At the start of 1914, the various WWI naval powers wake up to find that the capital ships in their fleets have been replaced ship for ship (so the number of ships remains the same) by their WWII equivalents, as well as the necessary instruction manuals and the infrastructure to maintain, repair, and build these vessels (assume that ships that finished construction during WWI are replaced with incomplete versions of their WWII counterparts, which will be entering service at the same time as the WWI ships they are replacing) - The British find that their predreadnoughts have been replaced by WWII refit R-class, the first-generation dreadnoughts by WWII-refit QEs, and all their other dreadnoughts by WWII-refit Nelsons. The Invincibles and Indefatigables have been replaced by WWII-refit Renowns, Tiger has been replaced by Hood (1941 configuration), the Lions plus Queen Mary have been replaced by KGVs, and the WWI-era Renowns will be replaced by Vanguards once they begin construction (and still somehow enter service at the same time as the historical Renowns). - The Germans find that their entire battlecruiser force has been replaced by Scharnhorsts (early-war configuration), while their predreadnoughts have been replaced by WWII-refit Schleswig-Holsteins and all their dreadnoughts have been replaced by Bismarcks. - The Italians find that the all their capital ships save for the Cavours have been replaced with the WWII-refit Cavours, while the actual WWI-era Cavours have been replaced by Littorios (minus the shell quality issues). - The Japanese find that their Kongos have been magically replaced with their WWII refit counterparts, all their predreads are replaced with WWII-era Fusos, their early dreads have been replaced with WWII-refit Nagatos, and the WWI-era Fusos are replaced with the Yamatos. - The Americans get their predreadnoughts replaced by WWII-refit Texas, their early dreadnoughts by the WWII-refit Colorado-class, and the Standards by North Carolinas. And instead of the long, torturous design process that would eventually lead to the Lexingtons, they get handed Iowa and Alaska blueprints - The French get their entire predreadnought fleet replaced by the WWII-era Bretagnes, while their WWI-era dreadnoughts are replaced by Richelieus and the Normandies are replaced with unfinished Alsaces. How would this change the naval situation in WWI and beyond?
I will never cease to be amused by the trolling and counter-trolling between the Royal Navy and the US Navy regarding their surviving captured vessels. NEVER
I remember hearing of an exchange between US ships and British - the Americans sending "greetings from the world's biggest navy" to which the British replied "greetings from the world's *best* navy".
Right after 9/11 - there was a British Warship that was passing an American Warship - and almost the entire crew of the British Ship Manned the Railings and Saluted. So - the gestures were not always competitive. .
As an aside, (and no idea if you look at comments), A couple of years ago I bought a full rigged model from a car boot sale for my now departed mum, (she was a ship person). At the time no idea what it was, however in one of your 1812 era videos there was a picture of a ship which looked very like it and you mentioned it was the HMS Majestic. So looked it up on the internet and there was a company which produced the razeed version of that 1785 ship in model form which is identically the same as the ship I bought. So thanks for at giving us the name to that model.
Dear Drach....Thanks again. Your habit of including "historical" warships in your videos ate genius. Both the combined learning and entertaining experience about ships ,history and then you master talent in describing the how and why in warship design.
Gun counts determined a Captain’s pay and prestige and so were determined by the “main guns” not by the short range anti-personnel armament. The gun count really represents tonnage, crew numbers and role in battle rather than reflecting the number of barrels deployed.
@@mbryson2899 not really here ships generally carried more guns than their nominal complement when you included carronades and other additional pieces. A captain would be entered into the list with the date of his commission and the rate of his command. Something like H. Hornblower 1805 May, HMS Lydia 5th rate 38 currently on the South Pacific station. That list would be published at least annually so no room to pay at one rate and claim at another.
With a view Royal Naval losses due to ships running aground, next year is the 320th Anniversary of the Great Storm of 1703, when the Channel Squadron was destroyed and the navy lost apparently a fifth of its strength. Will there be Drach episode for this covering naval and civilian ship losses?
