The gapeing in the back and the sides is because of the bust taking more fabric to go over. Her dress tecnically has it too, it's just less because her bust is smaller (outside of using a super flowy fabric that would than hang over the shirring instead) the only way around it is to make the shirring on a curve. It would have to be lower from apex to apex and then reach the higher level at the side seam. So the front would be measurement from overbust above the apex to underbust underneath the apex + 2isch cm and the back using the difference between the same heights in the back.
You did such a good job in not only explaining how to make Genell’s original pattern, but in realizing alterations/adjustments were needed for you. The vest/bodice you added certainly made a huge difference in both the fit and look of your creation. You must remember that she only shows tutorials on clothing suitable for her body type, and that is why they always look good on her. Don’t limit yourself to trying to replicate what she makes. You do you!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for addressing the reality of these trendy designs for larger sizes. They are not generalisable across sizing. Great job in evaluating the changes needed.
oh my goodness! Your dress is adorable! I love the color and the way you've styled it! linen is going to be very comfterable, always a good choice. Thank you for the tips, I want to make this dress too.
I’m sure someone else has probably mentioned this but taking body circumferences only works if there isn’t much different between your back half and front half, aka you have a small bust and flat stomach. If you have a large bust and or a belly I find it’s best to make the front and back in different sizes.
I wish I could have seen this before attempting her “easy shirred dress” tutorial that she uploaded. The premise was similar (2 rectangles for the body and two for the sleeves). I made a dress with her instructions and it came out far too big for me and the sleeves were ENORMOUS. I ended up cutting the dress straight down the front side, taking it in like 4” then sewing it back together and doing the same to the back too for it to at least fit my body a bit better but I gotta still sort out the sleeves. It’s always a gamble with these types of tutorials as a larger bodied person. I just wanna find ways to make easy dresses for myself too 😅😭 I appreciate this video tho as it was very informative and I will know these things now when I move on to making this dress too. ❤
Yes!!! That's exactly why I made the video, I'm so glad you found it! Hopefully I will get to some easy beginner tutorials myself soon and I can help everyone out with some size inclusive options ☺️ thanks so much for watching and giving me such a lovely comment 💕
@@amyofmelbourne I’m excited to see what tutorials you come up with that are easier to tackle for folks new to sewing who are plus sized! I love sewing and making my own clothing but it’s def challenging. Also love the tip about the elastic on the back and will probably add that to the dress I’m currently making now 🙌🏽
This video has saved my bacon! I couldn't work out why the Rosery Apparel shirred dress I'm making just wasn't working... and now I understand. I think I will be able to fix it now. Thank you!!!
Thank you so much for this video. I was just about to try doing her tutorial exactly how it was and now I know to make some alterations first. This just likely saved me a bunch of fabric and time.
I bought a similar dress from Kmart for $30 which fit me well and copied that but added tiers to the skirt section. I watched Roseryapparel and other videos and analysed how the dresses sat on the makers’ bodies. I knew that doubling the chest measurement was going to make me look bigger so I made it 1.5 times like the Kmart dress. My sleeves don’t fall off my shoulders but I’ll cut a bigger triangle out of them and the bodice pieces next time so they will sit comfortably over bra straps. The resultant dress slims me down because less fabric used…so I will make a couple more dresses in different colours and probably add other features such as chest and sleeve ties.
That sounds fantastic! I love that as makers, we can find ready to wear clothes and duplicate them or use them to help us understand how a new piece is likely to fit. Thanks for watching! ❤️
Well done for giving this dress a go. When you made your sleeves with less fabric I thought that would've been a good idea for the back rectangle. So you just added an extra 25% to the sleeve so just an extra 25% to the back piece could've been all you needed. Otherwise I can see myself having a bust size bubble of material on my back. It's great that you found a way for keeping the sleeves on!! Thanks again for showing us how to do this !!!
