Is a CHEAP BMW V10 supercar a bad idea? 2006 E63 M6!
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Join along as we break down if buying a cheap high milage V10 E60/E61/E63/E64 BMW m5/m6 was a TERRIBLE idea!
0:00 Intro
0:28 The coolest car available for 16,000 CAD
0:50 F1 derived V10 M6 engine
2:23 S85 engine reliability issues and common problems
4:28 V10 M6 transmission options and SMG issues
5:40 Why did I buy an e63 or e64 m6?
6:50 BMW v10 E63 M6 exterior features
7:42 E63 M6 interior options and features
10:10 M6 modifications and plans!
11:00 Is an E60, E61, E63, or E64 v10 M5/M6 a good purchase?
11:33 Jaguar Update!
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Excited! Not enough high quality E63 content on RUclips
Thanks man! IDK about high quality, but we sure tryin!
My story with the V10 M6 dates back to 7 years ago when I was in the States for college. One early afternoon during summer break just after lunch, I was just about to leave the restaurant close to the central street of the campus, I heard F1 noises and was shocked. I immediately rushed out to find an unassuming BMW dolphin like Grand Coupe. As it was leaving, I saw that it did not have rear mufflers at all. As it sped away, the revs going higher, early 2000s F1 notes came. From that day on I guess the E63 M6 got into my subconsciousness and years later when I finally accumulated enough cash, I got one of my own. The appearances were fine but I was only able to find out late that the engine was mistreated. Getting it back in shape was more expensive than buying the car itself😂
That is epic man, I’m so glad that you have one!
I don’t know, the way I see it, a guy is getting a car that cost 150k CAD new (in 2024 money). For as cheap as you can get these, it doesn’t bother me too much that they require lots of $$$ to maintain and take care of. Annoying as it may be, a guy should be thankful you got to skip the high price to buy and be prepared for high price to take care of it 🤷♂️😂
Vanos pump is an issue but not as common as people think. They typically happen to the 2006 cars because there is only one oil drain plug, in the '06 cars there is a large deposit of oil that sits in the pump which builds acidity and wears out the internals. Halfway through the 2007 production they added a oil drain plug at the vanos pump to get all the oil out of the pan. Halfway through 2008 they updated the Vanos pump (though part # remains the same I believe) and there have been virtually no reported failures of the vanos pump on a 2008.5 car and above.
Damn man! Thank you for the info. We shall see I guess, but this one is an 06, and has been done, so fingers crossed 🤞
2008 lci is the only way
I feel a drag race coming on!
I have one, owned for maybe 3 years now, and I can't recommend the Eibach Pro Kit suspension enough - drops it nicely but it's still pretty much as smooth as stock springs and I haven't changed the dampers - EDC still working well.
Aside from that I've had one of the two actuators go, I ordered a lifetime warranty kit and replaced both myself - took around 5 hours. Fiddly but doable by yourself with basic tools. I had a garage do my rod bearings, at 69k miles the original ones weren't actually that worn but better safe than sorry.
Haven't really had any other problems, some water ingress killed my yaw sensor which led to some interesting behaviour, now fixed at a price of £20.
wow man! thank you very much for the insight, i appreciate it, i was actually looing at the Eibach kit for this car! it needs the drop bad, and i was wondering if it would affect the car electronically.
My friend the problem is the guys that don't know how take care of this car
This is very very true. 😂
No, some are just problem child’s. These cars aren’t good to own unless you do 100% of the work yourself
Keep up the good work, your consistency will definitely help your videos gain traction.
been following you for a little while now and always interested to see what's happened since the last video, I'd like to see more driving clips of the cars squeezed into the videos!
Fellow XFR owner btw, my last car was a e63 650i so the M6 was an intriguing purchase
Thanks a ton man! I appreciate it a lot.
Hopefully we can get some more driving clips soon, here in Alberta winter is in full swing, and we hit -50 degrees Celsius last week, which is insane even for us. limped the m6 to car wash when I got it home, and she’s been inside since haha,so we been pretty stagnant 😂
How did you like the 650i vs the XFR?
@@Code3media199 I feel you on that, we’re -8 degrees Celsius in Scotland and I daily the xfr it’s a bit of a handful has the pulley upgraded etc.
The 650 was a great entry to the v8 market and was a brilliant car for a year. I went on to buy my dream car merc cls63 2012.
