MiSTer FPGA is AWESOME!!! - MiSTer FPGA Retro Console Review

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @gotcubed
    @gotcubed Год назад +21

    Also worth mentioning the quality of the analog output on a mister. Hook it up to a CRT and it looks absolutely beautiful.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      Very true!

    • @ClareHehe
      @ClareHehe Год назад +2

      i am considering doing this with it if i buy it. having so many consoles in one device without the drawbacks of software emulation and i can use a crt? thats amazing. you don't have to make any sacrifices.

  • @mastershakelock
    @mastershakelock Год назад +9

    Always thought it was strange you never did a review on the MiSTer project until now. Legendary retro gaming project.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +6

      Well now the review is here!

    • @x7heDeviLx
      @x7heDeviLx 7 месяцев назад

      Well he had to wait till he got it sent for free. So we could get a non biased review 😉

  • @jocool7370
    @jocool7370 Год назад +9

    The Mister Fpga is a no-complaints system. My daily driver for over a year now. 😎

  • @rager1969
    @rager1969 Год назад +5

    One really nice thing about hardware emulation is that it retains the parallel operations of the hardware rather than handling the emulation in serial fashion via software. This can result in cycle accurate (r close to it) emulation.

    • @DKTronics70
      @DKTronics70 Год назад +4

      None of that matters today, where we have stupidly powerful PCs, with huge core and thread counts, and high clock speeds. This whole, parallel vs serial, is a moot point in 2023, as it no longer matters. Modern emulation is way ahead of anything Mister can ever achieve, such as much higher resolutions, better scaling, modern shader support, widescreen support, texture packs, PS1 z-buffer fixes, multi-player support - especially where none existed - such as the fantastic Jaguar emulator, BigP. Save-states in almost ANY emulator, rather than a few cores, support for ANY controller - not having to rely on SNAC, or Daemon, 4k resolutions - Mister can only do 1920x1200 max, or 1440p with tricks.
      I like the Mister, I have one, but I don't treat it like a religion, as some do.

  • @wizdude
    @wizdude Год назад +21

    I’ve had my MiSTer FPGA for a few years now and it’s hands down the best thing I ever purchased. I also have the mt32pi addon which gives enhanced music for the AO486, X68000 and Atari ST cores for games that support it. I’m also a big N64 fan and I’ve been following the excellent work that Robert has been doing (he is also the person who did the PSX core) on each release and slowly more games are working. It’s a premium option but I absolutely love it and it’s given me so many good vibes and fun times. Thanks for a great video. Cheers 😊

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      The PSX core is fantastic, and the quick work he's making of that in 64 core is nothing short of excellent

  • @rager1969
    @rager1969 Год назад +4

    I'm not "that guy", but with an analog I/O board connected to a CRT, you can eliminate any latency/lag you would get through HDMI, whether on MiSTer, RPi or whatever. Also, USB controllers can have noticeable latency for some, so using SNAC adaptors, you can hookup original controllers.

    • @dinierto
      @dinierto Год назад +1

      I'm also gonna be that guy and say that daemonbyte is arguably better for controllers as you can use OEM console controllers with only 1 ms of lag, and still control the menus and remap buttons

  • @fujitsubo3323
    @fujitsubo3323 Год назад +2

    i love my mister FPGA but have struggled for 2 months now to work out why it will not output to a CRT or VGA monitor... 2 different vga cables later and a replacement analouge board with still no luck. i love this thing to death and will keep on keeping on to get this thing working via component.

  • @christuckwell3185
    @christuckwell3185 Год назад +3

    I'm pleased that you have finally gotten onboard with the MiSTer. It is an amazing project.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      Been using it for a while now, really love the progress 🙂

    • @christuckwell3185
      @christuckwell3185 Год назад

      @@MrMario2011 my path to MiSTer was when I was looking for a Vampire for my Amiga, which led to MiSTer as the Amiga and Atari ST cores was it's foundation (hints in the name :-) ).
      If you have time I definitely recommend checking out the sharp x68000 core for obscure games.

