The suspension and handlebar length are the main negatives. It has Zero adjustability and makes loud clanging sounds when it hits a bump or pot hole. The handlebars are about 52CM which is about the same as an Escooter. The handlebars are less of an issue though.
Correct - no way to adjust. It still is replaceable, but then you will lose the function to fold it. Are you sure the noise comes from the suspension? I've had a few bikes where it was the battery - you can try to remove it and see how things go.
I've come to this same debate- did you choose one? Engwe seems to be 30 kg and the Ado seems to be 20 kg is the main concern I have since I need to carry it up/down a flight of stairs to a train platform.
Can you please make a video on how to change brakes on fiido m1 please ? Would help me a tons as stock brakes are trash and you’ve mentioned that you were upgrading for Shimano MT200
Hey Viliam - I asked a local shop to do it for me. Unfortunately they were unable to keep the old handles with the sensors inside. So I have created a modification with hot-glue gun and adapted them to the new handles. And it works fairly well.
@@TechMishka thanks a lot, must give it a shot ! Mine stock ones are noisy as heck always when I’m going down hill . Fiido support said to me that they are noisy , because not set up correctly , but it seems like no matter how I set them they are cheap brakes . Such a bummer . Hope you check new laotie folding bike with 1000w and zoom brakes !
It would be great if they make 26 inch bike - Shimano 21 speed and double suspension. I would definitely go for that. Specially with this huge battery.
Some are some are not, did you notice one thing that is missing but is often seen on the 500? bet you didn't and this guy made a good job of hiding it as well..... A stirrup or stand under the bike, because without as in this one on show guess what you will rest the on the ground when folded.. THE CHAIN RING.
In the UK this model is now being sold with a 15ah battery, and no longer has the Bafang motor (Satang now?). It's also over £900 - do you think it's still worth the price? I bought a "SAMEBIKE" folding bike recently which was an absolute nightmare, the motor failed within 2 days. Cheers from rainy old England!
Which SAMEBIKE model did you get? I'm in the UK, and I'm in the same position - I have been debating between Engwe C20 Pro, SAMEBIKE 20vlxd-ii, Pvy Z20 pro, ADO A20 Xe...
@@byshiri1751 I had the 20vlxd-II - terrible quality control. The ENGWE looks like it's had a lot more thought and design put into it, with a custom manufactured frame instead of that same off the shelf one used on many of these Chinese ebikes.
@@TechMishka I managed to get a second-hand "Eskute Polluno" with a 14.5ah battery, and another spare 14.5ah battery included for £500 total, which I'm very happy with! It doesn't look as sleek as the C20 though haha!
Did you notice one thing that is missing but is often seen on the 500? bet you didn't and this guy made a good job of hiding it as well..... A stirrup or stand under the bike, because without as in this one on show guess what you will rest the on the ground when folded.. THE CHAIN RING.
@@TechMishka thanks 😉!! what about the Engwe EP-2 Pro or Engwe Engine Pro, do you feel any difference between the hill climbing performance and top speed of those bikes in comparison to the C20 Pro?. 👍
What's the real range because what the manufacturers says usually about double the real range lol My Fiido L3 23.2ah 350w does 46mls Just using throttle Manufacturer says 80mls
Huh?? This video is supposed to be about the C20 Pro and on their own website they have it listed as "C20 Pro 48V 500W Fat Tire Folding E-Bike"... Why are you siting the wattage at literally half of what they say on their website?
@@TechMishka That is certainly true! I live in a 4th floor flat with no lift though. Suddenly having pedal assist seems trivial in the overall experience of a bike ride, unless some kind of hydraulic ecto skeleton suit came with it!
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What mic are you using? It sounds really good quality
Perhaps it mostly is the post-processing. I use the lavalier microphone from the Lark 150 by Hollyland.
Another day of enjoyment 👍🏻👍🏻, and first comment, enjoy it as much as you can Mihail 😍😍
does it come with mudguards? how easy is it to change the speed?
