Lever Action Rifles: .30-30 vs .44 Magnum

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  • Опубликовано: 25 апр 2018
  • Paul pits a Marlin 30-30 rifle against a Marlin 44 magnum rifle. Which one will come out on top?
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  • @Owl566
    @Owl566 5 лет назад +1269

    Hickok45 shows me.
    Paul Harrell teaches me.

    • @erickyle5604
      @erickyle5604 4 года назад +94

      Hickok45 thinks every gun is a good gun.
      Paul proves why some guns are better then others in certain circumstances.

    • @fordrac1ng81
      @fordrac1ng81 4 года назад +25

      hickock is a fudd

    • @Owl566
      @Owl566 4 года назад +50

      fordrac1ng81 not everyone has to share the same beliefs or even to the same extent. He loves guns and exercises his right often. Probably does more for the purchase and use of guns than most people. Maybe even more than you? Not sure on that though, I’ll have to watch your 100’s of gun related videos 🤔🤔

    • @robbyritter4245
      @robbyritter4245 4 года назад +59

      I know this might piss off a lot of people (and don't care) but I can't stand to watch Hickok's 20+min. videos of him just showing off shooting. It's boring. Paul's videos can actually capture and hold my attention no matter how long his videos are.

    • @robbyritter4245
      @robbyritter4245 4 года назад +4

      @Rolie O'Leary You got that right, and I'm subscribed to Gun Jesus too😄

  • @ashleywoolnough4884
    @ashleywoolnough4884 4 года назад +245

    This video confirmed my suspicion that I need a 30-30 and a 44 magnum. Thanks Paul 👍🏻

    • @LIONTAMER3D
      @LIONTAMER3D 2 года назад +13

      only logical conclusion lol

    • @dunpit3925
      @dunpit3925 Год назад +2

      Lol yea but I’d rather have a revolver and a lever w long barrel

    • @telesniper2
      @telesniper2 Год назад +3

      @@dunpit3925 That doesn't solve the dilemma, because Magnum Research's BFR is available in .30-30

    • @ryanbrophy8814
      @ryanbrophy8814 5 месяцев назад

      I agree. I just ordered both.

  • @BallisticGrandpa
    @BallisticGrandpa 4 года назад +1677

    Easy.. The 30-30 is clearly better because I have one of those and I don't have a .44 magnum.

    • @jeffscuderi8662
      @jeffscuderi8662 4 года назад +31

      I have both 30 30 is better

    • @jimenagulla9081
      @jimenagulla9081 4 года назад +34

      I own both, overall 30-30 is better, if I was hunting in really thick cover, and didn't want the deer or black bear to go far I would use my 44mag.

    • @mrpotatoheadracing
      @mrpotatoheadracing 4 года назад +6

      @@jimenagulla9081 You ever try Barnes ammo in your 30-30?

    • @jimenagulla9081
      @jimenagulla9081 4 года назад +19

      @@mrpotatoheadracing No but I have used Hornady 160gr leverevolution, shot a nice 8 point buck, he only ran about 40yds, found the lead core under the skin in the off side, weighed 100grs. While some may consider shedding the core a failure, I dont, it was a quartering to shot, on the point of his shoulder, that bullet went through a lot of dense muscle. The leverevolution is a game changer for the 30-30, turns it into a 300yd cartridge, although I would never have an opportunity at that range where I hunt.it's accurate and powerful in my marlin 336BL.

    • @mrpotatoheadracing
      @mrpotatoheadracing 4 года назад +9

      @@jimenagulla9081 My next lever gun will be a 336, or maybe the Glenfield at the pawn shop, (same as Marlin 336, but old, probably 1960's.) My Winchester 94, (old also, serial number ID's it a 1901,) will need some drilling and threading in the side of the receiver to mount a side scope, and that old receiver isn't going to get touched with any machining.

  • @robertshelnutt5081
    @robertshelnutt5081 4 года назад +143

    Paul, your dedication is admirable. "Neither rain, nor hail, nor gloom of night . . . "

  • @Dsdcain
    @Dsdcain 6 лет назад +1370

    Be honest. Who else watches the whole video before leaving a comment? I do myself, just wondering. :D
    I felt relieved when the rain and hail started to fall. It lets me know this is a genuine Paul Harrell video. He is such a great teacher in these videos. I can't stress enough how refreshing his presentations are. No over the top tacticool BS, no "My opinion is a true fact" type crap. Just an awesome channel. Thanks for the vids Paul.

    • @georgejohnsmith
      @georgejohnsmith 6 лет назад +12

      It is usually me. I also wait with my like/dislike verdict until the end.

    • @hammerslammer3006
      @hammerslammer3006 6 лет назад +3

      Yeah i wait till the end

    • @mattmarzula
      @mattmarzula 6 лет назад +6

      I typically watch a gun video right up until it brings my brain to a screeching halt before commenting. Suffice it to say that I have only ever posted on Paul's after watching completely. This is my second time viewing as I type because I had to see the splash on the .44 Mag hitting low at 200 yards. Pretty consistent and just slipping under the target.

    • @steveo3213
      @steveo3213 6 лет назад +11

      I agree, but it's getting to the point where I want to know where he films - just so i will never move there. Holy % of rainy days batman ...

    • @jeyendeoso
      @jeyendeoso 6 лет назад +21

      I Applaud his his videos, he uses a very common way of presenting things, like a scientific paper almost.
      Introduction, methodology, experiments, data analysis and conclusion. Simple efficient and no frills.
      *edit: It's a common way of presenting things, but you dont see it very often in videos. video reviews tend to be very subjective.

  • @redlegfa8979
    @redlegfa8979 6 лет назад +183

    I think Paul's coat pockets open into an extra denominational space full of shooting gadgetry.

