Not my fault the artists were drawing you with horny minds. Granted, me saving these panels in my laptop in the first place doesn't help the accusations..
Have mostly the same opinion as you with the pachinko sprites, although I would've placed Erika on S as well. It's mostly the "cutesy" characters that still look great or even better in the pachinko style.
Yeah, like after finishing this whole video there may be a few characters here and there that I might've also reconsidered putting in S, like Erika. Even right now, I feel like the more I look at her pachinko sprites, the more I love them. And yes, you are pretty much sharing the same kind of thought as me when it comes to the pachinko sprites: it is the characters that are on younger looking side that will garner better looks.
Okay, the big downside however to this is that despite good looks, the pachinko has like variety when it comes to poses. The PS3 sprites have a lot of poses for Erika that I like.
Alright, I am going to give you my two cents. Ryukishi's sprites will always stay in my heart because the very first time I read Umineko, I opted for the original. They are my favourite in terms of expression, poses, colours and general feel to them. I also particularly love the sharp shading effect, as if there is always an extreme contrast between light and shadow, which perfectly fits the atmosphere as well. Of course they are very raw drawings, but that's how I like it and I feel that they fit Umineko the best still today. The PS3 sprites are completely fine but a bit too polished and not as tasty, it's a very banal and unimaginative anime style. Whoever created those did very good homework for the VN, but still just homework nonetheless. That version still deserves praise for the very good CGs though. With regards to the Pachinko sprites I mostly agree with you, plus the Pachinko version of the VN featured very cool CGs which came up at different plot spots than the PS3, interestingly enough. At some point I wanted to try and create a version which would include CGs from both versions of the VN, but had no time to complete that project. This is a fun video, tier lists and uwufufus can be fun to both make and watch 👍🏼
My first playthrough on Higurashi and Umineko is with the steam and Pachinko sprites (I didn't know about the console mod), i actually like some of the pachinko sprites more like with Rosa, Erika and Dlanor. I also appreciate the more tanned skin on Battler and that they added wrinkles to mature character like with Natsuhi and Eva even though it can be a bit too much. I even prefer the original Background more than the console version. Some people think that using the steam/pachinko sprites ruin the experience but that is not true. Even without the mods i can still feel the vibe, atmosphere and emotional moments in the story and it's still become my favorite stories of all time.
I think I have seen some art with this artstyle, and I kid you not, I think I remember liking BATTLER pachinko in those arts A LOT despite the imposter feel, idk how that is possible. Will have to look up again.
About the "impostor" faces, even if they do not match the actual personality of the characters, given that Umineko presents itself as a serial murder mystery with family conspirations, I think they contribute more to the overall first impression "everyone can be a culprit". This would also explain why Will has not an "impostor" face, not by coincidence, but because when he first appears, it is already known that he is not a culprit. Have a nice day!
It is an interesting take on it. That the sprites are done in a more "brutal" way like Battler's and Krauss and such because of the initial nature of the family and how much darkness lied in it as we seen in early episodes. Like out of all these sprites, a lot of the ushiromiya family sprites feel like the most questionable to me whereas the rest feel decently like their counterparts.
6:06 Genuinely my problem with George in the Pachinko sprites is that when he opens his eyes he looks so silly, like, is it just me or his eyes are too distant from each other?!?
Yeah I don't see most of the pachinko sprites as half bad either, the hate they get is disproportionate IMO. BTW I think you need a rank lower than C to do some of the higher C justice, to distinguish from the "kill it with fire" kinds.
Maybe. I guess originally I didn't want a D tier, because Ds and Fs are associated with complete garbage, and I didn't want to go into this with the idea that there would be dogshit sprites, so I went with C the lowest I guess.