Very nice Guide! I would love to hear you talking more about frigates of the napoleonic wars / War of 1812... Especially about HMS Endymion and her sisters. ( i am currently starting to build an H0 scale model of Endymion, but it is hard to get acces to plans etc.) Might be a nice Wednesday-Video
Have you tried the National Maritime Museum in London? They have a HUGE assortment of original plans of which copies can be purchased for a fairly reasonable price.
Even as a small boy, I loved studying everything and anything about WWI and WWII, including a strong interest in naval warfare. I never liked ships from the age of sail, feeling that they were ancient and boring. Even as an adult, I still carried that silly bias. Now, after watching Drach vids for 3 or 4 years, I find the age of wooden sailing ships riveting. The Royal Navy during that era is of special interest to me. Overall, no one was better. Also, because of Drach, I watched a British series that I would've ignored before. It was Horatio Hornblower, and I loved that show. Only Drach knows how realistic Hornblower was, but to this American, it perfectly conveyed the flavor and feel of Royal Navy badass-ery in the age of sail. Thanks, Drach, for expanding my interests.
I hope you've watched the movie "Master and Commander" - if not, get hold of it any way you can. You won't be disappointed. And then read the books it was based upon. There are 20 of them - a real adventure.
@@stevenlowe3026 Yes, sir, I've seen it. I really enjoyed it. The guy who played the naturalist/ surgeon was good. I believe he was Chaucer in Knight's Tale. Crowe, though usually I'm not a big fan, I think did a good job portraying a great Royal Navy captain. The kind that fighting sailors will follow. My favorite character is the kid who loses his arm. What an unquenchable warrior spirit that kid had! If British children were like that, no wonder the sun never set on the British Empire. I also liked how ALL the officers held Nelson in near god level reverence. I don't know if that universal reverence was realistic, but I enjoyed that dynamic. Maybe Drachinifel knows? Lol.
@@jamesmasonaltair1062 Yes, Paul Bettany played Stephen Maturin, the doctor, and yes he was also Chaucer in "A Knight's Tale". He looked nothing like O'Brian described him in the novels, but now he is my mental picture of the man. Have you read the novels? IIRC someone did a youtube video on the subject - "Master and Commander, and How We Portray Historical Figures"
@@jamesmasonaltair1062 Hi James by all accounts that I have read and studied the reverence for Nelson was very real! He was every bit the hero that England needed at the time. He was an inspiring leader and a great tactician. His personal failures where overlooked by and large even by the British Admiralty where he did step on many toes. Pretty amazing guy, the British Navy was full of pretty competent Officers but Nelson was kind of the epitome of them. Have a great day! Mike 🇨🇦
I’d personally love to see a video on HMS Endeavour (James Cook, launched 1764). Personal interest tbh hahaha thanks Drach! Keep up the content absolutely love it and it’s great for my clients :)
Hello drachinifel Can u one day do a vidéo about l'Océan? Its a french Man o war considered to this day as the best ever man o war disigned. It was in service 1790 to 1856. It have a glorius history it was strong and as fast as a frigate and it was huge... I will love u do a video about this ship. Thx
Stephen Decatur's name is pronounced (/dɪˈkeɪtər/) Dee Kaa Tur. (He actually has a number of towns and counties named after him in the US -- he was a pretty big deal in his day).
And quizzically a rock in Buzzards Bay, not to far to the west of the entrance channel to New Bedford Harbor, about 1.75 miles on a bearing of 162° depth at mlw is only 7 feet.
@@stoutyyyy Ha no, they definitely wouldn't have taken me lol I used to fish out of New Bedford and had been sailing around Buzzards Bay since the late 80s Just know the area exceedingly well but I do have a masters license, but its only a 1,600 ton, not an unlimited.
Another informative video, thank you. That drawing of the one ship with studding sails (?) looked like something that would have been wonderful to see. Also, love how the reuse of captured ships happened .. kind of picture it like two kids playing in a sandbox "and this is mine, and so this one (grabs other kid's toy)"
@@Marin3r101 HMS Macedonian was demasted and struck her colors loosing only 43 men, about 14% of her crew compliment, probably one of the captures of a sailing ship of war with the least amount of casualties ever. This "little" loss of live compared with other engagements was probably the main reason that british captain never commanded again, the admirality thinking he barely fought at all with such little losses.
