Z-RAM • For the HDR 50 & HDR 68
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Today we finally test the world famous ZRAM metal pointy slugs , both in 50 and 68 caliber, on a whole variety of targets. A deep and complete look into these powerful sharp projectiles, Made in Germany.
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For now, THANK YOU Step!
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I hope my Patrion subscription will be an example for other spectators of the channel ) Glad to be in touch with you and Miami!
@@stepche2990 on the upside of thiswar.. Lots of illegal guns showing up in russia for collecting...
Hi Step, sorry I missed your response. And thank you again so much! Donating to my channel, despite the difficult conditions you live in is truly an amazing gesture! I really can’t thank you enough and yes, hopefully others will also be inspired :)
Hey man, where did you get the hdr at Serbia? From the man-trader on the kupiprodajem?
Cool idea👍 But $45 for only 6 of these rounds is OUTRAGEOUS!😱 these are easily made on a lathe, I've been making my own for year's😂👍
You have the expertice and know- how in D.I.Y pellet making... Just get a sample of your preferred pellet- for your sample pattern/ project pattern mold- and the rest will be production history...
Pls PM me in my FB site, few inquiry about pellet production.. Is that by mold, lathe, etc?...
Where do we get lathe
@@fierrolisto3281 little machine shop.
At that price point I could just shoot black powder.
I really enjoy the way the video was edited and put together very informative and entertaining to watch, very glad I found this channel recently
Thank you so much!! I truly appreciate your words and I’m also very glad you find my channel :) Happy New Year!!
i love the show at the beginning it gives the channel the right flavor. 👍👍
Niiice! Thanks so much for the feedback! Makes all the efforts very worth it! Thank you! And happy New Year!!
Information on the water jugs is a production keeper 👍
Thanks for that Gary! Those have been among the first constant target I’ve used since day one, so I appreciate your input very much!
Those things are awesome, especially the 68 versions. The projectiles will definitely stay/stick with any perp who enters my home. When he leaves, I will have to ask him if he wouldn't mind mailing them back to me. I mean, after all, he did cause me an expense 😜. As usual, two cans of Spaghetti-Os not going into the stomachs of uneducated victims . . . I mean, customers. Nice one, buddy!!
Hahahahahaha! You always crack me up! Indeed make sure the perp mails them back to you, coz they ain’t cheap!! Happy New Year my friend and thanks as always!!
@@AirgunAlley moocho grassy-ass, my friend. 😁
Great video and test as always brother.
Ridding the world of spagettios is noble work too
Hahahaha! Thank you as always Scott!! Wishing you a wonderful New Year!
Happy New Year!
I cannot wait for ballistic torso :-D I have watched a lot of your videos and when I compare this to older ones you have its really nice to see how you improve it, I am interested in HDR so your informations are quite helpful
That’s great and thank you so much!! Torso is on the way 😁 the video should be out the weekend after this one 🤞🏽🤞🏽
Thank you so much my friend!
Hola mi Amigo. I got the Z Rams for my unrestricted .68 HDR and there great. I also got the new metal magazine for the HDR but I was very disappointed that my .68 cal Z rams didn't fit. I'm shooting my Z rams with 1100 psi with a pcp ninja air bottle. There very destructive. Amigo muchísimas gracias por tus videos. Soy tu Fan. Saludos y bendiciones desde la tierra del Mayab, Mérida, Yucatán, México.
Hermano! Muchisima gracias a ti por este mensaje mui amable!! Wow tienes un canon!! I love your set up, veeeeery effective indeed!! Mui bien 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Y gracias again.
Nos vemos en Mérida un dia!
- it's like a Christmas gift when Your new video pop up ;)
Awww man! That’s sooo nice!! THANK YOU 🙏🏽🙏🏽 and Merry Christmas!! 🎅🏼
I was kicking myself for a while for not getting the HDR 50 and getting the HDR 68 instead. I just assumed a smaller projectile at a similar speed would have greater penetrating potential. But the difference in kinetic energy makes the HDR 68 the real winner.
I’m with you 100%! I’ve been suggesting the 68 over the 50 ever since I first laid my hands on it. I’m happy you’ve come to that conclusion my friend!