I agree with most of the imposter feeling that most of the sprites give, for example many battler representation beside the original sprite were trying what they could to making him more accurate as possible, and I think that the PS3 sprite goes as close as that. Most of the Eiserne Jungfrau and Chiester sisters have their sprite perfected, i prefer them more than the original, but with the other I'd stick with the PS3 and original ones. Also, props to Pachinko for making a better animated adaptation of the vn
@@NobyGrand Studio Deen managed an adaptation of the visual novel; however, the sprites in Umineko Pachinko come from a slot machine-style game (which in Japanese is called Pachinko) where several scenes from the visual novel, some of the most important ones, are animated. Since text often appears on screen in Pachinko games of this kind, I found this adaptation to be more faithful to the visual novel compared to the one by studio Deen, personally of course (even though I don't despise the anime adaptation as I made it look like, it's just a shame they adapted just the question arcs)
I don't hate the Pachinko's art, I think it looks better in motion the little cutscenes it has look okay as long as Battler is not involved, like for real, that design would maje anyone consider the Battler culprit theory. On the topic of Erika's age, maybe the meta would works under different rules, but if she can marry, I say she must be at least 18 years old XD, she also mentions wanting to try smoking in episode 6.
I honestly like the pachinko sprites a bit more than PS3 since the PS3 ones can be kind of bland. Some of the adults look more appropriately their age. Also they gave Erika a more impressive pirate hat!
Pirate hat looks cool on her too~ But in my eyes it is a downgrade cause the jolly roger doesn't have the chopsticks and cat-like hat like the PS3 ones...
@@NobyGrand if we’re going by each character just for short gonna call each art style (07, P3, and PA) (sent by accident still editing come back later) Battler-07(Because he is adorable) Beatrice-07/P3 (i’m mixed on her Because I like the gremlin look but also P3’s sad face are too cute) Ange- PA (she looks more serious and less bored) Stake sisters- (to be removed from the story jk, P3) Asumu- to have an actual fucking design Bernkabitch- A rode up her ass, also P3 Captain Kawabata- to be the one who threw Erika off the boat, 07 Chick beato- p3 Chiester 00- 07 Chiester 410- P3 Chiester 45- PA, to have shorter names Chiester 556- to have an actual fucking character, also dick move on ange not riving her meanwhile Curses my eardrums with Sakotoro. PA Kumasawa- P3, she looks sweet Clair- P3, also I’m looking at umineko wiki while i’m typing this out and I actually prefer the 4th sprite of clair but idk which one that’s from. Cornelia- to be fucking useful, 07 Dlanor- PA, but p3’s catface sprite is so good. Also i’m kidnapping her given the chance Erika- PA, granted I really like all 3 but want her in a guillotine regardless. Eva- P3, ik she’s old but not that old as they make her look in PA. Meanwhile 07 doesn’t look bitchy enough. Eva Bitchrice- P3 Featherine- PA makes me horn- i mean has nice horns totally 😅 Furfur- to be not annoying, 07 is cute though. Gaap- P3, pa made them way to big for me to handle. Genji- none he looks at me with as much disappointment in his eyes as my father, 07 George- to not have such a huge age gap with shannon, 07. How dare the other art styles try and make him look handsome. Gertrude- PA, her hair is really nice in that one and makes me forget she’s a pointless character. Gaots- I’m so conflicted on the 3, mostly because of the anime showed they can have multiple designs, and I love all the goats. But if I must choose P3 because it’s the most intimidating. hideyoshi- P3, i got no comment for this one other than Chubby Yoshi is better. Jessica- P3, Golden Fantasia is really good to, but we all know Jessatrice would be the best design if shannon would share her clothes. Amakuza- P3 the others make him look lame and helps me understand why Ange wants to shoot this man. Kanon- 07 makes me see what Jessica does, i don’t agree but her choice I guess kasumi- join Erika on the guillotine, P3 Kinzo- join BEEEEAAAATTTTTRRRRICE’s P3 club Kruass- P3 the other two make me wonder why Natsushi didn’t agree to divorce him. Pfftt haha she should have done it regardless. Kuma Beatrice- same as the other beatrice Kyrie- dang girl ik why Rudolph didn’t choose you, P3 Lambda- if you didn’t look like you’re twelve would Have a amazing time with in the pub, PA. lion- beatrice idc if you put on a suit, get your ass in PA maria- PA makes her look so small! I love it, but P3’s evil faces gives me nightmares. Natushi- 07, her design is too good for krauss piece- Die the Death, sentence to death, Equalizer for your annoying ass is The DEATH! 