USA Fender Jazz Bass with a Stingray humbucker pickup
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Fender USA Jazz Bass 1997. Modified with Bartolini pickups and Ernie Ball Stingray 5 string pickup. John East deluxe Marcus Miller preamp. Badass Bridge.
Extra switching for pole tap and pickup select
I really appreciate the demo, I was curious what a music man stingray pick up sounds like along side the Fender jazz pickups. Now I know,
thank you so much
I had to pause at the 2:53 mark simply to say you're definitely not "mad". I enjoy the sound you're getting from this set up more than any musicman bass I've heard. Also the sound by itself is ultra unique (needless to say). Resonates incredibly well. The high notes have that nice snappy yet full sound and bottom notes have crystal clear definition. This was a great investment in my humble opinion.
This is great! I wonder why not more companies build J/MM basses this way, only Atelier Z comes to my mind. Having a separate full MM pickup solves several problems at once that basses with a J pickup in the middle and a humbucker in the bridge have: 1. splitting a MM-style pickup doesn't give you a J sound at all, and a dual-J also doesn't sound like a StingRay, and 2. the humbucker is too close to the bridge on those basses. Moving it a little closer to the neck produces a sound that I actually prefer! Awesome demo!
My main bass is also a J/MM bass that gets pretty close to both sounds: a Clover Apeiron H.5. They solve problem 1 with a special pickup, Delano TheHybrid, which is like a traditional Fender J pickup when split (dual small AlNiCo5 magnets for each string), but in MM mode, it uses only a part of the J coil and combines it with a true MM-style coil with single big magnets for each string. The pickup sounds are on point, but the pickup is a little to far back so it sounds less ballsy and more focused compared to a StingRay.
I'm SO doing this to my Jazz... Maybe the most versatile bass I've ever heard!
i think it is!!
awesome work, almost sounds like a modulus fb4
What a beautiful bass! Looks great, sounds even better.
a great mod . . . plenty of different , great, useable sounds here . . great idea
Wow! Thanks for your video. I've got the same idea and found your test and it inspired me to Frankenstein my jazz bass
Also interesting about preamp and wire scheme of your setup. Please share if it possible :)
Its good to have this cold sound as you said,cauz' it gives all the definition,its good dont worry!
Just finding this now -- thanks for posting. Researching possible pickup configurations for a fretless and this is informative. (Also checked out a couple of your Soundcloud tunes from five years ago -- 'bout the time of your comment a few down -- with what I assume is this bass -- sounds good in the mix!)
It is this bass but in Jazz Bass mode only
Amazing, I was just thinking of building this the other day, thanks!
Dang, now that is some hi-fidelity tone for your butt. Great demo, thanks for posting.
Your bass sounds ridiculously sweet!
Great sound! Do you have any examples of all pickups being used at the same time?
Great sounds, How did you make the connection? do you have a diagram?
tracks with this bass: soundcloud.com/palmgrease
I've been using this bass for a couple of years now, I'd like to share my thoughts on how it's worked out.
I use it as a Jazz Bass or or a Stingray.. I got used to the switching. I love the distinct difference between the two sounds. It really was like having both basses in one instrument.
The stingray p'up needs the tops and bottoms boosted by the J East pre-amp to get the authentic Stingray sound and it's easily obtainable.
Barolini JB p'ups have a natural scooped real quality sound, and they are both humbuckers so no noise when singled out.
If you check my Soundcloud page (address posted) you can hear this bass in action, although all the tracks use variations of the Jazz Bass mode which my favoured sound for recording.
Because I can switch the MM p'up to single coil and that means either single coil, and then mix it with the Barts, front, back or both, I really do have a 'Swiss Army Knife' bass here. The Back coil MM & the back p'up is a Warwick, the front coil with the back p'up has that PJ bark similar to Mr Wooten.
Other combinations are really quite unique.
The passive switch gives a whole new vintage dimension to the bass, and the East pre-amp includes a passive tone control.
That's great when using the front p'up on it's own. It really does sound like a vintage 'P' Bass.
Sound so versatile. Nice demo. Enjoyed it. oNe LovE from NYC
Nice Humbucker sound
2:40 this is psycho funky cool yeah
Sir great video and cool guitar. My son plays bass and I'm trying to build a jazz bass for him, he doesn't know yet, would there be a wiring diagram you might share with me. I can't afford a fancy bass but I am half decent at woodworking. I have a bunch of birds eye maple and some rose wood from an old boat found in the bush. I'll cast sterling switch plates from old serving dishes , lost wax I learned as a kid. Wiring kills me. Thankyou and God bless.
My advice to be taken with a pinch of salt:
This is an active bass with a modified John East Marcus Miller deluxe preamp. The preamp alone was about £250 before the mod and they probably cost even more now.
Not really an item to install into a beginners bass unless you have a reasonably large budget.
I'd just stick with the standard passive jazz bass circuit to start with.
Here’s another thought
A 70s jazz has the back pick-up closer to the neck which would allow someone to get the humbucker a little closer to the 79cm sweet spot
Well mine is north of that as I said in the vid but if you heard it in a mix or live I don't think you'd know it wasn't a Ray. I had both side by side and there was no discernible difference.