    • @danielmitchell6940
      @danielmitchell6940 5 лет назад +3

      I want a coat like Paul's

    • @danielmitchell6940
      @danielmitchell6940 5 лет назад +12

      His coat is better than Batman's utility belt

    • @prepperjonpnw6482
      @prepperjonpnw6482 5 лет назад +5

      Check out Scottevest. They have an assortment of vests, coats, jackets and other clothes for men and women. Their specialty is huge numbers of pockets.
      I have a coat from them that has 27 pockets! One is made to carry my iPad!
      I’m not affiliated with them in any way other than I own and really like their clothing. Definitely worth every dollar I spent on the items I own.

    • @prepperjonpnw6482
      @prepperjonpnw6482 5 лет назад +7

      Oh and by the way it’s an inter-dimensional space just sayin

  • @jerryreynolds8151
    @jerryreynolds8151 2 года назад +70

    I've had the 30-30, 44 & 357 lever action rifles for several years. All are great fun, especially the 357. But, for deer in the eastern US, 30-30 is hard to beat. Fast, maneuverable, quick follow up shots and perfect amount of power without excessive recoil or noise.

    • @Steven-gv1ke
      @Steven-gv1ke Год назад +3

      I would like to see him remove the 44 mag and replace it with a 454 Casull. I think the outcome on the power on paper would look very different. Further more, the 454 can shoot 45 long colt as well, which is about 1/3 the price of 30-30 ammo. Even 454 ammo is about the same price as the 30-30 ammo. Now the real magic here though is due to the shorter nature of the 454, you get increased ammo capacity. Also when you don't need all that power, you can shoot the significantly cheaper 45 LC. Also the 45 LC rounds are always naturally subsonic which will be significantly quieter on your ears. The reduced recoil allows for a more fun day at the range and is friendly to beginner shooters. Lastly if you buy a threaded barrel variant (there are quite a few now) of a lever action, you will pay big money for specialty 30-30 subsonic ammo, versus 45 LC being naturally subsonic. Plus you can get stupid heavy subsonic 45 LC loads like 405 grain bullets that even at subsonic levels will absolutely decimate any deer or hog. However if you were headed to Alaska, you can just load up a hot load of 454 from Buffalo Bore or Underwood and have a round that can put down a brown bear.

    • @telesniper2
      @telesniper2 Год назад

      @@Steven-gv1ke Big Horn Armory's Model 90 in .460 S&W can chamber .454 Casull if you want a little less power, and if you want even less it can chamber .45 LC.

    • @Prepare2Survive
      @Prepare2Survive 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, 30-30 win will get the job done, but I handload my own ammo and straight walled calibers like 44 mag are much easier to handload than any bottle neck calibers like 30-30 because you don't need to trim the brass or lube the brass before resizing it. Plus the 44 mag is a more efficient use of gun powder where I can get between 75 and 100 ft lbs muzzle energy for each grain of gun powder used. With 30-30 win I can only get between 45 and 55 ft lbs muzzle energy per grain of gun powder. That means 44 mag is more than 50% more efficient in terms of gun powder usage. Muzzle energies are still comparable for both calibers around 1700-2100 ft lbs depending on the projectile and gun powder used, but 44 magnum is achieving it's energy more efficiently and like I already mentioned 44 mag requires less work to handload.

    • @jerryreynolds8151
      @jerryreynolds8151 9 месяцев назад

      @Prepare2Survive the gains at the muzzle with a 44 rapidly recede after just a few yards down range. I truly love the 44, hunted all last season with my Marlin, but overall the 30-30 is superior in many ways.

    • @Prepare2Survive
      @Prepare2Survive 9 месяцев назад

      @@jerryreynolds8151 Okay, well lets see what the online hornady ballistics calculator says. With the 240 grain hornady XTP bullet you have a G1 BC of .205 loaded with 25.5 grains of lilgun powder from a 20" barrel that gives you 1917 fps velocity. With a zero range at 50yds that means at the muzzle you have 1958 ft lbs energy (fpe) and at 25 yds it's 1779 fpe, at 50yds it's 1615 fpe, at 75 yds it's 1464 fpe, at 100 yds it's 1326 fpe, at 125 yds it's 1201 fpe and at 150 yds it's 1088 fpe. So that means you lose 10% energy every 25yds. With 30-30 win using the 160 grain hornady FTX bullet that has a G1 BC of .330 and loaded with 30.5 grains win 748 powder from a 20" barrel you get 2157 fps velocity. That's 1653 fpe at the muzzle, 1562 fpe at 25yds, 1475 fpe at 50yds, 1392 fpe at 75yds, 1313 fpe at 100yds, 1238 fpe at 125 yds and 1166 fpe at 150 yds. That means 30-30 win using the very aerodynamic hornady FTX bullets loses 6% energy every 25 yds. You mean to tell me that mere 4% difference every 25yds actually matters when 44 magnum gives you 42% more energy per grain of gun powder used compared to 30-30 win and 44 magnum requires 3 times less work to handload?

  • @reedkinney8776
    @reedkinney8776 Год назад +7

    Paul has the right kind of voice, disposition, educator personality, as well as the knowledge, for making excellent presentations

  • @SteveOvsFidel
    @SteveOvsFidel 6 лет назад +94

    “In typical deer fashion”... awesome Paul!

  • @karlhoegle346
    @karlhoegle346 5 лет назад +205

    "Typical deer fashion, he's going to be naked..." I almost died laughing!

    • @That_Guy5575
      @That_Guy5575 4 года назад +8

      He missed the perfect chance to say “Buck Naked”! :D

    • @brettpierotte2954
      @brettpierotte2954 4 года назад +13

      That's why I don't let my kids hike alone in our nearby national park: naked deer everywhere.

    • @williamhawes7931
      @williamhawes7931 4 года назад +3

      I laughed, but they do have buckskin.

    • @yortukfenstruk
      @yortukfenstruk 3 года назад

      That's a little unfair to deer. For instance, under all those feathers, ducks are also naked.