Would you guys say the 68 is best for home defence, I live in a rough area in the uk
@@Beggars-Belief after the removal of the restrictor you’ll get about 5 or 6 solid shots out of the HDR 68 that I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of. I live in the US and own many firearms but the HDR 68 is the only gun at night time that sits next to the bed. I do trust it. My use of it was to provide enough time to unlock the gun cabinet and load up an AR or a shotgun. After practicing with it I have decided the next step in my plan might not be necessary. That’s only with the removal of the restrictor however. The gun will come from the factory more geared towards paintball or pepper ball use. I’m not a fan of the use of pepper balls in my home. So pull that restrictor and use heavy kinetic balls. Such as rubber steel or even nylon. The effects of the pepper balls do take a minute and by the time they do the attacker might close the gap and even expose you to the pepper. IMO
i like leaving the tiny hole co2 restrictor in because it gives almost half more consistent shots , more regulated !!!you might loose maybe 20 FPS one the first and maybe 2nd shot , but your rest 6 or 8 shots will be so much more than the one that doesnt have it ! . i really recommend you leave co2 restrictor in hdr.50 and please remove the valve block ,you will go to 18 to 20 joules easy ,and if you put a 2 piece tuning barrel you will goto 25j plus !!! it all boils down to this ,do you want 6 powerful shots for personal defense or do you want double or close to triple the shots per co2 fill that still have twice to three times the stock power but more shots for target shooting and practice ? there are so many things you can do besides worrying about the restrictor to custom design your marker for your exact purpose intended !!!!
Hey RG! But what about expanding the hole in the restrictor?.. Ive heard good things...
@@airgunballistics1779 i have millions of people waiting for me to get trapped on this question , lol , is this a trick question my friend ? to be honest , i do have a few with different sized holes lol , i have 100's of pages filled with very informative and important data on all my exhaustive testings i have done with these umarex markers . now to one airgun tech to another ,
to drill a slightly bigger hole in a restrictor you are in reality making it less restrictive !!!
so tell me a great answer right ??? LOL
Right projectile in the right marker and they can really perform. Put them in a mag-fed launcher and they require TLC to keep from jamming badly. I would definitely trust those in the Umarex system though!
For mag fed, Z-Ram sells a 'MagMode' for the T8, T9 and FSC mags to prevent jams. I've have them in mine and they work great with zram slugs! 👍
No jams at all, or just a reduction in the frequency of jams? I know that reversing the follower and lubing helps too but they aren’t completely eliminated.
@@ScaredyCatTactical Yeah, no jams at all in my T8.1. I also add a bit of silicone grease. So far they've been great
Very interesting guys! Thank you for your expert inputs on this! 🙏🏽 and Happy New Year!!
Very cool video as always. The Z-ram slugs hit hard. You should also try the extention valve chamber they sell at Z-ram. Take care my friend and happy shooting. Cheers from Norway 😃👍
Hej Rune. I hope you're well. Yes I agree. The Z-Extension in a great addition to the HDR's! 👍
Thank you Maestro! You’re right and I already knew it as I has watched all your videos a few months ago. I see you’re having fun with the HDB, very cool shotgun!
@@The_Viking_Highlander Thank you my friend. Hope all is well with you also 😃
@@AirgunAlley Thanks my friend. Yes the HDB is a very cool marker. I think it will be my new favorite 😃👍
It's good for a toy I guess. Please do not use these for self defense; you're going to piss off the wrong person.
Thanks for yet another great test review looking forward to seeing that PCP in action wishing you all the best for 2023 from Less Lethal SA 🇿🇦
Thank you so much my SA friend! Wishing all the same to you for a wonderful 2023!!
1.2K views 112 likes with me .bud WHATTTTT ! AWESOME RIFLE THERE , YOU WILL LOVE SHOOTING THE ARROWS IN IT ALSO !!! AWESOME VIDEO AS ALWAYS MY BROTHER !!!
Another winner. Ordering 2 bags soon. Thx again.
THX ! Discount: 10ZRAM 😉
You will not be disappointed!! 😎 Happy New Year!!
@@AirgunAlley HNY and looking fwd to many more vids in 2023. Cheers.
Your SEO's are on point, excellent growth rate on this channel...... thumbs up
Hey man, thanks a lot! I try to keep my head low and work hard! Like you I got a lot of people accusing me of ruining the sport for everyone - but I realize these are mostly angry, unhappy people that live to complain and through 💩 on hard working creators. (I actually meant to comment all this on one of your most recent videos, but never got around to.)
