You are a very cool guy Christo. This discovery is incredibly fascinating to me. What a journey you have allowed yourself to discover. That's the key...being open minded and letting the facts be the facts regardless of how they go against the established norms. I'm an avid tennis player and in my late 40's, due to shoulder pain, I had to find a different way to get power. It turns out that using your shoulder for power is not only a way to injure it, but it robs you of power. I found "The Archer" method which immediately removed the pain and added 10-20 MPHs! I wish I had known this when I was a junior player...the trophy room would have needed to be much bigger!
christo, so i am left handed but golf right and have been golfing for 40+ years. my natural tendency is to pull with the left shoulder and side to do the down swing and i always learned that that produces an ott move and is no good so all my golfing life i've been fighting to swing inside and struggle. i always felt if i could get my pull with the left side to work for me it might be more natural. i then watched your video on the ott miracle swing and went out to hit balls in my yard and from the very first swing it worked i mean like instantly and nothing to think about. i just swing back with the left shoulder and the arms and club go inside then pull down with the left side which kinda makes for the ott and then bada-bing i nailed the shot. i'm gonna order the video now, thnx so much for the help.
My two cents...taking the club inside on the backswing facilitates a bigger turn and can prevent the clubbed path on the downswing from being outside-in. Remember the "X-Factor" swing? If you were not supple enough you could not swing from the inside. The OTT swing allows anyone to have the correct clubbed path on the downswing.
Looking at my younger swings I had a ott swing and that's why I was so good a when I had a 2 year break I forgot it and I started swinging with ott again and I instantly noticed a difference
christo, i guess my concept about the golfswing and the wieght shift has been wrong all along. what you're saying maybe it's a more instinctive move as you showed when throwing a ball, gotta try it out, thnx.
I'm glad this works for people but most of those old swings you show don't look like ott to me and neither does your swing. Also we don't know what shot they are hitting. If someone is hitting a fade it will look like ott. Maybe it feels ott.
At last. The comments that people don't see you coming over the top when you swing makes total sense to me. I've watched till I'm dizzy but I can't see your downswing plane being above your back swing plane! If anything both swings show little if any difference to me. I'm 79 and killing what's left of my body by over swinging till I hurt all over.
@@MiracleSwingExperience that was a good and clever answer and reveals you as a thinking man. The principle of golf is the “line of compression “ ( Homer Kelly TGM ). So every aspect of the swing is ordered to produce and reproduce the line of compression. Simply the swing goal is compress the ball along a line such they the ball will be delivered reasonably to the intended target. That which you would be “over the top “ of is the swing plane which is employed
That which you would be over the top of is the swing plane which the golfer would employ to deliver effectively the ball to target. You don’t ever want to be OVER the plane. This would produce a pull hook ( if the face is closed ; or sweeping slice if open ). What you have identified is a plane shift possibly from an elbow plane to a turned shoulder plane. But never over the top… Anyway you are performing excellent work. One day I will come visit and work through all these concepts with you. For fun. All the best FJN. KEEP UP YOUR GREAT WORK.
One more thing : so much for all that stupid talk about shallowing which by the way is a function of inertia and NEVER a twisting of the forearm. Cheers F
An OTT swing requires a exaggerated inside takeaway and a top of backswing position which is '1940s/50' flat'...this is marketing BS and is, probably, unsuitable for, and damaging for, the vast percentage of learning golfers
I've heard him comment before that his swing flaw is too far inside out so OTT feel helps correct that. I agree with you. The avg Am has the opposite problem.
I disagree I started watching Jack and rolling the ankles, I usually come over the top anyways I added 10-25 yards depending on the club and swing easier, and my consistency has improved this in about 10 days
Happy thanksgiving mate ! Love the passion in your golf journey (and that old footage of Roger Dunn)
You are a very cool guy Christo. This discovery is incredibly fascinating to me. What a journey you have allowed yourself to discover. That's the key...being open minded and letting the facts be the facts regardless of how they go against the established norms. I'm an avid tennis player and in my late 40's, due to shoulder pain, I had to find a different way to get power. It turns out that using your shoulder for power is not only a way to injure it, but it robs you of power. I found "The Archer" method which immediately removed the pain and added 10-20 MPHs! I wish I had known this when I was a junior player...the trophy room would have needed to be much bigger!
Love your breakdowns of classic ott swings. Have you considered Calvin Peete or Gene Littler?
Thank you! I have discussed Calvin Peete but not from the OTT perspective. I have always loved Gene Littler's swing and he deserves a video for sure!!