    • @DannyB-cs9vx
      @DannyB-cs9vx 3 года назад +1

      The one's I seen had fur coats.

  • @TheLawless556
    @TheLawless556 4 года назад +90

    Great video, especially considering the weather! It might be a small thing to consider, but since .30-30 is considered rifle ammunition, and .44 Magnum is considered handgun ammunition by retailers, .30-30 might be a better choice for shooters under the age of 21. Thanks for the content.

    • @joshp2542
      @joshp2542 4 года назад +13

      Also in states like NY where you need a pistol permit to buy pistol ammo. Its ridiculous for pistol caliber carbine owners.

    • @RobKinneySouthpaw
      @RobKinneySouthpaw 4 года назад +11

      @@joshp2542 "Living on New Jersey or New York" would fall under one of those "circumstances under which you plan to use it" he mentioned. :-)

    • @trentrubenacker9718
      @trentrubenacker9718 3 года назад +1

      Or in states like Illinois where you can't used a cartridge with a necked case for deer hunting because they wanna limit the overshoot distance. (Moderate population density+moderate flatness+farmland broken up by thin lines of trees, obscuring sight more than they obscure bullets=random 30-06 rounds crossing the street and punching holes in people's walls all the time during deer season, apparently.)
      I use a .50 cal muzzle loader. 12 guage slugs are also popular. I'm pretty sure we're too lazy to track thing around here. Lol.

    • @nomad155
      @nomad155 2 года назад

      @@trentrubenacker9718 wish we could hunt em with rifles

    • @3asianassassin
      @3asianassassin 2 года назад +3

      @@nomad155 you still got 45 70 and other straight necked rifle cartridges, new ones were made to align with the new laws and stuff. Rather have to sneak closer to deer than damage someone or their property just to shoot deer with normal rifle ammo

  • @BERETTA9mmUSA
    @BERETTA9mmUSA 4 года назад +91

    Good video Paul! I watched the whole thing. I have a Henry 44 Magnum, and a Henry 357 Magnum Lever Action Rifles. I enjoy them tremendously. Thanks again Paul, keep up the great work. 🤗🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.

    • @ronaldwhittaker6327
      @ronaldwhittaker6327 3 года назад +3

      im a fan ,Paul is a good ell spoken commentator and instructor

    • @thatguy22441
      @thatguy22441 3 года назад +2

      Very nice. Those longer barrels give them the FPE of a high-powered rifle. Neither one would be half bad for a fighting gun in SHTF. Even without a handgun of the same caliber, a .357 or .44 rifle would be an excellent choice.
      I know Paul did a video on the 30-30, which would make a superb fighting gun. As with many full power rifle calibers, you can count on it for penetration. Plus, the flat nose (or hollow point) has a sectional density gives it a short neck and massive cavitation.

    • @SRScott-mj5wd
      @SRScott-mj5wd 3 года назад +1

      I have hunted with both and to me, clearly the .44 Magnum is way better for 90% of hunting I practice...that is shots under 100 yards. Had a 250 Pounds Big male Wild Boar drop in its track charging me at 10 yards from a top of a small hill...the .44 Remington 240 gr SP hit middle of the torso under its chin...exited the far left side of its hip loin...small pieces of bones sticking out from that exit wound. 30-30 is decent also but for Deer only if you ask me...Lol

  • @cowishere8222
    @cowishere8222 6 лет назад +194

    "In typical deer fashion he's naked" that cracked me up

    • @michaelanderson1859
      @michaelanderson1859 5 лет назад +4

      CowIsHere except for the deer that runs around in a ghillie suit or a hunter orange vest

    • @Wolverine33378
      @Wolverine33378 5 лет назад

      I love this guy

    • @filianablanxart8305
      @filianablanxart8305 4 года назад

      Huh . My usual saying is that he is always wearing a fur ( aka leather) coat .

  • @Corpsealot
    @Corpsealot 6 лет назад +317

    It's not a Paul Harrell video without inclement weather.

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl 6 лет назад +12

      Corpsealot That's Oregon for you..

    • @Jazzman-bj9fq
      @Jazzman-bj9fq 5 лет назад +13

      @Corpsealot, "If it ain't rainin', it ain't trainin'."

    • @michaelanderson1859
      @michaelanderson1859 5 лет назад +16

      I think he waits for bad weather forecasts to go to the range cause it will be less crowded🤣

    • @michaelanderson1859
      @michaelanderson1859 5 лет назад +15

      Strong chance of hail and mini tornadoes with random sharknadoes. Awesome. Good day for the range.
      Please excuse the sharks falling out of the sky. Bear with me😁

    • @Jazzman-bj9fq
      @Jazzman-bj9fq 5 лет назад +6

      @Corpsealot, the weather is not natural... It's just a manifestation of Super Saiyan Paul's physical presence. And btw, Paul MIGHT be a Sith Lord on top of that... I watched one of his vids and I swear I saw force lightning jump from his fingertips in one frame :-/

  • @bartonthom4166
    @bartonthom4166 5 лет назад +15

    I was impressed with the quality of your test. It gave me a better understanding of both the 30-30 and the .44 performance in a variety of test conditions.

  • @tristenwilliams1943
    @tristenwilliams1943 4 года назад +13

    One of the most unbiased and informative reviews I’ve ever seen. Amazing job, thank you!

  • @clukinvar
    @clukinvar 6 лет назад +104

    Thanks for making the 30-30 versus 44 Magnum video.

    • @georgejohnsmith
      @georgejohnsmith 6 лет назад +14

      Thanks for thanking the making of the .30-30 versus .44 Magnum video.