07 is cute but I still want her to not exist. Ronove- ah the man that makes me question my sexuality…I mean P3 Rosa- I hate you so much as a mother, but god damn it why Do I want put another baby in you?! PA Rudolf- Slick, confident, terrible human being and lover. P3 fits best Sakutaro- to not make my ears bleed so take your PA place and leave Shannon- the rest of you is cute enough but you can take off the fake ass titties, p3 Nanjo- p3 too, PA makes him look like a sad fish Hachijo- wether magic exists or not doesn’t change the fact you make me hor- i mean make me change my preference, PA Gohda- PA, the only guy i prefer in that art style. Virgilia- “don’t say it she’s actually kumasawa, don’t say it she’s an old lady” smash, PA Willard- Okay I lied PA looks great here too, also I’m murdering this man to take his outfit. Zepar- to not have a penis or Furfur to not have one whoever does needs to hack it off I can’t stop thinking about it when neither of them wear pants, Shannon! Ange! Quick being so god damn horny with these designs! Whoever is canonically responsible for them! Oh right i was talking about art style 07
TLDR: It's just a matter of preference. I actually like Pachinko sprite (except for Battler's too-spiky hair). Actually I prefer Pachinko sprite (although Battler's hair is too spiky). I started Umineko with the anime. So Pachinko sprite resembles them. I like how Beatrice looks so elegant in anime, and so with Pachinko sprite. PS3 sprites at first impression look beautiful. Then i think they're less expressive compared to Pachinko sprites, and kinda look 'plastic', dunno how to describe. But i like ps3 sprites for Battler and maybe Eva, compared to Pachinko. Wish we can choose for each character. Lol let me dream. Really, I can't understand the hate towards Pachinko sprites. The art is beautiful, proportion is on the spot. Really, it's all just a matter of taste. Because i dont understand why people likes Ryukishi sprite (can understand, but not my taste). I think it's because of nostalgia too. For me, seeing Pachinko sprites makes me feel nostalgic, because it's similar to the anime version, and i was introduced to umineko in the anime version and love it. Oh yeah, hate the boobs. Hate Kyrie's and Shannon's boobs in Pachinko sprite. Wish someone make a mod to make the boobs smaller or cover them with some fashion clothing. Also cover the underwear of the sisters. Such unnecessary fanservice (disservice)
Pachinko faces resemble the anime faces (except Battler & Eva). I like the anime version and fall in love with Umineko because of the anime. So Pachinko version is *thumbs up* (except for boobs of Kyrie and Shannon)
It's a matter of taste and nostalgia. Nostalgia depends on which type you were introduced first. For me, the nostalgia is anime. So Pachinko sprites i prefer. But i dont like the boobs of Kyrie & Shannon.
@@NobyGrandThe backgrounds for me change completely on how the Atmosphere, However they also change how the area looks in general. Like for the mansion inside it looks way more ghost like and airy while in the OG the updated it looks more lively
ps3 version looks younger/childish with cleaner and rounder faces. too clean for my taste. well it's up to taste i think. but all types have their own charms i think
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So, you are saying that you were looking at questionable images of me, Noby-saaaaan? *giggle*
Not my fault the artists were drawing you with horny minds.
Granted, me saving these panels in my laptop in the first place doesn't help the accusations..
Have mostly the same opinion as you with the pachinko sprites, although I would've placed Erika on S as well. It's mostly the "cutesy" characters that still look great or even better in the pachinko style.
Yeah, like after finishing this whole video there may be a few characters here and there that I might've also reconsidered putting in S, like Erika. Even right now, I feel like the more I look at her pachinko sprites, the more I love them.
And yes, you are pretty much sharing the same kind of thought as me when it comes to the pachinko sprites: it is the characters that are on younger looking side that will garner better looks.
Hell, I look more at these and may start liking them more than the PS3 ones, someone stop me, lol.
Okay, the big downside however to this is that despite good looks, the pachinko has like variety when it comes to poses. The PS3 sprites have a lot of poses for Erika that I like.
I'll stick up for Pachinko Aunt Eva - I feel like it nails Eva's "aunt who gets way too drunk at thanksgiving" vibe
Now that's a valid feeling to have.
Alright, I am going to give you my two cents.