I definitely do and did have a busy size bubble at the back and honestly I thought I would before I began but for the sake of following the original I went with it. Now that I have shirred the whole back bodice section it's a lot better but if I was doing it from scratch I think your right, 25% would be perfect! Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you so much for this video. Although I probably wont attempt this dress, just seeing the alterations you made has given me some ideas of the challenges I will face with my own body. As a relatively new sewer I haven't been game to try and sew anything for my upper body which is plus sized with a spinal curvature meaning nothing is quite where patterns tell me it should be.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it and found it useful. Learning to fit is one of the biggest learning curves for everyone and is especially steep for plus sizes or those outside the "standard" if you have any fitting issues or anything you want help with let me know and I'll try to cover it in a video 😁
I have issues with milkmaid sleeves too. I have worked out that if i sew a channel along the top of the sleeve leaving a gap in the middle I can put the elastic in and if it’s bugging me because it’s too big I can knot the elastic in the middle and then sew the gap closed. Works great
Great how you solved your problems and made it work for you. Just a couple of questions/remarks. I watched Rosery apparel’s video and there wasn’t a tie. She shirred the whole bodice and put elastic in the top of the dress (not a tie) and the sleeves. Also she cut the triangles in both the sleeves and the shirred body to give an adapted armhole which helped the sleeves stay on.
My main problem with this dress when I made it was the lack of arm holes, which makes the back sag, I found jess dang's shirred dress video which helped me when making dresses like this.
Also when I make dresses like this I make the bodice and skirt different pieces, the bodice being 1.5 x my bust and the skirt being what ever I want. I still mainly use rectangles but they have arm holes.
Thankyou so much for showing us your problems and how you fixed it! I love the stays they really enhance the dress..I love the colour of your linen too. I’m also looking at you old machine in the background I think I have one similar….a hand cranked singer I purchased from a garage sale for $35!
Thank you for such detail on how this pattern worked and the adjustments that you needed. I’ve been thinking of making this dress but had stalled on how to avoid the sleeves dropping, I’m broad shouldered, and was considering some back ties. Also my bust size doesn’t “scale up” along with my hips so was worried about having the fabric volume up top.
I'm so glad you found my video helpful! There are a couple of pattern companies with milkmaid style dresses now, petite stitchery has one. That might be a good option to help you out ☺️
This is why I only attempt skirts when it comes to DIY no pattern tutorials. 😅 The only fit issue is the bulk of fabric gathering needed for the skirt to fit my huge hips sitting at a significantly smaller waist measurement, very beginner friendly adjustment! 😊
Thank you so much for making this video!! I have been wanting to make a milkmaid dress like this, and your process has helped me tremendously. :) I am also a tall, big lady, and I will take some of your tips and make some changes of my own. I think I might make the sleeves a ragland style, and do the elastic and drawstrip through the whole neckline, including the tops of the sleeves. Hopefully that works out!! Lol. I also love how you styled it at the end with the corset top and dark lipstick! Soooo cute. 💜🖤
Oh I really love that vest corset piece you added at the end! If that's something you made, is there a tutorial for it? Thank you for explaining why the sizing up doesn't work by just scaling up the measurements.. It seems obvious now but not something I could get my head around until watching!
Thank you so much! The best isn't available, yet! It will be a pattern to be released in late 2024. I am in need of pattern testers though so you can head to my website and sign up or join my Facebook testers group
I made Rosery Apparel's Pansy dress, in it's largest size for my wife (I think it was a 22, though it might have been a 20?). Overall it worked, but I found that the neckline needed to be lowered for it to work for Samantha. It's neckline is fairly high naturally, but when you bring it up to the plus-size realm, it just doesn't account for chunkier necks, and duck in a bit. Thankfully I only needed to lower it by about 1.5-2cm.
I would love to make more of her patterns, fingers crossed she comes out with an extended size range soon. She has told me that it's in the works so hopefully soon!