    • @crackedblock2264
      @crackedblock2264 5 лет назад +4

      @@dougmayberry9998 thanks for making the 30-30 versus 44 magnum video

    • @LightTackleEthusiast
      @LightTackleEthusiast 5 лет назад +3

      @@dougmayberry9998 Thanks for not thanking me while thanking him thanks

    • @LightTackleEthusiast
      @LightTackleEthusiast 5 лет назад +3

      @@dougmayberry9998 Thank you for thanking me for not thanking me earlier because you couldn't thank me for not commenting earlier than you very much i am thankful for your response

    • @JAFO.
      @JAFO. 5 лет назад

      @@LightTackleEthusiast Thank God they're done!
      - lol

  • @fabfrenchies1974
    @fabfrenchies1974 5 лет назад +192

    Paul, you put out some of the best unbiased information out there, and I for one appreciate that in our modern climate!

  • @andrewblakes1697
    @andrewblakes1697 3 года назад +10

    This guy could teach about most anything. Just thorough and awesome. Detailed and interesting.

  • @jimmyd6695
    @jimmyd6695 4 года назад +1

    Hi Paul. I really appreciate the time you spend making all your videos. You really go the extra mile regarding detail. You are very thorough. More people should be as detailed as you. Thanks again !!!!

  • @DG-sc1yu
    @DG-sc1yu 6 лет назад +395

    Sucks when people start hating on the 30-30 saying it is a dead round. It is still viable and lever action feels great.

    • @michaelanderson1859
      @michaelanderson1859 5 лет назад +33

      D G yes. Paul just proved it. And a lot of experienced hu terms seem to feel that a lot more deer have been taken with 30-30 than any other round. At typical tree stand distances 50-150 yards plenty effective

    • @davidoakley3256
      @davidoakley3256 5 лет назад +42

      Not just is it still viable, its better now than it ever was! Fact, the deer have not changed. They don't hear or see better than they did 100 years ago. They don't run faster, jump higher, or have stronger bodies. Bullet and propellant powder technology however, has advanced by leaps and bounds. Modern "premium" loadings in the 30WCF shoot flatter, faster, and penetrate deeper. Lets all thank Hornady for the fantastic FTX and GMX flex tip bullets for bringing the 30WCF back to the new generation of hunters.

    • @jonathantate8103
      @jonathantate8103 5 лет назад +7

      30-30 is not any worse than it ever was, but why would your average hunter buy one these days? There are a lot of high quality bolt action options that shoot a more capable round for longer distance in the same package.

    • @jonathantate8103
      @jonathantate8103 5 лет назад +28

      And notice that I said "your average hunter" not all of us just go climb up in a stand looking over a cutover. I bear hunt in some areas where a 30-30 is very handy because of the rough terrain, and the thick cover.

    • @13thvarebel16
      @13thvarebel16 5 лет назад +38

      Ballistically, .30-30 performs about the same as 7.62x39...only you can load it in tubular magazines and it's AMERICAN :)

  • @olliebarwise7264
    @olliebarwise7264 6 лет назад +160

    Im really happy with the quality of content you've been putting out lately, Paul! You've always had clear, concise (when necessary), and educational videos. Now that you seriously upgraded your camera quality the content REALLY shines. Keep up the great work!

  • @BuryTheBottleWithMe
    @BuryTheBottleWithMe 4 года назад +3

    I appreciate you making these videos despite bad weather and rain. It really speaks to the character of this channel. Thank you Paul.

  • @williamcarson5505
    @williamcarson5505 2 года назад +72

    This video is so well done. I have both a 30/30 and a mag and love them both. The .44 has all the stopping power in the world up close. I’ve yet to have a deer hop back up after the first shot. The 30/30 is similar but can reach out a little bit more.

    • @rayfordgibson7650
      @rayfordgibson7650 2 года назад +3

      What kind of loads in your experience are the best for .44 mag on deer and is that out of a rifle

    • @308dad8
      @308dad8 Год назад

      Depends on your definition of a little bit more.

    • @johnwallace7694
      @johnwallace7694 Год назад +1

      Especially with the 160 Grain FTX bullets , Or Hornaday LeverRevolution factory loads .

  • @HonestOutlawReviews
    @HonestOutlawReviews 6 лет назад +338

    Great video man, I have both calibers and I love them both for different reasons. I would love to see a meat target hit with a 50bmg some day, no reason I just want to see it.

    • @PaulHarrell
      @PaulHarrell  6 лет назад +284

      There's a guy who calls himself "Kentucky Ballistics" Who has a 50 BMG and I think he takes requests for video ideas. I'd like to see a meat target (a really big one) shot with a 50 cal. In the near future I'll do a video with meat targets vs. 12 ga slugs

    • @prepperjonpnw6482
      @prepperjonpnw6482 5 лет назад +9

      Paul Harrell YES!!!!

    • @waynevreeland3141
      @waynevreeland3141 5 лет назад +3

      @@PaulHarrell Both Foster slugs as well as Sabot slugs, please !!

    • @Harleylovinchelley1
      @Harleylovinchelley1 5 лет назад +11

      50 bmg on a meat target?
      Holy schmoly, It would have to be in slow motion because 2 milliseconds after impact there were be nothing to see.................LOL

    • @boomerisadog3899
      @boomerisadog3899 5 лет назад +9

      A friend of mine was in Iraq as an army ranger, he was a scout. He brought back video of insurgents getting hit with .50 bmg, it was not pretty.

  • @Tyrfingr
    @Tyrfingr 6 лет назад +68

    Nothing beats a Paul Harrel upload, with salty peanuts and beer on a friday afternoon coming home from work (Sweden)

    • @Stevarooni
      @Stevarooni 5 лет назад +5

      Your snacks may vary, but your enjoyment will not. :-)

    • @Magisktification
      @Magisktification 4 года назад +1

      Jag kan inget annat än att hålla med!