@@Marin3r101 Crews on both sides die while fighting! Ships that surrendered had their wounded treated. Slaughtering a ships crew would insure that no one ever surrendered and that your crews were at the same risk, war sucks but they were honorable about it. I believe there were many ships lost with out a fight also. I also find it fascinating how captured ships would fight for many decades for different nations then.
Captain Bolitho Hornblower and Jack Aubrey often refer to ships as having 'French Lines' and I suppose there must have been English, Dutch and American Lines. I always wondered what the difference was.
Check Drach's video on hull forms for the technical details. I am reading the Kydd series by Julian Stockwin and his novel "Victory" deals with the difference between French and British lines fairly extensively. The captured French frigate examined has a finer entry and overall slimmer hull form that makes for a faster, albeit wetter ship with less hold space and therefore endurance.
Nations tended to have slightly different approaches to ship-building, reflecting different priorities or concerns. British favored relatively short and stout ships with lots of internal space that were cheap to build and maintain; they tended to be a bit slower on average. The French favored longer and thinner ships that gave up internal space for better "lines" that cut through the water better, generally resulting in higher speed. Dutch ships were inclined to be short and stout like the British, but also focused on shallower drafts to allow operation in shallower waters, and they often still dual-purposed their warships as merchantmen or used merchantmen as inspiration for their warships, ensuring Dutch ships all had distinct features that made it obvious who built them. American "lines" were not so much unique as Americans had inherited solidly British naval architectural traditions and built their ships mostly alone British lines; they more focused on a smaller number of individually powerful ships where the British might have favored a larger number of cheaper ships.
@@genericpersonx333 It's interesting to compare the Napoleonic American navy with the Imperial Japanese Navy with respect to their presumed rival across the ocean.
@@genericpersonx333 for people wondering why, the strategic situation was that the Royal Navy was blockading the French fleet in its ports for most of the war, so British ships were designed to have good seakeeping abilities and endurance (more hull space=more supplies). French ships tended to be at sea for far shorter periods of time, usually attacking British trade and often avoiding action, hence they were built to be faster than their British counterparts.
I think the men on these ships when seeing an enemy must have been struck with such mixed emotions of being amazed by the beauty of these ships yet the fear of the terror that comes with them
I see the ship naming group went on an ancient Greek tangent during the construction of these ships. That couldn't possibly have anything to do with classicism in the British upper class and a certain average height Emperor across from Dover taking on Roman symbolism, could it?
Note: looking at YT sub feed while half asleep leads to memes controlling your brain, as I had to double take at the guide name since my brain misread it as HMS Livesey. 🤦🏻♀️Then again, considering HMS Menelaus ended up as a hospital ship... 🤔
@@Drachinifel Yes - on becoming an admiral one started as a Rear Admiral of the Blue, then one was next promoted to being Rear Admiral of the Red, then the White, then upward to *Vice* Admiral of the Blue, then Red, then White, and finally a *full* Admiral of the Blue, then Red, then White. After that, presumably, one became God . . .
@@stevenlowe3026 only if he got his CMG, KCMF or GCMG. These are the 3 tanks of the Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George - the 1st letter refers means Companion, Knight Commander oang Knight Grand Commander. More colloquially, especially in the British establishment CMG means Call Me God, KCMG means Kindly Call Me God and GCMG means God Calls Me God.
Beautiful frigates, with excellent lines for British designs (British designs were good, obviously; just not terribly attractive to look at compared to their French counterparts).
Pinned post for Q&A :)
Was their any attempts to use Balloons attached to age of sail ships for recon?
You mentioned in a previous drydock that it it possible to get steel to explode. Care to elaborate?
