Gives me courage to be reminded that others are also lacking in prayer. We ALL need to learn the lesson of the persistent widow in Luke 18. We ALL need to pray more.
Thank you so much Pastor Asscherick for the weight of the truth in these timely messages. I think like it was said of Pastor Moody, that the Holy Spirit of God- the third person of the Godhead- has a "monopoly" on you to His glory. Please remain humble and submissive to His leadings for the sake of the elect, especially in these last days of the church's troubling history.
Ephesians 1:13 In Him you also after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who[d] is the [e]guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
AMEN!!! Glory be to Jesus Christ ♡ All thru the Bible from the beginning to end shows proof of the HOLY DEITY = 3 HOLY BEINGS ~ Before Jesus was born He was a Spirit: God the Father is a Spirit: & the 3rd person or Holy Being: THE HOLY SPIRIT is also a Spirit: What I cannot understand is why so many people even Christians have a problem with
no, I don't and I don't want to get into a discussion, because I have the feeling that you just want to discuss and not learn the truth and therefore I will spare my time. The pharasees and scribes of old also liked discussions, but Jesus does not want us to discuss because of the sake of discussion. If you want to learn how it is right, o.k. but I'm not going to discuss for the sake of discussion.
Does Jesus refer to the Holy Spirit as -He, or is, He, a requirement of grammar being translated from a word that is in the neuter gender...just a question, as spirit is from the word - wind, which is neuter in gender from pneuma
EGW said that the Holy Spirit IS the third member of the Godhead read this. If God said ETERNAL GODHEAD- meaning both of them three are from eternity....... If Jesus was literally begotten and has a beginning then he cannot be apart of ETERNAL GODHEAD because the GODHEAD has no beginning and ending. But we read that Jesus is part of ETERNAL GODHEAD............. We affirmed that the Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Ghost is uncreated, the Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and the Holy Ghost is eternal, the Father is Almighty, the Son is Almighty, and the Holy Ghost is Almighty, the whole THREE PERSONS are coeternal and coequal. What is Heavenly Trio? (Series B #7 p.62) Heavenly Trio- means that there are Three distinct persons or beings in a Godhead or Three Gods. The eternal Godhead- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. UL148 A message of WARNING who preach the two dignitaries powers or teaching Threeness, Twoness, and Oneness they are both under the control of SPIRITUALISM!!! When men feel competent to pronounce judgement and condemn the Holy Spirit, they do a work for themselves which difficult to counteract. The whole head becomes weak, and the discerment so weak that it is apt to judge unrighteously. 4MR358 You are baptized in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...You are born unto God, and you stand under the sanction and the power of the THREE HOLIEST BEINGS IN HEAVEN, who are able to keep you from falling. 7MR267. The words of Christ teach that we should regard ourselves as inseparably bound to our Father in heaven. Whatever our position, we are dependent upon God, who holds all destinies in His hands. He has appointed us our work, and has endowed us with faculties and means for that work. So long as we surrender the will to God, and trust in His strength and wisdom, we shall be guided in safe paths, to fulfill our appointed part in His great plan.But the one who depends upon his own wisdom and power is separating himself from God.Instead of working in unison with Christ, he is fulfilling the purpose of the enemy of God and man. DA 209.2 The light of truth is constantly shining, but many men and women comprehend it not, and why? Because selfishness, egotism, pride blind their spiritual eyesight. Standing between them and the true light is the idol of their opinion. MR#77 p.6 Jeremiah 13:15-17 The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, the THREE HOLY DIGNITARIES OF HEAVEN have declared that they will strengthen men to overcome the power of darkness. 5BC 1110. Warning: Just before us is the closing struggle of the great controversy when with all power and signs and lying wonders and with all decievableness of unrighteousness Satan is to work to misrepresent the character of God, that he may seduce, it were possible, even the elect. 5T746 We have been brought together as a school and we need to realize that the HOLY SPIRIT, who is as much as a PERSON AS GOD IS A PERSON is walking through these grounds. 7MR299 (Evangelism 616) Baptism is a most solemn ceremony. When men and women, truly converted are baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, these THREE REPRESENTATIVES OF HEAVENLY AUTHORITY behold the scene and accepted the vows made by human agents to walk henceforth in newness of life. 6MR29 Those who reject the SPIRIT OF TRUTH place themselves under the control of a spirit that opposed to the word and work of God. For a time, they may continue to teach some phases of truth, but their refusal to accept all the light that God sends will after a time place them where they will do the work of a false watchman...There will always be those who are seeking for something new, and who stretch and strain the Word of God to make it SUPPORT their IDEAS AND THEORIES. MR723 A spurious light will be accepted in the place of truth by some who feel called upon to be expositors of the Scriptures, because of their calling or position. 