    • @Legitpenguins99
      @Legitpenguins99 4 года назад +1

      How difficult is it to own a firearm over there in Sweden? I know some places in Europe are pretty bad like the UK and I heard Poland also but some places like Switzerland are fairly easy

    • @Magisktification
      @Magisktification 4 года назад +1

      @@Legitpenguins99 UK is worse than Sweden for sure. But i dont know of any other European country that is. But i dobt know about all of them. Here in Sweden its best being a hunter. If your like me practice target shooting and wanna own some handguns you are in alot of headaches. To start your handgun license will only last 5 years and you have to be super active with it. They keep making it harder and harder. The police had everyone with old safes (better than most new ones) to change them out based upon their own thinking they had no law to back it up but the acted as if was. Costing people aloy of money gor nothing.
      Its a constant battle against authoritys. Im quite fed up with it. I just wanna own a few handguns and go to the range every now and then.

  • @philipajarapoo7675
    @philipajarapoo7675 3 года назад +2

    This video is honestly one of the best no bs, straight facts only videos I’ve seen so far. Thanks for this.

  • @gofusmoholl3462
    @gofusmoholl3462 2 года назад +8

    I love Paul’s dedication to his craft. Who else would go out in the rain and do what he does, post wonderful content.

    • @Inkawgneegrow
      @Inkawgneegrow Год назад

      It does look somewhat fun. If I had the space available to me I might do it whether I filmed it or not 😅

  • @buffalosoutdoors
    @buffalosoutdoors 6 лет назад +46

    Excellent presentation as always.

    • @BG-ww5lg
      @BG-ww5lg 6 лет назад +1

      Buffalo's Outdoors , great vids yourself buffalo.

  • @Gilbertmk2
    @Gilbertmk2 6 лет назад +72

    Awesome, 30-30 holds a soft spot in my heart since I have my grandfather's Winchester 94 in 30-30.

    • @prepperjonpnw6482
      @prepperjonpnw6482 5 лет назад +3

      I have the same in .44 Magnum Lever action lol. Love that gun

    • @servantapashia7724
      @servantapashia7724 5 лет назад +1

      Gilbert i have myn as well also m94 30-30 from 1973 great Rifle

    • @viperdemonz-jenkins
      @viperdemonz-jenkins 5 лет назад +4

      have my grandfathers 1976 marlin 30-30 great hunting rifle.

    • @thetruckguy1
      @thetruckguy1 4 года назад +1

      I"m a Grandfather and look forward to passing my over.

    • @MegaAppleshit
      @MegaAppleshit 4 года назад +1

      I have a Winchester 94 that i inherited from my great grandfather. It an awesome rifle.

  • @bullseye8268
    @bullseye8268 4 года назад +1

    Great video Paul! Very thorough and informative. You really covered all the bases. Well done and thank you!

  • @armandorjusino
    @armandorjusino 3 года назад

    This guys is teaching me so much stuff on RUclips than any other gun course I have taken, thank you very much for the superb content.

  • @jonh901271
    @jonh901271 6 лет назад +107

    Paul, the Chamber of Commerce is concerned your videos give the impression the weather there is always crappy!

    • @jedironin380
      @jedironin380 4 года назад +8

      I was almost expecting him to say, "What's the final result of this test? Well... I'm wet and I'm cold." ;)

  • @jakehansen3418
    @jakehansen3418 6 лет назад +322

    Can we see some more of you explaining famous police shootings like you did the Miami. Date shootout? I really enjoy those videos and your insight.

    • @Kratos_God_of_50_BMG
      @Kratos_God_of_50_BMG 6 лет назад +25

      LIke the North Hollywood Shootout?

    • @georgejohnsmith
      @georgejohnsmith 6 лет назад +22

      Paul said it several times: the Miami shootout was special for him, and he had something to say about it. It is not the case for other high profile incidents, and he is not planning to make another video like that.

    • @mikewysko2268
      @mikewysko2268 6 лет назад +29

      Disappointed to hear Paul isn't planning to make more police shoot out videos. The Miami shooting video was very informative.

    • @georgejohnsmith
      @georgejohnsmith 6 лет назад +5

      No doubt, it was.

    • @jakehansen3418
      @jakehansen3418 6 лет назад +4

      georgejohnsmith yah i know but hopefully we can get him to change his plans because i want his insight.

  • @bobbyboothe8964
    @bobbyboothe8964 2 года назад

    Great info I was looking for. Thanks again for the Great video. Sorry for the weather

  • @kerrymcdonaugh2437
    @kerrymcdonaugh2437 3 года назад +2

    This was the most informative comparison I have ever seen. Subscribed

  • @ironmikehallowween
    @ironmikehallowween 5 лет назад +18

    Both are great calibers. I have always liked the 44. It is tremendously versatile, with bullet weights from 165 to 340 Grains. Also, extremely different power levels are available, including the ability to use 44 special. So, I love the 44. The 30-30 was my first deer rifle, and to me, they are great too. They are better for anything over 125 yards or so, and have brought home the deer for decade after decade. I hope people understand that both of these calibers can do the job, and they can do it with style with the quick handling lever action rifle. Thanks for making this video.

  • @swampk9
    @swampk9 6 лет назад +175

    Paul Harrell doesn't get pneumonia, pneumonia gets Paul Harrell

    • @georgejohnsmith
      @georgejohnsmith 6 лет назад

      I don't know... It does not sound that funny in English.

    • @mmabagain
      @mmabagain 6 лет назад +9

      Kinda sounds like a Paul Harrell vs Chuck Norris joke is in there somewhere.

    • @trevorheadrick4966
      @trevorheadrick4966 5 лет назад +14

      Paul Harrell once went to The Virgin Islands. Now they are just called The Islands.

  • @jeffreyyoung2479
    @jeffreyyoung2479 3 года назад

    Thanks for posting these videos Paul. Your presentation is very easy to watch and your accent is just right for a shooting instructor.

  • @jamesslough6465
    @jamesslough6465 4 года назад

    Great video. Very informative for me. Thanks for posting!

  • @ammoalamo6485
    @ammoalamo6485 5 лет назад +127

    I love it when you turn to your imaginary friend with something like "Yes, I said 42 caliber."
    It cracks me up. Keep up the good work.

