresh, but making cards slower with the same name or almost the same name is complete bs. Gov should penalize them for that.
With notebooks there is also issue with how much Wat GPU has, there are massive difference in performance but in specs you have the same gpu listed.
As people have been rightly saying,AMD is not your friend they'll try their best to get every ounce they can,no better than Intel.
Its better then Nvidia because it makes open source software unlike Nvidia
@@teamacio9043 its because it needs support of developers,if it had an established and practically viable software stack like Nvidia,i promise you the focus on open source would have taken a backseat.
@@boltez6507 Sure, but for now that's not the case making them better
you played the intel jingle which was introduced under the Pentium brand not the Core i brand.....
I am such a geek, I'll see my self out...
I am use to the Ryzen 5,7,9 4 digit naming convention like Ryzen 7 7800x3d is simple to understand; but they use AI hype names sux that both Intel and AMD do this, you are so right Vex. Back when you had Motorola 68000, 68020, etc and Intel 8086, 286, 386 it was real simple to understand what the cpu can do.
1:10
You forgot that there are also us: passionates, who don't know who each Kardashaian or Jenner is, but who can quote clock speed on each new Ryzen, Intel, or GPUs...
The nerdy folks who can explain the differnece between 5800x, 5800xt and 5800x3d, while knowing nothing about Premier League or other TikTok trends.
i know him, He's me.
5800x is just 4,7ghz 8 core with smt. the 5800XT comes with a cooler and 4,8ghz clock instead of 4,7 and the 5800x3D has alot of Level 3 Cache compared to the others. 96MB to be exact. Now whos this Kardashian? Is that a Processor from India?
I dont know if bro does not know it, but the chinese brands like xiomee, oppo, etc etc. pioneered this namibg scheme, which used it moderately at that time. And the apple started using it too.
Can't wait for my Rtx Gluck Gluck 5000 AI ultra Max
Gluck Gluck 5000? I'm sold
Glug or gluck? Cuzz. Those r diff lol
Could you imagine if they kept the "4080 12Gb" name instead of changing to the 4070 Ti? What would they have called the 4070 Ti Super, the 4080 12Gb 16Gb?
4080 12gb 16gb lmao and the 4080 would be the 4080 ti? It tracks for Nvidia to do the opposite of convention and logic.
Specs of Ryzen AI 390 aren't all that bad. With 40 CU, it's going to have the same FP16 performance as NVidia 4070, that is 30 TFlops. As far as FP32 is concerned, NVidia 4070 keeps the same 30 TFlops, Ryzen AI 390 is going to have only half of that.
It's going to be interesting to see how these numbers (30Tflop FP16, 15TFlop FP32) are going to translate into real world performance.
This is so dumb for business, here's what's going to happen
Most people will not be able to tell what they are buying anymore just looking at the pc with the highest CPU number
So they will google "best laptop" and look for top 10 lists or review videos from tech channels
And those those top lists and review videos always talk about the same laptop over and over, so most people are only gonna buy those ones
Since people are only gonna buy those ones, all other manufacturers will sell a lot less laptops, and since they sell a lot less they buy a lot less CPU from Intel and AMD
So in the end this will not only hurt the consumer, but also the laptop manufacturers and Intel and AMD themselves
I don't really blame the tech companies themselves. This is all the horror of marketing and EVERY industry suffers it's sickness.
You can't compare Apple and Intel or AMD. Because you first need to know what programs you want to use, then you see where they are available.
Maybe a tablet is enough - for browsing the web and watching RUclips. Or a phone when a small screen is enough - or you want it portable ;-)
Or a gaming computer, well, Apple would not make so much sense there.
A gaming console... Wait a moment, do you want to do other things too than only gaming, that need a powerful computer? Then go to a gaming computer instead of a gaming console.
The "ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OG OC Edition Gaming" is a lot of words to tell us that it's 0.8% faster over the reference card.
Jarrod`s Tech is saviour when it comes to buying a laptop
F-K AMD and Intel names, absolute waste of time and energy, frustrating, infuriating
Man, it's not that difficult, if someone is going to spend a lot of money in something and they don't do research... What you expect?
7:17 it has a built-in air conditioner
you're welcome
Hey Vex whats your thoughts on rainworld?
AX/AC just means it has Wifi (AX = wifi 6)
0:30 the MLG montage screams were perfect
As if big tech product naming wasn't bad enough already, prebuilt companies compound this problem by omitting SO MANY details about the parts that you're getting.
