I love how he always says,When WE go to Ireland or U.K or wherever. It’s always we not I. I LOVE HIS RUclips CHANNEL / FAMILY. Glad to be a part of y’all.
My Great Grandparents, Grandparents, and my father are buried in Shattuck's Grove Cemetery. In the video, you can see all of my family's stones. As a young girl, I visited Shattuck's Grove Cemetery often. My family's stone is the obelisk with the "B" at the top, across from the baby's mort-safe. On the stone inside the mort safe was inscribed "Our Littlest Treasure". My sister and I used to read it each time we visited. Sadly the inscription has worn away. Shattuck's grove truly is a beautiful place.
Henry Ford and his wife are buried with a mort-safe over top of them. They are buried at the Ford Cemetery in Dearborn, Mi. Thank you for you hard work !
Yes I see it’s on Find a Grave, looks like a horizontal Mausoleum gate/door. Very interesting thanks for sharing Deanna www.findagrave.com/memorial/352/henry-ford
I'm wondering if those ornaments that you showed on the side of the cage, were a sort of bell that would ring if somebody tried to bypass the cage, and send them off running. At one time, they could have been loud before erosion took over. Just a thought.....
I was thinking about the bells they put on graves in case the person was accidentally buried alive, but unless there had been a rope at one time that eroded, that would not be what they were.
@@lisalewis5664 Well, that's another thought to consider. I still feel more, however, that they're connected with grave robbers. Hey, there could be other reasons, too, that you and I haven't thought of. :)
Graves did have Bell's on them back then, and earlier in the Centries before. But I think it was due to, people being burried alive. A lot of times hundred's of years ago. They would assume someone was dead, because maybe of shallow breathing or something. When they weren't sure if someone was dead, they would put a bell on the grave, so if the person woke up, and they really weren't dead. They could ring the bell, so that they could be dug up! Crazy but it was true! Catalepsy was a illness, that sent people to the morgue, when they were really alive. Because it made doctors think the person was dead, when they were very much alive. Today if you have that, you have to wear a bracelet at all times, so people will know!
GREAT STORIES , AWWW DID YOU SAY ROTISSERIE AT A CEMETERY 😂🤣😂🤣 THE ONE GRAVESTONE YOU LOOKED AT RON THE GUY DIED AT THE BATTLE OF VICKSBURG MISSISSIPPI TWO DAYS INTO THE SIEGE , GENERAL , PRESIDENT GRANTS GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE CIVIL WAR BUT ALSO TRAGIC THAT OUR FELLOW SOUTHERN AMERICANS SUFFERED TOO , MAY THEY ALL BE REMEMBERED 🤘🤘🤘
There are a lot of mortsafes in Scotland, home of Burke and Hare. Sometimes family members would take turns guarding a grave until the body would have decomposed enough that it would have been useless to the resurrection men. I have never seen a mortsafe in western Canada but there might be some down east where older cemeteries can be found.
Thank you for this one Ron. Mortsafes were common where I come from (Scotland) and when I was a child we always imagined they were 'Pirate graves' -you don't think of body snatching when you're 4 years old :-) I'm so happy to watch your subs go up and up, it's very well deserved. PLEASE let us know when you're going to Aberdeen, I'm only an hour away from there.
Would be great to know when your coming to either Edinburgh or Aberdeen please. I’m from Forfar, between Aberdeen and Dundee. I really enjoy following your channel, so interesting and fascinating, thank you 😊
@@juliemcgugan1244 I’m originally from Airdrie! Lived just down the hill from the cemetery in Thrashbush. We were always saying they were pirate graves too. Live in the Highlands now *waves*
I don't know if your interested because my 3x great uncle's grave has been lost to time but there is a statue commerating him and the others that died with him in New Ulm, MN. It was Pres. Lincoln's other war that's been forgotten. It lasted for about 20 years, had a famous battle: The Battle of Little Big Horn or Custer's Last Stand, had the largest mass execution in US history bout 36 Dakota men hanged at Fort Snelling. It's called The Indian Upraising of 1862. My Uncle was killed in the Battle of Leavenworth.
I'm surprised that last one was ever legal. Technically it's not self-defense, and in fact there is no self there left to defend, nor even any valuable property, such as would be in a bank vault. Having someone shot or blown to bits for the sake of a corpse doesn't quite seem fair.
@@kathybouziane5269 And the prices are very very reasonable when I showed my son he said he was ready to place an order and wondered if they took VISA LOL
It never ceases to amaze me re: the diversity of stories Ron has to tell, and how unique n different gravestones, sculptures, etc, can be. Fascinating!
@@johncook8720 come to Vancouver island. Canada We have had no spring at all in the winter here we do not get snow but a lot of rain and winds off the Pacific Ocean ..where I live is in the straits so we get a lot of strong winds. Well we had the same this spring. Then I call June summer and it’s starting out the same way.. we have had a few nice days and then back to a week of grey skies no sun winds and rain. So I need to see the sun haaaaaaaaa but can’t come into USA at all (our health department just said today ) we can actually travel around this province but no where else. I am so tired of this pandemic already.
