Australians still denied facts on the Voice
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- (Originally published 5 July 2023)
The Institute of Public Affairs’ Legal Rights Program Director John Storey details new research which shows how the Calma-Langton Voice to Parliament model will be undemocratic, complex and divisive.
It has become a hallmark of the referendum campaign that when the Prime Minister, and other advocates, are asked to explain critical details about the Voice to Parliament proposal, they invoke the Calma-Langton report.
When put under the microscope, the Calma-Langton report shows how undemocratic, unfair, and divisive the Prime Minister’s preferred model for the Voice will be.
To find out more about the IPA’s research visit: ipa.org.au/the...
Authorised by Scott Hargreaves, IPA, Level 2 410 Collins, Melbourne 3000
The fact that it is still a mystery what we are voting for in totality makes me distrustful.
mhm, a lot of it seems to not be made up yet. But It looks like it's pretty clear what that's about. Pretty sure the parliament decides & votes on all the details.
This is a direct quote from the proposed constitutional amendment, voice.gov.au:
"the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.”
@@michaelg-p3108 Would you like to allude to any of what that could mean? "Make laws to matters including composition, functions and powers and procedures". Seems like anything could fit under that? eg Farmers shall include all parliamentary voices from Torres Strait Islanders and Aboriginals when deciding to sink a well or cull the earth to a depth more than 50cm.
We are voting for radicals to control Australia. If yes gets in we are in deep dodoos. DEFINETLY VOTE NO!
@@bettymarshall2702 Already in doodoos deep , they just want to keep digging ...
@@buryitdeep I read it it as, the parliament will decide what the voice can do, and who is in it.
They’re not giving the details because they know it would have even less chance than it has right now.
I think it's because the parliament gets to create the details. The parliament will decide on what the voice looks like, how people get chosen for it etc.
This is a direct quote from the proposed constitutional amendment, voice.gov.au:
"the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.”
And then Treaty
@@ButlerProspect Maybe, who knows. That'd be up to parliament I guess. Didn't NZ do a treaty?
@@michaelg-p3108 difference is the "Voice" will be Law by Constitution, meaning it will have Power to dictate Parliment & High Court forever in favour one group over all others
Its reason Albo wont release the Terms and wont respond directly regarding Treaty Question, as it has already been mentioned in Past its a lead up to Treaty
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Yeah, I've heard some Indigenous groups see it as a 1st step toward a treaty.
I think, though, the constitution is different than laws, right? Like, the constitution lays the groundwork and sets the direction for laws. And, then the laws are made by parliament based on the constitution.
The amendment proposal says "...the parliament will make laws with respect to the voice...".
The whole system needs to be audited and made accountable. There are too many parasitical grifters looking after themselves instead of their people.
And it’s these Parasitical grifters that are so loud trying to protect their little kingdoms
And paedophiles
And communists
And Satan worshippers
FULL OF TRAITORS
@@batmanlives6456 who are the people who you are referring to and how do you know they are grifters?
@@Mark70609these people I refer to are working for the aboriginal affairs department
Most if not all are on 200k and up and not making a difference to Aboriginal people who are in need
These are grifters
Not doing their job …
When speaking on pro-Voice issues including 'Treaty', Sydney based solicitor (elitist, aboriginal activist and Voice To Parliament panelist), Teela Reid, best summed up the Voice reality in her own words... "Aboriginal activism must return to its communist roots".
Communism is not here to strengthen Australian democracy... it exists to control our thoughts, freedoms and rights, and actively destroy our justice system.
The best road forward to ensure all Australians remain equal under the law, and to help those most in need, is to...
1. Vote (Write in pen) NO.
2. Demand a full audit of funding of the aboriginal 'industry'.
3. Kick the commies out of our government, educational institutions, unions and corporations.
Referendum2023
○ Vote NO! 🇦🇺
Let’s not waste our time on the details or lack thereof. Vote no to racial segregation.
When your waiting for a doctor hospital bed cant get housing or sleeping rough driving on crap roads paying a fortune in food and bills remember how much albos foly is costing
what CURRENTLY the Aboriginals get for FREE...
Why don't White Australians, that have paid tax most of their lives, get these types of benefits?
eg. FREE Medications, FREE Prescriptions, FREE designer clothing,
FREE Medical, Dental, Education, Legal ...
if they're unemployed they get 20% more dole money than 97% of the population.