Very nice bike with an huge battery indeed, thank you for sharing with us
The suspension and handlebar length are the main negatives. It has Zero adjustability and makes loud clanging sounds when it hits a bump or pot hole. The handlebars are about 52CM which is about the same as an Escooter. The handlebars are less of an issue though.
Correct - no way to adjust. It still is replaceable, but then you will lose the function to fold it.
Are you sure the noise comes from the suspension? I've had a few bikes where it was the battery - you can try to remove it and see how things go.
Clanging sounds stopped after replacing a rigid ring at the end of spring .You need to find elastic or rubber ring.
Hello with which hydraulic diskbrake set can you upgrade this bike
Grzzz from the netherlands
Hey Niels - I would use the SHimano M200, only drawback is that you need to find a way to work the electronics out.
If you fold the pedals, how wide is the bike (excluding the handlebars)?
It is around 20 centimeters.
Engwe c20 vs Ado A20 plus. Which is better?
Both are good.
I've come to this same debate- did you choose one? Engwe seems to be 30 kg and the Ado seems to be 20 kg is the main concern I have since I need to carry it up/down a flight of stairs to a train platform.
Can you please make a video on how to change brakes on fiido m1 please ? Would help me a tons as stock brakes are trash and you’ve mentioned that you were upgrading for Shimano MT200
Hey Viliam - I asked a local shop to do it for me. Unfortunately they were unable to keep the old handles with the sensors inside. So I have created a modification with hot-glue gun and adapted them to the new handles. And it works fairly well.
@@TechMishka thanks a lot, must give it a shot ! Mine stock ones are noisy as heck always when I’m going down hill . Fiido support said to me that they are noisy , because not set up correctly , but it seems like no matter how I set them they are cheap brakes . Such a bummer . Hope you check new laotie folding bike with 1000w and zoom brakes !
Does this use the same battery as the ep-2 pro?
As far as I know it is a different one.
It would be great if they make 26 inch bike - Shimano 21 speed and double suspension.
I would definitely go for that. Specially with this huge battery.
Yup, agreed. Thing is that good gears will cost a lot more...
What kind of deal can I get if there a direct warehouse deal or website how can I order it Direct
Oh, that I don't know. Check with Engwe, or try to browse Alibaba.
dear sir why do you say its a 250 watt motor because looking on the sites that are selling this model they all say 500 watt motor.
Some are some are not, did you notice one thing that is missing but is often seen on the 500? bet you didn't and this guy made a good job of hiding it as well..... A stirrup or stand under the bike, because without as in this one on show guess what you will rest the on the ground when folded.. THE CHAIN RING.
Do it got a twist throttle?
Yes.
how do you enable the twist throttle?
It was there by default. There might be a button combination. Check the user guide.
@@TechMishkaso its enabled when you've assembled it?
does it have the CE certifikat?
There is such marking on the box. But you better keep the acceleration lever disconnected.
Is there a way to unlock the speed?
I thin so, but never really tried the procedure.
how do you lock it?
Buy a lock of course.
There is a key for the folding mechanism.
Thanks
In the UK this model is now being sold with a 15ah battery, and no longer has the Bafang motor (Satang now?).
It's also over £900 - do you think it's still worth the price? I bought a "SAMEBIKE" folding bike recently which was an absolute nightmare, the motor failed within 2 days.
Cheers from rainy old England!
Which SAMEBIKE model did you get?
I'm in the UK, and I'm in the same position - I have been debating between Engwe C20 Pro, SAMEBIKE 20vlxd-ii, Pvy Z20 pro, ADO A20 Xe...
@@byshiri1751 I had the 20vlxd-II - terrible quality control. The ENGWE looks like it's had a lot more thought and design put into it, with a custom manufactured frame instead of that same off the shelf one used on many of these Chinese ebikes.
I think this bike is a great balance between weight and performance. It is not a high end bike, but certainly better than Samebike
@@TechMishka I managed to get a second-hand "Eskute Polluno" with a 14.5ah battery, and another spare 14.5ah battery included for £500 total, which I'm very happy with!