@@sharonbrown6595 Hey Sharon, I've never been to Vancouver (closest has been Seattle) though i do hear its beautiful there. I have heard of the cloudy, rainy patterns though, that sucks :( You gave me hot off the press info re the current travel restrictions there..ugh. The virus cant get outta here soon enough, you got that right! Rons vids are amazing, aren't they? I wasnt even searching for this sort of topic, it popped up one day, i started watching n have been hooked ever since. Theres a few earlier stories i havent seen so im going back n watching them. Have you seen the one where he did the grand tour of that huge mausoleum? It had breathtaking sculptures and stained glass in it...amazing. Hopefully the sun is forecast for you tomorrow there? :)
Thanks to Jack for the information and to Ron for following up. That cage was beautifully crafted. Would love to find a old picture of some of these when they were new. I have seen some bars and grate type covers in some old cemeteries in the past, but nothing this elaborate. I guess I assumed it was a protection against wild animals digging so this was enlightening. Grave robbing had to be a big business back then! Thanks again for sharing this with us.🙂
I thought those cages were for witches and vampires. Love the info u give and paying such respect to those who were before us. Keep'em coming you rock!
And the sad Thing is that it happens at our Time too. I live in Frankfurt Germany and there was a case where People try to open the Grave. It was the Grave of a 13 Year old Boy who was murdered and someone try this.
I Suwanee Ron the more I watch the more intriguing history I learn. Thank you 🙏🤗. I've seen plots with iron fencing around them and over them but nothing like this....it's fascinating how these ppl thought these up to keep their loved ones RIP. Safe travels 💗🕊️
This is a sad way to have to protect a grave, but that is a part of history we cannot erase. Thanks Ron for sharing!!😇🙏🏻👍🏻👏and thanks to the gang member Jack, for letting you know about it...👌👏
Here in the northeast, particularly new England, there are graves covered by "wolfstones" large heavy slabs of stone placed there to prevent wolves from digging up the contents. Many date back to the 1700s, some dating back to the French and Indian War.
This is so interesting but sad at the same time. This almost looks as if one could dig this up with some effort, so I agree that maybe something was originally on top? And are the bells shaped like a figure of some sort? Katie is listed in the 1880 census as living with her parents at her grandparents house. Her mother was around 50 when she had Katie! Yikes! Sadly, Katie was an only child. RIP sweet angel. 😢
VERY INTERESTING video!! Isn't it sad that poor little Katie's parents felt the need to build a mort safe grave for her to stop ressurectionists??!! I suppose it gave them peace of mind that their baby could literally rest in peace!! Thanks for this, Ron and Jack!! Take care, and stay safe everyone!! XXXX
Next time you are in Minnesota you might want to check out a mass grave in the SW part of the state with a huge memorial. During the “Great Sioux Uprising of 1862” several homestead families were almost completely wiped out. The Indian Agent on the reservation was starving the Indians. This caused some younger Indians to rise. The saddest thing is that after it was all over the army rounded up about 100 men from the reservation. These men were still on the reservation because they didn’t kill anyone. President Lincoln signed a death warrant for all of them resulting in the largest mass execution in this countries history.
6:57 Notice these ones have the same style bronze marker in the cement? As the first one you showed Ron? I bet these ones with cement and the head stone right in the cement are others to prevent robbing. More or less sealed the grave in with a huge piece of concrete I see a handful in this video I bet this cemetery had major robbing issues and they did this to a lot of burials
Hiya Mooky, I know you were confused during the last live feed and I wanted to correct your suspicion. When I was chatting with everyone, there was a problem escalating that had absolutely nothing to do with you. Ron helped me address it during the premier. I have absolutely no idea why you thought my remarks was about you and yet it had nothing to do with you at all hun. I don't want to get into that discussion again as it caused problems and I ended up having many Subscribers during chat and Ron later when he could see his screen later who backed me up. It ended up with a Subscriber being removed unfortunately in which I hated to do after I warned that person a few times. Anyways you obviously thought it was about you and it was not. You replied things got weird in chat but it did not, you may of missed the full conversation. But I wanted to rest assure that it had absolutely nothing to do with you. I had to focus on chat to resolve the problem as Ron could not see his screen well with the sunlight while walking around. So please be rest assured, the issue was not with you. You are a respected member and never once caused issues. So you are okay . Just letting you know, nothing personal. I seen your final comment in live feed and seen you post here so I wanted to diplomatically correct you.