Free HECS, exempt from Stamp Duty, one off training or license fees eg Free Forklift training and license. Fishing license, Truck license and more….
What else do they get?
Free Hepatitis A vaccine, Free Cannibus, Property Rates?
Not easy sat on your ass all day drinking 4x and watching us working and paying tax, NO
Now we find out that the fake Aboriginal "Ray Martin" who earned more in a year than most hardworking Aussies have in 10 or more years received all these benefits too ?
U are forgetting the helpless refugees that get vendor loans and discounts in cheap housing while everyone pays interests and full price .
In light of NO detail is very simple - NO NO NO
Why would anyone want to vote against themselves, I won’t be. Why would I vote to install another layer of bureaucracy that will eat up more of my hard earned taxes? Bureaucrats that don’t have my best interest in mind. That’s just stupid!
facts? ever smelt a chicken farm? thats the voice
How to give access to jobs in these hippy communes that you aren't even allowed to enter?
That's because it is as dodgy as....
Da da da another referendum bites the dust.
Prelegent has No idea what VOICE MEANS.,. we do not need more propaganda on issue NO TO VOICE IS AN ANSWER...!! WE MUST CARE FOR CHILDREN FUTURE
The IPA havent stopped lying about the Voice from the word Go. What are they afraid of?
How many of your otherwise very good presentations will you ruin with stupid intrusive annoying music?
I wouldn't sign a blank cheque any more than I would vote yes for the voice.
Write No
@@Thomas_Santa.5686Hmm … ever wondered why so many indigenous people support the “ridiculous No campaign”?
Perhaps it’s because the are not guaranteed a say / vote for representatives for the Voice. Some fear being disenfranchised.
The irony is that indigenous adults have a say / vote on who their state and federal representatives will be for parliament but no guaranteed say / vote for representatives for the Voice. Kind of sad this is 😢
No wonder some (possibly a lot) of indigenous peoples are underwhelmed by this !
The people would be angry if they got the details
But doesn't the parliament, including all our liberal MP's vote and decide on the details.
I found this direct quote from the proposed constitutional amendment, voice.gov.au:
"the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.”
When you vote “Yes” you dishonour the principle as to why the 1967 referendum was so successful which was a declaration by 97% of Australians who believed in constitutional equality for all Australians.
For the “Yes23” referendum I don’t see any reason why a majority of Australians would want to vote differently to the same principle of the 1967 referendum voters.
Write “NO” and pay respect to our 1967 referendum voters who upheld constitutional equality for all Australians for the past 56 years.
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Excellent points. Further to that, it was the very same dinosaurs & d-heads Ray Martin refers to who actually voted yes in that 1967 referendum. We can see through this 2023 referendum & now choose to vote no.
A vote for yes is a vote for apartheid with the indigenous becoming the losers.
incorrect - since 1967 govt tried their best to help Aboriginal communities but they have failed as mentioned in Productivity Commission Aboriginal socioeconomic status is not improving in the 17 targeted areas www.pc.gov.au/closing-the-gap-data/annual-data-report/report/snapshot-socioeconomic . ATSIC was a service delivery model and it worked, however, Howard govt abolished it for the privilege political reasons as usual. The system have been played by govt as a politic field with Aboriginals lives on the line where Health for Aboriginal people die 10years younger, incarcerated youths at 13yrs young, and suicidal rates double that of mainstream Australians even when they are 3% of the entire Australian population. Aboriginal funding is being redirected towards NGOs and govt departments not being accountable to millions spent towards other mainstream services and programs with Aboriginal funding. Vote YES will give Aboriginal people the a Voice to say where the funding goes to, where funds are directed towards Aboriginal Community Controlled Organisations instead to NGOs that are run by non-Aboriginal people. Vote #YES23
All Australians are equal no group should be more equal than the rest of the population. We are all represented in the constitution as it stands.
incorrect, Aboriginal people are the Royal family to this land prior to the invasion of british. The genocide is still happening as of today to wipe the Aboriginal race. To stop this, we all nee to vote YES to ensure govt funds are directed towards Aboriginal Community Controlled Organisations to develop their capacity building and capability development to ensure their governance is compliant and accountable towards us being the tax payers.
Actually, we are not!!! aboriginal and torres straight people are not included in our constitution. This is why a YES vote is so important.