@@MiracleSwingExperience awesome 😄👊🏾
christo, so i am left handed but golf right and have been golfing for 40+ years. my natural tendency is to pull with the left shoulder and side to do the down swing and i always learned that that produces an ott move and is no good so all my golfing life i've been fighting to swing inside and struggle. i always felt if i could get my pull with the left side to work for me it might be more natural. i then watched your video on the ott miracle swing and went out to hit balls in my yard and from the very first swing it worked i mean like instantly and nothing to think about. i just swing back with the left shoulder and the arms and club go inside then pull down with the left side which kinda makes for the ott and then bada-bing i nailed the shot. i'm gonna order the video now, thnx so much for the help.
You know who else was left handed but played right......hogan
@@nepheshr290 i think i read in bobby jones book that he was naturally left handed but golfed right as well as johnny miller.
@@steveperry1344 speith might be as well
My two cents...taking the club inside on the backswing facilitates a bigger turn and can prevent the clubbed path on the downswing from being outside-in. Remember the "X-Factor" swing? If you were not supple enough you could not swing from the inside. The OTT swing allows anyone to have the correct clubbed path on the downswing.
Super advice my friend. Happy Thanksgiving to u and ur family
Right on, Joe. Happy Thanksgiving!
Looking at my younger swings I had a ott swing and that's why I was so good a when I had a 2 year break I forgot it and I started swinging with ott again and I instantly noticed a difference
christo, i guess my concept about the golfswing and the wieght shift has been wrong all along. what you're saying maybe it's a more instinctive move as you showed when throwing a ball, gotta try it out, thnx.
Not available on MSE for paid members?
The Over the Top Miracle Swing is already on MSE TV for all members to view, Gregg. You've seen it haven't you?
@@MiracleSwingExperience yes. I paid for it separately prior to getting subscription for MSE TV. So where is the location of the video on MSE TV?
@@SavedInANanosecond. It's in the Over the Top Miracle Swing section.
Are you still using the Martin Ayers swing from 10+ years ago ?
I'm glad this works for people but most of those old swings you show don't look like ott to me and neither does your swing. Also we don't know what shot they are hitting. If someone is hitting a fade it will look like ott. Maybe it feels ott.
Yeah, most certainly not over the top... not sure why he thinks it is
Did you ever watch Bobby Jones swing? Sam Snead? OTT
@bradg4562 nope, it's not. It's not over the top just because you take the club inside the plane. It's on plane going through.
At last. The comments that people don't see you coming over the top when you swing makes total sense to me. I've watched till I'm dizzy but I can't see your downswing plane being above your back swing plane! If anything both swings show little if any difference to me. I'm 79 and killing what's left of my body by over swinging till I hurt all over.
Hogan never finished with space between his legs like Cristo does
Howdy Christo
Do you know what the principle of golf is?
And
Over the top of what?
This riddle wrapped in a conundrum is indispensable!
Let me know
I'm not sure what your answer will be but I'll take a stab at it!
The principle of golf is to applied leverage.
Over the Top of the backswing plane.
@@MiracleSwingExperience that was a good and clever answer and reveals you as a thinking man.
The principle of golf is the “line of compression “ ( Homer Kelly TGM ). So every aspect of the swing is ordered to produce and reproduce the line of compression. Simply the swing goal is compress the ball along a line such they the ball will be delivered reasonably to the intended target.
That which you would be “over the top “ of is the swing plane which is employed
That which you would be over the top of is the swing plane which the golfer would employ to deliver effectively the ball to target. You don’t ever want to be OVER the plane. This would produce a pull hook ( if the face is closed ; or sweeping slice if open ).
What you have identified is a plane shift possibly from an elbow plane to a turned shoulder plane. But never over the top…
Anyway you are performing excellent work. One day I will come visit and work through all these concepts with you. For fun.
All the best FJN.
KEEP UP YOUR GREAT WORK.
One more thing : so much for all that stupid talk about shallowing which by the way is a function of inertia and NEVER a twisting of the forearm. Cheers F
it is all money....
Again, you do not apparently understand what OTT is. You are not even close.
Thanks MV, what is your understanding of it?
An OTT swing requires a exaggerated inside takeaway and a top of backswing position which is '1940s/50' flat'...this is marketing BS and is, probably, unsuitable for, and damaging for, the vast percentage of learning golfers
I've heard him comment before that his swing flaw is too far inside out so OTT feel helps correct that.
I agree with you. The avg Am has the opposite problem.
I disagree I started watching Jack and rolling the ankles, I usually come over the top anyways I added 10-25 yards depending on the club and swing easier, and my consistency has improved this in about 10 days
Blasphemy
You are also NOT a professional
Thanks for sharing MV, we appreciate your opinion.