@@conditionallyunconditional5691 ... Yes,you are correct. I believe it to be in any Country, I have even seen threats of people doing it before the act had taken place. One case of such a threat online by a few people actually of breena Teena, the transgender female murdered and raped by the thugs with her two friends Murdered with her out in Nebraska. Teenas mother during interviews had stated that she wanted to remember her daughter for how she herself remembered her, not the lies that she created that she wanted others to believe. Since then numorous people in the transgender community have went out of their way and damaged teenas tombstone being replaced a few times and many continue these threats on RUclips and social media today which is as we all know illegal with the most serious charges. It is a total shame in my opinion. Everyone has the right to their own sexuality but not a single person has the right to damage a persons tombstone based on the parents wishes or the loved ones who burys them in their final resting place.
Sometime when you are back in the Rockford area, you might be interested in New Milford cemetery. There are graves that date back to the first half of the 19th century. Some stones were damaged by ammunition from nearby Camp Grant during WWI training, I believe.
If you ever come out south say to Oklahoma, I've got a couple a of graves and backstories I know from down here. Alot of them are in the town I'm from and one of them was my distant cousin Denise Haraway whos on Netflix's The Innocent Man. There's about 4 different graves at Vamoosa Cemetery that have really interesting backstories of crime and murder.
There was case of attempted grave robbing in Wisconsin in the middle 2000's. The grave of Laura Tennessen, neighbors called the police and they were caught
Love to seen this beautiful art when first made and I think it is a brilliant ideal to protect a young child back in those days. Rest in Peace little one.❤
Most welcome, I have enjoyed watching your channel, and glad that you were directed there. I have never seen one until I was at Shattuck cemetery, and I believed it was a rather unique find when I discovered the grave. If you are ever near Winnebago cnty, there is the tomb of Magill McCormick that is quite interesting as well. If you ever need any info, I am always very willing to assist as much info for Boone, Winnebago, DeKalb, and Ogle counties. Thanks for sharing, and for the shootout. Will be looking forward for more videos here in the future.
is it this one? looks intriguing.. Winnebago cnty, there is the tomb of Magill McCormick ....www.findagrave.com/memorial/7862015/joseph-medill-mccormick
keep those recommendations coming, you are hot, hahaha. sign up on my instagram, easier to chat....I usually don't see replies here, they don't alert me. thanks again.
@@FacesoftheForgotten Yes, that is correct, I have been to McCormick s tomb, McCormick is no longer in the tomb and has been relocated to the cemetery. The location is on Montigue rd, just off of Route 20 in Winnebago cnty. No, the name is fine, it is actually my pseudo name as I took it from my grandfather would say that a fool is a Jackanapes....ha ha. Thank you for your interest, and conversation, and I will get over and follow on Instagram.
But less we forget that if it wasn't for the 17th 18th century grave robbing for medical persons there wouldn't be half the knowledge or treatments there are today ... So out of bad comes good ..... Its all a part of history and we need to apriciate that these things happen for the greater good in the end ..... There's always positives and negatives we need to make sure both are being mentioned :)
I believe it’s actually Gleason. I looked into it and it was all I could find. I located it on find a grave. Seems her name was Katie L Gleason born in 1879 to Lerned and Julia Gleason. Seems she may have been their only baby.
Hey Ron! You might have already tried or heard of doing this. Try spraying the hard to read ones with a spray bottle of water, I'm pretty sure it will help the letters to be more clear without harming the headstone. I know you've already got a lot to carry around! Although sometimes sad and tragic, I enjoy your videos and the history 👍
I remember reading about a gallows victim somewhere in England (sorry, can’t remember where) on the dissection table who wasn’t dead and regained consciousness when cut. The surgeon, in front of all the students, hit him on the head with a mallet several times and killed him! Now, how does it go? Oh, yes, I remember, “first do no harm”. What a @#*%*¥!
I was thinking the same thing too. They're grave robbers and that's it. They're evil criminals, men who tamper with those who are laid to rest. if Christians, these ones are waiting for the resurrection......
Great find Jack. I live in New England and we have very old cemeteries here but those are not around here. There probably are a couple, I would love to see one. Thanks for going and checking it out Ron. ❤️🥰👑🙏🏻
In the middle of nowhere, so peaceful and beautiful. And so vast. Thank you from the UK 🇬🇧 for your tours. You are always so respectful and knowledgeable. Thank you again
When you get out here to AZ, Ron, there are 2 old cemeteries in Central Arizona. One is Adamsville, close to Florence and the Pinal up toward Superior. Wyatt Earp's wife is buried in the Pinal Cemetery. Thought I would give you a heads-up on these old ones. I will be living outside of Florence and both are pretty close to us. Great video Ron!
So how are graveyards financed for the grounds keeping? Is it the initial cost of internment that amortizes forever? Is the labor donated? Is it newer grave plots sold that finance the older plots?
I like how he gets the story on the videos he's doing. If he isn't sure of something he investigates it and puts it in the video when it's released. He has interesting stories. I thank him for his time to do these.