    • @WastelandSeven
      @WastelandSeven 5 лет назад +16

      Well, its impolite to not talk to Harvey when he's standing right next to you. LOL

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 4 года назад +4

      Actually it's just a whisker short of .43 caliber.

    • @jedironin380
      @jedironin380 4 года назад +2

      @@WastelandSeven Well played!

    • @bigjava100
      @bigjava100 4 года назад

      🤔 Imaginary, just when I thought I was talking to the same person on my left😳

    • @emanstorm2481
      @emanstorm2481 4 года назад +2

      @@exothermal.sprocket Only before it's compressed by the barrel to .42 caliber, thus causing it to become .42 prior to utilization upon target - so sayeth "Professor Paul" - lol

  • @TheKentuckyPatriot
    @TheKentuckyPatriot 6 лет назад +22

    My Grandfather was a huge Henry rifle fan. He had one chambered in .44mag and one in 30-30. Both great choices in my opinion for whitetail deer! :-D

  • @user-kj3sn1xx6f
    @user-kj3sn1xx6f 6 месяцев назад +5

    As a competent user of many calibers, I would like to say that you did a fantastic job on this on every viewpoint!

  • @AlexRodriguez-gw8xt
    @AlexRodriguez-gw8xt 2 года назад

    Great video thanks for making it!

  • @Kratos_God_of_50_BMG
    @Kratos_God_of_50_BMG 6 лет назад +19

    Both underestimated lever action rounds, yet both have their individual uses. Thanks for the presentation and the dedication to finish the video, despite the rain and hail! Despite the bias I have for my Marlin 1895 (45-70) my first rifle was a Winchester 30-30 and I know well how effective it can be!

  • @thetruckguy1
    @thetruckguy1 6 лет назад +71

    I will say one thing for Paul , Once he starts a video he doesn't stop for weather .

  • @davidhoeflein151
    @davidhoeflein151 4 года назад +1

    I really enjoy nearly all of Paul's videos. This one was quite fun to watch.

  • @darylreadman3596
    @darylreadman3596 4 года назад

    Thanks for being so dedicated Paul...very knowledgeable

  • @PivotXX
    @PivotXX 6 лет назад +106

    I'm supposed to be up in 6 hours for work, but this video takes priority, I think.

    • @georgejohnsmith
      @georgejohnsmith 6 лет назад +3

      That explains the amorphous mass that is your face.

    • @bradcampbell7253
      @bradcampbell7253 6 лет назад +1

      well if you got to get up in the middle of night to go pee in a few minutes good video out of the deal and learn something that you want to know about

    • @flightparamedic505
      @flightparamedic505 6 лет назад +3

      At this point other than running out of a burning building or tending to my children, Paul’s videos has extreme priority! Thanks again for an awesome video as always

    • @ssimon64
      @ssimon64 6 лет назад

      PivotXX Jeez! What time do you go to work?

    • @PivotXX
      @PivotXX 6 лет назад

      D. Jones
      Start at 11pm, finish at 7:30am

  • @jayzenitram9621
    @jayzenitram9621 6 лет назад +83

    Suffice it to say that getting hit with either round will ruin your afternoon.

    • @bunberrier
      @bunberrier 5 лет назад +9

      Yeah, you're getting your ticket punched either way.

    • @iDrive4fun93
      @iDrive4fun93 5 лет назад +2

      Especially with Leverevolutions. Those are just gnarly for the 30-30

  • @baddgoat85
    @baddgoat85 3 года назад +2

    This is one of the best comparison videos I've seen. Subscribed.

  • @comiketiger
    @comiketiger 3 года назад

    Great video Paul. I enjoy your work.

  • @TimHPop776
    @TimHPop776 5 лет назад +5

    Paul, this is my first video and I am seriously impressed. Well done.
    The block and multi layer test were excellent. Thank you.

  • @mattmarzula
    @mattmarzula 6 лет назад +13

    That leisure suit and wide crouching stance with the snubby .38SPL gets me going. Now I have to find the original video.

    • @utrak
      @utrak 5 лет назад +1

      I hope you've seen the one with the Spongebob pajama bottoms

  • @billychampy316
    @billychampy316 3 года назад +1

    Great test Paul. These information and results are very viable. Thank you for another awesome video.

  • @jamesc6363
    @jamesc6363 4 года назад +20

    I've owned both I like my 44 for close stuff and the extra capacity is great. I love reloading the 44 as well, there's just something great about it. I do like the 30/30 but if I want to shoot longer range I usually grab my bolt action in 308 instead of the 30/30. Great vid mate!

  • @billb1725
    @billb1725 6 лет назад +4

    Outstanding as always. Thorough and very informative. Please keep the vids coming.

  • @abemcbeard6290
    @abemcbeard6290 6 лет назад +5

    Another great video Paul thank you

  • @carliprofr
    @carliprofr 4 года назад

    I really just love your videos !!!! Thanks.

  • @marty9464
    @marty9464 3 года назад +1

    As always, a very instructive, fact based video. I like being able to count on this information to help guide my decision making since I have no experience with these types of firearms. Thanks Paul... Keep up the good work!

  • @specialperson170
    @specialperson170 5 лет назад +7

    i really appreciate your dedication to providing people with education not caring rain or shine you inform people thank you

  • @cheena6291
    @cheena6291 5 лет назад +15

    Even if I have no interest in the topic of the video, I still am entertained by your comparisons. Fantastic as always

  • @dalecarter923
    @dalecarter923 4 года назад +1

    As always, Paul you made a super great and informative video.

  • @joet3661
    @joet3661 2 года назад +6

    VERY informative. I would not have considered the 44 in the same class as the 30-30...until now. Also thanks for your dedication in braving what looked like very uncomfortable weather!

  • @connorgoodwin2216
    @connorgoodwin2216 6 лет назад +4

    This is an incredibly quality review my friend, very informative!