Keep up the great work my man I love your channel!
This is a pretty good option for someone who can't own a real gun. This thing looks like it does some damage in a self defense situation.
Well said, and I’ll add that these are great self defense tools in countries like Europe where the chances of being confronted by someone with a real firearm are minimal.
get some lead from airgun ammunition, get a round mold that fits the caliber you want, and then hammer the airgun ammunition in it till you get the size you desire
Excellent Video as always, always wondered how the Z Rams performed, now i know
Thanks,
John.
Thank you Johan, glad I could help and as always I much appreciate your input… Happy New Year my friend!!
Going to be trying some of these crazy .50 cal bullets in the Dragon Claw, huh? Been thinking of trying some of them in my Wing Shot II.
Hehe how did you know that’s the plan?? Let’s see how it goes and let’s pray that it won’t jam anything. Shall keep you posted my friend!
Didnt do as well as i thought but damn that hdr50 in the fps test was unbelievably consistent.
I miss the stop motion magazine/drum loading you did in your earlier videos.
Oh man! You really want me to work hard don’t ya! You’re right tho, it’s been a while since I’ve done one of those stop motion loading segments… will do! I also need to come see what you’ve been up to with your videos. I’m sure you’ve been doing great work as always ok your channel… Happy New Year my friend!!
@@AirgunAlley Happy New Year to you too.
Encore une bonne vidéo vous êtes sur tout les créneaux mon ami
Wow, merci tres beaucoup mon ami!! Un super Happy New Year!!
@@AirgunAlley de rien mon ami happy new year également
Now i want to buy an .68 Airsoft. Excellent video.
Hahaha sorry!!! But you won’t be disappointed… thanks a lot Alex!
Encore une fois bravo pour la vidéo👍😊
Very good 😎
Merci tres beaucoup mon ami Daniel!! Happy New Year!!
@@AirgunAlley bonne année aussi
Feliz ano novo. 👍😉
Sharp shootin partna
Thank you my man!! 🙌🏼
Great video! I am so happy that your new "Alley" is more open and airy. ( I do miss the air conditioner though) Your new diggs will help you expand AAM!
Oh Jerry, thank you so much as always!! Hahahaha I absolutely DO NOT miss that air conditioner and I can’t be happier with my new environment. Thank you again my friend! Happy New Year!!
@@AirgunAlley YES! HAPPY NEW YEAR! I look forward to watching another year full of CO2 power!
absolutely impressing!
in Germany those weapons are reduced to 7J, but I don't even want a potentially deadly weapon...
🙌🏼 bless you my friend! And thank you so much for watching!
Happy new year.
Difficult to write comments, censorship is fierce. On some topics I'm a bad boy with propaganda. Excellent video. The accompanying music is very well chosen. Slugs are very effective. 👍
Merci beaucoup monsieur Gaston and happy New Year to you too! So far it seems that your comments all came through, hope non of them got censored.
Anyway, thank you as always! I’m glad you like the music. I made a small investment in the soundtracks to make my videos a little better.
Merci :)
Can you do a video on on your personal opinion of the best projectiles as far as stability in the air and damage And the most reliable for self-defense?
Great question my friend! Even better, in two weeks (if all goes well) I’ll be coming out with a “HDR 50 vs real ballistic dummy” (with bones and everything) and I’ll be testing a whole variety of slugs against it.
That will tell us a lot :)
Happy birthday Gian ! 😊🎂
Merci monsieur Dhani! 😎
Love to.see you shoot some ballistic gel with those. Thank you.
Done :) ruclips.net/video/a-xFUPEKuxY/видео.html and the 68 cal version will be out this Saturday…
I enjoy your video again my friend.
Very useful video to understand clearly Z-Ram projectiles per caliber and weight👍🏻🧟🧟♂️🧟♀️
Thank you so much my friend!! I truly appreciate it! Happy New Year!!
@@AirgunAlley Happy New year 💐🎊
Thanks for the awesome video. For home defense which would recommend the ZRam, Devestators, or the Cordodo 9mm?
Thank YOU my friend! I always recommend to use a mix of ammo in a magazine. Alternate them. But between the ones you mentioned I think the Devastator and Cododo are equal (go with the easier or cheaper to find) and I would get the Zrams to complement them.