  • @ScandalUK
    @ScandalUK Год назад +11

    Love the video - you covered all the hdmi stuff, but it really shines on CRT - especially when you can output HDMI at the same time!

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +3

      Absolutely, I've heard very good things about it on CRT.

  • @Cookiedon15
    @Cookiedon15 Год назад +10

    I've had mine for a couple of years now. It's awesome!

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      Legendary project!

    • @michaelcloutier2225
      @michaelcloutier2225 Год назад +2

      I did too, but wow look how high the price has gotten. My fully loaded system in a case, RTC, 128RAM, IO board, USB board and even the audio in and it was just under $400.

  • @SScorpio0
    @SScorpio0 Год назад +4

    Your splitter itself might not be the entire HDMI issue. The MiSTer pushes out garbage over HDMI-CEC which can do odd things. It's recommended using a CEC stripper that disconnects the CEC data line which resolves most of the problems.
    As for the price, a DE-10 Nano ($225 direct from Terasic with a few weeks wait), SDRAM add-on ($55-65), and $5 microUSB OTG hub will give you HDMI output and the same level of functionality as that whole system you have. The case, IO board, integrated USB hub are nice to haves, but aren't needed when you start.
    Finally, yes RUclips compression messes with it, but you didn't really cover the video filters. With a core loaded press right and select video processing. Select one of the presets and it will no longer look like a software emulator, but how you remember the games looking on a CRT, but displayed on your fancy flat screen.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      Interesting, much appreciated with sharing this!

  • @soullos555
    @soullos555 Год назад +4

    I love the MiSTer, had one for years and bought another prebuilt one from Mister Addons with the aluminum case. The minimal UI is nice because it's not flashy but piratical. Easy to get in and just play and the games just play right, it feels exactly as I rememered growing up. Just to note, you can do save states in NES, GB (GBC), PS1 and I think Jaguar as well, or was it Lynx? Other cores can add support, but requires it to be implemented. NES didn't have save states initially but Robert Peip (the wizard who is currently developing the N64 and did the amazing GBA, GB and PS1 cores) implemented it a few years ago for the NES. Hopefully more cores can get them as well in the future. :)

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      Good looking out! More save state support is always appreciated.

  • @AvalancheReviews
    @AvalancheReviews Год назад

    Love my Mister. At first, I got it just to play around with, but it eventually replaced all my 16bit consoles for capture.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      I've seen that comment several times! Many creators out there have switched over to exclusively capturing content from the MiSTer due to how convenient and accurate it is.

  • @angrydove4067
    @angrydove4067 Месяц назад

    Great video as I await my MiSTer Pi on backorder. Nice woof!

  • @ZimLuvGigan
    @ZimLuvGigan Год назад +3

    It actually looks better than my hdmi modded ps1 since you can turn dithering off and some games support 16x9

  • @tokenz2011
    @tokenz2011 Год назад +2

    You can even use the original controllers of the core your playing through the snac protocol

  • @dataterminal
    @dataterminal 3 месяца назад

    Just a heads up, a year on and the DE10 is no longer the only option. The QMTECH CycloneV work with the mister firmware as well, about 1/3 of the price but you will need a different IO board (if you're using one), and a different case. Compromise, yes, but GMTECH IO board and case are also out there.

  • @MegaRocket99
    @MegaRocket99 Год назад +3

    Note that if you want to get started with a MiSTer, you can just buy the Terasic DE10-Nano board for $250 (comes with a power adapter) and that can already run a bunch of cores nes, snes, genesis, megadrive. At some point you will probably want a $60 128MB SD RAM for the CD based systems, and a $10 otg usb hub.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      Definitely true, you can get by on the bare hardware, but you'll really want more.

  • @ninetendopesaitama2107
    @ninetendopesaitama2107 Год назад

    Have one since 2019. This device keeps on giving and sets new standards for retro gaming imo. MiSTer is BeSTer. ☮️

  • @dinierto
    @dinierto Год назад +1

    Great video! Save states are available on other cores, like Gameboy, NES, PS1, N64, and I believe Wonderswan, maybe others (Lynx?). They're possible on FPGA but the core has to be designed with them in mind from the beginning, and cores like SNES weren't. Also you have to have space left on the FPGA to add the code.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      Totally makes sense, appreciate the clarification!