@@andrewcumming6319 100% agreed......lets include them in the rulebook will build capacity and capability develop their community controlled organisations in good governance and vice versa, the govt will need to practice good governance of directing the fundings where its needed based on the advisory Voice of the First Australians. vote #YES23
@passionproductstesting2542 good on you.
@@andrewcumming6319no actually its not…
The strange thing is when you do ask reasonable questions you get abuse or called a d-head & dinosaur by people like Ray Martin. What are they hiding to be so defensive about?
GET LOST RAY MARTIN!
Ray Martin already replied in his interview he is not attacking the No voters, he is attacking dinosaurs and D H, so who are these ??? Ha.........ha.............ha
@@meafoakiI would like to ask Ray Martin what "facts" did he leave out of his 60 Minute reports simply to make a good story.
Strange that you should mention Ray Martin. When I was visiting Port Moresby about 20 years ago, he was visiting, too. I went to the Yacht Club and the locals were thinking of chucking him into the sea. Useless twat.
Black Ray should apologize .
More it is talked about Voice more am convinced to NO, NO, NO
Enough talk. Just vote NO. We are wasting too much money on them already.
Agreed
42 billion a year
Write No using a black pen
incorrect, its the govt is wasting the money for not meeting their targets to help Aboriginal peoples socioeconomic status. you can veiw more info at this link www.pc.gov.au/closing-the-gap-data/annual-data-report/report/snapshot-socioeconomic vote YES so Aboriginal people can direct govt agencies towards the survival of Aboriginal culture and their lives.
Tell everybody. Tell the politicians twice because they are stupid
spot on.
I voted NO as I didn’t really know what I was voting for.
And that lack of information is deliberate. Vote NO
Mhm, I had so many questions too. I really wanted to know how the Voice would elect its members for one.
But that would be left to the parliament, which makes sense. All the parties get a vote.
This is a direct quote from the proposed constitutional amendment, voice.gov.au:
"the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.”
Exactly and the scary part is Albo doesn’t even know why…..he hasn’t even read the Uluṟu statement.!!!
Wise move!
the voice is a trojan horse
quite clearly
radical, not modest
and hidden agendas, lack of details, etc
could be legislated, if needed, no need to change constitution!
anyway, we need audits instead...
vote no, in pen, not pencil
very true and well said !!
A Trojan Horse for the extreme left/ communist view if the cv of the players is anything to go on. Aboriginal people will be shafted and the activist will ensure that nothing changes
incorrect, the Voice is an empowering instrument to advise the govt to direct funds towards needed areas and not to be complacent in Aboriginal funds where the govt themselves along with NGOs are not audited and accounted for towards improving the lives of Aboriginal people and their communities. Regarding details of the Voice, it is not required, its about the PRINCIPAL and when YES is passed, the details will be co-designed to ensure its effectiveness to direct funds to build Aboriginal people and communities are achieved.
We need to enforce the treason laws already in the constitution.
I agree to not edit the current constitution.
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First the Voice, then the Invoice!...... Say NO to racism!
@@Thomas_Santa.5686 So you want to divide the country by race but you are not a racist?? Makes no sence.
@@Thomas_Santa.5686 The whole critical race theory is racist at its core. The Voice is a divisive racist bill that sets Aboriginals against the rest of Australia. The government needs to stop pandering to self-interest and listen to the people, including Aboriginals. It is foolish to say a YES vote is racist.
that's hilarious
@@Thomas_Santa.5686. ⚓️anker.
@@Thomas_Santa.5686you vote yes because you got your education from a TV set...
My vote changed from soft Yes to soft No after Albos " chicken little " deflect rather than answer reasonable questions, it's gone hard No after the Yes supporters trashing of Jacinta Price, then hardened after watching Red over Black documentary and realised this is only another step against Australia's successful Democracy.
"The Voice" is just a metaphor, and we're not told what it means ! Vote NO !
It’ll mean a treaty like the one in NZ and the full and final payments for that is never ending and now they want co governance and have pushed through seperate health care where your ethnicity takes precedence.
Just sitting back waiting to cast our votes.
