The Future of Asia: China's semiconductor ambitions and the new frontier of quantum computing
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- Опубликовано: 25 мар 2024
- CNA is marking its 25th anniversary this month. We take the opportunity to look ahead to the next quarter century in Asia. Today's focus is on tech. Here's a look at China's long-term semiconductor ambitions and the new frontier of quantum computing.
China always want to purchase U$A products.
But no choice now ..need to work very hard to survive , to feed its people.
Need to de-risk.
China has the right to defend itself, to protect its people.
Suggestion: Hold Elections.Let chinese people choose their own leaders. The useless officials there can retire in their Maldives, Vancouver, long island and Manhattan mansion that they buy for cheap from using Squatters. Win win. No sane people want to build systems that monitor people one even for security reason. Much less AI that do precrime(hallucinations due to Bias) or US consumer Consumption data like moonshot AI.
China met the Yanks in the Korean Peninsula and poked a hole in the US military power myth. China and Russia met the Yanks again, indirectly in Viet-Nam.
the Yanks repeated constantly it won't be involved militarily in Ukraine. LOL
Come on, China really doesn’t need American products. Thanks to US sanctions, America is no longer attractive.
Stupid question: *If China lags well behind USA in AI and quantum computing, why is USA so worried about China?* The Americans must believe that the Chinese will never catch up.
It was more cost-effective for China to purchase reliable Western chips, benefiting both sides. China spends more on chip imports than on oil. The US sanctions forced China to develop its domestic supply chain. When self-sufficient, China can provide the world with more affordable chips.
The US and its allies are developing their own supply chain, but it cannot be competitive without access to a large market. The US is sparing no effort in its Tonya Harding competition strategy. The Chinese are very grateful to the US for pushing them towards self-sufficiency. Thanks to the US, China now has its own GPS system and space program. More sanctions, please.
While the G7 accounts for 10% of the world population, it constitutes 60% of the global budget deficit.
China followed the same mentality with its commercial airliner program, they've spent over $100 billion during the last 2 decades to make their own domestic airliner and they've miserably failed, all the investment and IP theft couldn't help them, and they had no choice but to ask the Americans make them one (Comac), and after a decade of collaboration and numerous attempts from China to steal the technologies and IPs from the American and European suppliers, still 70% of the Comac parts come from US and Europe, semiconductor field is far more complicated than making an airliner, China would never reach self-sufficiency and as we go forward the technological gap will be even wider as US and its allies become more protective.
China's GPS system was direct tech transfer from Europe to China, it is well established, Reuters did a great in-depth piece on that, anyone can find and read it.
The whole western world is a large market.
@@JigilJigil where ?
@@JigilJigil Reuters, another BBC (Big Bullsh*t Company)
US: let’s talk about china.
CN: Just keep on doing..
Look at what China is in now. One word: doldrum lmao
All the country that do well in chip manufacturing , has Confucianism culture.
For chip manufacturing, a high level of discipline is the key, and most Americans today don't possess it.
They call it “forced labour"
Taiwanese media reported on August 2 that TSMC claimed the production holdup at its Arizona facility was caused by a shortage of trained American labour and that they had sent staff from Taiwan to assist with the factory's development. Labour union officials in Arizona, on the other hand, criticised TSMC for exploiting this as a justification to bring in "low-wage foreign labour."
@happymelon7129 Except there is this company call Micron USA, STMicroelectronics from France.🤷 and Infineon Technologies AG in Germany.
Do homework leh. Know who originate the latest 3nn chip Finfet. I repeat do homework leh.
TMSC is only having better chip yield while printing the ICs.
@@pehclark7256 You are correct on chip design.
But I am saying "do well in chip manufacturing"
You can see how us road constructors work. 2 guys are doing work, other 8 guys stand and watch. Then they go home after 7 hours 30min, they make one week work last three months, that is why productivity is very low and cost so high.
One common mistakes people made in the comment section is that they think semiconductor are cutting-edge technology and which means 5nm or smaller, but the fact is not all devices we use require chips that are 5nm or smaller. China is currently working toward 5nm chip and already capable of producing semiconductor that are 5nm or greater. No matter how the US attempt to block China's semiconductor ambitions, it will never work. Scientific advancement is not something can be contained, unless you are so advance like 100 to 500 years ahead of China, therefore I don't see the US or the west can succeed in containing China.
12nm chips are already capable. Also the world needs cheap capable chips like what China is producing.
Nowadays, China leads in almost all critical technologies.
The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) is one of the largest think tanks in the world and advises the Australian government and defense organisation. They made a research for many, many years.
They investigated how China is doing in the field of innovation, in the field of critical technologies. And they analyzed the 44 most critical technologies in the world and tried to figure out where China and the US and every country in the world are, number one, number two, number three, number four, number five.
The result they came to was that China in 37 out of 44 areas of critical technologies, is leading in terms of innovation. They Are ahead of the US, ahead of the rest of the world.
They have even established a monopoly on 8 of these technologies. Nowadays, think about electric batteries. And there's many others. While the US is only in 7 areas still in a leading position. The reality is that China is a leader in almost every technology or critical technology in the world.
Absolutely not
America is a cesspool of corruption and will continue to decline into a 3rd world country.
@@kenyup7936absolutely no doubt 😂
Countries that lead the world in 44 critical technology* sectors:
1. China = 37
2. USA = 7
3. UK = 0
4. Germany = 0
5. Japan = 0
*In fields like defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas
Source: Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI)
**India leads the world in the field of cow husbandry, which is neither a technology nor critical
I have to burst your bubble regarding the Australian Strategic Policy Institute report , as the report metric is mostly based on the countires number of published papers and the citations, which is inherently wrong as most of the papers that come out of China has no real value and come from China's scientific paper mill industry, ( nobody reads them as they are considered worthless - check Nature fo China's paper mill industry).