That way you have a powerful ball (or bullet) bearing slugs and more penetrating pointy ones…. Hope this helps
Grimburg Gavel, try this one. 39 Joules, extremely powerful
Yess! I hope to try that soon
Thanks! My brother 🤌🏼
Duuuude!! Thanks man!! Payback for all them beers we bought each other back in the day?? 😂 Love you man
@@AirgunAlley More like, I’m sorry I cracked ribs brother. Lol.
@KJK_ATX hahahahahahaha!! You’ll have to add a few zeros for that one!!! 😎
@@AirgunAlley let’s just say it’s a start. Seriously my man, I really really enjoy your videos! I’m surprised you didn’t play your wife’s part as well. Ha, ha, ha ha ha. I wouldn’t put it past you. Fun to watch and educational.
I've been waiting on my zram for over a month. 1st batch got lost in the mail. 2nd batch I believe is lost...this is sad for me. Great video dude
hello, very sorry to hear that. did you write to our support with the order number?
Hey my friend! Really sorry to hear. Also in my case it took a while as the first batch was blocked at the NY customs for a few weeks. The second batch came in super fast.
Another time (with a different brand) the slugs were stuck at the German customs for over one month. But I’m glad Z-Ram responded to you. Hope all issues will be solved now :)
Happy New Year!!
@z-ram hey guys yea they actually showed up the next day! Very pleased with these things.
Z-RAMS ROCK
Not the cantaloupe,I love ambrosia canelopes. I use to grow them at the ranch in Winter Haven.
I still prefer round balls for the HDRs. When fired from a smoothbore gun, the bullets tend to tumble in the air, which means they don't hit straight. With round bullets it doesn't matter, but with pointy ones it means that they often hit the target with their side or even back, negating all pointy tip advantage. They look cool, but they are terrible in practice.
I disagree. In my experience, and as shown in this video, the Z-Ram slugs do indeed have a stable trajectory and pentrate an object pointed end first in most cases
I think getting hit from the side with a z projectile is still harder than a round bullet. the sides also have smaller impact areas than round balls
Thanks for your input. I’m not too sure that these tumbled so much in flight. Of course I believe these launchers are very much made for short distance shooting. If your target is far away, I’m sure the chances of it getting hit by the point are reduced. But from 20/30ft - you’ll most likely get hit from the front of the slug…
Ashtrays just like 72 caliber. Love the Dragon Claw, especially with the arrows. Had been looking for a review of the 40 joule HDX 68CAL. Very impressive coconut water for 68cal CO2 pistol
Slugs in a paintball rubber ball gun. Interesting
It seems like with a flat face or or even domed it would have more of a concussive impact
I would like to get some of them. It seems they are reusable as long as you don't shot anything really hard. Thanks for the review
Absolutely and even if you hit something really hard - I would still bet on their reusability. They really feel extremely solid…
My complete pleasure and thank YOU for the comment
Woah, ricochets are looking so dangerous!
That’s why wearing protection is a must :)
Très bonne vidéo très intéressante les slugs sont magnifiques !👌
Merci tres beaucoup! 🙏🏽🙌🏼
Nice tests, very well done !!
Unfortunately the rubber mask is too flexible and I suppose the results are not realistic. Anyway, very interesting !!
Go ahead
Grazie Giampiero! And you’re very right! Soon I’ll be getting a real ballistic dummy, that will finally give us realistic results! I look forward to that, and thanks again!
It makes big entry holes but that's about it, I assume it's because it's only 12g co2 powered. I'm sure the PCP rifle will definitely penetrate much deeper and most likely go through all the test. I know a simple .177 break barrel pellet rifle would enter and exit all test. Another channel filled a coconut with ballistics gel and had no issue entering on first hit and even exiting the other side. My .177 break barrel shooting lead at 1000fps or alloy at 1200fps has been able to punch through 5/8" plywood at fairly good distance.
Hi Matthew, you make good points - but we need to separate the apples from the oranges.
The whole point of these weapons and ammo are to be less-lethal, as that’s the category they fall under.
So you want them to really hurt, to deter and perhaps to knock out someone, without killing them. And remember 50 cal is a huge caliber compared to the .177 which is like a needle in comparison. PCP is designed for hunting, so we would absolutely expect full penetration.
I know, there’s a lack of visual satisfaction (for that I’d suggest some of my pcp videos), but these Zrams are doing their job well.