Thanks for sharing! I would like to try some of her patterns but it’s hard not seeing what they look like on plus sized bodies. Even though Janelle is lovely, it’s hard for me to take the plunge and purchase a pattern that may not work out for my shape.
@@amyofmelbourne I really hope that when she does, she is able to collaborate with you (or anyone else really) to not just fit-test her plus sizes, but to include plus-sized and disabled models on her website.
@@historical.isolde7918 absolutely, that would be the ideal! I hope that's what all pattern makers are striving for. Actually even more than that I want all pattern makers and clothing makers to consider accessibility as well as representation when creating their garments 🙌
I personally will never sew a “only x amount of rectangles garment” again. The end result will just never be flattering, especially if you’re not super skinny. 🙈 Maybe the Mabel dress by Tilly and the buttons could be an option for you, it has a pretty similar look. You’re stays look gorgeous, they really tie the look together. 😃
Thanks so much for watching! I was thinking of trying to Petite Stitcher co Milkmaid dress, looks really lovely! I completely agree with your point, though it can be good for new sewers, if it doesn't work on different body types it can end up being discouraging. I really hope that if new sewers see my video it will help them get through their first fitting issues and the discouragement that can come with sewing. There is nothing worse than putting in a huge amount of time, effort and money only to have it not fit!
thank you for your video, but would you consider not playing any background music, just your voice....I find the music distracting. thank you most people don't understand that plus size is not just about adding inches every where....
Well I would absolutely love to but I haven't released it yet! It should be released really soon, I want to get the grading absolutely perfect, if you sign up for my email list I will be sending out a tester call soon. Thanks for the lovely feedback! ❤️❤️❤️
This is what I was afraid of watching her video too, the way the sleeves and neckline would sit on my wide shoulders. Yeah ok.. Tapering them it is then.
That is definitely another one of my problems and I am determined to figure it out. The sleeve has to come across the body far enough to cover but still give the nice square neckline.
The gapeing in the back and the sides is because of the bust taking more fabric to go over. Her dress tecnically has it too, it's just less because her bust is smaller (outside of using a super flowy fabric that would than hang over the shirring instead) the only way around it is to make the shirring on a curve. It would have to be lower from apex to apex and then reach the higher level at the side seam. So the front would be measurement from overbust above the apex to underbust underneath the apex + 2isch cm and the back using the difference between the same heights in the back.
Brilliant suggestions, thank you so much!
Thank you so much for walking through the changes you did !! I really did appreciate it !!
You are so welcome!
You did such a good job in not only explaining how to make Genell’s original pattern, but in realizing alterations/adjustments were needed for you. The vest/bodice you added certainly made a huge difference in both the fit and look of your creation. You must remember that she only shows tutorials on clothing suitable for her body type, and that is why they always look good on her. Don’t limit yourself to trying to replicate what she makes. You do you!
Awe thank you and thanks for watching!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for addressing the reality of these trendy designs for larger sizes. They are not generalisable across sizing. Great job in evaluating the changes needed.
Thank you and thanks for watching! I hope it helps!
oh my goodness! Your dress is adorable! I love the color and the way you've styled it! linen is going to be very comfterable, always a good choice. Thank you for the tips, I want to make this dress too.
Thanks so much for watching! I hope it helps and I would love to see your version! 😁
I’ve tried to make this style dress so many times and I’ve always had the same issues! Thank you for showing the why and how to fix it!
Yay!!!! I'm so so glad I could help you!!! If you make another one, please share it with me so I can see your success! 😍
I’m sure someone else has probably mentioned this but taking body circumferences only works if there isn’t much different between your back half and front half, aka you have a small bust and flat stomach. If you have a large bust and or a belly I find it’s best to make the front and back in different sizes.
Or just set the sleeves further back! :)
Very excited to have another Australian RUclipsr! Great video. Look forward to seeing more.
Thanks so much for watching!
The bodice over the top really transforms the dress and gives it the wow factor
Thanks!