Very interesting video. Although the grave robberies took place in Scotland, Burke and Hare were actually migrants from Ireland and William Hare was apparently from a tiny village a few miles from my home town.
@ the South end of the town I grew up n are 3 cemeteries. The oldest one I went to as a child to help my Dad top out some trees that were becoming over grown/dangerous & of course being a child I was curious about death/cemeteries ect. So I got ta looking around & noticed @ the very back of the cemetery there was a small grave that had red bars around it. There is no headstone just red bars & the grave is about 2ft long. I asked my Grandfather about the grave bc he has been the head of the cemetery board since I can remember. All he would tell me even today is that he believes it is a small child & possibly a child of color. That back then all black ppl buried n the cemeteries were buried n the back but when I ask him about the red bars surrounding the small grave he says he doesn't know Y someone put it around the grave, that maybe they did that bc there isn't a headstone & wanted to make sure that the resting place was marked somehow so that they could always find'em when they came back to visit the grave. 🤷♀️ Still to this day, being 45 yrs old now...I still have always wondered bout that grave & Y there isn't a headstone & Y there is red bars around it. Would u happen to have any ideas??? I'm all ears👂
The child is Katie L. Gleason (1879-1881). Her parents were Lerned E. Gleason (1836-1918) and Julia M. Gleason (1847-1934). RIP
Thats sad
Thanks!! I was wondering if someone had found her info! I was just on find a grave
Was very sad destroy my mum and brother grave hurts makes me cry my dad or sister never never visit grave but I do
Rest in peace sweet angel
I love how he always says,When WE go to Ireland or U.K or wherever. It’s always we not I. I LOVE HIS RUclips CHANNEL / FAMILY. Glad to be a part of y’all.
Me too ! 😀🤗
That’s why WE “ love
him 🤗👏😀
"We" appreciate that 100%😊
My Great Grandparents, Grandparents, and my father are buried in Shattuck's Grove Cemetery. In the video, you can see all of my family's stones. As a young girl, I visited Shattuck's Grove Cemetery often. My family's stone is the obelisk with the "B" at the top, across from the baby's mort-safe. On the stone inside the mort safe was inscribed "Our Littlest Treasure". My sister and I used to read it each time we visited. Sadly the inscription has worn away. Shattuck's grove truly is a beautiful place.
Thank you for sharing!
You would have been such a great school teacher, every walk I learn something new that is why I love the walks , thank you
I never heard of cage grave before.
Henry Ford and his wife are buried with a mort-safe over top of them. They are buried at the Ford Cemetery in Dearborn, Mi. Thank you for you hard work !
Interesting, I’ll have to check that out!
Yes I see it’s on Find a Grave, looks like a horizontal Mausoleum gate/door. Very interesting thanks for sharing Deanna www.findagrave.com/memorial/352/henry-ford
I just looked it up. Wish I could copy/paste and image of their graves. But if you're interested, "gang", just google it. Very beautiful grave.
I'm wondering if those ornaments that you showed on the side of the cage, were a sort of bell that would ring if somebody tried to bypass the cage, and send them off running. At one time, they could have been loud before erosion took over. Just a thought.....
You maybe right.
I thought that too!
I was thinking about the bells they put on graves in case the person was accidentally buried alive, but unless there had been a rope at one time that eroded, that would not be what they were.
@@lisalewis5664 Well, that's another thought to consider. I still feel more, however, that they're connected with grave robbers. Hey, there could be other reasons, too, that you and I haven't thought of. :)
Graves did have Bell's on them back then, and earlier in the Centries before. But I think it was due to, people being burried alive. A lot of times hundred's of years ago. They would assume someone was dead, because maybe of shallow breathing or something. When they weren't sure if someone was dead, they would put a bell on the grave, so if the person woke up, and they really weren't dead. They could ring the bell, so that they could be dug up! Crazy but it was true! Catalepsy was a illness, that sent people to the morgue, when they were really alive. Because it made doctors think the person was dead, when they were very much alive. Today if you have that, you have to wear a bracelet at all times, so people will know!
GREAT STORIES , AWWW DID YOU SAY ROTISSERIE AT A CEMETERY 😂🤣😂🤣 THE ONE GRAVESTONE YOU LOOKED AT RON THE GUY DIED AT THE BATTLE OF VICKSBURG MISSISSIPPI TWO DAYS INTO THE SIEGE , GENERAL , PRESIDENT GRANTS GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE CIVIL WAR BUT ALSO TRAGIC THAT OUR FELLOW SOUTHERN AMERICANS SUFFERED TOO , MAY THEY ALL BE REMEMBERED 🤘🤘🤘
There are a lot of mortsafes in Scotland, home of Burke and Hare. Sometimes family members would take turns guarding a grave until the body would have decomposed enough that it would have been useless to the resurrection men. I have never seen a mortsafe in western Canada but there might be some down east where older cemeteries can be found.