At the start of 1914, the various WWI naval powers wake up to find that the capital ships in their fleets have been replaced ship for ship (so the number of ships remains the same) by their WWII equivalents, as well as the necessary instruction manuals and the infrastructure to maintain, repair, and build these vessels (assume that ships that finished construction during WWI are replaced with incomplete versions of their WWII counterparts, which will be entering service at the same time as the WWI ships they are replacing)
- The British find that their predreadnoughts have been replaced by WWII refit R-class, the first-generation dreadnoughts by WWII-refit QEs, and all their other dreadnoughts by WWII-refit Nelsons. The Invincibles and Indefatigables have been replaced by WWII-refit Renowns, Tiger has been replaced by Hood (1941 configuration), the Lions plus Queen Mary have been replaced by KGVs, and the WWI-era Renowns will be replaced by Vanguards once they begin construction (and still somehow enter service at the same time as the historical Renowns).
- The Germans find that their entire battlecruiser force has been replaced by Scharnhorsts (early-war configuration), while their predreadnoughts have been replaced by WWII-refit Schleswig-Holsteins and all their dreadnoughts have been replaced by Bismarcks.
- The Italians find that the all their capital ships save for the Cavours have been replaced with the WWII-refit Cavours, while the actual WWI-era Cavours have been replaced by Littorios (minus the shell quality issues).
- The Japanese find that their Kongos have been magically replaced with their WWII refit counterparts, all their predreads are replaced with WWII-era Fusos, their early dreads have been replaced with WWII-refit Nagatos, and the WWI-era Fusos are replaced with the Yamatos.
- The Americans get their predreadnoughts replaced by WWII-refit Texas, their early dreadnoughts by the WWII-refit Colorado-class, and the Standards by North Carolinas. And instead of the long, torturous design process that would eventually lead to the Lexingtons, they get handed Iowa and Alaska blueprints
- The French get their entire predreadnought fleet replaced by the WWII-era Bretagnes, while their WWI-era dreadnoughts are replaced by Richelieus and the Normandies are replaced with unfinished Alsaces.
How would this change the naval situation in WWI and beyond?
Could you do a video on the German WW2 minesweepers? Like the R and M class?
Hi Drach. How were paravane kites controlled, and what were their primary uses on a warship?
I will never cease to be amused by the trolling and counter-trolling between the Royal Navy and the US Navy regarding their surviving captured vessels. NEVER
It does make you chuckle.
You know there had to be a lot of smirking at the cheekiness between those crews lol
With plenty of cheeky signals back and forth, I'm sure.
I remember hearing of an exchange between US ships and British - the Americans sending "greetings from the world's biggest navy" to which the British replied "greetings from the world's *best* navy".
Family rivalry.
Right after 9/11 - there was a British Warship that was passing an American Warship - and almost the entire crew of the British Ship Manned the Railings and Saluted. So - the gestures were not always competitive.
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Good to see one of Jack Aubrey's commands getting a video of her own.
Me too I love those books
Leopard! I WANT HMS LEOPARD …. please ….. I love the unloved.
I knew I heard that name before 🤩
Post captain ties for best frigate action along with Mauritius command. The way o’Brian describes the action of October 4th is phenomenal
We need one of the real HMS Surprise now!
"fell victim to the single largest cause of loss in the Napoleonic wars, running aground."
Poor Boney. Outdone by some sandbanks
As an aside, (and no idea if you look at comments), A couple of years ago I bought a full rigged model from a car boot sale for my now departed mum, (she was a ship person). At the time no idea what it was, however in one of your 1812 era videos there was a picture of a ship which looked very like it and you mentioned it was the HMS Majestic. So looked it up on the internet and there was a company which produced the razeed version of that 1785 ship in model form which is identically the same as the ship I bought. So thanks for at giving us the name to that model.
Timewarped Nelson: "Wait what, Bellerophon _Class_? Oh! The Repeat Dreadnoughts! Why didn't you say so?"
Dear Drach....Thanks again. Your habit of including "historical" warships in your videos ate genius. Both the combined learning and entertaining experience about ships ,history and then you master talent in describing the how and why in warship design.
6:30 "The Fighting Temeraire"'s lesser known half- brother. Still a beautifully executed painting.
Sweet, something to listen to on the bridge while I make sure our brow doesn’t up and run away!
