I searched so long ago for this kind of Monopoly Full Playthrough but i couldn't see. Only tonight it appears in my recommendations. Thanks for this amazing show.
8:30-ish: Buy all the houses and refuse to upgrade them to high-density housing in an attempt to screw over everyone else. Where have I heard that before?
@52:44 In my Monopoly Set, it says differently. There is a NOTE: If the owner fails to ask for their Rent before the second player following throws the dice, the Rent is not collectible.
52:30 Depending on what version of the game you are playing, you only owe rent if the owner of the property asks within one turn (in modern sets) or within two turns (in older sets). I personally play with the older rules no matter what set I'm playing with because someone could instantly swipe up the dice and roll and screw you out of the rent. When you play with fast players, it's often literally not enough time to ask, especially if anything remotely distracted you.
So, maybe common knowledge now, but the inevitable death curve was supposed to be there to teach you about the evils of capitalism. It's not supposed to be a fun game.
this would be true if in RL: People rolled dice and move around the world randomly. proceeding to land on houses and being forced to pay rent. Capitalism isn't evil. Government intervention in capitalism is evil. Imagine the forced moving and dice rolling as the government pointing a gun at you and forcing to to do so, then your example might make sense.
Except no, saying 'government intervention in capitalism is always evil' is exactly as dumb as saying all corporations are evil and want to destroy the world. Maybe more, based on results. Almost no matter where you're writing from, I guarantee some of the rules put on the market are to everyone's benefit. I mean, monopoly, the actual situation and not just the name of the game, can occur real, real easy without deliberately being outlawed or made tougher or trust-busted or any of that.
@@MultiAsdag oh great another anarchicapitalist going "no actually laws to curtail the worst abuses and ensure human rights are bad and evil and letting the free market sort it out is to everyone benefit". You do realise that companies hate competition and will do anything to not have to compete and would pay you in company script you can only spend in their stores if they could right? Or force you and your 8 year old son to work 16 hours a day to eke out a living? This has literally happened its not theory. And is happening. For example Internet in the usa is famously atrocious because the providers basically divided the country and dictate quality and prices in their part.
I think it is kinda interesting the design; Like Kathleen said; there's no way to speed up the game when someone is clearly gonna win But there's also no catch up mechanic, and thus no reason why the game drags on And then most house rules try and add money payouts, but all that does is make the dragging out, longer. Cause there's still no way to speed up, or catch up (You got an extra 2k, is that gonna help you when the other player owns most the board charging 3k a pop? No!) It has such an unavoidable death curve.
I haven't watched the whole video, so chat might have pointed this out, but it isn't the "Reeding" Railroad; it's the "Redding" Railroad, pronounced like bed or dead.
Granticus3000 *slowly removes glasses while staring at Google image search for old logos of Monopoly* "My God, he's right... what have I led myself to believe?" oh well, TIL...
DwarvenSteel it looks like there is a serious Mandela effect going on here. Maybe next time Ian just needs to bring the monocle and a jar of peanuts to snack on. Next TTSF: Ian makes peanut butter from peanuts dressed as Mr. Peanut (but who is secretly just a be-monocled Uncle Pennybags)?
It warms my heart greatly that they not only choose to play monopoly but play by standard rules only. (I also remember the days of 5 1s, 5s, 10s; 6 20s; 2 50s, 100s, and 500s.)
There's also Cheaters edition monopoly, that says if you can get away with it it is a legal move. if you're caught, reverse that move and put the handcuff on until someone else is caught.
I remember being 1 or 2 and being at the table while my parents and my brother were playing the game I had no concept as to how to play it and I honestly really didn’t till maybe recently
I think the problem with monopoly even with the correct rules is it still maintains too much of its roots ... ie a showcase about why monopoly power is bad. And thus its a game where you agonizingly slowly are bleed of money till you are finally out of the game, while it's fairly clear from a long time out that you can't win and the person bleeding you will win. Then when you are out you have to sit and watch the others play which can often be an extremely long time.
It is certainly telling that the best way to improve a game with those victory conditions is to simply remove all of the catch up mechanics so the game can end as quickly as possible.
Playing Monopoly with my [parent] made me so terrified of sucking at board-games I avoided anything of similar complexity for literally ~3 decades (with the occasional exception because the unrelated person convincing me to give them a go was a very good ''kisser'' and didn't get mad when I didn't play correctly or optimally), I even avoided this stream when it was live, and the vod for THIS long. Dyscalculia is a hell of a thing to not diagnose or understand or even know about, and it made keeping track of all the numbers pretty much impossible for my tiny brain. I did play a digital version a few times with my partner a few years ago and having something else keep track of the numbers and rules was a lot more fun, but we both agreed the computer-players were definitely cheating. XD
Kathleen should of been putting houses on the light blues and brown way sooner and not invested in the dark green. The brown would have been a lower priority, but after 3 houses on the light blues the basically stop collecting money from go if they landed on one. It hurts seeing her not using that to bleed them dry earlier on in the game and possibly stop Ian from snowballing. Though it was in interesting game seeing everyone play nice and giving away monopolies to the other players. I don't like the collecting money from free parking rule, it adds so much extra cash and prolongs the game.