11MR89 The Godhead and was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave THEMSELVES to the working out of the plan of redemption. CH222 We cannot render to God supreme love and honor, if we do not recognize the HOLY SPIRIT which the Lord sends. MR #599-16 (1900) The eternal Godhead- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. CH222 The Father is God (ELI)- First Person in the Godhead Jesus (the Son)- is God (ELOHA)- Second Person in the Godhead Holy Spirit is God (NESHEMAH)- the Third Person in the Godhead What is Heavenly Trio? Heavenly Trio means that there are three distinct persons or beings Godhead or three Gods. Bible and SOP supported. CONTRA-OPPOSED- We are warned! A spurious light will be accepted in the place of truth' read the following: How about the belief of twoness (Binity) that only the Father and Son composed of the Godhead? Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. SEE also 1John 5:8. In the great closing work we shall meet with perplexities that we know not how to deal with, but let us not FORGET that the THREE GREAT POWERS OF HEAVEN are working, that a divine hand is on the wheel, and that God will bring His purposes to pass."- EV.65 (1902). see also TM300. Eze.1:15-21 As the wheel-like complications were under the guidance of the hand beneath the wings of the cherubim, so the complicated play of human events is under divine control. Amidst the strife and tumult of nations, He that sitteth above the cherubim still guides the affairs of the earth."- Ed.178 (1903). How about a belief that Holy Spirit is not the Third Person of the Godhead? Bible and SOP supported rebuked and condemned.
Gregory Paul + How can three of them be both? How is it that them three are BOTH? You will go as far as twisting an ordinary functional grammatical word just to prove falsehood.....what am I even saying?...... falsehood will only beget falsehood to keep it going
What Pr. Asscherick didn't realize that Sis. White and our pioneers weren't trinitarians. Trinity came to SDA church after the prophetess died, but she gave us warning; "Those who seek to remove the OLD LANDMARKS are not holding fast; they are not remembering how they have received and heard. Those who try to bring in theories that would remove THE PILLARS OF OUR FAITH concerning the SANCTUARY or concerning THE PERSONALITY OF GOD OR OF CHRIST, are working as blind men." (MR 760 9.5) 1905. In context, when Sis. White talked about the third person which is the Holy Spirit, she meant the divine life of Jesus Himself, not someone else! "Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the COMFORTER, who was to take his place THIS COMFORTER IS THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SOUL OF HIS LIFE, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin. (RH, May 19, 1904 par.1) Jesus is our Comforter (19MR 297.3) "I will not leave you comfortless; I will come to you." The divine Spirit that the world's Redeemer promised to send, is the PRESENCE AND POWER OF GOD. (ST, November 23, 1891 par. 1) If we study our church history, we would know this is a false theology, as it's in controversy to what our pioneers and the Bible taught. But as foretold by Sis. White, the omega apostasy would soon come and be received by many....God have mercy on us, it's being fulfilled in our very own eyes!
Escorpion Venenoso You are correct, when you understood that EGW was speaking about Jesus' own life; His omnipresence power called the Holy Spirit aka the comforter (I've given you lots of quotes, yet you totally ignore it) That book, the Evangelism is from the Devil; it's a compilation with added titles, and they deceitfully chopped what they don't want you to read! They put a PERIOD to a COMMA and deleted the rest of the statement. Much like what they did to most of Bible translations. Your statement above is from a talk given at the Avondale School on April 15, 1899. This talk was never published during Ellen White’s lifetime.Part of it was first released in 1946 with the publication of Evangelism. A further part of it was published in 1990 in Manuscript Releases, vol. 7, p. 299, and then in 1994 more of it was released in Sermons and Talks, vol. 2, pp. 136-139. The entire talk has not yet been published, but from Sermons and Talks we know that the above quotation is not the full sentence. The point that Sister White was making is seen in the context of the whole statement: "We have been brought together as a school, and we need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through these grounds, unseen by human eyes; that the Lord God is our Keeper and Helper. He hears every word we utter and knows every thought of the mind." (Sermon and Talks, vol. 2, pp. 136, 137). Ellen White was making it clear that she was not advocating that the Holy Spirit was merely some impersonal force, but the person of “the Lord God” who was constantly with them watching and listening to everything that happened. If she was trying to teach the Trinity, she failed, for the school did not adopt the Trinity doctrine and the great “weight of evidence” from her writings is clearly on the non-trinitarian side of the issue. Since you refuse to believe that EGW never taught the Trinity doctrine, can you explain why she calls Jesus as the Comforter/the Holy Spirit MANY TIMES? Whose son was Jesus when he was born in Jerusalem?