    • @dinierto
      @dinierto Год назад

      @@MrMario2011 awesome work I've already sent your video over to some friends 😊

  • @messiahmozgus
    @messiahmozgus Год назад

    I've never seen these complete builds with case in stock. Whenever I check they say sold out. I've checked like a dozen times the past two years. Do they actually sell these things or not? No queue lines? That would at least make sense to wait in line

    • @miltonbates6425
      @miltonbates6425 9 месяцев назад

      It depends entirely on the availability on the DE-10 Nano board.

  • @Mitjitsu
    @Mitjitsu Год назад +1

    I do want to get something like this eventually, but it would need to have Dreamcast and Gamecube consoles included for it to be worth my while.

    • @allisterfiend_2112
      @allisterfiend_2112 Год назад

      Look into the M.A.R.S fpga system that is being teased right now, it is supposed to have the dreamcast core when released. MARS is supposed to be a successor to mister as it will have beefier fpga hardware.

  • @electronash
    @electronash Год назад

    23:30 - Just a quick heads-up, but the old-skool "static" effect on MiSTer really gives the RUclips compression a hard time, and makes the OSD menu look grainy.
    If you hit F1 while the main power-up menu "core" is running, it will cycle through a few other backgrounds.
    That only works for the HDMI output though, IIRC. It should save that setting for the next boot.
    Or, you can install something like the RetroDriven Wallpaper script, for some nicer backgrounds.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      Absolutely, it definitely killed the visuals for a bit there, although thankfully it recovered. On my own setup I have a few static wallpaper images I cycle through. Anything from retro gaming nostalgia to Stupid Fox to nothing,nowhere.

    • @electronash
      @electronash Год назад

      @@MrMario2011 Don't worry, it didn't look even half as bad as it does on most live streams. lol
      It held up quite well in your vid, so I imagine you're using quite a high bitrate.
      (I was stunned years ago when I first tried to upload some Dreamcast footage upscaled to 1080p, and needed to encode H.264 at 60 Mbits to get decent quality. :o )

  • @DeanMcFarland
    @DeanMcFarland Год назад

    He really hooked you up with the regular active cooling case with dual barrel DC port slots. His site doesn’t have it posted making the $100 (shipped) passive cooling one the only other option there. Only other sub-$100 option for dual barrel dc setups are clear acrylic cases from the UK/etsy/ebay.
    A case is important for the mister with hub as it prevents play on the usb ports breaking their solder joints.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      This is an older build, I got it before that awesome aluminum case was made!

    • @DeanMcFarland
      @DeanMcFarland Год назад

      It is awesome for sure. The Apple of Mister cases basically. @@MrMario2011

  • @retror.d.1630
    @retror.d.1630 7 месяцев назад +1

    I own a Mistercade that allows me to play old school counsel games and arcade games in my CRT arcade or CRT tv like it’s meant to be played, not on a terrible LCD! I can tell you did not grow up in the arcade era. That’s crazy that you are not into arcade as well! Neo Geo is arcade. Most of those games have aged well because of how cool the graphics look till this day. While PS2 games and some counsel games aged like milk.

    • @XPimKossibleX
      @XPimKossibleX 13 дней назад

      PS2 games age like milk but they age into a fine cheese

  • @TheShoe1990
    @TheShoe1990 5 месяцев назад

    I have all of my ROMs on a 5TB external drive with USB 3.0. Could I play all of my PSX and down games on the Mister directly off the drive?

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  5 месяцев назад +1

      You'd have to look up how to set up an external drive.