ExodaCrown very frustrating to hear her calling herself the “slum lord” each house on green would of been 4 on the first leg of the board! She was cash rich at early stage!
so did anyone have these house rules that everything has to be bought by players before you trade to get monopoly and fase 2 starts where you can buy houses and hotels and there is no trading our auctions in fase 1 and that is how you get 9 hours games
we have those rules on our monopoly. really punishes you when you've spent ages building up a row of houses, and then someone lands on it while you're using the toilet.
Frak. This distracted me just enough from my presentation assignment that I don't have it done the night before I need to have it done. Also Monopoly is really frickin' messed up.
What so frustrating is that we are missing the other half of this game... Does anyone know if that version still exists (the lady that originally made this game made a second half where you play again, but cooperatively, to show the value of socialism/communism or some similar angle... but then some dipshit and MB decided 'you know what, we just could go for the first bit and thats it' very very paraphrased, but you get the idea)
We only have one rule at our house - we don't do auctions. If somebody doesn't want the property they landed on, they just don't want it and we move on.
Alberich LP the issue is that I keep hearing "you can do things at any time" but doesn't that mean that you can respond to someone landing on a square? Like if you see someone landing on Boardwalk in a game that you own park place as well, can you not respond by making a hotel and screwing someone?
...so the prototypical game of Monopoly, then? Right - glad I read the comments before investing three hours - I'll play it in the background while doing something else, because it's LRR - heck, they make *Desert Bus* FUN, ffs ^_^
Are you kidding me? The Free Parking Cash rule is one of the worst things anyone has added to a board game. It serves no purpose other than to add more dumb luck to the game and make it go on even longer.
EightThreeEight The sheer number of tables-turned moments Free Parking had provided (in conjunction with the Street Repairs card) has been one of the biggest highlights of the family board game experience. Lots of jaws dropping, lots of screaming, lots of smiles wiped clean off. Those memories are what family games are about, man - not just how to make your lines of code run more efficiently.
EightThreeEight Yeah I think that's a broader point though about how many popular board games rely on luck. (For me there's enough strategy too though.) And to be honest dumb luck derailing well laid plans fits the original intended purpose of Monopoly as an excoriating critique of capitalism.
I searched so long ago for this kind of Monopoly Full Playthrough but i couldn't see.
Only tonight it appears in my recommendations.
Thanks for this amazing show.
8:30-ish: Buy all the houses and refuse to upgrade them to high-density housing in an attempt to screw over everyone else. Where have I heard that before?
@52:44
In my Monopoly Set, it says differently. There is a NOTE: If the owner fails to ask for their Rent before the second player following throws the dice, the Rent is not collectible.
"That's healthcare in the united states apparently" Oh no, it's much, much worse than that.
Only 100, wow, that's less than literally 1 percent of the average Hospital feed
52:30
Depending on what version of the game you are playing, you only owe rent if the owner of the property asks within one turn (in modern sets) or within two turns (in older sets). I personally play with the older rules no matter what set I'm playing with because someone could instantly swipe up the dice and roll and screw you out of the rent. When you play with fast players, it's often literally not enough time to ask, especially if anything remotely distracted you.
A monopoly game that's UNDER 3 hours????
I guess you CAN find anything on the internet.
wizkida981015 When you play with the actual rules it's actually a pretty fast game.
So, maybe common knowledge now, but the inevitable death curve was supposed to be there to teach you about the evils of capitalism. It's not supposed to be a fun game.
this would be true if in RL: People rolled dice and move around the world randomly. proceeding to land on houses and being forced to pay rent. Capitalism isn't evil. Government intervention in capitalism is evil. Imagine the forced moving and dice rolling as the government pointing a gun at you and forcing to to do so, then your example might make sense.
Except no, saying 'government intervention in capitalism is always evil' is exactly as dumb as saying all corporations are evil and want to destroy the world. Maybe more, based on results. Almost no matter where you're writing from, I guarantee some of the rules put on the market are to everyone's benefit. I mean, monopoly, the actual situation and not just the name of the game, can occur real, real easy without deliberately being outlawed or made tougher or trust-busted or any of that.
@@MultiAsdag oh great another anarchicapitalist going "no actually laws to curtail the worst abuses and ensure human rights are bad and evil and letting the free market sort it out is to everyone benefit". You do realise that companies hate competition and will do anything to not have to compete and would pay you in company script you can only spend in their stores if they could right? Or force you and your 8 year old son to work 16 hours a day to eke out a living? This has literally happened its not theory. And is happening. For example Internet in the usa is famously atrocious because the providers basically divided the country and dictate quality and prices in their part.