Dear tavuzzipust7887, well you may be right Friend it may be a metaphor. But a search on the ASIC business register also reveals a lot about it too ! Search "First People" and "Voice" and "First Nations" and even "Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander". These terms when registered as businesses and corporations take on a whole new meaning for anyone with eyes to see. God Bless
Well of course. If ppl knew the facts no-one would support the Yes campaign
its the PRINCIPAL to include Aboriginal people in the constitution! vote YES to ensure govt direct funds towards Aboriginal people and communities who are the most marginalised Australian ruclips.net/video/a6P9-nsmzaY/видео.html
The whole thing is a Trojan.
Yes UN agenda 21 land grab scam they're pushing worldwide by the Lucifer trust
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Agreed. When the Government don't know or can't give us the details of the proposed Constructional change/s, who knows what's inside?
The voice is a huge can of worms best left unopened.
*With no details we do not know how it will be funded, what powers there will be, full blood indigenous disagree with it, so why should the majority of Australia vote for it*
The PM who initiated the referendum must resign if the Voice is defeated, in no uncertain terms.
Who said he is PM Material - CABAL Material - Yes - PM -NO !!!!
No, the voice is not defeated, you can vote in any polling booth in your state, so how many yes voters are going to go on road trips and vote in as many places as possible, yes it may bo illegal but that won't stop them because once their vote is cast it is In the count,
I want him to resign anyway. He is a dickhead.
@@dalecoad4794good thinking. The yes clowns would do it, too
He should resign period. The voice is a deceptive attack on the constitution amounting to treason.
As Albanese said, "Don't worry about the details, we'll work them out later"!
as you can see by the rubbish way he has run this country, he is unqualified. no education other than a union back office unimportant clot, the union wants him in, (a social government ) we are rooted if he stays in.
Write No
Using a black pen
Just remember the words out of Thomas Mayos mouth -“pay the rent” “reparations” and “get ALL our kids out of prison”
LIKE HELL!
The current elite proponents of the Voice must all be stood down for failing to lift the lives of aboriginals in remote communities and replaced by new blood with fresh, practical ideas. Otherwise, it’s same old same old victims reparation $$$ mentality. And all monies should be audited. Where did the billions go?. Taxpayers need to know as we are all suffering. Royal Commission/Audit the billions of $$$ handed to NOel Pearson & Co and make those responsible accountable.
It’s been sponsored by Rio Tinto - global mining. The Voice sounds like the biggest land grab in history.
Yea nah that was Maui recently 👹👹👹
@@StevenMilne-sm4fk nope - rio Tinto sponsored the Yes (London) campaign for all the expats- $10m
They already receive over $$$$$$30 BILLION every year. Where is the MONEY going? and they want more. Sadly I am NO VOTER
well said@@cammocammo8848
43 billion dollars every year
Where's the money
The Aboriginal industry doesn't need a voice, it needs an audit.
Where has last year's taxpayer $40B gone? Are black indigenous Australians better off now than a year ago? What have Australian taxpayers got for their $40B? I'll tell you what they've got, they've got a racist referendum that is set up to enlarge the size of that black indigenous hole Albanese and all previous Australian Governments have repeatedly throw our money into. Vote 'NO'!
spot on.
Where is the No campaign? It’s gone quiet while Yes is getting louder. Trusting polls is ludicrous. They need to keep fighting.
Communists never tell
One country one voice and one flag for all Australians.
So, how would you feel if your people were not included in our constitution? Aboriginal and Terres straight people are not included in the constitution!
Embed and authoritarian system into a democratic system. That's going work out well NOT.
"One country, Two systems" Where have we heard that before?
The Māori Voice to Parliament has driven policies which compromise community safety, through race-based policing which is soft on violent crime.
The Waitangi Tribunal has blamed the high incarceration and reoffending rate amongst Māori on the New Zealand government, and on policing and enforcement leading to disproportionate outcomes. The effect of the Tribunal’s demand in its Report on the Crown and Disproportionate Reoffending Rates 2017 for the Crown to meet fixed targets for the reduction of reoffending, and that these targets be different between Māori and non-Māori, can only be met by refusing to incarcerate violent convicted criminals.
The Māori Voice to Parliament has demanded preferential access to critical government resources for Māori, which has put race ahead of need.