I wish I could have seen this before attempting her “easy shirred dress” tutorial that she uploaded. The premise was similar (2 rectangles for the body and two for the sleeves). I made a dress with her instructions and it came out far too big for me and the sleeves were ENORMOUS. I ended up cutting the dress straight down the front side, taking it in like 4” then sewing it back together and doing the same to the back too for it to at least fit my body a bit better but I gotta still sort out the sleeves. It’s always a gamble with these types of tutorials as a larger bodied person. I just wanna find ways to make easy dresses for myself too 😅😭
I appreciate this video tho as it was very informative and I will know these things now when I move on to making this dress too. ❤
Yes!!! That's exactly why I made the video, I'm so glad you found it! Hopefully I will get to some easy beginner tutorials myself soon and I can help everyone out with some size inclusive options ☺️ thanks so much for watching and giving me such a lovely comment 💕
@@amyofmelbourne I’m excited to see what tutorials you come up with that are easier to tackle for folks new to sewing who are plus sized! I love sewing and making my own clothing but it’s def challenging. Also love the tip about the elastic on the back and will probably add that to the dress I’m currently making now 🙌🏽
This video has saved my bacon! I couldn't work out why the Rosery Apparel shirred dress I'm making just wasn't working... and now I understand. I think I will be able to fix it now. Thank you!!!
Amazing! That makes me Soo happy!!!!!
ha that was so cute at the end...i like how you did your adjustments...i have a hard time fitting this style on me...tfs:)
It was more of a learning curve than I was expecting but I know the next one I make will be amazing 🤩
Thank you so much for this video. I was just about to try doing her tutorial exactly how it was and now I know to make some alterations first. This just likely saved me a bunch of fabric and time.
I'm so glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
Looks great with the vest! Great you persevered.
Thank you and thanks for watching
Love how you made it your own!
I bought a similar dress from Kmart for $30 which fit me well and copied that but added tiers to the skirt section. I watched Roseryapparel and other videos and analysed how the dresses sat on the makers’ bodies. I knew that doubling the chest measurement was going to make me look bigger so I made it 1.5 times like the Kmart dress. My sleeves don’t fall off my shoulders but I’ll cut a bigger triangle out of them and the bodice pieces next time so they will sit comfortably over bra straps. The resultant dress slims me down because less fabric used…so I will make a couple more dresses in different colours and probably add other features such as chest and sleeve ties.
That sounds fantastic! I love that as makers, we can find ready to wear clothes and duplicate them or use them to help us understand how a new piece is likely to fit. Thanks for watching! ❤️
@@amyofmelbourne oh thanks for the video. I’ll keep watching if you make more 👍
A true delight to see how to adapt these gorgeous patterns to fit a shape and size closer to my own. Thank you!
You are so welcome! Thanks so much for watching ❤️
Thank you so much! Such a kind comment and thank you for watching ☺️
Well done for giving this dress a go.
When you made your sleeves with less fabric I thought that would've been a good idea for the back rectangle. So you just added an extra 25% to the sleeve so just an extra 25% to the back piece could've been all you needed. Otherwise I can see myself having a bust size bubble of material on my back.
It's great that you found a way for keeping the sleeves on!!
Thanks again for showing us how to do this !!!
I definitely do and did have a busy size bubble at the back and honestly I thought I would before I began but for the sake of following the original I went with it.
Now that I have shirred the whole back bodice section it's a lot better but if I was doing it from scratch I think your right, 25% would be perfect!
Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you for the sleeve fix! I love that look but hate arguing with my clothes.
(From the bottom of my rolled shoulders and big bosoms!)