    • @TheShoe1990
      @TheShoe1990 5 месяцев назад

      @@MrMario2011 I see. Does it take micro SD or regular SD? I might get a 1TB SD & move everything to that

  • @MetalurgiaMéxico
    @MetalurgiaMéxico Год назад

    Hola, I could buy a DE-10 Nano and other two boards:
    MiSTer Analog IO Board v6.1
    y USB Hub v2.1 For MiSTer.
    However, I noticed there is another board:
    Mini-ITX Ironclad Plus
    ¿What is the difference between the two set-ups?
    Thanks

  • @AZBCDE
    @AZBCDE Год назад

    Awesome video, been looking into getting the Mister

  • @neotherebeltn
    @neotherebeltn Год назад

    What's the game on the background ? Quake2 maybe ?

  • @Slot1Gamer
    @Slot1Gamer Год назад

    all it needs now is a slick UI and it'll be perfect!

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      I don't know, man, I personally love it 😛

    • @Slot1Gamer
      @Slot1Gamer Год назад

      @@MrMario2011 I love the static screen look haha

  • @Aeduo
    @Aeduo Год назад

    Hovering on the snow background made this video buffer _really_ bad.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      No buffering, but it did annihilate the video quality for a minute 🤣

  • @BrianKapellusch
    @BrianKapellusch Год назад

    I love my MiSTer and if anyone is asking themselves "should I buy a MiSTer", the answer is probably yes. You can just feel the difference that and software emulation when you play.
    With that said, I don't love the interface at all. I'm tech savvy and it doesn't bother me personally, but it's impossible to have my young kids sit down and pick a game like they can on my BigBox arcade machine. I'm sure with some programming, I can probably find a way to have another device serve as a front end to pick a game, but it would be nice if someone else would do that work for me :)

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      Despite my love for the MiSTer, I'd respectfully disagree. Software emulation will be fine for many folks out there, and I personally love the interface. You do bring up a good point about young kids using it, so there certainly is some level of reading comprehension required to be able to navigate the menus.

  • @gr8t1bobo
    @gr8t1bobo Год назад +3

    Great video as usual and looks like a great product. I'm looking for options to play gba, gb, gbc, games on CRT but this might be a little expensive for me, I will probably go the modded GameCube route.

  • @j.walker6845
    @j.walker6845 Год назад

    Everything looks amazing, and it's a little nit-picky, but my question is what about Jaguar?

    • @dinierto
      @dinierto Год назад

      Currently there's a beta Jaguar core but it hasn't seen a lot of development. There's a dev that has it on his roadmap but we don't know when. Honestly the rate of development for MiSTer has been staggering, and I would guarantee that Jaguar will eventually be knocked out- it's only a matter of when.

  • @retroforce6919
    @retroforce6919 Год назад

    Cool MiSTer review 👍

  • @AdrianLabs
    @AdrianLabs Год назад

    I love this project, have 2 MisTers, one hooked to an HP SVGA monitor with 2 memory modules for the upcoming cores like MK, also use it for 486 PC gaming, the other MisTer has the analog board and is connected to a Sony 19” MD PVM through RGB for console and arcade gaming , I think I play with these more than with my RTX 4090 + i9 13900k PC or my PS5 and Xbox series X 😂 80s kid through and through tho

  • @Philip.J.Fry0
    @Philip.J.Fry0 Год назад

    Is it possible to save anywhere in the game?

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      Only the cores with save states

  • @friedzombie4
    @friedzombie4 Год назад

    Very nice, that's the same exact build i have sitting under my TV for a few years. I downsized my physical setup quite a bit after this lil guy dropped

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      It truly is amazing how much punch this little box packs.

  • @richarddukard8989
    @richarddukard8989 Год назад

    Can you play from m.2 ssd?

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      Maybe if you have enough creativity and get one adapted to the microSD card slot? I've not heard of it, but I'm not against it!

  • @brettus9115
    @brettus9115 Год назад

    I haven't played Thrill Kill since 2000 and honestly haven't heard anyone speak that name (at least here in Australia) since then lol. I used to love saying "bring out the gimp" (midget on stilts, fmd hilarious) when brawling with my wife, brother and his mates on the Sony (disc swapping hack back then I think) while we were all drunk on weekends... Great times!