I bet those were bells on the side of the mortsafe.
Clappers eroded away.
Thank you for this one Ron. Mortsafes were common where I come from (Scotland) and when I was a child we always imagined they were 'Pirate graves' -you don't think of body snatching when you're 4 years old :-) I'm so happy to watch your subs go up and up, it's very well deserved. PLEASE let us know when you're going to Aberdeen, I'm only an hour away from there.
Would be great to know when your coming to either Edinburgh or Aberdeen please. I’m from Forfar, between Aberdeen and Dundee. I really enjoy following your channel, so interesting and fascinating, thank you 😊
@@juliemcgugan1244 I’m originally from Airdrie! Lived just down the hill from the cemetery in Thrashbush. We were always saying they were pirate graves too. Live in the Highlands now *waves*
I don't know if your interested because my 3x great uncle's grave has been lost to time but there is a statue commerating him and the others that died with him in New Ulm, MN. It was Pres. Lincoln's other war that's been forgotten. It lasted for about 20 years, had a famous battle: The Battle of Little Big Horn or Custer's Last Stand, had the largest mass execution in US history bout 36 Dakota men hanged at Fort Snelling. It's called The Indian Upraising of 1862. My Uncle was killed in the Battle of Leavenworth.
At one time Sears & Roebucks sold both "Mort Safes" as well as Grave Torpedoes
I'm surprised that last one was ever legal. Technically it's not self-defense, and in fact there is no self there left to defend, nor even any valuable property, such as would be in a bank vault. Having someone shot or blown to bits for the sake of a corpse doesn't quite seem fair.
@@maryfreebed9886 I dont know if its fair or not but if someone tried to dig up my mother I would want them to blow up.
I have a 1908 Sears Roebuck catalog that lists the grave guards but you have to request a special catalog of ornamental fencing
@@kathybouziane5269 And the prices are very very reasonable when I showed my son he said he was ready to place an order and wondered if they took VISA LOL
Wow!!!!!
I cant wait till We go to Scotland and Ireland , i have Scotch Irish and Welsh blood so it is exciting🙏💜🇦🇺
Me too, I've been dreaming of going for 20 years and keep putting it off , I'll be too old to enjoy it if I don't get on it
Scottish, not scotch which is an alcoholic drink.
Katie Gleason 1879-1881
Thank you for that info!
Wow! You found who is buried in that grave? She was just a toddler, from the dates. 🕊️
It never ceases to amaze me re: the diversity of stories Ron has to tell, and how unique n different gravestones, sculptures, etc, can be. Fascinating!
I agree. And this was A very interesting story I thought
@@sharonbrown6595 absolutely. Lookin fwd to Rons next story. Very pleasant temps here tonite in Pa.
@@johncook8720 come to Vancouver island. Canada We have had no spring at all in the winter here we do not get snow but a lot of rain and winds off the Pacific Ocean ..where I live is in the straits so we get a lot of strong winds. Well we had the same this spring. Then I call June summer and it’s starting out the same way.. we have had a few nice days and then back to a week of grey skies no sun winds and rain. So I need to see the sun haaaaaaaaa but can’t come into USA at all (our health department just said today ) we can actually travel around this province but no where else. I am so tired of this pandemic already.
@@sharonbrown6595 Hey Sharon, I've never been to Vancouver (closest has been Seattle) though i do hear its beautiful there. I have heard of the cloudy, rainy patterns though, that sucks :( You gave me hot off the press info re the current travel restrictions there..ugh. The virus cant get outta here soon enough, you got that right! Rons vids are amazing, aren't they? I wasnt even searching for this sort of topic, it popped up one day, i started watching n have been hooked ever since. Theres a few earlier stories i havent seen so im going back n watching them. Have you seen the one where he did the grand tour of that huge mausoleum? It had breathtaking sculptures and stained glass in it...amazing. Hopefully the sun is forecast for you tomorrow there? :)
I agree, I've never seen a 'lazy susan' for dead bodies @ 10:57. unreal.
I have never seen anything like that before. amazing
Thank you Jack for telling Ron about this cemetery, and thank you Ron for showing us around .
Thanks to Jack for the information and to Ron for following up. That cage was beautifully crafted. Would love to find a old picture of some of these when they were new. I have seen some bars and grate type covers in some old cemeteries in the past, but nothing this elaborate. I guess I assumed it was a protection against wild animals digging so this was enlightening. Grave robbing had to be a big business back then! Thanks again for sharing this with us.🙂
I thought those cages were for witches and vampires. Love the info u give and paying such respect to those who were before us. Keep'em coming you rock!
Up in New England, there are some erected during a supposed vampire scare many years ago.
Very interesting thank u!!
You should get a group trip planned. Maybe 15 people or so to go to Ireland or Scotland. Maybe get a group travel rate.
I would love to go
I would also like to go.