@@emilymiller82 yes exactly that! I'm glad you enjoyed my video, thanks for watching!
oh and i do like the stays! def take a look when you release it
Yay thank you! 😍
Thank you so much for this video. Although I probably wont attempt this dress, just seeing the alterations you made has given me some ideas of the challenges I will face with my own body. As a relatively new sewer I haven't been game to try and sew anything for my upper body which is plus sized with a spinal curvature meaning nothing is quite where patterns tell me it should be.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it and found it useful. Learning to fit is one of the biggest learning curves for everyone and is especially steep for plus sizes or those outside the "standard" if you have any fitting issues or anything you want help with let me know and I'll try to cover it in a video 😁
What a difference the stays make 😃
Right? So cute!
I have issues with milkmaid sleeves too. I have worked out that if i sew a channel along the top of the sleeve leaving a gap in the middle I can put the elastic in and if it’s bugging me because it’s too big I can knot the elastic in the middle and then sew the gap closed. Works great
Such a great tip, thank you!!!
@@amyofmelbourne you’re so welcome. The knot doesn’t show because of the puffy sleeves.
Great how you solved your problems and made it work for you.
Just a couple of questions/remarks.
I watched Rosery apparel’s video and there wasn’t a tie. She shirred the whole bodice and put elastic in the top of the dress (not a tie) and the sleeves. Also she cut the triangles in both the sleeves and the shirred body to give an adapted armhole which helped the sleeves stay on.
That's actually a more recent video, I'm glad she updated the sleeves to include cut outs, it makes a huge difference!
those pins are very cute.
If you're in Australia they are from the Crafty Squirrel in Ballarat ❤️
Looks great 😊
Thanks for watching!
My main problem with this dress when I made it was the lack of arm holes, which makes the back sag, I found jess dang's shirred dress video which helped me when making dresses like this.
Also when I make dresses like this I make the bodice and skirt different pieces, the bodice being 1.5 x my bust and the skirt being what ever I want. I still mainly use rectangles but they have arm holes.
Thankyou so much for showing us your problems and how you fixed it! I love the stays they really enhance the dress..I love the colour of your linen too. I’m also looking at you old machine in the background I think I have one similar….a hand cranked singer I purchased from a garage sale for $35!
Wow what a bargain!!! I think this cost me about $75. I absolutely love it! Thanks for watching!
What a gorgeous dress !!!🤗🌟💜Way to customize and find lovely solutions! Happy to find your channel 💜🌟
That's so lovely of you to say!!! Thanks for watching ❤️❤️❤️
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Thanks so much for watching! ❤️ I'm glad you noticed the Suomi language details, hopefully I got them all correct 😬😬😬
So wonderful..🙌🙌🙌
Thanks so much!
It looks great with that vest, I love your humour. Really helpful video 😊
Thanks so much for watching! I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for such detail on how this pattern worked and the adjustments that you needed.
I’ve been thinking of making this dress but had stalled on how to avoid the sleeves dropping, I’m broad shouldered, and was considering some back ties. Also my bust size doesn’t “scale up” along with my hips so was worried about having the fabric volume up top.
I'm so glad you found my video helpful! There are a couple of pattern companies with milkmaid style dresses now, petite stitchery has one. That might be a good option to help you out ☺️
I have been trying to figure out how to do the sleeves. Thank you!
No worries!
This is why I only attempt skirts when it comes to DIY no pattern tutorials. 😅 The only fit issue is the bulk of fabric gathering needed for the skirt to fit my huge hips sitting at a significantly smaller waist measurement, very beginner friendly adjustment! 😊
Wow you did great with the dress.Bur my favorite is the black bodice,vest? I want one. Is it a pattern of your own drafting? I love it!
Thank you! It is, currently getting ready for testing so keep an eye out! 😉
@@amyofmelbourneeeeek!!! The vest is SO cute!!
@@Emmajen awe thank you Soo much! 😍😍😍
Thank you so much for making this video!! I have been wanting to make a milkmaid dress like this, and your process has helped me tremendously. :) I am also a tall, big lady, and I will take some of your tips and make some changes of my own. I think I might make the sleeves a ragland style, and do the elastic and drawstrip through the whole neckline, including the tops of the sleeves. Hopefully that works out!! Lol.