  • @northidahoguy5549
    @northidahoguy5549 6 лет назад +6

    Love the videos! Keep up the good work!

  • @mbm887
    @mbm887 5 лет назад +1

    I have enjoyed all of your videos. The most impressive subject is that you Stay on Point, and you are ready.

  • @bobmiglarese6865
    @bobmiglarese6865 3 года назад

    Another great video- thanks Paul

  • @wa1ufo
    @wa1ufo 5 лет назад +3

    Excellent job as always Paul!

  • @mikecubes1642
    @mikecubes1642 5 лет назад +86

    its best to own both guns

    • @andrewcamus4349
      @andrewcamus4349 4 года назад +2

      Yeah bro one rifle one pistol

    • @michaelfling7786
      @michaelfling7786 4 года назад +3

      Lol, best comment here! Concise, to the point, and most assuredly true!

  • @vic40171
    @vic40171 4 года назад

    Great video, a pleasure to watch ! Well done

  • @marcfalsetti9381
    @marcfalsetti9381 4 года назад +24

    In Michigan where I live, there is a line drawn horizontally thru the center of our State. South of that line only Shotguns and Straight Walled Rifle Cartridges are allowed due to population density. The .450 Bushmaster, .44 Magnum and .357 Magnum are examples of legal and accepted bullet types. North of that line is where 7mm-08, 30-06, 30-30 and the .243 Winchester can come into play. Being that most, if not all shots I would personally take in my preferred hunting spots either north or south of that line are 100 yards or less.... it only makes sense to have the universally accepted .44 Magnum.
    Thank You for this informative video.

    • @mikebetts2046
      @mikebetts2046 4 года назад +1

      I hear you. I live about six miles south of the line. Dang it.

    • @charliedee9276
      @charliedee9276 4 года назад +5

      As a Michigan hunter that lives below the line that is an excellent point. Not to mention I believe there are better quality chances of getting one in the below line area. I typically hunt the thumb on a friends private land, never come home with an unfilled tag. Another point I have observed. The Walmart Warriors seem to always head north, West Branch, Gaylord, etc. The further away I am from those fella's the better I feel.

    • @marcfalsetti9381
      @marcfalsetti9381 4 года назад

      @@charliedee9276
      Come across some rare Yahoo's in the Southern Lower also.

    • @charliedee9276
      @charliedee9276 4 года назад +3

      @@marcfalsetti9381 Oh yeah, that is why I hunt private land. You couldn't get on state land. Already have heard about 3 instances this season of people getting shot, by relatives! I could never understand how one can take a shot at something if they cannot even for sure know it is a deer!

    • @blacksmith44
      @blacksmith44 3 года назад

      .44 Magnum all the way for me:)

  • @wyominghorseman9172
    @wyominghorseman9172 5 лет назад +117

    Nothing fits in a saddle scabbard like a lever gun.

    • @nathanadrian7797
      @nathanadrian7797 4 года назад +10

      You got that right!!! A lever action is flatter and more comfortable under your leg!!

    • @sawyernorthrop4078
      @sawyernorthrop4078 4 года назад +1

      What about my trapdoor Springfield

    • @wyominghorseman9172
      @wyominghorseman9172 4 года назад +7

      @@sawyernorthrop4078 I'm sure they fit great. But it's hard to beat an 1894 assault rifle. LOL

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад +1

      @@wyominghorseman9172 an InRange fan?

    • @leshemby9430
      @leshemby9430 3 года назад

      I will take a lever gun in the truck also. It

  • @revolverguy651
    @revolverguy651 6 лет назад +18

    I'm a big fan of the 30-30 but a 44 magnum lever gun would work just as well where I hunt in the mountains. Plus my woods carry handgun is a 44 mag. Great video Paul.

  • @jamesrae5351
    @jamesrae5351 Год назад

    Great video as always.

  • @yvesf5355
    @yvesf5355 Год назад +1

    Love your Video's even the rain didn't stop him great Job Paul thanks

  • @peuimporte
    @peuimporte 6 лет назад +5

    "In typical deer fashion he's gonna be naked" I love the deadpan delivery.

  • @sdsardog
    @sdsardog 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks. I can see a lot of effort went into that test.

  • @floridasasquatch3554
    @floridasasquatch3554 3 года назад

    Great and very informational video Paul

  • @1911jeff
    @1911jeff 3 года назад

    Thank you Paul, as usual...FANTASTIC!!!

  • @beachboardfan9544
    @beachboardfan9544 6 лет назад +7

    I like the scoreboards behind you, its a nice touch 👍

  • @crazy8sdrums
    @crazy8sdrums 5 лет назад +5

    I love my Winchester Model 94, .30-30. It is so much fun to shoot! Although I knew from the start that it was quite powerful, learning how it compares to .44 mag was quite satisfying. Thank you for this excellent video Paul!

  • @ernestthompson891
    @ernestthompson891 4 года назад +46

    Paul, this is by far one of the very best comparison videos I have ever reviewed regarding the lever actions + ammo.
    I own four (4) Marlins, two (2) Winchesters and a Big Boy. All caliber-ed from 357 to 45-70. Obviously the other two are
    on full display here. Love the lever actions. Finally, I can recommend to friends and associates alike to take a look at your
    work and appreciate Americana lever actions at their best.
    FYI: My favorite, all around fun long arm is still, the 357. Speed, accuracy, stopping power. Ultra fast rechambering.
    Who can't appreciate Chuck Connors "The Rifleman" Right? Blast Away! (smile)
    Great work Paul. Thank you.

    • @rfdsdf1
      @rfdsdf1 4 года назад

      Hey mate im really considering getting a henry big boy, any advice?

    • @musket-hc1fc
      @musket-hc1fc 4 года назад +1

      The Rifleman's gun was a 44-40.