@@MultiAsdag Roosevelt is turning in his grave. Trusts are made to be busted. Oil companies are using the same playbook as in his day.
22:30 or so, did beej give himself $500?
Yes. It's pointed out later in the video
I think it is kinda interesting the design;
Like Kathleen said; there's no way to speed up the game when someone is clearly gonna win
But there's also no catch up mechanic, and thus no reason why the game drags on
And then most house rules try and add money payouts, but all that does is make the dragging out, longer.
Cause there's still no way to speed up, or catch up
(You got an extra 2k, is that gonna help you when the other player owns most the board charging 3k a pop? No!)
It has such an unavoidable death curve.
They seemed to have changed the money distribution nowadays. It was 5 1s, 5 5s, 5 10s, 6 20s, 2 50s, 2 100s, and 2 500s.
SmaugUKA that's still the same about
@@repinswatson6452 what smaug listed is $2500. they got $1500 in this game. it depends on the set.
I haven't watched the whole video, so chat might have pointed this out, but it isn't the "Reeding" Railroad; it's the "Redding" Railroad, pronounced like bed or dead.
I'm surprised there's no monocle, Ian! Other than that, looking quite dapper, sir!
tsysman21 The Monopoly Man never wore a monacle
Granticus3000 *slowly removes glasses while staring at Google image search for old logos of Monopoly*
"My God, he's right... what have I led myself to believe?"
oh well, TIL...
After some research ... cause ... shut up that's why ... it seems likely you and I combined him with "Mr. Peanut" who is fairly visually similar
DwarvenSteel it looks like there is a serious Mandela effect going on here. Maybe next time Ian just needs to bring the monocle and a jar of peanuts to snack on.
Next TTSF: Ian makes peanut butter from peanuts dressed as Mr. Peanut (but who is secretly just a be-monocled Uncle Pennybags)?
I think the Mandela Effect is happening
Does Canada get its own Monopoly board? As others have said there's a London version and there's a Dublin board too.
Multiple versions! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Monopoly
It warms my heart greatly that they not only choose to play monopoly but play by standard rules only. (I also remember the days of 5 1s, 5s, 10s; 6 20s; 2 50s, 100s, and 500s.)
There's also Cheaters edition monopoly, that says if you can get away with it it is a legal move. if you're caught, reverse that move and put the handcuff on until someone else is caught.
Wow.
That sounds like complete bullshit.
I used to love Monopoly as a small kid. God knows why.
I remember being 1 or 2 and being at the table while my parents and my brother were playing the game
I had no concept as to how to play it and I honestly really didn’t till maybe recently
What is the intro music? I absolutely love it
I think the problem with monopoly even with the correct rules is it still maintains too much of its roots ... ie a showcase about why monopoly power is bad. And thus its a game where you agonizingly slowly are bleed of money till you are finally out of the game, while it's fairly clear from a long time out that you can't win and the person bleeding you will win. Then when you are out you have to sit and watch the others play which can often be an extremely long time.
It is certainly telling that the best way to improve a game with those victory conditions is to simply remove all of the catch up mechanics so the game can end as quickly as possible.
Singing the Electric Company Spider-Man theme made me very happy. :)
Wait, you don't reshuffle the decks in Monopoly after you run out of them, and instead keep discarded cards face down on the bottom of their piles?
Beej 'Steals Ians 500' Beejington
I didn't know you could buy houses at instant speed!
Ikr, thought it was a sorcery!
Playing Monopoly with my [parent] made me so terrified of sucking at board-games I avoided anything of similar complexity for literally ~3 decades (with the occasional exception because the unrelated person convincing me to give them a go was a very good ''kisser'' and didn't get mad when I didn't play correctly or optimally), I even avoided this stream when it was live, and the vod for THIS long.
Dyscalculia is a hell of a thing to not diagnose or understand or even know about, and it made keeping track of all the numbers pretty much impossible for my tiny brain.
I did play a digital version a few times with my partner a few years ago and having something else keep track of the numbers and rules was a lot more fun, but we both agreed the computer-players were definitely cheating. XD
Ian saying "i'm really good at making deals" reminds me of Trump 😅
Kathleen should of been putting houses on the light blues and brown way sooner and not invested in the dark green. The brown would have been a lower priority, but after 3 houses on the light blues the basically stop collecting money from go if they landed on one. It hurts seeing her not using that to bleed them dry earlier on in the game and possibly stop Ian from snowballing. Though it was in interesting game seeing everyone play nice and giving away monopolies to the other players. I don't like the collecting money from free parking rule, it adds so much extra cash and prolongs the game.