And the sad Thing is that it happens at our Time too. I live in Frankfurt Germany and there was a case where People try to open the Grave. It was the Grave of a 13 Year old Boy who was murdered and someone try this.
That is just sick i'm from the Netherlands whe a little bit of neighbours 🤣
I Suwanee Ron the more I watch the more intriguing history I learn. Thank you 🙏🤗. I've seen plots with iron fencing around them and over them but nothing like this....it's fascinating how these ppl thought these up to keep their loved ones RIP. Safe travels 💗🕊️
This is a sad way to have to protect a grave, but that is a part of history we cannot erase.
Thanks Ron for sharing!!😇🙏🏻👍🏻👏and thanks to the gang member Jack, for letting you know about it...👌👏
The name isn't Eason it is Gleason. Her name was Katie L. Gleason
nice work!
Omg you coming over hear I can't wait to see what you find your gonna love it I promise xx
So sad that you had to put these cages to protect the body from being stolen.
Hi Ron I never in my life heard about this before, I always learn something when I watch you take care......Mary in Canada 🇨🇦
Ron you know a lot you have a careing nature towards people who have died especially ones who got wrong to them thank you 😀
The ornaments were probably bells.
Here in the northeast, particularly new England, there are graves covered by "wolfstones" large heavy slabs of stone placed there to prevent wolves from digging up the contents. Many date back to the 1700s, some dating back to the French and Indian War.
Eason very Irish surname...have you heard of Easons book stores, going for centuries
This is so interesting but sad at the same time. This almost looks as if one could dig this up with some effort, so I agree that maybe something was originally on top? And are the bells shaped like a figure of some sort?
Katie is listed in the 1880 census as living with her parents at her grandparents house. Her mother was around 50 when she had Katie! Yikes! Sadly, Katie was an only child. RIP sweet angel. 😢
Oh, how sad! I can only imagine their grief at that time.
VERY INTERESTING video!! Isn't it sad that poor little Katie's parents felt the need to build a mort safe grave for her to stop ressurectionists??!! I suppose it gave them peace of mind that their baby could literally rest in peace!! Thanks for this, Ron and Jack!!
Take care, and stay safe everyone!! XXXX
I love the way your vouce exposes such excitement when you find something so amazing!🥰... i mean no disrespect on that..
Very interesting. Never heard of this this type of keeping a body being from being stolen.
Next time you are in Minnesota you might want to check out a mass grave in the SW part of the state with a huge memorial. During the “Great Sioux Uprising of 1862” several homestead families were almost completely wiped out. The Indian Agent on the reservation was starving the Indians. This caused some younger Indians to rise. The saddest thing is that after it was all over the army rounded up about 100 men from the reservation. These men were still on the reservation because they didn’t kill anyone. President Lincoln signed a death warrant for all of them resulting in the largest mass execution in this countries history.
interesting Jo, could you send me a link to this at facesforgottentoday@gmail.com? I was unable to find it
6:57
Notice these ones have the same style bronze marker in the cement? As the first one you showed Ron? I bet these ones with cement and the head stone right in the cement are others to prevent robbing. More or less sealed the grave in with a huge piece of concrete I see a handful in this video
I bet this cemetery had major robbing issues and they did this to a lot of burials
Imagine a time when you had to worry about such a thing as grave robbing! That's amazing history right there! Thank you Jack! Thanks Ron✌
Hiya Mooky, I know you were confused during the last live feed and I wanted to correct your suspicion. When I was chatting with everyone, there was a problem escalating that had absolutely nothing to do with you. Ron helped me address it during the premier. I have absolutely no idea why you thought my remarks was about you and yet it had nothing to do with you at all hun.
I don't want to get into that discussion again as it caused problems and I ended up having many Subscribers during chat and Ron later when he could see his screen later who backed me up. It ended up with a Subscriber being removed unfortunately in which I hated to do after I warned that person a few times. Anyways you obviously thought it was about you and it was not. You replied things got weird in chat but it did not, you may of missed the full conversation. But I wanted to rest assure that it had absolutely nothing to do with you. I had to focus on chat to resolve the problem as Ron could not see his screen well with the sunlight while walking around. So please be rest assured, the issue was not with you. You are a respected member and never once caused issues. So you are okay . Just letting you know, nothing personal. I seen your final comment in live feed and seen you post here so I wanted to diplomatically correct you.
Interesting I live here in Belvidere. I am going to go seei this. Thank you.
Grave desecration is still a threat, even today.
@@conditionallyunconditional5691 ... Yes,you are correct. I believe it to be in any Country, I have even seen threats of people doing it before the act had taken place. One case of such a threat online by a few people actually of breena Teena, the transgender female murdered and raped by the thugs with her two friends Murdered with her out in Nebraska. Teenas mother during interviews had stated that she wanted to remember her daughter for how she herself remembered her, not the lies that she created that she wanted others to believe.