Maisleading gun counting? Before the treaty era? I'm shocked!
Gun counts determined a Captain’s pay and prestige and so were determined by the “main guns” not by the short range anti-personnel armament. The gun count really represents tonnage, crew numbers and role in battle rather than reflecting the number of barrels deployed.
@@davidwright7193 Perhaps it was also a dodge on the Exchequer as well?
@@mbryson2899 not really here ships generally carried more guns than their nominal complement when you included carronades and other additional pieces. A captain would be entered into the list with the date of his commission and the rate of his command. Something like H. Hornblower 1805 May, HMS Lydia 5th rate 38 currently on the South Pacific station. That list would be published at least annually so no room to pay at one rate and claim at another.
"Mon Capitane, she is only a 32 gun ship, we can easily best her - Hang on, How Many Gunports!?
Cheating English Roast Beefs!"
@@richardcowling7381 incroyable!
With a view Royal Naval losses due to ships running aground, next year is the 320th Anniversary of the Great Storm of 1703, when the Channel Squadron was destroyed and the navy lost apparently a fifth of its strength. Will there be Drach episode for this covering naval and civilian ship losses?
We appreciate the gift of another video, Drach! (and previously for the Macedonia, sorry it took so long)
Very nice Guide!
I would love to hear you talking more about frigates of the napoleonic wars / War of 1812... Especially about HMS Endymion and her sisters.
( i am currently starting to build an H0 scale model of Endymion, but it is hard to get acces to plans etc.)
Might be a nice Wednesday-Video
Have you tried the National Maritime Museum in London? They have a HUGE assortment of original plans of which copies can be purchased for a fairly reasonable price.
Ah, the best way to start a Saturday.
Everything I know about the HMS Lively, I learned from Patrick O'Brian.
And I have never regretted it!
ruclips.net/video/HZK9DMeO38U/видео.html
A glass of wine with you sir!
@@ProSimex84 Just a jobbing captain taking care of her while her true captain attends Parliament.
@@ProSimex84 "May I trouble you for the salt?"
@@Wolfeson28 he said it in the most obliging way.
I would love to hear you explore other ships of the age of sail from other nations.
Why?
Finally, someone's making a video explaining the Lively walk meme!
Absolutely wonderful! I love when you do age of sail content! Please make more, would love to see a L’Hermione video!
Happy Saturday! A new Guide!
Neat ships. Sailing ships look so beautiful, and these were among the last to serve.
These pictures are great.
@@myparceltape1169
Drach’s eye for great images is legendary.
Guess HMS Lively isn't so lively anymore after running aground
Boo.
The next HMS LIVELY was lost in the same manner!
Even as a small boy, I loved studying everything and anything about WWI and WWII, including a strong interest in naval warfare. I never liked ships from the age of sail, feeling that they were ancient and boring. Even as an adult, I still carried that silly bias.
Now, after watching Drach vids for 3 or 4 years, I find the age of wooden sailing ships riveting. The Royal Navy during that era is of special interest to me. Overall, no one was better. Also, because of Drach, I watched a British series that I would've ignored before. It was Horatio Hornblower, and I loved that show. Only Drach knows how realistic Hornblower was, but to this American, it perfectly conveyed the flavor and feel of Royal Navy badass-ery in the age of sail. Thanks, Drach, for expanding my interests.
I hope you've watched the movie "Master and Commander" - if not, get hold of it any way you can. You won't be disappointed. And then read the books it was based upon. There are 20 of them - a real adventure.
@@stevenlowe3026 Yes, sir, I've seen it. I really enjoyed it. The guy who played the naturalist/ surgeon was good. I believe he was Chaucer in Knight's Tale. Crowe, though usually I'm not a big fan, I think did a good job portraying a great Royal Navy captain. The kind that fighting sailors will follow. My favorite character is the kid who loses his arm. What an unquenchable warrior spirit that kid had! If British children were like that, no wonder the sun never set on the British Empire.
I also liked how ALL the officers held Nelson in near god level reverence. I don't know if that universal reverence was realistic, but I enjoyed that dynamic. Maybe Drachinifel knows? Lol.