    • @mechghost5742
      @mechghost5742 4 года назад

      I had 3 levers - 2 Winchesters (30/30 and 44-40) and a Marlin (.35 whelan). I loved using them while walking in the bush. Also had a Lee Enfield no.4 mk1 (.303) and a BSA Monarch (30-06) for posting

    • @porkchopspapi5757
      @porkchopspapi5757 3 года назад

      @@mechghost5742 A lever gun in .35 Whelan? Woow! Tell us about that.

  • @nunya7319
    @nunya7319 3 года назад

    Another informative video. TY Paul.

  • @terrybruce5923
    @terrybruce5923 6 лет назад +18

    Paul, this is a great video (one of your best) and had relevance to me personally. I like my Marlin 30-30 for PA mountain hunting...seldom even see a deer clearly over 60 yards....so open sights for me. Oh and I especially appreciate you ignoring the damp cold weather to complete this project...not just anyone could do that. Best - Terry

    • @northidahoguy5549
      @northidahoguy5549 6 лет назад +4

      Terry Bruce I love my Marlin 336 .30-30 for the same reason. I do my hunting in mostly heavy timber here in north Idaho.

    • @prepperjonpnw6482
      @prepperjonpnw6482 5 лет назад +2

      I have a .44 Magnum Lever action that I use for mule deer here in Oregon. Where I hunt the forest is so thick you can’t see 200 yards let alone shoot something lol. Almost every shot you get is definitely well below 100 yards. Typically shots are 40-60 yards and there isn’t time to use a scope so it’s iron sights only. Now elk is completely different as those shots are almost never closer than 300 yards. For that I use a .308 Bolt Action with a scope.
      Out here we hunt for food not trophies which is reflected in our choice of rifles.
      Very plain and simple with off the shelf ammunition, nuttin fancy lol.

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks Paul! I have been hoping for this video :) It may well settle an argument or two :)

  • @berniestraight126
    @berniestraight126 3 года назад +1

    Very good content thanks Paul appreciate it

  • @guysevedz3581
    @guysevedz3581 4 года назад +6

    Paul shooting with the sound rain falling is my kind of ambience mood music

  • @g54b95
    @g54b95 3 года назад +5

    There's a saying I picked up in the Army..."If it ain't raining, we ain't training!" Good stuff, Paul. Takes me back to qualifying on my M-16 at Grafenwoehr in the middle of winter, 3rd ID.

  • @Icdezines
    @Icdezines 3 года назад

    This video was really professional man, thank you 😁.

  • @cerescorubi
    @cerescorubi 2 года назад

    Thanks for your advise. Always thoughtful. Admirtion for your compliance with the weather.

  • @mattfarrar8566
    @mattfarrar8566 5 лет назад +46

    3030 is nearly double the power of a .223. Only about 100lb/ft less than a 6.5 Creedmoor. Hardly a dead caliber.
    Plus Lever actions are awesome fun.

    • @jeffscuderi8662
      @jeffscuderi8662 4 года назад +1

      6.5 creedmor whole other animal 1000yrd target round great long range hunting round 30 30 cant compare

    • @daltonv5206
      @daltonv5206 4 года назад +1

      What 6.5 rounds are you looking at? Creedmoor is a faster round with similar bullet weights. They're not really that close. Both excellent deer rounds though!

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад +3

      .30-30 is pretty close to the heavy loads of 7.62x39, like the 154gr softpoints.
      I still prefer my sweet little Howa mini in 6.5 Grendel, thou.

    • @James28R
      @James28R 3 года назад

      according to pauls chrono results here. nowhere near double 223 you mentalist.

    • @leshemby9430
      @leshemby9430 3 года назад +2

      The only thing the 30-30 has going against it is people really not knowing what they are talking about. I don't guess there's anything on earth the 30-30 hasn't taken. But something gets said then repeated and to the novice believed and repeated. Anything under a 24x scope and 4000fps just won't kill a deer everyone should know this lol.

  • @sgtbill946
    @sgtbill946 Год назад +12

    Paul, I know this is an older video, but I just have gotten the opportunity to purchase a new hunting rifle and am looking at the Henrys. I have always wanted one and my previous hunting rifle was a lever action Savage Arms, so I wanted to stay with what I was comfortable with. I could not decide between the 44Rem, the 45 LC or the 30-30. This video was super enlightening and I have now made the decision to go with the 30-30. Thanks for your dedication to the firearms world and the work you do!!!

  • @saltwaterwalt
    @saltwaterwalt 4 года назад +2

    Definitely one of the better comparison videos I've seen. Great job Paul. I own one of each of these rifles and have found them both good whitetail rifles for heavy woods where the shot is under 100 yards.

  • @furyofthenorthman600
    @furyofthenorthman600 4 года назад

    As always, great video.

  • @bobnation7822
    @bobnation7822 6 лет назад +5

    Well, Paul, as always that was a fun Vid! Love the fact your giving hunters their due.

  • @TheNewBowunter
    @TheNewBowunter 6 лет назад +19

    Great Video Paul, There is one thing I would like to point out here. The 30-30 will produce Hydro-static shock on living tissue that the .44 cant really do because of the velocity difference. I know this cant be tested without shooting live animals. In my experience anything over 2k velocity is just devastating on live tissue.

    • @casualobserver3145
      @casualobserver3145 4 года назад +1

      That’s exactly what the bullet design people (Johann Boden & Chris Laack) at Federal & Speer say. In the 2.2K range the damage is exponentially more devastating. So being limited by velocity they’re devoting time & resources to bettering pistol caliber bullet design.
      ruclips.net/video/T6kUvi72s0Y/видео.html

  • @mick-jolly
    @mick-jolly 4 года назад

    Always insightful! Thank you Paul.

  • @txaggie1014
    @txaggie1014 4 года назад

    Great video Paul. Keep up the good work !

  • @elijahp.3720
    @elijahp.3720 6 лет назад +39

    Great intro!