It doesn't look as sleek as the C20 though haha!
Any idea what's the torque of the 500W version?
Nope...
How high are you ? Itspossible to drvie for guy about 190cm ?
I am 188cm, so it should be ok for 190cm too.
Have you seen the SDream?
Not yet. Sounds like I should!
Did you notice one thing that is missing but is often seen on the 500? bet you didn't and this guy made a good job of hiding it as well..... A stirrup or stand under the bike, because without as in this one on show guess what you will rest the on the ground when folded.. THE CHAIN RING.
It doesn't make any contact with the chain. And you can always put the pedal there. Many ebikes are like that these days.
Hello. How it compares to Xiaomi Qicycle Smart? Thanks 😉
I can't give any credible opinion, because haven't tried the Quicycle myself.
@@TechMishka thanks 😉!! what about the Engwe EP-2 Pro or Engwe Engine Pro, do you feel any difference between the hill climbing performance and top speed of those bikes in comparison to the C20 Pro?. 👍
Engwe c20 pro battery removable …?
Yes, it is.
On the website it say it has 15.6 Ah. Not 19
They have released a few newer editions after the review appeared.
What's the real range because what the manufacturers says usually about double the real range lol
My Fiido L3 23.2ah 350w
does 46mls
Just using throttle
Manufacturer says 80mls
10ah real range 25km/15miles
So 19ah maybe 50-60km
23ah 46miles no pedaling sounds nice!
Can i buy it for food delivery?
Sure! I think it will be a great bike for food delivery.
can someone steal the Battery if they wanted to?
That’s a good point lol … I believe… yes. Only deterrents are to take the battery out or… yea that’s it
They will need the key, and if they do not know how the mechanism works - not that easy.
I cant get the battery out
Might be stuck due to some reason. You also need to unlock it via the key as a starter.
Can you disable the throttle since it is not legal in most EU countries?
Yes, you can.
@@TechMishka do you know if I have to remove the whole throttle cable, or is it a setting in the display menu?
Thanks
@@JamieBRD26 setting in display menu
Seem look slow as 15mph as 250 wAtts. Lectric Xp lite it’s 20 mph and 300 watts plus 720 watts peak. I pick a lectric Xp lites.
Good suggestion. Will check it out.
@@TechMishka on Engwe's website, this bike has been upgraded to 48v, 500w, 10ah. i'm not sure if the version you have is still selling there?
Nói nhiều quá, và nói gần như là liên tục, tôi không nghe được âm thanh vận hành êm hay không khi qua các quãng đường “đường tốt, đường xấu”?
You want to hear the sound of the bike? I can share some of the raw footage. Feel free to reach out via email and I will help
I checked website said $799 not $899
Looks like the price has been increased.
Huh?? This video is supposed to be about the C20 Pro and on their own website they have it listed as "C20 Pro
48V 500W Fat Tire Folding E-Bike"... Why are you siting the wattage at literally half of what they say on their website?
Could be that there is a newer version of the bike. I've presented the specs as they were with the unit I've been testing.
@@TechMishka common sense isn’t common, great review friend
Hi my battery is stuck
That's nasty! Go to a repair shop, must be something minor.
Did you take key out?
@@neutron-man ye i got it to work now engwe said that i shoul pry the battery out with the key and then i got it
10ah version 600€ for sale nice price🔥
I use g30 max for food delivery top quality tank scooter :D
👍👍👍
Where
You can fold it, but it still weighs WAY too much! The downgrades are annoying too
Description initially said 25kg. Feels more like 55 kg.
This one is one of the light ebikes. You should check Engwe X20 as a reference 😀
@@TechMishka That is certainly true! I live in a 4th floor flat with no lift though. Suddenly having pedal assist seems trivial in the overall experience of a bike ride, unless some kind of hydraulic ecto skeleton suit came with it!
Pity it doesn't have a rear rack.
You can always buy a third-party option.
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