Ryukishi's sprites will always stay in my heart because the very first time I read Umineko, I opted for the original. They are my favourite in terms of expression, poses, colours and general feel to them. I also particularly love the sharp shading effect, as if there is always an extreme contrast between light and shadow, which perfectly fits the atmosphere as well. Of course they are very raw drawings, but that's how I like it and I feel that they fit Umineko the best still today. The PS3 sprites are completely fine but a bit too polished and not as tasty, it's a very banal and unimaginative anime style. Whoever created those did very good homework for the VN, but still just homework nonetheless. That version still deserves praise for the very good CGs though. With regards to the Pachinko sprites I mostly agree with you, plus the Pachinko version of the VN featured very cool CGs which came up at different plot spots than the PS3, interestingly enough. At some point I wanted to try and create a version which would include CGs from both versions of the VN, but had no time to complete that project. This is a fun video, tier lists and uwufufus can be fun to both make and watch 👍🏼
A nice case of "whatever one grew up with will remember fondly the most out of all versions".
It was a nice video indeed to make.
My first playthrough on Higurashi and Umineko is with the steam and Pachinko sprites (I didn't know about the console mod), i actually like some of the pachinko sprites more like with Rosa, Erika and Dlanor. I also appreciate the more tanned skin on Battler and that they added wrinkles to mature character like with Natsuhi and Eva even though it can be a bit too much. I even prefer the original Background more than the console version. Some people think that using the steam/pachinko sprites ruin the experience but that is not true. Even without the mods i can still feel the vibe, atmosphere and emotional moments in the story and it's still become my favorite stories of all time.
That is lovely to hear. Thanks Hafiz.
Too bad you couldn't find a pachinko sprite tierlist lol, it feels weird to see the PS3 ones there instead, but great vid!
Yeah, this tierlist was readily available. I mean, it was either this or no tierlist maker.
Pachinko Krauss looks like the villain from Wicked - The Apple Man
Oh goodness me.
It is weird how for the steam version they brought the pachinko sprites but not the CGs.
I think I have seen some art with this artstyle, and I kid you not, I think I remember liking BATTLER pachinko in those arts A LOT despite the imposter feel, idk how that is possible. Will have to look up again.
@@NobyGrand apparently the CGs used to be in the 07th mod, but they removed them down because people did not like them for wathever reason.
wait.. do you mean that we get the ryukishi's CG only in steam (if without mods or voice-only 07th mod)??
About the "impostor" faces, even if they do not match the actual personality of the characters, given that Umineko presents itself as a serial murder mystery with family conspirations, I think they contribute more to the overall first impression "everyone can be a culprit". This would also explain why Will has not an "impostor" face, not by coincidence, but because when he first appears, it is already known that he is not a culprit.
Have a nice day!
It is an interesting take on it.
That the sprites are done in a more "brutal" way like Battler's and Krauss and such because of the initial nature of the family and how much darkness lied in it as we seen in early episodes. Like out of all these sprites, a lot of the ushiromiya family sprites feel like the most questionable to me whereas the rest feel decently like their counterparts.
6:06 Genuinely my problem with George in the Pachinko sprites is that when he opens his eyes he looks so silly, like, is it just me or his eyes are too distant from each other?!?
Oh I can definitely see that. Wew.
Yeah I don't see most of the pachinko sprites as half bad either, the hate they get is disproportionate IMO.
BTW I think you need a rank lower than C to do some of the higher C justice, to distinguish from the "kill it with fire" kinds.
Maybe.
I guess originally I didn't want a D tier, because Ds and Fs are associated with complete garbage, and I didn't want to go into this with the idea that there would be dogshit sprites, so I went with C the lowest I guess.
Hmm.. I thought we did get an smug Maria with the ps3 in episode 1 after the six murders, but i'm not 100% sure.
Not really sure. Maybe what others see as smug faces I see them as more evil faces some of the ones she does, with her teeth showing.
I agree with most of the imposter feeling that most of the sprites give, for example many battler representation beside the original sprite were trying what they could to making him more accurate as possible, and I think that the PS3 sprite goes as close as that. Most of the Eiserne Jungfrau and Chiester sisters have their sprite perfected, i prefer them more than the original, but with the other I'd stick with the PS3 and original ones. Also, props to Pachinko for making a better animated adaptation of the vn
I absolutely agree with you here, Miden.