Thanks again!
@@AirgunAlley ya nothing against the ammo, although they do look deadly, I've seen several of your videos just not the pcp ones. While back the darts lol definitely wouldn't feel good and would be boarderline lethal. If the objective is a good non lethal round perhaps rate on accuracy vs penetration since any thing coming out those will hurt for damn sure. Want to say you tested a dense rubber slug , if non lethal is the point those were best ones I've seen you shoot, accurate and prolly just as if not more painful then beanbags similar to rubber bullets fired out of a 12gauge . I'd have to go back and check which they were. Didn't know that was point of the test so wasn't knocking anything.
wow!.
If you could throw one of these bullets with your rifle, you could stop a big ox, my friend..
Hahaha yesss absolutely! I will soon be testing various 50cals with my new rifle! 😳
Happy New Year!!
Great video as always. Although I did feel a little uncomfortable about the waste of food. Not sure if I missed it, but are your HDR's standard or do they have the valve block and restrictor removed?
Hi Anna, thank you very much and I truly appreciate your concern on the food wasting. I’m actually in talks with the manager of my local supermarket to see if they can provide me with fruits (coconuts and watermelons) that they intend throwing away after expiration.
As for the the spaghettios, I have no remorse in “wasting” such poison. And finally the water jugs are filled with tap water, after we drink them.
The HDR 50 is a standard 11 joules while the HDR 68 has had restrictor and valve block removed. Thank you again! :)
@@AirgunAlley Lol, yes they are nasty. Great job!
@@AirgunAlley On that note, will be having HDR 68 16j soon and really admire your 30j but worried about whether there is any cons in long term with removed restrictor and valve, 'juice' consumption and parts availability in SA. Are my concerns valid or should I keep it stock 🤔 excellent informative vid and I have hit that subscription button and bell.
The Rats in my Garden could be damaged. Thank you for the Test in Miami.
That is the best slugs ,nice video
They’re great! And thank you very much!!
I really enjoyed watching you destroy those cans of SpaghettiOs. Sir, now you have my attention!
can you drill a hole in them and place a shot gun primer and fill the backside with Tannerite
I think the sky is the limit with these things. Now, that sounds a bit too explosive for a gun made out of plastic, but who knows! I love the idea for sura :)
These z ram looks very durable and re usable multiple times.
Did you try shooting the same projectile twice ?
Oh yes, I’ve reused them several times. They’re now sending me a new version, more pointy… I look forward to trying those, stay tuned :)
for NON LETHAL home defense, the standard stock 11j HDR50 with standard concorde defender ammo should be fine, right? i believe theyre rubber or nylon (1.3 gram). these upgrades and alternative ammos are more for fun, correct? i dont feel like trying it on myself to find out, but i want to hear from others here if you think its enough or if i should modify it for more joules or get other types of ammo, what i hope to acomplish is for this to cause enough pain for the intruder to not want to be shot again and stop/give up/run away if its a person up to no good that want to cause me harm, kind of like you would feel if youre hit hard with a sjambok, baseballbat or similar and you DONT want that again. Thats what i hope it will do.
Hello my friend and great question. Also, this is the main question (and discussion) ever since these guns have been circulating.
I think an honest answer would be: it all really depends. If your intruder is an unarmed person, wearing light clothes and generally not desperate to absolutely get what he wants - then absolutely, you should be fine.
But if the intruder is all drugged up and doesn’t feel pain, armed and determined, then it would be safer to avoid pointing an HDR 50 at him and just run for the door.
In Europe you obviously have a much bigger chance to find your self in the first scenario. Here in the US you need to be really careful.
In conclusion, I think they’re great weapons to have, obviously the more powerful the better and also keep a variety of slugs in the same magazine is helpful. Alternating pointy ones, metal ballbearing ones and pepper balls. That way you have a bigger chance on a larger variety of scenarios. Hope this helps and indeed hopefully you’ll get more replies and points of view…
@@AirgunAlley It helps alot, thanks! Well, home defense is as valid of a question in europe as in the US depending on where you live but you cant defend yourself with gunpowder firearms without breaking the law, and getting a liscence etc is a hazzle, so this is one alternative. Since winter clothing is used for much of the year too, i should probably look for the types of ammo you tested here since it will probably go trough the clothes. And the HDR50 is not my only defensive item, i intend to use it to stop/chase away the threat FIRST, i want it to hurt enough to STOP whatever goes on but not to put a person down completely. Its a fine balance i know. But i have a (legal) plan B i hope i dont have to use if this is not enough.