Probably not! Most people don't have the ears they think they do.
A lot of this stuff starts with knowinbg the variables ahead of time, and they hear what they see.
The 70s jazz just has the pickup closer the bridge by a couple of cm, which would give them the opportunity to get it closer to where they think it SHOULD be.
I've been after a fretless stingray for my channel for ages and I cannot get one.
I DO have a jazz, though, so I think I'll be following your example
@@shonkerlino Can i ask you how your controls are laid out?
@@mindhead2005 the controls start with the John East Marcus Miller Deluxe pre. A lot of control. Find it on the web for the specs.
I added 2 triple select mini toggles.
1st toggles between the Jazz bridge pup and the MM pup.
Jazz/ both/ mm
The 2nd only effects the MM
pup.
Front coil/ both/ back coil.
With the J East balance control between front 'back this config allows for any combination of the 4 coils available. 2 coils being on the MM.
Besides the passive tone which behaves live a regular tone on a passive Fender and also effects the overall tone active or passive....
Plus the parametric mid sweep with cut and boost and active highs and lows the tonal variations are mind boggling.
That's why I'm so boggled.
Good luck
@@shonkerlino it’s a wide range of control, to be fair
Thanks for replying
Wicked!
had a horrible cold when i recorded this, makes me sound a bit fed up, but I'm not xx
Thank for your demo, fit your humbucker : how much millimèters from the up of the neck ?
from the 12th fret to the centre of the 'neck row' of the humbucker magnet = 31cm. A real Stingray is 32cm usually.
@@shonkerlino they usually measure it from the nut to the centre line of the p/u
So 79cm in the case of a stingray
This has certainly given me ideas
This is 75.5 to the centre line of the pickup from the nut. But this is a 'Jazzray' not a 'Stingeay'.
@@shonkerlino Its really not a huge difference, 3.5cm, is it?
This is good news. I was at a music store today asking if this was possible and they weren't sure. How did you get your hands on a Stingray pickup? I didn't see any for sale on their website. Thanks for the video
luckily, I found a guy (Andy Pask) who was selling it on Ebay, I guess he substituted the original for an aftermarket pickup.
He told me this one was overwound by Kent Armstrong himself, which give it a slightly 'darker' sound than the stock, his words not mine.
It sounds completely 'ray' like to me and I love it.
There are plenty of 3rd party pickups you can choose from, Seymore Duncan, Bartolini to name just two.
is getting a Seymour Duncan version of this where the bridge pickup should be with a 3 way selector switch to put on my Mark Hoppus Jazz Bass a bad idea. Thinking of doing it to compliment the SPB-3 quarter-pounders.
where did you get this pickguard? and how did you route the holes?
It’s a standard pick guard I modified with a hot lino cutter and file.
Routing was done with a hammer and chisels, very nervously
Great idea, I'm looking for preamp options for doing the same thing. The east pre seems to have everything covered
Just make sure you have enough space for the select switch/s
hi i would like to know if it’s possible to simulate a humbucker of a bass guitar with the preamp or no and with a bass guitar PJ = pickups like P or J
second, for the guitars you have with a humbucker
i would like to know if a coil split does exist and if it can sound like a precision or jazz pickup (as single coils pickups)
and or if a humbucker can sound like a P or J with the preamp
my opinion: simple answer is no. a single coil neck p'up on its own is similar to a 'p' but it's not the same. Jazz bass p'ups with a pre can only approximate the MM p'up but a direct comparison ...nowhere near!
Fascinating. Sounds great, really.
Generally don't like JB. Sounds like elephant banjo - unless it's only neck PU.
Strange thing here: didn't really like the HB + neck SC combination, however HB + bridge SC sounded very nice.
Personally, I'd probably prefer HB closer to bridge, but that can't be done without messing with the original JB composition.
Have ideas about HBMM very close to bridge, inverted HBPB perhaps a slight bit farther back than standard and some SCPB or SCJB in neck position. Turned some 45° 'backwards' to pick some more of the mids on both sides.
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Yes, and one more thing...
The HBMM, is it active parallel while the JBSC:s are passive series?
Do active blend well with passive? People say they usually don't.
All pickups are routed through the J East preamp which can be active or passive.
The pickups themselves are all passive.
@@shonkerlino Okay. I know so little.. Thought that was like part of the concept, the definition, that MM-type pickups were always made to work with active circuitry.
@@tunnelmassa1943 nope, this is an original Musicman pickup and it is passive, the real stingray sound is the pickup enhanced by the preamp.
An active pickup is something else. Needs its own power supply to work as far as I know.
That's fucking brilliant haha
miles Williams colourful language but nicely put...! ;-)
Where can I get one? Simply brilliant!!!
you can't buy one like this as far as I know (which is the point really). You'll have to customise a bass yourself or get help doing it!
Messy. But beautiful
Messy?? Think it looks funky (the good funky)
i came
Behave…!
Manowar bass xdd