@@jamesmasonaltair1062 Yes, Paul Bettany played Stephen Maturin, the doctor, and yes he was also Chaucer in "A Knight's Tale". He looked nothing like O'Brian described him in the novels, but now he is my mental picture of the man. Have you read the novels? IIRC someone did a youtube video on the subject - "Master and Commander, and How We Portray Historical Figures"
@@jamesmasonaltair1062 Hi James by all accounts that I have read and studied the reverence for Nelson was very real! He was every bit the hero that England needed at the time. He was an inspiring leader and a great tactician. His personal failures where overlooked by and large even by the British Admiralty where he did step on many toes.
Pretty amazing guy, the British Navy was full of pretty competent Officers but Nelson was kind of the epitome of them.
Have a great day!
Mike 🇨🇦
@@stevenlowe3026 I haven't read them, but definitely will do so now. And I will check that vid out.
Short and sweet. Enjoyed this show. Happy Trails
I’d personally love to see a video on HMS Endeavour (James Cook, launched 1764). Personal interest tbh hahaha thanks Drach! Keep up the content absolutely love it and it’s great for my clients :)
Hello drachinifel
Can u one day do a vidéo about l'Océan?
Its a french Man o war considered to this day as the best ever man o war disigned. It was in service 1790 to 1856.
It have a glorius history it was strong and as fast as a frigate and it was huge...
I will love u do a video about this ship.
Thx
Not yet :)
A video about it would be nice! Best Man o War? Sounds like french propaganda to me, specially since it never won a fight, clarification needed! ;D
@@Drachinifel thx ;)
@@hernerweisenberg7052 go see its wikipedia page i swear it was the best disigned man o war...
France have quality ships briish have quantity
When is the HMS Endymion video coming?
Stephen Decatur's name is pronounced (/dɪˈkeɪtər/) Dee Kaa Tur. (He actually has a number of towns and counties named after him in the US -- he was a pretty big deal in his day).
And quizzically a rock in Buzzards Bay, not to far to the west of the entrance channel to New Bedford Harbor, about 1.75 miles on a bearing of 162° depth at mlw is only 7 feet.
@@jaysonlima7196 let me guess, Mass Maritime?
@@stoutyyyy Ha no, they definitely wouldn't have taken me lol I used to fish out of New Bedford and had been sailing around Buzzards Bay since the late 80s Just know the area exceedingly well but I do have a masters license, but its only a 1,600 ton, not an unlimited.
Awesome work 👍 thank you
Another informative video, thank you. That drawing of the one ship with studding sails (?) looked like something that would have been wonderful to see.
Also, love how the reuse of captured ships happened .. kind of picture it like two kids playing in a sandbox "and this is mine, and so this one (grabs other kid's toy)"
This is so minimizing. You do realize they killed the original crew right? Or you just being dense?
@@Marin3r101 HMS Macedonian was demasted and struck her colors loosing only 43 men, about 14% of her crew compliment, probably one of the captures of a sailing ship of war with the least amount of casualties ever. This "little" loss of live compared with other engagements was probably the main reason that british captain never commanded again, the admirality thinking he barely fought at all with such little losses.
@@Marin3r101 Crews on both sides die while fighting! Ships that surrendered had their wounded treated. Slaughtering a ships crew would insure that no one ever surrendered and that your crews were at the same risk, war sucks but they were honorable about it. I believe there were many ships lost with out a fight also.
I also find it fascinating how captured ships would fight for many decades for different nations then.
@@Marin3r101 I fear that you are simply being denser than him. Do you get your knowledge from the pirates of the Caribbean films?
A very lively video!
It's almost comical, thinking about USS Macedonian sailing alongside HMS President. Talk about flexing!
Ah- those cheeky Yankee Doodles....... "fotobombing" the HMS President!
thanks
Pretti bote is money bote.
Oh wait. Dude, that's cold.
Could you look up the USS Confederacy and USS Alliance, think those Frigates deserve their own video.