Awesome slugs bro! I have part 1 and 2 of our interview up!
Thank you warrior for having me on your channel! Nice conversation :) Happy New Year!!
@@AirgunAlley welcome bro
Powerful.
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Ciao amico...grazie dei consigli.
Un abbraccio 🤗 dalla Sardegna
Ciao Salvatore! Sempre un piacere e grazie a te 🙌🏼
It *seems* the .50's are more effective than the .68's, yes? With your experience with the "normal" round ones, are the .50's more effective with those as well? It seems to my limited knowledge that their lighter weight and reduced wind resistance would mean they go further faster harder, yes?
Hi Scott, I would agree with you. These are very interesting, because they’re a hybrid between a piercing projectile and a “knock out” one. They don’t fully penetrate, but they hit hard.
I tried them on a ballistic dummy recently and even then it was hard to judge their performance.
They impact hard, but don’t penetrate. So it’s hard to evaluate how much pain they actually inflict. I suspect they hurt a lot, despite it being visually “improvable”.
I know I didn’t answer your question - but this is the analysis I’ve made on these thus far
Great video :D - I really need some of those projectiles... What is your favorite projectiles for HD?
Oh man, great question! I’m planning to do a ‘top 5 best slugs for the HDR’ - but it’s so hard to chose which ones. At the moment I keep 3 mags near my gun and they’re each loaded with (alternated): ballbearing slugs (devastator/deez bullets/jaw-droppers), steel/aluminum balls, pepper balls and now Zrams.
I think that alternating two of any of the projectiles I listed, is the most effective way to go… hope that somewhat helped 😬
It was an assault of multiple hornet stings!
Boom! Well said! 🙌🏼
Alright mate 👍 hope you had a great Xmas can't waite to see your new gun looks really nice I need some of them z rams now .have you watched a channel called zombie go boom you can buy billistic heads on their site think they are called Ivan heads . channel keeps getting better mate as always keep up the good work
Hey mate! Thanks a lot, I had a nice quiet Christmas (just like I like them). Hope yours wasn’t too shabby as well. Hahaha there goes another expense for you, the Zrams! I just hope your Mrs won’t make you unsubscribe from my channel one day 😂
Thanks for the heads up (no pun intended), I’ve seen that zombie go boom channel before actually. But I found some makers that are a bit closer (here in the US) and who’ve offered amazing discounts. But I’ll def reach out to them as well.
Anyway, have a lot of fun tonight my mate!!
Happy New Year!!
@@AirgunAlley you to mate have a great new year.i can see me having a hangover tomoz 🤣 that's a tomorrow problem
Very well done video do the 68caliber Z rams work in the T4E double barrel shotgun?
Yes ! And in the FSC, TCP, VKS, M17, etc… 👍🏼
Hey Jim, I haven’t tried them in the HDS ye but as you see the brand itself guarantees it :)
Happy New Year!!
What weight were you using in the later scenes please?
Excelente teste👍👍
Gracias amigo!! 🙌🏼
El túnel de destrucción es un test objetivo. Mejorando el canal. Parece que las bolas de acero penetran más que las Z Ram.
Gracias hermano, si el tubel de destruccion sera siempre un buen test objectivo para el futuro. Muchas gracias amigo!
How do you think 🤔 7.5 joule in a 68 caliber would be with this ammo?
With the lighter version (8,5g) and at closer range (around 15/20ft or 5/6m) I think they’re very effective also with the 7,5
Thank you my friend and have a happy New Year
I have some of Z-Ran older version, they shoot great zombies be where Is that the dragons claw 50 cal you showed there.
Wow real ballistic gel hitting the big times that stuff is not cheap BTW there is one way to damage a Z-Ram with another Z-Ram I've done it
We’re getting serious here, Uncle Frank! Everything I earn from youtube, I reinvest in my next videos…
Yessir that’s a Dragon Claw! I’m very exited to have bought it.
So how do you damage a Zram with another Zram! Shoot them in the same exact spot??