Since then numorous people in the transgender community have went out of their way and damaged teenas tombstone being replaced a few times and many continue these threats on RUclips and social media today which is as we all know illegal with the most serious charges. It is a total shame in my opinion. Everyone has the right to their own sexuality but not a single person has the right to damage a persons tombstone based on the parents wishes or the loved ones who burys them in their final resting place.
@@raindancer1872 ... I believe that still occurs today but not as frequent. You are correct.
Wow, it is sad how many things people will do for money.
While it is certainly wrong to disturb the dead this practice advanced the knowledge of human anatomy.
Sometime when you are back in the Rockford area, you might be interested in New Milford cemetery. There are graves that date back to the first half of the 19th century. Some stones were damaged by ammunition from nearby Camp Grant during WWI training, I believe.
There is a little town in MO called Newtonia and there is a dirt road that dead ends into a civil war cemetery. I would love for you to go there.
If you ever come out south say to Oklahoma, I've got a couple a of graves and backstories I know from down here. Alot of them are in the town I'm from and one of them was my distant cousin Denise Haraway whos on Netflix's The Innocent Man. There's about 4 different graves at Vamoosa Cemetery that have really interesting backstories of crime and murder.
Very beautiful cemetery … ,great video as always Ron and thank you Jack .that grave was amazing the mort safe I have never seen anything like that
Thanks for the Adventure . I hope to find one in my wanderings some day 🙏
Let me know if you do!! 😁
@@FacesoftheForgotten you will be the first to know believe me! You will probably hear me all the way to Illinois.
I saw these in Virginia City NV. I was told that they were to keep the devil and ghosts out and to protect the souls of the ones buried there
There was case of attempted grave robbing in Wisconsin in the middle 2000's. The grave of Laura Tennessen, neighbors called the police and they were caught
Really. Interesting I’ll have to look it up
@@FacesoftheForgotten be warn, it is creepy and sick, one of the man went back to prison in 2011
How fascinating! I googled images of a mortsafe and found a similar one that had a concrete lid on it. I'm wondering if those 4 posts held one also.
Yes, I bet you're right. That would explain those pieces of mortar left on top of the posts.
But with the writing on dont think anything would have been on top of them or no need for the writing
This was a amazing video and very interesting place without question. Thank you for touring this cemetery.
Love the time you put into the history of the graves and and the people that have passed on. Thank you.
Imagine standing exactly where the Mortsafe is back in 1881 when it was brand new.....CRAZY
Hey can you go back to that pet cemetery and lay a rose on penny the cat grave for me thank u! I love cats from ( spirit rabbit) 🐇
the cast is a bell...
That's what I was figuring to ring out.
Think ur vids are brilliant. You do a fantastic job. Thank you x
Love to seen this beautiful art when first made and I think it is a brilliant ideal to protect a young child back in those days. Rest in Peace little one.❤
Should go to Beasin IL the Gee family.
That’s close to me I live in Atlanta Illinois
Most welcome, I have enjoyed watching your channel, and glad that you were directed there. I have never seen one until I was at Shattuck cemetery, and I believed it was a rather unique find when I discovered the grave. If you are ever near Winnebago cnty, there is the tomb of Magill McCormick that is quite interesting as well. If you ever need any info, I am always very willing to assist as much info for Boone, Winnebago, DeKalb, and Ogle counties. Thanks for sharing, and for the shootout. Will be looking forward for more videos here in the future.
way to go, hope I didn't butcher your name, lol. I'll check that stuff out; Magill.
is it this one? looks intriguing..
Winnebago cnty, there is the tomb of Magill McCormick ....www.findagrave.com/memorial/7862015/joseph-medill-mccormick
keep those recommendations coming, you are hot, hahaha. sign up on my instagram, easier to chat....I usually don't see replies here, they don't alert me. thanks again.
@@FacesoftheForgotten Yes, that is correct, I have been to McCormick s tomb, McCormick is no longer in the tomb and has been relocated to the cemetery. The location is on Montigue rd, just off of Route 20 in Winnebago cnty. No, the name is fine, it is actually my pseudo name as I took it from my grandfather would say that a fool is a Jackanapes....ha ha. Thank you for your interest, and conversation, and I will get over and follow on Instagram.
Come to Macon ga alot of good stories.
Absolutely love your Videos 😁😁😁👍👍👍👍
Wow you learn something new everyday! Thank you 🌺 🌸 🌺
Thank you Jack! Super interesting find! :)
I never knew such a thing existed.
There is a Shattuc , Illinois
“We are in” love it!!💕
I used to think that they where part of a spirit house. Used on American Indian graves.
But less we forget that if it wasn't for the 17th 18th century grave robbing for medical persons there wouldn't be half the knowledge or treatments there are today ... So out of bad comes good ..... Its all a part of history and we need to apriciate that these things happen for the greater good in the end ..... There's always positives and negatives we need to make sure both are being mentioned :)
I had never heard of such a thing! C very interesting!