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      Truly love it, a legendary game.

  • @snintendog
    @snintendog Год назад

    I was a major Original Board guy myself Emulation was nice but it just wasnt good enough most of the time. The Mister sounded too good to be true for me so i let it cook and once i heard Saturn was on its way i dove for it...I pretty much have abandoned my old consoles for it now, The OSSC and Framemiester just seem like wastes of money to me now.
    As it is i went with the BOX shape mister with the three boards stack. But i am wanting the Multisystem now... The Fact that N64 is coming to the console now is insane. And with MArs being teased as a possible successor with DC probable on it. FPGA is the new Retro.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      FPGA is the past, present, and future 🔥

  • @WhatAboutZoidberg
    @WhatAboutZoidberg Год назад +3

    in 2020 I also noticed how many systems I wanted to mod and get an Everdrive for, was going to be very expensive. The MiSTer is just a single box, that does all those things and with a single power and video cable. I love to mod systems but the MiSTer was a no brainer. Got PS1 and a few arcade cores since I bought it and Saturn and N64 are looking great. Cannot recommend it more. I can output RGB Scart to a CRT or high quality HDMI with a million filters and shaders to play with.
    Also X68000 core in the works. That system alone is 3x the MiSTers price, mu h less any games for it. That and a Mt-32 pi.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад +1

      Absolutely worth it on that front! I've been loving the PS1 core personally.

  • @RainerK.
    @RainerK. Год назад

    Biggest difference between Analogue recreations and the MiSTer is that the Analogue stuff works with the original cartridges whereas the MiSTer uses rom files.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      Definitely true, and it is quite nice being able to physically use your collection on one.

    • @snintendog
      @snintendog Год назад +1

      @@MrMario2011I have to wonder could there be Cart Readers made for the SNAC input?

    • @dinierto
      @dinierto Год назад

      @@snintendog unfortunately not as there aren't enough IO pins. You can use some USB cart readers in a limited capacity, but they just dump the cart to a ROM file

  • @easyerthanyouthink
    @easyerthanyouthink 10 месяцев назад

    Love all your videos and channel.
    You make thinks clear and cover all that needs covering. And yes Im tripped 😂 its not hardware emulation. It hardware replication legit. Reason is in many old computers you have gal and pal.and cpld chips. This is real logic just not factory etched. Fpga is basicly the same thing but bigger and better. Its hardware and its real, it just total reconfigurable.

  • @cesaru3619
    @cesaru3619 Год назад +2

    FPGA, I will try it in 3 years, hopefully then is cheap, bug free and have more performance. Until then, SOFTWARE EMULATION MASTER RACE!

  • @jackmyowl
    @jackmyowl Год назад

    4:10
    "He said the thing... now we must PICO it"
    ~ Me (A Raspberry Pi PICO Zealot)

  • @thetoythief8940
    @thetoythief8940 Год назад

    From my experience the switch pro controller isn't that great 😂 the dpad can't figure out what way it wants to go for example mine pushing left will more then likely push down pushing right will push up so it's very inaccurate

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      That's unfortunate, they've all worked great for my setup

    • @thetoythief8940
      @thetoythief8940 Год назад

      @@MrMario2011 weird how I've bought several versions yet there all like that

  • @adventuretaco7140
    @adventuretaco7140 Год назад

    MISTer is the past present and future !

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      Truly the best wrapped into one box!

  • @Joe3D
    @Joe3D Год назад +3

    Old consoles are for CRT.

  • @jamiemaloney1552
    @jamiemaloney1552 Год назад

    This is super cool but I would want it to play PS2, OG Xbox and newer.