Although, better animated adaptation of the vn? What do you mean? The anime?
@@NobyGrand Studio Deen managed an adaptation of the visual novel; however, the sprites in Umineko Pachinko come from a slot machine-style game (which in Japanese is called Pachinko) where several scenes from the visual novel, some of the most important ones, are animated. Since text often appears on screen in Pachinko games of this kind, I found this adaptation to be more faithful to the visual novel compared to the one by studio Deen, personally of course (even though I don't despise the anime adaptation as I made it look like, it's just a shame they adapted just the question arcs)
I don't hate the Pachinko's art, I think it looks better in motion the little cutscenes it has look okay as long as Battler is not involved, like for real, that design would maje anyone consider the Battler culprit theory.
On the topic of Erika's age, maybe the meta would works under different rules, but if she can marry, I say she must be at least 18 years old XD, she also mentions wanting to try smoking in episode 6.
Right? So you feel the same way about Battler, lol.
@@NobyGrand Pachinko´s Battler looks more evil than Black Battler.
I honestly like the pachinko sprites a bit more than PS3 since the PS3 ones can be kind of bland. Some of the adults look more appropriately their age. Also they gave Erika a more impressive pirate hat!
Pirate hat looks cool on her too~ But in my eyes it is a downgrade cause the jolly roger doesn't have the chopsticks and cat-like hat like the PS3 ones...
I kinda hate how I prefer some designs each art style makes me hate how we can only choose one
Oh. I am actually curious, what are some pachinko designs that you prefer more? Would love to hear.
@@NobyGrand if we’re going by each character just for short gonna call each art style (07, P3, and PA) (sent by accident still editing come back later)
Battler-07(Because he is adorable)
Beatrice-07/P3 (i’m mixed on her Because I like the gremlin look but also P3’s sad face are too cute)
Ange- PA (she looks more serious and less bored)
Stake sisters- (to be removed from the story jk, P3)
Asumu- to have an actual fucking design
Bernkabitch- A rode up her ass, also P3
Captain Kawabata- to be the one who threw Erika off the boat, 07
Chick beato- p3
Chiester 00- 07
Chiester 410- P3
Chiester 45- PA, to have shorter names
Chiester 556- to have an actual fucking character, also dick move on ange not riving her meanwhile Curses my eardrums with Sakotoro. PA
Kumasawa- P3, she looks sweet
Clair- P3, also I’m looking at umineko wiki while i’m typing this out and I actually prefer the 4th sprite of clair but idk which one that’s from.
Cornelia- to be fucking useful, 07
Dlanor- PA, but p3’s catface sprite is so good. Also i’m kidnapping her given the chance
Erika- PA, granted I really like all 3 but want her in a guillotine regardless.
Eva- P3, ik she’s old but not that old as they make her look in PA. Meanwhile 07 doesn’t look bitchy enough.
Eva Bitchrice- P3
Featherine- PA makes me horn- i mean has nice horns totally 😅
Furfur- to be not annoying, 07 is cute though.
Gaap- P3, pa made them way to big for me to handle.
Genji- none he looks at me with as much disappointment in his eyes as my father, 07
George- to not have such a huge age gap with shannon, 07. How dare the other art styles try and make him look handsome.
Gertrude- PA, her hair is really nice in that one and makes me forget she’s a pointless character.
Gaots- I’m so conflicted on the 3, mostly because of the anime showed they can have multiple designs, and I love all the goats. But if I must choose P3 because it’s the most intimidating.
hideyoshi- P3, i got no comment for this one other than Chubby Yoshi is better.
Jessica- P3, Golden Fantasia is really good to, but we all know Jessatrice would be the best design if shannon would share her clothes.
Amakuza- P3 the others make him look lame and helps me understand why Ange wants to shoot this man.
Kanon- 07 makes me see what Jessica does, i don’t agree but her choice I guess
kasumi- join Erika on the guillotine, P3
Kinzo- join BEEEEAAAATTTTTRRRRICE’s P3 club
Kruass- P3 the other two make me wonder why Natsushi didn’t agree to divorce him. Pfftt haha she should have done it regardless.