If you want to know exactly where US and China stand when it comes to science and technology, then actually, the lastest DOE report on US competitiveness shows that *China is at least 10-20 years behind US in every scientific and technological field, they are 15 years behind US in Qunatum Computing, (US has 1,121 qbit QC from two different companies with different technologies while China is struggling to develop its own 50-72+ qbit QCs) the only area where China is ahead (5-7 years) is their capability in mass manufacturing of non-advanced products.*
China is actually also very asvanced in Quantum computer
I surfed in internet quantum had more than 100 books.
Chinee are very smart and they will improve
under ccp it is another story.
Yeah. They're smart at stealing info's of original makers/inventors 😂
Yeah right very smart in stealing others IPs and forced ventures lol
Sheep repeating US propaganda. Lie cheat and steal is a Merika invention. 11:10
@@littlesenorita1488thats why western folks has low iq imagine chinese folks can able easily to stealing the infos😂 and thats what stupid western folks😂😂😂
US with support of foreign talents incl Chinese may develop, innovate new tech products but to mass produce them it has to be done in China or East Asia.
Yup no choice asian countries don’t have strong labour unions
A lot of workers are exploited with low wages
But I agree with you , have to make it in asia
complex it may be, but China must adopt self sufficiency for all high end and innovation on all products.
*All the Best to China!! Down with American hegemony!!*
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Taxes have always been a problem in world trade wars, but end users always welcome the presence of cutting edge computing technology from China.
An advanced China is good for Eurasia. It acts as a counteract against western hegemony.
Its a race to the top for Quantum computing and I dont think u want to bet against the Chinese. Look at how the chinese has now dominated the Olympics in number of gold medals from a poor improvish country with hardly any industrialization and technology, now China has overtaken the US over a significant number of technologies.
Look at China's space station, China was denied use of the International Space Station and China build their own and in couple of years the ISS will have to be decommission and than China will be the only country to have a space station in the entire world.
Is that why China still ranked 99th in the world on GDP per capita? And has the world highest debt at 300% of its GDP?
bet against Evergrande, Make money $$$$. But you can hope. I approved.
@@AhmetTekin101- The US has 34Trillion debt go figure and no dont post fake numbers pls u dont even know how rich China is they once hold over a trillion dollars of USD debt but has reduce it to less than 800 million. China has the largest gold reserve in the world. So get your facts straight and stop gas lighting.
Indian😂😂😂😂
@@pehclark7256 You mean like how many people lost money on the Lehman Brothers!
China already made a breakthrough in chip technology. Hisilicon
SG AI push will only leads to more FT taking up AI jobs
Biarkan AS. Merasa bahagia. Dengan pendapat nya. Tiongkok punya ambisi tersendiri
2024, mark the first year of Apple’s decline?
iPhone shipments in China fell 33% year-on-year last month.
iPhone shipments in the Chinese market have declined for the second consecutive month.
Total iPhone shipments in January were approximately 5.5 million units, a decrease of approximately 39% from the same period last year.
I dot now. At last year. For teknologi.. But im happy
semangat bang belajar B.Inggrisnya!
It's not so much about sanctions, it about responsibility of using technology.
lol, I think u are still young and therefore naive. Geo politics are game of the Jungle.
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Someone commented India No.1?
LoL only indians people commenting such outlandish bs!!😂😂
5:50 he talk about Alzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson, ALS,.MS.....
how about the chemicals we used inside our home. Try to learn about Trichloroethylene & Percloroethylene.
Good luck🤣🤣🤣🤣I will pass.
From unfair trade oppressive trade.
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Isn't this what the USA wanted. The US wants China to stop buying US technology. So this is a win for the USA😂.
I know abput quantum computer
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Artificial is Artificial it distined to waste
Used to be called fuzzy logic 20 year ago but then Li feifei plagarized her professor work on neural network to create imagenet. And sell to China which use the tech to make draconian surveillance system that lead up to the lockdown 2020. Trying to impress impressionable people from WEF.(they really don't know anything useful except use money to push stupid agenda). really the mee siam mai hum type of vibe.
NO TO MADE IN CHINA PRODUCTS WORLDWIDE 😢😢😢
Come to my country Mumbai MH 🇮🇳
No, no, no. Keep dreaming.
India is not trustable for any foreign company.
Every foreign company should have India pay at least 500% upfront before starting any project there. India is known as defaulters. They delay projects when it suits them. They even sue you for all their wrongdoings against you.
In yr dreams
Don’t want diarrhea, no thanks
I don't eat curry, no thanks 🙏🏻
So much talk about ccp semiconductor after it has been sanctioned but so far what is its progress?
Get out under the rock and u will find out the truth. Talks will get u nowhere, better yet, stop talking altogether. Shut your pipe!!🙄
cna- chinese national agency
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My be to much product at know
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I think America should maintain total hegemony on all chip production. Its a very highly profitable industry and can make or break any nation that is not attune to Americas interests
The US is simply doing this to keep / protect it's leadership in the chip supply chain.
For the people who aren't part of the west understand better the level of control that the US exacts on us
China can only try to buy used n second hand semi con machinery n equipments. Not the top notch latest equipments , will China has future? Maybe if technology alow down 😂
Western countries can learn from these speeches as we have the OLD DRACONIAN methodology of their way of governing
The US 🇺🇲 has already restricted exporting Quantum computing research and technologies to China.
- China uses them for military modernization and citizen surveillance purposes.
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@@user-tr8bm8ep9n He is just a sour grape Endian
Hi Indian
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As if US also dont use it for military and the surveilance of the entire earth. 😅😊😊
India No.1!
Yes, in cow fertilizer and diarrhea street food 😂😂😂
Engdia # 1 there you go again.