They will not tell you if their listing is "RTX 4070" if you're getting a 4070 GDDR6 or GDDR6X. They won't even bother to list the brand of 4070 you're getting, and most likely, it'll be the cheapest one they can slap in a build while still being able to stamp "4070" on it.
With how bad all this naming is, your best bet is to just Google everything you see, and compare them using results from trusted sources. The age of being able to compare CPUs by their name alone is dead.
Comparing minute details is exactly what I do when searching for a new graphical processing unit for the exact reasons your comment depicts.
Research is always worth it as without it disappointment is inevitable.
the future is proving to be extremely lame
Naw bro. The future is full of humanity learning that we've never been along and life is much stranger than we've been told. It's bout to get real bro.
I am a proud TUF 3060 owner so dont hurt him :/. Good content tho!
Proud trash owner. Just like the average Asus product. Overpriced for usually no better performance or no better performance than someone cannot achieve by changing his settings to them
My next pc: AMD AI max+ 375 ultra+ super v2, budget nVidia 5080 ti super 8gb vison OC rev.2 DDR6 non +, but guys, the monitor!! AOC agony 32U4xpq -RQz 726 (updated 2026 version z726 with 6aoc924 Q32 afirmaware!!) Ts awesome.
about to buy the AMD i12 RTX 60+ 10 but the backwards edition, you know... the gold foil one with the TMZ Stamp on the AI logic transfunctioner
This reminds me of a situation 10 years ago when you were trying to choose an i5 powered laptop and saw 100's of cpu titles half of them are literally comparable to a desktop celeron and shouldn't be called i5.
THERE'S A CAT ON THE BED!
W cat.
just search what node it was manufactured...if it's not the latest semiconductor tech, it's probably a rehash.
They're going to regret it. No one is going to buy the new desktop parts because no one is going to know what they are.
they literally released the HX 375 as an HP omnibook exclusive and that comes with a 60hz screen
I want an Extreme Ultra Pro Max Ti 9001++++!!!!11! XXXXXXX XT V3 Gaming Edition XL gen5 AI Platinum Republic of Extremity Fck the whole alphabet Celebrity version.
It needs to have cool lights on it, and match my drapes.
Seriously though, I have a _little_ bit of sympathy for the makers (operative word "little") because 99 year copyright law isn't really keeping pace and its probably hard to find a product name that isn't someone else's intellectual property.
It "all went wrong" when AMD decided to play the coward in its Ryzen launch, and copied Intel directly with a 5, 7 and 9 range, instead of numbers that relate to the core count. Then they messed up calling their Laptop range CPU's inbetween the desktop variants. AMD also copied Nvidia's stupid 0000 ranges, forgetting before the RX5700 XT, there was no 4000 range for them to keep copying Nvidia. It's AMD's fault for being cowards, and not breaking away from the stupid Nvidia and Intel's ranges. AMD could have set themselves apart, especially with how well Ryzen performed, but no, they still have zero confidence in their own product ranges without copying Intel.
Few years ago I bought a motherboard for my new i5 9400f cpu which had an FCLGA1151 socket. But listen to this! The cpu needs the VERSION 2 of the same socket and it's NOT COMPATIBLE with the first version. Both sockets have the SAME NAME! FCLGA1151 vs FCLGA1151 v2. Marketing people at Intel are geniuses too!
Thing is just like nanometer Shrinks, processor companies are running out of names as well so they resort to rebranding or reshuffling the words to make some sense or i say YOLO them names.
This got me, 7800x 3d is 8core, 7840HS is 8 core, made sense, 7840HX 12 core. then 7840U 8core then they have 7845HX with 12 core. i am confused now.
Also Apple plays with words, while amd, intel have to shove a word and number then symbol. its like making RNG password.
Apple setting a good example?
Yea sure, I hope the next gen of NVidia GPU has a
RTX 5 (=5080) for $1199
RTX 5 Plus (=5080 Ti) for $1499
RTX 5 Pro (=5090) for $1999
RTX 5 Pro Max (=5090 Ti) for $2499
Oh you want a GPU that's less than $1000? Too bad.
It sucks that when I buy a GPU I need to triple check everything including the V-ram type/ amount/ speed, bus width, two types of core counts, clock speeds, etc. and that's after comparing the "series" and looking into board partners, but still before looking into the cooling/ hardware side (heat sink design, fans, connections).