James Culver If you read John 14 with prayers and without a preconceived mind, it'll make sense, perfectly! John 14:16: "I will pray the Father (talking to His disciples), and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may ABIDE with you forever." John 14:17: The Comforter is also called The Spirit of Truth (Who is the spirit of truth? Please read the prior verse John 14:6 He explained He is the way, THE TRUTH and the life, NO MAN commeth unto the Father BUT BY ME. So, He was NOT talking about someone else!). The world can not receive Him because it seeth Him not; but ye (the disciples) KNOW Him; for he DWELLETH with them, and shall be IN them. Did you catch that? If Jesus was talking about someone else whom His disciples know not, He wouldn't say that they know Him and better yet, He dwelleth with them! All these He spoke in the context of NO MAN come to the Father but ONLY by Himself (John 14:6). John 14:18: "I will NOT leave you comfortless; I WILL COME to you." In other words; He is the promised comforter to come! He indeed came back. NOT in a visible/flesh form, but in a spiritual form tho' invisible to His disciples, just as much as a person as Himself. This spirit proceedeth from the Father (John 15:26). It's the very life/character of the Father Himself who lives in Jesus and makes them ONE (John 14:10). The Father anointed His only begotten Son with His own life (John 1:32) and the Son becomes the ONLY channel/mediator of God's Spirit to live in us enable us to worship Him in spirit and in truth (John 4:24).
+Ella Eryanthy EGW said that the Holy Spirit IS the third member of the Godhead read this. If God said ETERNAL GODHEAD- meaning both of them three are from eternity....... If Jesus was literally begotten and has a beginning then he cannot be apart of ETERNAL GODHEAD because the GODHEAD has no beginning and ending. But we read that Jesus is part of ETERNAL GODHEAD............. We affirmed that the Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Ghost is uncreated, the Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and the Holy Ghost is eternal, the Father is Almighty, the Son is Almighty, and the Holy Ghost is Almighty, the whole THREE PERSONS are coeternal and coequal. What is Heavenly Trio? (Series B #7 p.62) Heavenly Trio- means that there are Three distinct persons or beings in a Godhead or Three Gods. The eternal Godhead- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. UL148 A message of WARNING who preach the two dignitaries powers or teaching Threeness, Twoness, and Oneness they are both under the control of SPIRITUALISM!!! When men feel competent to pronounce judgement and condemn the Holy Spirit, they do a work for themselves which difficult to counteract. The whole head becomes weak, and the discerment so weak that it is apt to judge unrighteously. 4MR358 You are baptized in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...You are born unto God, and you stand under the sanction and the power of the THREE HOLIEST BEINGS IN HEAVEN, who are able to keep you from falling. 7MR267. The words of Christ teach that we should regard ourselves as inseparably bound to our Father in heaven. Whatever our position, we are dependent upon God, who holds all destinies in His hands. He has appointed us our work, and has endowed us with faculties and means for that work. So long as we surrender the will to God, and trust in His strength and wisdom, we shall be guided in safe paths, to fulfill our appointed part in His great plan.But the one who depends upon his own wisdom and power is separating himself from God.Instead of working in unison with Christ, he is fulfilling the purpose of the enemy of God and man. DA 209.2 The light of truth is constantly shining, but many men and women comprehend it not, and why? Because selfishness, egotism, pride blind their spiritual eyesight. Standing between them and the true light is the idol of their opinion. MR#77 p.6 Jeremiah 13:15-17 The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, the THREE HOLY DIGNITARIES OF HEAVEN have declared that they will strengthen men to overcome the power of darkness. 5BC 1110. Warning: Just before us is the closing struggle of the great controversy when with all power and signs and lying wonders and with all decievableness of unrighteousness Satan is to work to misrepresent the character of God, that he may seduce, it were possible, even the elect. 5T746 We have been brought together as a school and we need to realize that the HOLY SPIRIT, who is as much as a PERSON AS GOD IS A PERSON is walking through these grounds. 