Captain Bolitho Hornblower and Jack Aubrey often refer to ships as having 'French Lines' and I suppose there must have been English, Dutch and American Lines. I always wondered what the difference was.
Check Drach's video on hull forms for the technical details. I am reading the Kydd series by Julian Stockwin and his novel "Victory" deals with the difference between French and British lines fairly extensively. The captured French frigate examined has a finer entry and overall slimmer hull form that makes for a faster, albeit wetter ship with less hold space and therefore endurance.
Nations tended to have slightly different approaches to ship-building, reflecting different priorities or concerns. British favored relatively short and stout ships with lots of internal space that were cheap to build and maintain; they tended to be a bit slower on average. The French favored longer and thinner ships that gave up internal space for better "lines" that cut through the water better, generally resulting in higher speed. Dutch ships were inclined to be short and stout like the British, but also focused on shallower drafts to allow operation in shallower waters, and they often still dual-purposed their warships as merchantmen or used merchantmen as inspiration for their warships, ensuring Dutch ships all had distinct features that made it obvious who built them. American "lines" were not so much unique as Americans had inherited solidly British naval architectural traditions and built their ships mostly alone British lines; they more focused on a smaller number of individually powerful ships where the British might have favored a larger number of cheaper ships.
@@genericpersonx333 It's interesting to compare the Napoleonic American navy with the Imperial Japanese Navy with respect to their presumed rival across the ocean.
@@genericpersonx333 for people wondering why, the strategic situation was that the Royal Navy was blockading the French fleet in its ports for most of the war, so British ships were designed to have good seakeeping abilities and endurance (more hull space=more supplies). French ships tended to be at sea for far shorter periods of time, usually attacking British trade and often avoiding action, hence they were built to be faster than their British counterparts.
The good opening still here
Is it possible to make a short video of the frigate Geyser? Thanks
I think the men on these ships when seeing an enemy must have been struck with such mixed emotions of being amazed by the beauty of these ships yet the fear of the terror that comes with them
3:29: "...since the Royal Navy had adopted and widely deployed the Karen Aid..."
Brilliant Google Automatic Subtitling!
🤣
I see the ship naming group went on an ancient Greek tangent during the construction of these ships. That couldn't possibly have anything to do with classicism in the British upper class and a certain average height Emperor across from Dover taking on Roman symbolism, could it?
How about reviewing the SS Minnow, of Gilligans Island theme?
Note: looking at YT sub feed while half asleep leads to memes controlling your brain, as I had to double take at the guide name since my brain misread it as HMS Livesey. 🤦🏻♀️Then again, considering HMS Menelaus ended up as a hospital ship... 🤔
5:11 the Royal Navy using the Blue Ensign; I thought the Blue Ensign was for things like yachts?
Back in those days the red, blue and white ensigns were all RN flags for different formations or parts of Fleets:)
@@Drachinifel Yes - on becoming an admiral one started as a Rear Admiral of the Blue, then one was next promoted to being Rear Admiral of the Red, then the White, then upward to *Vice* Admiral of the Blue, then Red, then White, and finally a *full* Admiral of the Blue, then Red, then White. After that, presumably, one became God . . .
@@stevenlowe3026 only if he got his CMG, KCMF or GCMG. These are the 3 tanks of the Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George - the 1st letter refers means Companion, Knight Commander oang Knight Grand Commander. More colloquially, especially in the British establishment CMG means Call Me God, KCMG means Kindly Call Me God and GCMG means God Calls Me God.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 Love it.
Whats the longest time between names of ships? RN and also the most continuously named ship?
Dr. Livesey is such a chad that there was a warship named after him before he was even created.
I have seen too many memes. It was only on the third reading that I did not see "HMS Livesy".
nice brig !
👍
Is it wrong that I read the title as HMS Livesly and expected some Phonk?
Beautiful frigates, with excellent lines for British designs (British designs were good, obviously; just not terribly attractive to look at compared to their French counterparts).
Do Surprise already.
Nice!
i read this as Hms livesey
17th I will try harder!
2:19 so pretty.
HMS Livery 🇬🇧
great name for a ship lol
:)
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