ExodaCrown very frustrating to hear her calling herself the “slum lord” each house on green would of been 4 on the first leg of the board! She was cash rich at early stage!
What is the link to your Twitch stream?
so did anyone have these house rules that everything has to be bought by players before you trade to get monopoly and fase 2 starts where you can buy houses and hotels and there is no trading our auctions in fase 1 and that is how you get 9 hours games
we have those rules on our monopoly. really punishes you when you've spent ages building up a row of houses, and then someone lands on it while you're using the toilet.
wait, there are houses and hotels?????
as a british person, the names are so... irksome
I know right, where is old Kent road and Mayfair.....
Why in London, of course; WE are playing in ATLANTIC CITY, though (you know, the *original*) ;)
Yes yes, Quakers and such. The English edition just seems better to me.
I was so confused I was like WHAT IS THIS GAME THIS ISN'T WHAT I KNOW!!!!
Jaded Empath Oh is the American one the original version??)
I run a mono poly deck. my spells are all poly spells.
How very American, going bankrupt to a hospital bill...
I mean, if they wanted to keep it true to real life, the card should just read, "hospital fees, you go bankrupt after a slow, crushing period of time"
Just starting this, I am guessing Beej will destroy, but who knows? Businesses men IRL are best monopoly players though heh heh
Adam 86 Nope
It's Monopoly. It's almost all down to luck.
Frak. This distracted me just enough from my presentation assignment that I don't have it done the night before I need to have it done. Also Monopoly is really frickin' messed up.
If the bank auctions and no one has money, no one gets the property!
Those Dice man, they're sick!!
You guys should play dungeon alliance for afk!
What so frustrating is that we are missing the other half of this game... Does anyone know if that version still exists (the lady that originally made this game made a second half where you play again, but cooperatively, to show the value of socialism/communism or some similar angle... but then some dipshit and MB decided 'you know what, we just could go for the first bit and thats it' very very paraphrased, but you get the idea)
No body ever wins at monopoly
We only have one rule at our house - we don't do auctions. If somebody doesn't want the property they landed on, they just don't want it and we move on.
Well like they said. It goes faster this way. Not only does every property get sold but everyone has a better chance of putting houses up. Try it
Playing with 4 plus people and everyone buys pretty much what ever they land on anyway?
How do you know you are german ?
You wonder how people ever not played by the proper rules.
Alberich LP the issue is that I keep hearing "you can do things at any time" but doesn't that mean that you can respond to someone landing on a square? Like if you see someone landing on Boardwalk in a game that you own park place as well, can you not respond by making a hotel and screwing someone?
The Murder Party Vote Khorne no, you'd have to do it before they roll.
Spoiler about end...
Wasn't it Ian's turn at the end and not Kathleen's?
As a Brit, the Names on this Board is really really weird
To be fair, theirs is the original.
So really, ours is the weird one.
Where's mayfair tho
Moondoox It's an american board, Mayfair is in the original London version
@@kc4390 The American board is the original, not the British one.
Need 6 players for that
Why did I watch this? I regret a little bit. got real grindy in the end
...so the prototypical game of Monopoly, then? Right - glad I read the comments before investing three hours - I'll play it in the background while doing something else, because it's LRR - heck, they make *Desert Bus* FUN, ffs ^_^
Of course Kathleen is the cat.
Shorter yes - but no Free Parking destroys one of the most fun aspects of the game.
Are you kidding me?
The Free Parking Cash rule is one of the worst things anyone has added to a board game. It serves no purpose other than to add more dumb luck to the game and make it go on even longer.
EightThreeEight
The sheer number of tables-turned moments Free Parking had provided (in conjunction with the Street Repairs card) has been one of the biggest highlights of the family board game experience. Lots of jaws dropping, lots of screaming, lots of smiles wiped clean off. Those memories are what family games are about, man - not just how to make your lines of code run more efficiently.
@@PurushaDesa I understand that, but I think there are plenty of games that can give you those moments without it just being down to luck.
EightThreeEight
Yeah I think that's a broader point though about how many popular board games rely on luck. (For me there's enough strategy too though.)
And to be honest dumb luck derailing well laid plans fits the original intended purpose of Monopoly as an excoriating critique of capitalism.
You have one Trinidadian fan at least, Jamaica is overrated lol
people who don't follow the monopoly rules annoy me cause I legitimately love this game but no one will play it because no one plays it correctly
Why would you turn down a weed sponsor? It's the cutting edge right now. Jump to the front of the line and be leaders.
Jeremiah Bachmann Because they wouldn't be able to advertise in most of America, for one.
They could lose their good favor with WOTC and their sponsorship with Card Kingdom and possibly Wyrmwood.
Only 37 veiws wow
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Shame it's not the London board
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