The Waitangi Tribunal has a track record of using its power to advise the parliament in order to demand that critical government resources, such as health care resources, are distributed on the basis of the race of the recipient, and not who needs those resources most. The decision in the Covid-19 Priority Report that vaccines should have been allocated based on race and not the age of recipients (on the basis that Māori are statistically younger than non-Māori New Zealanders), despite the elderly being most vulnerable to Covid-19, resulted in a change to government policy to prioritise Māori. The decision in Hauora: Report on Stage One of the Health Services and Outcomes Kaupapa Inquiry led to the creation of a Māori-only health system, with over a billion dollars in extra health and other funding.
The Māori Voice to Parliament has threatened the rights of New Zealanders to use and enjoy national cultural symbols.
The Waitangi Tribunal’s approach to intellectual property rules undermines western legal norms which has the effect of restricting how New Zealanders are able to use and enjoy common national symbols, including depictions and use of the famous Haka, Māori tattoo art, Māori statues and famous historical Māori figures. In the Report into Claims affecting Māori Culture and Identity 2011 the Tribunal recommended the government change the law to give Māori a near monopoly over certain symbols and native flora and fauna, to prevent ‘offensive’ usage. A similar outcome in Australia could mean the use of iconic Australian symbols like kangaroos, emus, Uluru/Ayers Rock or boomerangs would be limited to only Indigenous Australians, or that Indigenous Australians would have to approve of the use of such symbols. Even items common to Australian households, like tea towels with a depiction of Uluru/Ayers Rock, or boomerang fridge magnets, would become problematic, and it might even put in doubt the ongoing use of Australia’s coat of arms and the southern cross depicted in the national flag.
The Māori Voice to Parliament decided that Māori’s will have an explicit veto power over certain legislation, and that there are some laws that only Māori can even suggest reforms to.
The Waitangi Tribunal has conferred on Māori complainants an explicit formal veto power over a range of legislative matters that affect Māori (Report on Claims about the Reform of Te Ture Whenua Māori Act 1993-2016). This has meant that even laws intended to better manage competing Māori interests in Māori land, and the powers of the Māori Land Court, are now off-limits. The Tribunal has even held in its Report on the Māori Community Development Act Claims that reforms to certain existing legislation can only be proposed or initiated by Māori, rather than parliament. In Australia, this would be the equivalent to requiring Indigenous consent to amend existing native title laws or national parks legislation and preventing the Commonwealth parliament from even initiating amendments.
The Māori Voice to Parliament has an almost limitless scope in relation to issues it can be involved in.
The scope of the Waitangi Tribunal has expanded from its initial narrow focus on land issues, to being involved in nearly every aspect of New Zealand law, from pandemic policy (The Covid-19 Priority Report 2021) to the negotiation and interpretation of international treaties (Report on the Trans-Pacific Partnership 2016). In effect, any matter in which Māori can complain of a breach of the Treaty of Waitangi will be heard by the Waitangi Tribunal.
We should ask Jacinta Adern to explain publicly what is going on? shall we ?
*with all due respect and thanks for calling out treaties, but this one is uniquely politically one-sided to ALP. With no details we do not know how it will be funded, what powers there will be, full blood indigenous disagree with it, so why should the majority of Australia vote for it*
well done, thanks for the info.
You can see the similarities with the voice and the maori treaty - NZ has been run into the ground and the voice will be no different; extremely divisive and dangerous for democracy. VOTE NO
I have heard some of this from Kiwi friends. But don't forget, the huge yes campaign is directed mainly at the large number of people whose IQ is in the double digits.
its so obviously an internal activist platform - shh, don't mention the details
its the principal that matters, as the details will come later ruclips.net/video/a6P9-nsmzaY/видео.html
NO! NO! NO AND MORE NO.
Its also disappointing that the public servants and their sycophant army refuse to accept and acknowledge there is a growing academic & scientific argument that suggests Australian Aborigines are NOT the first peoples of Australia.
There is indeed evidence in the Kimberly, only the Australian Government will not allow archaeologists near the Kimberly for further research and as such until we know 100% No body should be referring too Aboriginals as' First Nations".
@@Thomas_Santa.5686 It is tangible, anthropology tells us that Aboriginals were not the first Australians. Even Aboriginal lore says there were others here before they arrived. You are showing your ignorance, Thomas.