7MR299 (Evangelism 616) Baptism is a most solemn ceremony. When men and women, truly converted are baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, these THREE REPRESENTATIVES OF HEAVENLY AUTHORITY behold the scene and accepted the vows made by human agents to walk henceforth in newness of life. 6MR29 Those who reject the SPIRIT OF TRUTH place themselves under the control of a spirit that opposed to the word and work of God. For a time, they may continue to teach some phases of truth, but their refusal to accept all the light that God sends will after a time place them where they will do the work of a false watchman...There will always be those who are seeking for something new, and who stretch and strain the Word of God to make it SUPPORT their IDEAS AND THEORIES. MR723 A spurious light will be accepted in the place of truth by some who feel called upon to be expositors of the Scriptures, because of their calling or position. 11MR89 The Godhead and was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave THEMSELVES to the working out of the plan of redemption. CH222 We cannot render to God supreme love and honor, if we do not recognize the HOLY SPIRIT which the Lord sends. MR #599-16 (1900) The eternal Godhead- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. CH222 The Father is God (ELI)- First Person in the Godhead Jesus (the Son)- is God (ELOHA)- Second Person in the Godhead Holy Spirit is God (NESHEMAH)- the Third Person in the Godhead What is Heavenly Trio? Heavenly Trio means that there are three distinct persons or beings Godhead or three Gods. Bible and SOP supported. CONTRA-OPPOSED- We are warned! A spurious light will be accepted in the place of truth' read the following: How about the belief of twoness (Binity) that only the Father and Son composed of the Godhead? Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. SEE also 1John 5:8. In the great closing work we shall meet with perplexities that we know not how to deal with, but let us not FORGET that the THREE GREAT POWERS OF HEAVEN are working, that a divine hand is on the wheel, and that God will bring His purposes to pass."- EV.65 (1902). see also TM300. Eze.1:15-21 As the wheel-like complications were under the guidance of the hand beneath the wings of the cherubim, so the complicated play of human events is under divine control. Amidst the strife and tumult of nations, He that sitteth above the cherubim still guides the affairs of the earth."- Ed.178 (1903). How about a belief that Holy Spirit is not the Third Person of the Godhead? Bible and SOP supported rebuked and condemned.
Gregory Paul Sis. White died in 1915, thus ALL her writings were written under the original NON trinity doctrine. History fact; Mr. Leroy Froom and friends inserted the word Trinity for the first time in the year book without even being voted on. In 1980, GC voted it and a creed was created called the 27 fundamental beliefs, and it keeps being modified. That was a history fact. My question is; "Is it possible that Sis. White was teaching the Trinity while the whole church rejected it?" Please answer.... Meanwhile, let Sis. White answer for herself what she meant with her writing in UL148: "His commission....baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (UL 148.3) Here's another writing of her: "They were to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Christ's NAME was to be their WATCHWORD, their badge of distinction, their bond of union, the AUTHORITY for their course of action....Nothing was to be recognized in His kingdom that did not bear HIS NAME and superscription.' (AA 28.2) You see, she wasn't teaching there are 3 INDIVIDUALS. You're reading things not written, friend. Rather, we are to baptize under the AUTHORITY of Christ's name ALONE as Christ had said; I'm the way to the Father, no other way. Christ also said we pray TO the Father, IN the name of the Jesus for the Holy Spirit, as the third person in the context of PERSONALITY/Character NOT in the context of "another individual" different than the Father and Son. Prove? She wrote: "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations." "Go to the farthest bounds of the habitable globe, and know that wherever you go, MY PRESENCE will attend you." No more valuable legacy could He have left them than the promise of HIS ABIDING PRESENCE." (1NL 62.4) Notice, EGW clearly taught that Christ comes back to His disciples as their Comforter. This is what the third person means. His Divine life...called the Holy Spirit. NOT a different individual as the Trinity teaches! "Christ comes as a Comforter to all who believe." (8MR 57.3)
Gives me courage to be reminded that others are also lacking in prayer.
We ALL need to learn the lesson of the persistent widow in Luke 18. We ALL need to pray more.
Thank you so much Pastor Asscherick for the weight of the truth in these timely messages. I think like it was said of Pastor Moody, that the Holy Spirit of God- the third person of the Godhead- has a "monopoly" on you to His glory. Please remain humble and submissive to His leadings for the sake of the elect, especially in these last days of the church's troubling history.