@@AirgunAlley By accidentally shooting one with another
@@smokingunclefrank6037 I knew it! You Robin Hooded them! 👏🏼
@@AirgunAlley Accidently Robin Hooded them I wasn't trying it just happened🤣
@@AirgunAlley Man you better have a very good back stop and be very careful that thing is a real killer 50 cal it's no paint ball gun
I always load er from Behind.
So the killer darts are the most effective penetrators so far, right
Yessir! So far I would absolutely confirm :)
7 shots with the 50 and 8 with the 68
Hey detective, as I say right after shooting the coconut (15:51): “I shot a couple of rounds at this”
Rounds=magazines
Bonjour,
LTL marque italienne a produit le Alpha en calibre 0.50
Les avis sont très moyens, mais LTL vient de produire le Bravo toujours en calibre 0.50 pour 18 joules annoncés.
As-tu eu l'occasion de le tester ?
Very interesting my friend and thank you for the info! I have never tried them, but will do a research now! 🙏🏽
I think those rounds are on homedefence 24
I wouldn't be surprised! You can find many similar slugs made by different brands nowadays :)
Love your skit introductions. This pellet makes this nonlethal a lethal, doesn't it?
Obviously yes 🧟♀️
@@noobt4eguns Yup. Like my little crossbow with double heavy razor tipped darts.
Thanks a lot my friend! Indeed these definitely inflict a lot more pain and penetration than most. Of course it all depends on distance, launcher power and where the shot is placed on the body, bet these are probably the most less less-lethal out there 😂
Ok first off lower your voice
I am glad you put safety first. Now one wants you to acidently shoot someone and annoy them by possibly brusing their skin.
Omg stop it, I’m on the floor laughing
Well, if you take a full power hdr50 the results would be another and the 50 will win for sure each test. Happy new year my friend.
May I ask what's your relationship to natives, because of the many old photos in your office?
Hello my friend and happy new year to you too!
Absolutely, these are pure bullets if you put them into a full powered gun.
For some reason I developed a strong interest in Native culture as a child and spending my childhood summers in a ranch in Texas (on what used to be Comanche territory) only made my passion stronger.
I also have a lot of Tibetan things, from my 12 years in Asia (half of which studying “Eastern philosophies”) but that’s for another time :)
Thanks for asking my dear Sven!
@@AirgunAlley thanks for answering, i thought smth like that. It's a lot western people can learn from them about nature and life, even their real life wasn't that romantic like the movies wanna tell us. We have to be open to any direction to find the truth in ourselves. It's cool you are open minded and look around in the world and see and study life,cultures. It "grows" your inside. Are you looking also for what in Buddhism they call "the door"?
@@sven471111 so true my friend! You are 100% right! We live in an era where we can learn so much from different cultures and hopefully benefit from the good in each of them.
I studied Buddhism and Hinduism in India for several years. Buddhism is definitely a very good “door” to find answers and techniques to a happier life :)
@@AirgunAlley as "Italian" you probably know the idiom "all roads lead to Rome". I read a bit from everything and a friend lived in Thailand for 15 years. The eastern religions have kept more truth and are full of miracles like the palm leaf libraries if you heard about them? But I think it's the individual mix everyone has to look by himself, though the goal is finally the same for all sooner or later. I learned to follow my intuition, it's the best teacher anyway. I only got bust when I didn't listen to it. It's like in matrix, with the red pill you get the truth even if it's a truth you maybe don't like. But in my opinion better know the truth than continue sleeping with the blue pill.
And...not all things from the modern world are bad. We should learn to find kinda good mix from the old and the new.
Which did you like better the killer spikes or the Zrams? I just ordered a modified hdr 33 joules.
Hello there! I think they both serve different purposes. The killer spikes will penetrate clothing and perhaps even some skin and tissue. The Zrams are more for knock out. The fact that they’re pointy - from what I’ve noticed so fat - doesn’t make them particularly penetrating. But a hit with those on the head… ouch! I often recommend to keep a variety of ammo and to alternate it in a magazine. That way you have more variety depending on the scenario. Hope that helps! Enjoy your 33j lil canon!
Hi, I've heard you need special magazines Z ram, is that true ?
Spot on!! I just filmed this video yesterday for this weekend!
There is a new 68 cal version, longer and more pointy, that comes with a 3D printed magazine to fit them.