I believe it’s actually Gleason. I looked into it and it was all I could find. I located it on find a grave. Seems her name was Katie L Gleason born in 1879 to Lerned and Julia Gleason. Seems she may have been their only baby.
Ron I’m in England, the county of Derbyshire, I’ve never actually seen a mort safe but I’ll keep looking TMW 🏴🇬🇧👍
England has Highgate Cemetary
Hey Ron! You might have already tried or heard of doing this. Try spraying the hard to read ones with a spray bottle of water, I'm pretty sure it will help the letters to be more clear without harming the headstone. I know you've already got a lot to carry around! Although sometimes sad and tragic, I enjoy your videos and the history 👍
thanks, I have done that sometimes, like the Marilla episode (trilogy)
I remember reading about a gallows victim somewhere in England (sorry, can’t remember where) on the dissection table who wasn’t dead and regained consciousness when cut. The surgeon, in front of all the students, hit him on the head with a mallet several times and killed him! Now, how does it go? Oh, yes, I remember, “first do no harm”. What a @#*%*¥!
They shouldn't have been called resurrectionists.. Only Jesus was resurrected and the Virgin Mary, maybe Moses & Elijah...
I was thinking the same thing too. They're grave robbers and that's it. They're evil criminals, men who tamper with those who are laid to rest. if Christians, these ones are waiting for the resurrection......
Thanks you my friend see you soon
GREAT VIDEO RON !!! I REALLY LOVE & ENJOY your videos !!!! Please KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK !!!!
This was absolutely fascinating, what a great video, you learn something new everyday...Bless you Ron, for bringing this to us.
Great find Jack. I live in New England and we have very old cemeteries here but those are not around here. There probably are a couple, I would love to see one. Thanks for going and checking it out Ron. ❤️🥰👑🙏🏻
That was a great find!
Thank you so interesting😇
Rip little one 😇🇦🇺
Hi
In the middle of nowhere, so peaceful and beautiful. And so vast. Thank you from the UK 🇬🇧 for your tours. You are always so respectful and knowledgeable. Thank you again
Aberdeen is in Scotland not Ireland .
Really interesting. Thank you.
When you get out here to AZ, Ron, there are 2 old cemeteries in Central Arizona. One is Adamsville, close to Florence and the Pinal up toward Superior. Wyatt Earp's wife is buried in the Pinal Cemetery. Thought I would give you a heads-up on these old ones. I will be living outside of Florence and both are pretty close to us. Great video Ron!
I enjoy this channel. I must say, the cornfield near the cemetery looks good.
So how are graveyards financed for the grounds keeping? Is it the initial cost of internment that amortizes forever? Is the labor donated? Is it newer grave plots sold that finance the older plots?
Fancy having to put your loved one in a rotisserie! Yikes! Thank Heavens we can donate our bodies to science now, obviously bodies are needed
"The only child of Mr and Mrs E L Gleason, Katie L, died last week of typhoid dysentery." From the Belvedere standard Tuesday August 9th 1881
thanks for sharing Rachel.
Awesome lead!
Never seen one like that. Ty both.
Good story Ron
That's where my in laws live belevidere
I think this is a very interesting video Ron.
I have never heard of a mortgage.
You are always teaching us new things. Great video Ron.💙
I like how he gets the story on the videos he's doing. If he isn't sure of something he investigates it and puts it in the video when it's released. He has interesting stories. I thank him for his time to do these.
Very interesting video. Although the grave robberies took place in Scotland, Burke and Hare were actually migrants from Ireland and William Hare was apparently from a tiny village a few miles from my home town.
Looks like the corn will be knee high by 4 of July -love your vloggs
Thnank s Mr for the videos
@ the South end of the town I grew up n are 3 cemeteries. The oldest one I went to as a child to help my Dad top out some trees that were becoming over grown/dangerous & of course being a child I was curious about death/cemeteries ect. So I got ta looking around & noticed @ the very back of the cemetery there was a small grave that had red bars around it. There is no headstone just red bars & the grave is about 2ft long. I asked my Grandfather about the grave bc he has been the head of the cemetery board since I can remember. All he would tell me even today is that he believes it is a small child & possibly a child of color. That back then all black ppl buried n the cemeteries were buried n the back but when I ask him about the red bars surrounding the small grave he says he doesn't know Y someone put it around the grave, that maybe they did that bc there isn't a headstone & wanted to make sure that the resting place was marked somehow so that they could always find'em when they came back to visit the grave. 🤷♀️
Still to this day, being 45 yrs old now...I still have always wondered bout that grave & Y there isn't a headstone & Y there is red bars around it.
Would u happen to have any ideas??? I'm all ears👂
Thanks Jack!
And we're in!
I never heard of that before. Interesting video.
Great video Ron. I have several ancestors who are buried here!