Praise God, for his Holy Spirit .
I see the biblical point
The truth will RISE.
I SAY LIKE ISAIAH, ARISE AND SHINE
FOR LIGHT HAS COME.
Ur person is the part that goes back to God when a person dies
Ephesians 1:13 In Him you also after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who[d] is the [e]guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
AMEN!!! Glory be to Jesus Christ ♡ All thru the Bible from the beginning to end shows proof of the
HOLY DEITY = 3 HOLY BEINGS ~
Before Jesus was born He was a Spirit: God the Father is a Spirit: & the 3rd
person or Holy Being:
THE HOLY SPIRIT
is also a Spirit:
What I cannot understand is why so many people even Christians have a problem with
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
no, I don't and I don't want to get into a discussion, because I have the feeling that you just want to discuss and not learn the truth and therefore I will spare my time. The pharasees and scribes of old also liked discussions, but Jesus does not want us to discuss because of the sake of discussion. If you want to learn how it is right, o.k. but I'm not going to discuss for the sake of discussion.
Does Jesus refer to the Holy Spirit as -He, or is, He, a requirement of grammar being translated from a word that is in the neuter gender...just a question, as spirit is from the word - wind, which is neuter in gender from pneuma
1John5:7,8 list three person's of the godhead and states that they are one
prove the error! Don't just say "error!", prove him wrong and tell how it is right! Go ahead, I'm expecting an answer!
John 3:16, John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6
I am always confused about Jesus being God at the same time, I constantly pray for a clear understanding!
Jesus is the Son of God. Read John 17:3
EGW said that the Holy Spirit IS the third member of the Godhead read this.
If God said ETERNAL GODHEAD- meaning both of them three are from eternity.......
If Jesus was literally begotten and has a beginning then he cannot be apart of ETERNAL GODHEAD because the GODHEAD has no beginning and ending. But we read that Jesus is part of ETERNAL GODHEAD.............
We affirmed that the Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Ghost is uncreated, the Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and the Holy Ghost is eternal, the Father is Almighty, the Son is Almighty, and the Holy Ghost is Almighty, the whole THREE PERSONS are coeternal and coequal.
What is Heavenly Trio?
(Series B #7 p.62)
Heavenly Trio- means that there are Three distinct persons or beings in a Godhead or Three Gods.
The eternal Godhead- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. UL148
A message of WARNING who preach the two dignitaries powers or teaching Threeness, Twoness, and Oneness they are both under the control of SPIRITUALISM!!!
When men feel competent to pronounce judgement and condemn the Holy Spirit, they do a work for themselves which difficult to counteract. The whole head becomes weak, and the discerment so weak that it is apt to judge unrighteously. 4MR358
You are baptized in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...You are born unto God, and you stand under the sanction and the power of the THREE HOLIEST BEINGS IN HEAVEN, who are able to keep you from falling. 7MR267.
The words of Christ teach that we should regard ourselves as inseparably bound to our Father in heaven. Whatever our position, we are dependent upon God, who holds all destinies in His hands. He has appointed us our work, and has endowed us with faculties and means for that work. So long as we surrender the will to God, and trust in His strength and wisdom, we shall be guided in safe paths, to fulfill our appointed part in His great plan.But the one who depends upon his own wisdom and power is separating himself from God.Instead of working in unison with Christ, he is fulfilling the purpose of the enemy of God and man. DA 209.2
The light of truth is constantly shining, but many men and women comprehend it not, and why? Because selfishness, egotism, pride blind their spiritual eyesight. Standing between them and the true light is the idol of their opinion. MR#77 p.6
Jeremiah 13:15-17
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, the THREE HOLY DIGNITARIES OF HEAVEN have declared that they will strengthen men to overcome the power of darkness. 5BC 1110.