I know people who RMA'd a GPU and got a slightly different card (better or worse) because even the manufacturer can't remember if it was the "X Gaming Super Slim" or the "X Gaming Super OC". It's just crazy 🤣
I just bought a laptop. I've got 30 years of PC experience. It was a complete mess to decypher, research and figure out what CPU is currently worth buying. In the end I landed on get a zen 4 chip. Ditch everything else. So a 7x4x. Or 8x4x. The third number has to be 4. 8845hs, 7840hs etc. U for low wattage. Intel aren't great for laptops currently. Only the new Lunar Lake.
6:35 well AX in end of name means wifi ax support and bluetouth, gaming x =gaming extanded XD.
I have gigabyte b550 auros pro (v1) its better than low budget x670 and even x570, there is a loot of motherbords have so bad VRMs that I can not sure if they can handle overclock.
So why is this happening you may be asking? It comes down to what business is as a phenomenon. At the end of the day every business only has two objectives. 1) To maximize profits. 2) To minimize costs. The bigger the business, the more ruthlessly they pursue these objectives. What drives the requirement for profit? Growth, because if there's not profit there's no growth. And because the monetary system requires growth to continue running, here we are.
Not only that but because there is a requirement for growth, there must also be growth for that growth and growth for that growth of growth etc. That's where inflation comes from.
It's the system.
There is a reason why many of the components could be defined differently and their purpose is not only meant to be a slower device, yeah you are right there is just stupid marketing branding, but look at it at different perspective, Like literally Apple's M3/PRO/MAX right, there are only three of them, what if I want something in between m3 and pro slightly better and slightly more expensive. and honestly I really appreciate that we have different models, different purposes for the models, the only thing that could be adjusted is the easier component search up, for people that do not intend to invest their time in searching for hundred of combinations that could result in better performance or literally better in terms of cost.
As user-friendly as Apple's naming scheme may be by stating the number of cores clearly, do people actually know how many they NEED? I am a nerd who has been building PCs since the early 1990s but I can't tell how demanding Mac software actually is. So the use of such core numbers is at best half as useful as it seems.
There's a bit of complication because it's a complicated situation. Imagine it just said intel 14+, that's only 2 data points two learn about the product. I feel like this is what people who can't focus on all of that, in which case you ask a friend who knows. Enjoy your monopoly fetish. Non-homogenous environments produce the best results.
Now decoding such corporate bullsh*t is full-time job. Even experienced sales person has hard time to swim out such jumble of cryptic names. Ordinary consumer can not comprehend such mess. They intentionally confuse the consumer so that they can profit from such confusion. Even tech-savvy consumer falls into such evil trap.
Nice seeing this addressed,. Then there are the scalpers on graphic cards. To add on laptops, you then have to check the USB C ports which exist in several variations as well, HDMI standards, USB ports mess (if they have a few left)....
Something that you forget to point out with the Apple M3 chips at 9:07 you can clearly see two M3 pro chips side by side with different core counts. Apple is just as bad if not worse than any other company when it comes to obfuscating performance tiers with their naming conventions. The m3 pro chips also have less memory bandwidth than the m2 pro and I believe the m1 pro as well. Sometimes information gets lost if the naming scheme is overly simplified.
*Inhales deep* Can you smell that? It's the fresh smell of the good old familiar marketing bullshit with the naming schemes. Someone needs to make a hardware naming scheme equivalent of the duty calls parody. Or, alternatively fire the fucking marketing department.
I'm not gonna lie, when I first got into custom PCs I got a 1650 pre-build over a 1080ti all because they were priced the same and the 1650 was a bigger number (thus sounding better). So I definitely can relate to this and I wasn't even a total tech illiterate at the time either.
Its why people who arent tech savvy and just know it works would buy apple laptops because they know what they're getting. If they are getting the air version, they know they are getting the entry level of their laptops, if they're getting the pro version they know they're getting the high end tier of their laptops. The chip and spec configuration is easy to understand like what vex said, not necessarily mean they are valuable or apple doesnt do shady stuff but when it comes to naming their products they got it right mostly. It is also why they have a big global market share by brand shares in laptop statistics.
Well they have to name them somehow. And people want choice so what would your solution of naming their products be? 🤷♂
I don't care about naming at all. I just look at benchmarks and specs and remember which cpu/gpu does what. They might as wel be a serial number I don't care 😅
Honestly most consumers don't care how it is naming, people care is it new released and just know bigger number = higher price = higher performance, that is, although it is not always truth but most people don't want to learn and they don't buy tech product frequently.