It blew up the day after I bought it and have an ongoing legal dispute over a year later 😳
The week after the merc blew up the gearbox went in the 6 series 😂 was setback to a scabby old Audi for a while and then bought the jag.
I love it so far perfect middle ground between the merc and the 650 but the maintenance costs are definitely showing sure. Bought it in November and have since had to fork out for replacement water pump multiple hoses etc.
Can’t wipe the grin off the face hopping in with the custom exhaust/xpipe it’s a hooligan in dress shoes for sure 😂
Best of luck the m6 and I look forward to future content!
The SMG is not slow. At level 6, no human on the planet can shift faster than the hydraulic system. I have owned my 2007 M6 e64 since new. 67k miles and has been a great car.
I have 170,000 miles. On my e60 m5
Knows a couple Super car owner happily Drives them daily or long trips and said. They have very similar engine If not better than the Lambo They bought. They has almost the exact same gearbox as the older gen Lamborghini. They Both have the same issue in the gearbox. And BMW parts Don't have the Lamborghini markup on them. And having this Super car like performance and the high rev engine with the ability to take more than two ppl for a holiday on a trip is crazy. And They actually call them CHEAP to maintain for how useable it is daily. Argument goes in if they wants a NA Super engine. As long as they have the similar performance. They almost never reliable and most of the time been produced by a big name with high Mark up on the parts. Eg. u never really see a Lamborghini owner complain about costing them 20k to repair something. Exact same repair on the BMW v10 Gets a lot cheaper But every m6 owner is giving a bad taste to other ppl. And Yet Everyone try to get a Lambo haha.
I have had an m6 for a little over 4 years, the firmware of the SMG gearbox needs to be updated, I had the problem that the box returned a gear and it broke a synchronizer ring, I got a gearbox in the UK for about 500 usd, I changed the clutch, I did complete maintenance on all the seals in the hydraulic system, we separated the cables that tend to break over the years, and I have only been enjoying the car for more than 2 years, I bought it with 40,000 km and today it is With 71,000, I am looking to do the roadberings and maintenance to the vanos system.
Did you get the SMG tuning done?
The SMG stands for Seven Speed Sequential Manual Gearbox.😝 MLR engineering has decent upgraded pump motor for the SMG.
Damn man! makes a lot more sense. figured t was something adjacent to that, but wasn't sure on specifics. fingers crossed we wont need an smg pump soon! ;)
Couldn’t you use thinner bearings or thinner oil maybe to help with rod bearings from needing to be replaced?
Sort of! I have switch the car to a very expensive Motul esther oil that helps, and there are high clearance replacement bearings available, but if a guy buys an s85 powered car, it’s just kinda part of the maintenance list every 80-100km 😂
The nice part is, parts to do it cost about the same as replacing brake pads and rotors, so if you can do your own work, it’s not too bad!
Are you thinking of doing a manual swap?
Looking forward to seeing the story develop!
Juuuust maybe 🤔 the SMG in the car is brand new, but I might try and sell to recoop some value, and swap in a stick
@@Code3media199 sounds fun, the SMG let down the car imo.
Have a convertible 2007 m6 my clutch slave cylinder already broke ans abs brake pump had a lot of other issues as well.
What else has happened with it?
@Code3media199 well my friend 3 days ago my plcd sensor went out in my transmission had enough going to fix it and sell the car.
I got elongated timing chains, bad vanos actuators and solenoids, limp internal high pressure oil line, and bad main oil pump😂. Oof
Daaaaamn man, that is enough 😂
The dog :)
That be Freyja 😂
Freyja and Willow love hanging out in the shop.
Not a bad idea, but a 06 with high mileage is. Lol. Gotta try to stay 2008 and newer, and get lci, and get one with less then 60k miles.
I guess I just like to live dangerously 😂🤷♂️
I’m not super worried with it, with the rod bearings. Vanos pump and lines, TB actuators, SMG pump/clutch/lines, and a lot of other recent maintenance has been done, and that goes a long ways.
Poor lad, Super Freaked Out 😮
It’s not gonna be that bad 😉
Love this car, I have a rag top @junkm6
Nice! How has ownership been so far? Money pit?
@@Code3media199 Ironically it’s been the most reliable BMW I’ve ever owned. 🫡 (because I’ve touched every single nut and bolt) 😅 #s85