Warning:
Just before us is the closing struggle of the great controversy when with all power and signs and lying wonders and with all decievableness of unrighteousness Satan is to work to misrepresent the character of God, that he may seduce, it were possible, even the elect. 5T746
We have been brought together as a school and we need to realize that the HOLY SPIRIT, who is as much as a PERSON AS GOD IS A PERSON is walking through these grounds. 7MR299 (Evangelism 616)
Baptism is a most solemn ceremony. When men and women, truly converted are baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, these THREE REPRESENTATIVES OF HEAVENLY AUTHORITY behold the scene and accepted the vows made by human agents to walk henceforth in newness of life. 6MR29
Those who reject the SPIRIT OF TRUTH place themselves under the control of a spirit that opposed to the word and work of God. For a time, they may continue to teach some phases of truth, but their refusal to accept all the light that God sends will after a time place them where they will do the work of a false watchman...There will always be those who are seeking for something new, and who stretch and strain the Word of God to make it SUPPORT their IDEAS AND THEORIES. MR723
A spurious light will be accepted in the place of truth by some who feel called upon to be expositors of the Scriptures, because of their calling or position. 11MR89
The Godhead and was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave THEMSELVES to the working out of the plan of redemption. CH222
We cannot render to God supreme love and honor, if we do not recognize the HOLY SPIRIT which the Lord sends. MR #599-16 (1900)
The eternal Godhead- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. CH222
The Father is God (ELI)- First Person in the Godhead
Jesus (the Son)- is God (ELOHA)- Second Person in the Godhead
Holy Spirit is God (NESHEMAH)- the Third Person in the Godhead
What is Heavenly Trio?
Heavenly Trio means that there are three distinct persons or beings Godhead or three Gods.
Bible and SOP supported.
CONTRA-OPPOSED- We are warned!
A spurious light will be accepted in the place of truth' read the following:
How about the belief of twoness (Binity) that only the Father and Son composed of the Godhead?
Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. SEE also 1John 5:8.
In the great closing work we shall meet with perplexities that we know not how to deal with, but let us not FORGET that the THREE GREAT POWERS OF HEAVEN are working, that a divine hand is on the wheel, and that God will bring His purposes to pass."- EV.65 (1902). see also TM300.
Eze.1:15-21
As the wheel-like complications were under the guidance of the hand beneath the wings of the cherubim, so the complicated play of human events is under divine control. Amidst the strife and tumult of nations, He that sitteth above the cherubim still guides the affairs of the earth."- Ed.178 (1903).
How about a belief that Holy Spirit is not the Third Person of the Godhead?
Bible and SOP supported rebuked and condemned.
So was God still a trinity when Jesus was dead for 3 days?
Gregory Paul + How can three of them be both? How is it that them three are BOTH? You will go as far as twisting an ordinary functional grammatical word just to prove falsehood.....what am I even saying?...... falsehood will only beget falsehood to keep it going
What Pr. Asscherick didn't realize that Sis. White and our pioneers weren't trinitarians. Trinity came to SDA church after the prophetess died, but she gave us warning; "Those who seek to remove the OLD LANDMARKS are not holding fast; they are not remembering how they have received and heard. Those who try to bring in theories that would remove THE PILLARS OF OUR FAITH concerning the SANCTUARY or concerning THE PERSONALITY OF GOD OR OF CHRIST, are working as blind men." (MR 760 9.5) 1905.
In context, when Sis. White talked about the third person which is the Holy Spirit, she meant the divine life of Jesus Himself, not someone else!
"Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the COMFORTER, who was to take his place THIS COMFORTER IS THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE SOUL OF HIS LIFE, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin. (RH, May 19, 1904 par.1)
Jesus is our Comforter (19MR 297.3)
"I will not leave you comfortless; I will come to you." The divine Spirit that the world's Redeemer promised to send, is the PRESENCE AND POWER OF GOD. (ST, November 23, 1891 par. 1)
If we study our church history, we would know this is a false theology, as it's in controversy to what our pioneers and the Bible taught. But as foretold by Sis. White, the omega apostasy would soon come and be received by many....God have mercy on us, it's being fulfilled in our very own eyes!
Escorpion Venenoso You are correct, when you understood that EGW was speaking about Jesus' own life; His omnipresence power called the Holy Spirit aka the comforter (I've given you lots of quotes, yet you totally ignore it) That book, the Evangelism is from the Devil; it's a compilation with added titles, and they deceitfully chopped what they don't want you to read! They put a PERIOD to a COMMA and deleted the rest of the statement. Much like what they did to most of Bible translations.
Your statement above is from a talk given at the Avondale School on April 15, 1899. This talk was never published during Ellen White’s lifetime.Part of it was first released in 1946 with the publication of Evangelism. A further part of it was published in 1990 in Manuscript Releases, vol. 7, p. 299, and then in 1994 more of it was released in Sermons and Talks, vol. 2, pp. 136-139.