But tor all the other versions, no special mag needed…
thanks for the comparison, my .22 crossman pump does more damage the that using copper coated ball bearings :-\ its shooting around 900 fps using plastic coated steel penetrators
Nice toy you got there man! Damn, 900 fps 😍
Haven't tried Red Flights yet. My Gamo Urban springer doesn't like 9.7 so I use 14.3. Sounds just like Daisy Red Ryder 😎
so far no one is experimenting 🤷♂️ I wonder if the 50 cal pellet with the red ballistic tip or if the muzzleloaders can fit in this since they are all the same caliber 🤔
Nice vid u should mold those
Thank you my friend!!! Happy New Year!!
Very cool!
Thank you Mihai! Happy New Year!!
@@AirgunAlley Happy New Year as well!
bro solidify your planks the sway messes the penetration up
Spot on my friend! I’m “upgrading” this thing I created as I go. I need to fix the boards on all three sides. Thanks for heads up!! 🙌🏼
Very informative and good grouping! I was wondering if these z projectiles would be capable of being fired from a first strike compatible marker like the valken m17?
Hi Michael, Zram says yes! But try double checking with them. Thank you my friend!! Happy New Year!!
Great video. Can I use the Z-RAM .68 10g ammo with the Valken M17 CQMF?
Thanks for a another great video👍 how many do you get with the 50 cal??
Hello, in a set are 6 high-precision reusable CNC turned stainless steel slugs. Greetings daniel
Hey Conner! Got your answer from them man himself! Thank you so much as always and Happy New Year!!
Nice!
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Onde compro essa munição perfurante?
Aqui señor
NEW! Z-Ram 50 cal ebay.us/L3U6Su
NEW! Z-Ram 68cal + magazine ebay.us/SvQeMy
ORIGINAL Z-Ram 50 cal: ebay.us/bt1h8W
ORIGINAL Z-Ram 68cal (8,5g): ebay.us/AhW4Mw
ORIGINAL Z-Ram 68 Cal (10g): ebay.us/dE9lOV
To expensive for that little extra power.
The winner up to date.. the Devastator.
Absolutely, cheap they’re not cheap. And the Devastators have that penetrating factor that so far very few have matched. BUT, those are the effects on coconuts and water jugs.
On a person, I think these bring a lot more pain than a ballbearing slug.
Anyway, we’ll soon have the moment of truth. I have a cool ballistic dummy on the way - and I plan to test a whole variety of slugs on it so we can finally compare them a bit better against each other… stay tuned my friend
Its his gun my paint ball 468 has 1100 psi flex regulator up to 1700psi his is at probaly 250 to 300 psi and drop fast with each shot
are these non lethal?
In most cases yes, they hurt, but don’t penetrate enough to kill. Of course, this could change if shot in an eye or temple at close range
@@AirgunAlley and can they be shipped to EU and whats the smallest gun that can suport them ?
Any link for purchase ? Thanks
Hello my friend! Here it is…good luck!
Z-Ram 50 cal: ebay.us/bt1h8W
Z-Ram 68cal (8,5g): ebay.us/AhW4Mw
Z-Ram 68 Cal (10g): ebay.us/dE9lOV
Is the barrel rifled???
No sir… it’s smooth and delicate :)
Do you have to have the z ram mag for the 68 to shoot them or can you use the stock mag ?
No not for these original ones.
You do with the new type here NEW! Z-RAM • For the HDR 50 & HDR 68
ruclips.net/video/BeSQvoXIpJY/видео.html
@@AirgunAlley are the new ones that much better or are the old ones just as good ?
considering the precision in the cans and the melon I think you are much closer than 6 meters?
Not unless the desk moved without me noticing! I shot more than one round (as I say at 15:51) and skipped the misses
@@AirgunAlley Ok using the imperfect automatic translator I didn't get this information...sorry 🙂
Do you have any idea of the difference in impact with the devastator?
Have a nice day
Hi Nico, haha no problem at all. I think the Devastator are stronger on impact, so better for hard surface. These are obviously good for penetration or for making a whole in fabric/clothes. In this video I compared various types, hope it helps 😊
ruclips.net/video/wXdm9opY73k/видео.html
@@AirgunAlley thank you and hello from France to all the American people peace and love
What is the price ?
Here you find all the info. Good luck!
Z-Ram 50 cal: ebay.us/bt1h8W
Z-Ram 68cal (8,5g): ebay.us/AhW4Mw
Z-Ram 68 Cal (10g): ebay.us/dE9lOV
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