Needs regulation there so much anti competitive behaviour , price fixing, stock/supply manipulation it unbelievable- what any regulatory authorities are doing I don’t know take money to look the other way it seems - be smart and informed people 😮
Price patterns seem to be the center of attention for everyone, while volume is typically ignored. I've been learning more about it, and I think that technical analysis is greatly improved by understanding volume with price action!
You know what's the worst part?
Meteor Lake with a better looking naming scheme has way worse perfomance than Raptor Lake mobile.
I watched benchmarks and my 12th i7 K series chip is still faster than those laptop chips.
I can't wait for the RADEON XRXXRRXXX 5324 TTTXXXXXXXXXTTHD v2 RGB AI!!!!!!!!!!!
the american government shouldve allowed nvidia to buy ARM so we wouldn't have to deal with these other clown companies anymore intel and amd have lost it completely these days
Well that happened to ne when buying a laptop 7-8years ago with the 1050 laptop model i ended up buying the 2 gb vram version of the 1050 instead of the 4 gb version
This is some of the worst thing in modern culture. if you are are rich and smart, you can go out and buy the best possible products and they just work together most of the time.
If you are on a budget, you litterally have to make yourself less intelligent to get a deal.
Any computer in the store is likely a few months old sitting on the shelves. It’s not that new. New CPUs take months to reach mass production. So they are likely to be last generation as the companies announce new products.
This is crass obfuscation taken to it's logical conclusion.
It demonstrates an utter contempt for the needs of the customer.
Governments should take their hands out of these corporate pockets and legislate in defense of the consumer.
Ha! Fat chance!
I think they should rediscover the term MEGA and probably paint it cheap silver colour shade of old hi-fi's, (even though it is silver already).
And still nobody is talking about AMD rebranding their GPUs for the 3rd or 4th time without changing aynthing except overclocking it
If you do not understand the naming, why don't you make a research on that instead of throwing sounds? Nobody will ask why someone's name is like this or that and they don't understand it.. Regards.
Naming doesn't matter for the average person. They see bigger number better and more descriptors, Tis, XTs, and +s and get the gist of the products performance.
Your average consumer should be using AI bot workflows so that they can be informed, these workflows can easily be shared and will get better with time.
The reason many manufacturers stick to this naming scheme it's for marketing purposes
Why have 3 products that can be easily scrolled by on amazon when u can have 20-30 products filling the entire page
I can't find L1/2/3 cache sizes for "Ryzen AI 300" series, but if it's the usual 16mb L3, chuck that shit right into the garbage can.
Lower SKUs are failed higher SKU chips. Instead of scraping those, they now sell those. Even really low SKUs.
Lowering specs on products with the same names after reviews, is some of the shittiest tactics in tech. Always call this BS out so customers don't get screwed over.
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I think he thought he was Linus for a sec
It's crazy that Ryzen also followed Intel's lead with these confusing naming schemes for their mobile CPUs.
Wait till the gov takes our money and says u can't buy a pc anymore ur spending to much.y guys better get ready our play days and every thing else almost over.😢
hey its gonna make tech youtubers work harder but also make us Consumers rely even more on your testings so guess its a win for ya with more work.
*It can't get anymore confusing and crazy.* Meanwhile at Intel and AMD: *Hold my fucking Beer.*
I never thought Apple would actually be fair with their pricing, or at the very least CONSISTENT
My monitor have 2 versions but same name...only difference is 10bit panel is 31"5 and 8bit is 32"
These names are just stupid specially if you need a decoder to figure out what you are buying.
The monitor name issue is so bad that neither of my monitors exist on google and I can only find people talking about different ones
I'm actually using an engineering sample of AMD Ai 9 Gigachad x5d Ohio Final Edition
Apple (soldered components) and Xbox (paid online) got away with it, everyone follows
Can 14:12 go viral plz "Ooga booga booga kinda stuff" 😂
Apple just tries to screw you simply. Rather than in a complex and confusing fashion.
Maybe we'll have ryzen Ultime Deluxe Gold and director's cut edition, who knows?
Literally using Random Password Generators to name their products.
As a fellow boomer, I too hate that we went from the simple "Computer" to all these numbers, makes the aged head hurt.
So I'm not just stupid, you just aren't supposed to know what ryzen cpus are from the name.
Well they want to help even if it is hard to trust them. Even on a budget you can have a new powerfull system.
yep products name is stupid. like usb for some reason kept renaming older part to newer part .