The entire talk has not yet been published, but from Sermons and Talks we know that the above quotation is not the full sentence. The point that Sister White was making is seen in the context of the whole statement: "We have been brought together as a school, and we need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through these grounds, unseen by human eyes; that the Lord God is our Keeper and Helper. He hears every word we utter and knows every thought of the mind." (Sermon and Talks, vol. 2, pp. 136, 137).
Ellen White was making it clear that she was not advocating that the Holy Spirit was merely some impersonal force, but the person of “the Lord God” who was constantly with them watching and listening to everything that happened. If she was trying to teach the Trinity, she failed, for the school did not adopt the Trinity doctrine and the great “weight of evidence” from her writings is clearly on the non-trinitarian side of the issue.
Since you refuse to believe that EGW never taught the Trinity doctrine, can you explain why she calls Jesus as the Comforter/the Holy Spirit MANY TIMES?
Whose son was Jesus when he was born in Jerusalem?
Ella Eryanthy so Jesus said he would send himself, makes perfect sense?!?
James Culver If you read John 14 with prayers and without a preconceived mind, it'll make sense, perfectly!
John 14:16: "I will pray the Father (talking to His disciples), and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may ABIDE with you forever."
John 14:17: The Comforter is also called The Spirit of Truth (Who is the spirit of truth? Please read the prior verse John 14:6 He explained He is the way, THE TRUTH and the life, NO MAN commeth unto the Father BUT BY ME. So, He was NOT talking about someone else!). The world can not receive Him because it seeth Him not; but ye (the disciples) KNOW Him; for he DWELLETH with them, and shall be IN them.
Did you catch that? If Jesus was talking about someone else whom His disciples know not, He wouldn't say that they know Him and better yet, He dwelleth with them! All these He spoke in the context of NO MAN come to the Father but ONLY by Himself (John 14:6).
John 14:18: "I will NOT leave you comfortless; I WILL COME to you." In other words; He is the promised comforter to come!
He indeed came back. NOT in a visible/flesh form, but in a spiritual form tho' invisible to His disciples, just as much as a person as Himself. This spirit proceedeth from the Father (John 15:26). It's the very life/character of the Father Himself who lives in Jesus and makes them ONE (John 14:10). The Father anointed His only begotten Son with His own life (John 1:32) and the Son becomes the ONLY channel/mediator of God's Spirit to live in us enable us to worship Him in spirit and in truth (John 4:24).
+Ella Eryanthy EGW said that the Holy Spirit IS the third member of the Godhead read this.
If God said ETERNAL GODHEAD- meaning both of them three are from eternity.......
If Jesus was literally begotten and has a beginning then he cannot be apart of ETERNAL GODHEAD because the GODHEAD has no beginning and ending. But we read that Jesus is part of ETERNAL GODHEAD.............
We affirmed that the Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Ghost is uncreated, the Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and the Holy Ghost is eternal, the Father is Almighty, the Son is Almighty, and the Holy Ghost is Almighty, the whole THREE PERSONS are coeternal and coequal.
What is Heavenly Trio?
(Series B #7 p.62)
Heavenly Trio- means that there are Three distinct persons or beings in a Godhead or Three Gods.
The eternal Godhead- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. UL148
A message of WARNING who preach the two dignitaries powers or teaching Threeness, Twoness, and Oneness they are both under the control of SPIRITUALISM!!!
When men feel competent to pronounce judgement and condemn the Holy Spirit, they do a work for themselves which difficult to counteract. The whole head becomes weak, and the discerment so weak that it is apt to judge unrighteously. 4MR358
You are baptized in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...You are born unto God, and you stand under the sanction and the power of the THREE HOLIEST BEINGS IN HEAVEN, who are able to keep you from falling. 7MR267.
The words of Christ teach that we should regard ourselves as inseparably bound to our Father in heaven. Whatever our position, we are dependent upon God, who holds all destinies in His hands. He has appointed us our work, and has endowed us with faculties and means for that work. So long as we surrender the will to God, and trust in His strength and wisdom, we shall be guided in safe paths, to fulfill our appointed part in His great plan.But the one who depends upon his own wisdom and power is separating himself from God.Instead of working in unison with Christ, he is fulfilling the purpose of the enemy of God and man. DA 209.2
The light of truth is constantly shining, but many men and women comprehend it not, and why? Because selfishness, egotism, pride blind their spiritual eyesight. Standing between them and the true light is the idol of their opinion. MR#77 p.6
Jeremiah 13:15-17
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, the THREE HOLY DIGNITARIES OF HEAVEN have declared that they will strengthen men to overcome the power of darkness. 5BC 1110.