I also love how you styled it at the end with the corset top and dark lipstick! Soooo cute. 💜🖤
Quick fyi, I have a new pattern coming out next week that might help 🤫🤫🤫
@amyofmelbourne oooooh :) then I might just hold off making mine for now hehe.
Oh I really love that vest corset piece you added at the end!
If that's something you made, is there a tutorial for it? Thank you for explaining why the sizing up doesn't work by just scaling up the measurements.. It seems obvious now but not something I could get my head around until watching!
Thank you so much! The best isn't available, yet! It will be a pattern to be released in late 2024. I am in need of pattern testers though so you can head to my website and sign up or join my Facebook testers group
I made Rosery Apparel's Pansy dress, in it's largest size for my wife (I think it was a 22, though it might have been a 20?). Overall it worked, but I found that the neckline needed to be lowered for it to work for Samantha. It's neckline is fairly high naturally, but when you bring it up to the plus-size realm, it just doesn't account for chunkier necks, and duck in a bit. Thankfully I only needed to lower it by about 1.5-2cm.
I would love to make more of her patterns, fingers crossed she comes out with an extended size range soon. She has told me that it's in the works so hopefully soon!
Thanks for sharing! I would like to try some of her patterns but it’s hard not seeing what they look like on plus sized bodies. Even though Janelle is lovely, it’s hard for me to take the plunge and purchase a pattern that may not work out for my shape.
@@amyofmelbourne I really hope that when she does, she is able to collaborate with you (or anyone else really) to not just fit-test her plus sizes, but to include plus-sized and disabled models on her website.
@@historical.isolde7918 absolutely, that would be the ideal! I hope that's what all pattern makers are striving for. Actually even more than that I want all pattern makers and clothing makers to consider accessibility as well as representation when creating their garments 🙌
I personally will never sew a “only x amount of rectangles garment” again. The end result will just never be flattering, especially if you’re not super skinny. 🙈 Maybe the Mabel dress by Tilly and the buttons could be an option for you, it has a pretty similar look. You’re stays look gorgeous, they really tie the look together. 😃
Thanks so much for watching! I was thinking of trying to Petite Stitcher co Milkmaid dress, looks really lovely!
I completely agree with your point, though it can be good for new sewers, if it doesn't work on different body types it can end up being discouraging. I really hope that if new sewers see my video it will help them get through their first fitting issues and the discouragement that can come with sewing. There is nothing worse than putting in a huge amount of time, effort and money only to have it not fit!
thank you for your video, but would you consider not playing any background music, just your voice....I find the music distracting. thank you most people don't understand that plus size is not just about adding inches every where....
Thanks so much for watching, and thanks for the feedback. I'll try to get the mix better in the future so it's more subtle and less distracting ☺️
Can you share the pattern or source for the black bodice you are wearing on top? I love it!
Well I would absolutely love to but I haven't released it yet! It should be released really soon, I want to get the grading absolutely perfect, if you sign up for my email list I will be sending out a tester call soon. Thanks for the lovely feedback! ❤️❤️❤️
@@amyofmelbourne Oooo! That's even more intriguing!
💜💜💜💜💜
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I think O would have made shiring up the whole back to get the gaping out
@@hannilaini in the end I remade the dress and shirred the entire back
@@amyofmelbourne I saw some of your more resent videos and found out 🫢
This is what I was afraid of watching her video too, the way the sleeves and neckline would sit on my wide shoulders. Yeah ok.. Tapering them it is then.
@@karebear3152 I'm glad I could help ♥️♥️♥️
ligit question. how do you ware a bra with this? the straps would show.
That is definitely another one of my problems and I am determined to figure it out. The sleeve has to come across the body far enough to cover but still give the nice square neckline.
This video is great and you’re so inspirational but jeez, the music… why??!
All I can say is that I'm weird