Kuma Beatrice- same as the other beatrice
Kyrie- dang girl ik why Rudolph didn’t choose you, P3
Lambda- if you didn’t look like you’re twelve would Have a amazing time with in the pub, PA.
lion- beatrice idc if you put on a suit, get your ass in PA
maria- PA makes her look so small! I love it, but P3’s evil faces gives me nightmares.
Natushi- 07, her design is too good for krauss
piece- Die the Death, sentence to death, Equalizer for your annoying ass is The DEATH! 07 is cute but I still want her to not exist.
Ronove- ah the man that makes me question my sexuality…I mean P3
Rosa- I hate you so much as a mother, but god damn it why Do I want put another baby in you?! PA
Rudolf- Slick, confident, terrible human being and lover. P3 fits best
Sakutaro- to not make my ears bleed so take your PA place and leave
Shannon- the rest of you is cute enough but you can take off the fake ass titties, p3
Nanjo- p3 too, PA makes him look like a sad fish
Hachijo- wether magic exists or not doesn’t change the fact you make me hor- i mean make me change my preference, PA
Gohda- PA, the only guy i prefer in that art style.
Virgilia- “don’t say it she’s actually kumasawa, don’t say it she’s an old lady” smash, PA
Willard- Okay I lied PA looks great here too, also I’m murdering this man to take his outfit.
Zepar- to not have a penis or Furfur to not have one whoever does needs to hack it off I can’t stop thinking about it when neither of them wear pants, Shannon! Ange! Quick being so god damn horny with these designs! Whoever is canonically responsible for them! Oh right i was talking about art style 07
TLDR: It's just a matter of preference. I actually like Pachinko sprite (except for Battler's too-spiky hair).
Actually I prefer Pachinko sprite (although Battler's hair is too spiky).
I started Umineko with the anime. So Pachinko sprite resembles them. I like how Beatrice looks so elegant in anime, and so with Pachinko sprite.
PS3 sprites at first impression look beautiful. Then i think they're less expressive compared to Pachinko sprites, and kinda look 'plastic', dunno how to describe.
But i like ps3 sprites for Battler and maybe Eva, compared to Pachinko. Wish we can choose for each character. Lol let me dream.
Really, I can't understand the hate towards Pachinko sprites. The art is beautiful, proportion is on the spot.
Really, it's all just a matter of taste. Because i dont understand why people likes Ryukishi sprite (can understand, but not my taste).
I think it's because of nostalgia too. For me, seeing Pachinko sprites makes me feel nostalgic, because it's similar to the anime version, and i was introduced to umineko in the anime version and love it.
Oh yeah, hate the boobs. Hate Kyrie's and Shannon's boobs in Pachinko sprite. Wish someone make a mod to make the boobs smaller or cover them with some fashion clothing. Also cover the underwear of the sisters. Such unnecessary fanservice (disservice)
I loooooove Erika’s pachinkos sprite
Yeee, same. The biggest downside to them being that there aren't AS many face expressions and poses as the PS3 ones.
Pachinko faces resemble the anime faces (except Battler & Eva). I like the anime version and fall in love with Umineko because of the anime. So Pachinko version is *thumbs up* (except for boobs of Kyrie and Shannon)
15:58 lol, that S can take many different meanings XD
She transcends beyond pachinko sprites to get an S no matter what, even if she doesn't even have any, lol.
@@NobyGrand thx because it could also mean S from the fact that she doesn't have a sprite to someone who hasn't read Umineko XD
It's a matter of taste and nostalgia. Nostalgia depends on which type you were introduced first.
For me, the nostalgia is anime. So Pachinko sprites i prefer.
But i dont like the boobs of Kyrie & Shannon.
I honestly dont mind any of the sprites in any art style. I more worry about the art style in the background.
The backgrounds? Oh oh. I don't think I remember them or seen them at all, lol. Wonder how those are like.
@@NobyGrandThe backgrounds for me change completely on how the Atmosphere, However they also change how the area looks in general. Like for the mansion inside it looks way more ghost like and airy while in the OG the updated it looks more lively
The old man character was a funny I'm laughing super wrinkled face hahaha and shock
Hehe.
ps3 version looks younger/childish with cleaner and rounder faces. too clean for my taste. well it's up to taste i think. but all types have their own charms i think