Warning:
Just before us is the closing struggle of the great controversy when with all power and signs and lying wonders and with all decievableness of unrighteousness Satan is to work to misrepresent the character of God, that he may seduce, it were possible, even the elect. 5T746
We have been brought together as a school and we need to realize that the HOLY SPIRIT, who is as much as a PERSON AS GOD IS A PERSON is walking through these grounds. 7MR299 (Evangelism 616)
Baptism is a most solemn ceremony. When men and women, truly converted are baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, these THREE REPRESENTATIVES OF HEAVENLY AUTHORITY behold the scene and accepted the vows made by human agents to walk henceforth in newness of life. 6MR29
Those who reject the SPIRIT OF TRUTH place themselves under the control of a spirit that opposed to the word and work of God. For a time, they may continue to teach some phases of truth, but their refusal to accept all the light that God sends will after a time place them where they will do the work of a false watchman...There will always be those who are seeking for something new, and who stretch and strain the Word of God to make it SUPPORT their IDEAS AND THEORIES. MR723
A spurious light will be accepted in the place of truth by some who feel called upon to be expositors of the Scriptures, because of their calling or position. 11MR89
The Godhead and was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave THEMSELVES to the working out of the plan of redemption. CH222
We cannot render to God supreme love and honor, if we do not recognize the HOLY SPIRIT which the Lord sends. MR #599-16 (1900)
The eternal Godhead- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. CH222
The Father is God (ELI)- First Person in the Godhead
Jesus (the Son)- is God (ELOHA)- Second Person in the Godhead
Holy Spirit is God (NESHEMAH)- the Third Person in the Godhead
What is Heavenly Trio?
Heavenly Trio means that there are three distinct persons or beings Godhead or three Gods.
Bible and SOP supported.
CONTRA-OPPOSED- We are warned!
A spurious light will be accepted in the place of truth' read the following:
How about the belief of twoness (Binity) that only the Father and Son composed of the Godhead?
Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. SEE also 1John 5:8.
In the great closing work we shall meet with perplexities that we know not how to deal with, but let us not FORGET that the THREE GREAT POWERS OF HEAVEN are working, that a divine hand is on the wheel, and that God will bring His purposes to pass."- EV.65 (1902). see also TM300.
Eze.1:15-21
As the wheel-like complications were under the guidance of the hand beneath the wings of the cherubim, so the complicated play of human events is under divine control. Amidst the strife and tumult of nations, He that sitteth above the cherubim still guides the affairs of the earth."- Ed.178 (1903).
How about a belief that Holy Spirit is not the Third Person of the Godhead?
Bible and SOP supported rebuked and condemned.
Gregory Paul Sis. White died in 1915, thus ALL her writings were written under the original NON trinity doctrine. History fact; Mr. Leroy Froom and friends inserted the word Trinity for the first time in the year book without even being voted on. In 1980, GC voted it and a creed was created called the 27 fundamental beliefs, and it keeps being modified. That was a history fact. My question is; "Is it possible that Sis. White was teaching the Trinity while the whole church rejected it?" Please answer....
Meanwhile, let Sis. White answer for herself what she meant with her writing in UL148:
"His commission....baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (UL 148.3)
Here's another writing of her:
"They were to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Christ's NAME was to be their WATCHWORD, their badge of distinction, their bond of union, the AUTHORITY for their course of action....Nothing was to be recognized in His kingdom that did not bear HIS NAME and superscription.' (AA 28.2)
You see, she wasn't teaching there are 3 INDIVIDUALS. You're reading things not written, friend. Rather, we are to baptize under the AUTHORITY of Christ's name ALONE as Christ had said; I'm the way to the Father, no other way. Christ also said we pray TO the Father, IN the name of the Jesus for the Holy Spirit, as the third person in the context of PERSONALITY/Character NOT in the context of "another individual" different than the Father and Son.
Prove? She wrote: "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations." "Go to the farthest bounds of the habitable globe, and know that wherever you go, MY PRESENCE will attend you." No more valuable legacy could He have left them than the promise of HIS ABIDING PRESENCE." (1NL 62.4)
Notice, EGW clearly taught that Christ comes back to His disciples as their Comforter. This is what the third person means. His Divine life...called the Holy Spirit. NOT a different individual as the Trinity teaches!
"Christ comes as a Comforter to all who believe." (8MR 57.3)
so much error,