    • @dinierto
      @dinierto Год назад +1

      for those systems, not only would they not fit on the FPGA sadly, but they'd take years of development and a full team of developers to engineer. After it's all said and done those generation of systems are better off on PC anyway as they rely less on precise timing and more on APIs that can be translated

  • @rooskiwolf1653
    @rooskiwolf1653 10 месяцев назад

    Turned off the moment he said he prefers a Bluetooth controller over a wired or 2.4 GHz controller.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  10 месяцев назад

      Having choices is a bad thing, huh? 😂

  • @DestinyFomo
    @DestinyFomo Год назад

    You opened with a dad joke hahahaha

  • @Claasic
    @Claasic Год назад

    That’s so dope

  • @michaels9917
    @michaels9917 Год назад

    I interestingly enough purchased a MISTer, mega sg, super nt, and retrousb AVS. I tend to use the individual consoles more just because I don't need to navigate menus and or use a keyboard.

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      It's nice to have options! 🙂

    • @Gryzor88
      @Gryzor88 Год назад

      You could get an NFC reader for the MiSTer and stick RFID tags on your original games. Simply start the games by scanning your original cartridges.

  • @Nobe_Oddy
    @Nobe_Oddy Год назад

    MrMario's MiSTerMareview 🤪

  • @SageNevaRan
    @SageNevaRan Год назад

    Mr Mario salute 🫡⚡⚡⚡⚡

  • @ThetaxDeltax
    @ThetaxDeltax 5 месяцев назад

    if emulation is what you after then get this. or emulate on the pc.
    Hacking a console is a big pain.

  • @renejosu
    @renejosu 5 месяцев назад

    Still think it's toooo expensive

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  5 месяцев назад +1

      That's fine, retro gaming can be as cheap or as expensive as you want it to be! Thankfully this will all be coming down in price soon with some super affordable options coming to the market, so you won't have to pay PS6 prices for a MiSTer build.

    • @renejosu
      @renejosu 5 месяцев назад

      @@MrMario2011 True, i'm waiting for a cheaper alternative, i saw one from QMTech but, still gonna wait a little longer for reviews to come.

  • @silenthill4
    @silenthill4 Год назад

    MARS > MiSTer

  • @derekv6479
    @derekv6479 Год назад +1

    Not seeing the benefits over costs from just emulating. Especially considering it can only go up to N64 and then barely that. Huge meh. Maybe in time. Hit me up when this thing rips up everything from the 2600 to PS3

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      It isn't for everyone, and that's fine!

    • @derekv6479
      @derekv6479 Год назад +1

      @@MrMario2011 I think the main downer about this is that all the systems it currently runs perfectly, emulation rips through also. The differences are near indiscernible. It's only when you get into systems at Saturn and higher that you start to see issues with emulation and certain games, buuuuuut this thing doesn't even run them at all. I dunno. Kinda kills it luster afaic.

    • @chronology556
      @chronology556 Год назад +1

      @@derekv6479 The cost is the problem and the setup is just like on PC. You have to set it up and figure it out. It's not plug and play, so hardly a console. I have a powerful PC and I'm so lazy to set up emulators still, they have to compete with my Steam library, now. Before I was a broke boy, but I am still kind of broke, but at least I have a powerful PC and a Steam library, as opposed to some shitty run of the mill Windows Vista or Windows 7 laptop or Core 2 Duo Windows 7 or A10 series AMD PC, or some garbage PC anymore. I don't have to play old ass games, anymore....

    • @ricecake4588
      @ricecake4588 Год назад +1

      @@derekv6479 You say the Mister doesn't even run the Saturn or higher at all even though cores for the Saturn and N64 are being worked on at this very moment. Also, the main appeal of the Mister is the minimization of input lag. If you play on a CRT, the games feel the same as they did back in the day. The Mister is mainly for hardcore retro games who want the most accurate experience. If you're a casual, then software emulation is perfectly fine.

  • @deegeegeeretrogaming6684
    @deegeegeeretrogaming6684 Год назад

    MiSTer FPGA is the best Form of Emulation atm.

  • @karlhanso
    @karlhanso Год назад

    its only matter of time if marfpga thrives because it surparses mister in terms of hardware

    • @MrMario2011
      @MrMario2011  Год назад

      I'm all for it!

    • @dinierto
      @dinierto Год назад

      a lot of us are intrigued by MARS but so far they've been oddly hushed about the project and the videos they've shown have been misleading. Time will tell