@@Thomas_Santa.5686there was people before them, present mob Arrived with the dingo, wiping out the large mammals and fauna
@@nigeltremain1900 The only reason this is happening is because the British claimed Australia under "Terra Nullius" and now they are trying any avenue to pacify the Aboriginal tribes anyway they can - including the acceptance of their bullshit dreamtime stories that they were the first people in Australia. The original DNA testing of "Mungo Man" proved that mungo-man had not genetic ties to modern day Australian Aborigines.
@@Thomas_Santa.5686calling someone a bot isn’t an argument for why you think they are wrong. Perhaps you are the 🤖
Funny how mr potato head promised so much to be the boss, Yet time after time payed no attention to his promises. Was he lying each time? and is he continously lying now? To add insult to injury blatantly lies about this waste of our money with this debacle, it seems only to take our minds of his inabilities.This country is going to be in so much debt being run by someone with NO qualifications. he needs to go.
One country
One people
One voice
Vote NO to apartheid on October 14th
vote YES to ensure govt direct funds towards the needs of Aboriginal people. ruclips.net/video/a6P9-nsmzaY/видео.html
NO is quicker to write and cheaper to budget.@@passionproductstesting2542
Aborigines have total access to opportunity now if they apply themselves, this about a group of people getting their place at the trrough😢power ,money government dosent work for average people now so why add another layer of entitled power mad loonies what about cost of living dosent matter if you been trained just to go ask for more
NO.
Don't worry the facts will be disclosed after you vote, by then it will be too late.
Socialism. Labor 101
It has a very bad smell about it.. that's why I will be voting NO !
actually it's a stench , it reeks !
It's got the smell of mischief, lies, and corruption, and that's why I'll be voting N O, in black pen.
Why is this info only coming out now ???????😮
Many of us have been censored, including on RUclips from even commenting. I have only been able to successfully post on any RUclips platform for a couple of weeks, after months of censorship where my comments were immediately deleted and disappeared.
The Voice campaign cost $400 million dollars. The money could have fed 50,000 Indigenous Australians for 80 years.
History has proven how shifty people can be. Trust them?
Albo doesn't know what The Voice is. He hasn't read the 18...26 pages of it. He can't explain it. On a purely legal basis all you have to do is to look at the wording on the AEC website - clause iii) gives the parliament constitutional level power. It's purely a power grab. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Well, no contract, no sale!!!
Voting yes is like signing a blind contract. These same people would banter over paying 50 cente extra for a coffee, but a willing to sign away their future, their kids and grandkids futures by just saying yes because power hungry liars told them they are racist if they dont say yes.
Its a NO from me. Its wrong that a certain group allready get more than the rest us so why would we give them more.
This prim minister is a disgrace, watch bill shorten step up, I’m sure he is biting his time.
Biding..
This Is a reflection on Albanese's integrity
Albo has no integrity whatsoever. He's just a serial liar, a crook, a charlatan, a pretender, and the worst PM in our history.
Because the facts would completely derail it.
I am legitimately 1/16 aboriginal, proud of the fact. but have never claimed anything from any other Australian for that, I earn my own way and have the same rights as all of us do. I am against this racist, divisive ploy to give more money to the government when their policies are failing to help those in need.
That's a fair comment; everyone needs to take responsibility for their own lives - black, white, brindle, brown, or whatever other colour. I come from a poor family, but that didn't hold me back. I just put in effort to improve my life.
With or without the voice to parliament, I'll stand with our first people, until the end.
Vote no
VOTED NO TO A BLANK CONTRACT AND CHEQUE CALLED THE REFERENDUM, AND DO NOT APOLOGISE OR SORRY TO ANYONE.❤
Vote no its going to screw us over big time
I'm in the UK...7 days before the Brexit vote day ( with many postal votes already cast) it was looking more and more possible that the 'Leavers' would prevail. So, the government announced there would need to be an emergency budget enforced on the day after the result.
So, guys look out for something similar in Australia if it's not going their way.
Thank you our UK Friend ! We continue to pray for what these same hostile foreign predatory transnational criminals did to our "Mother Country" who gave us our common law, and our Natural Law Jurisprudence which enshrines the Inalienable Natural Rights of every Australian Individual. We watched with horror as they allowed an entirely hostile foreign invasion force invade your beautiful homeland and turn it into an inversion of what it was created to be! Thank you for your care and warning. We are on guard, and appreciate you our Friend from the UK. Please keep us in your prayers, as you are all in ours in Australia. God Bless
one thing that caught my ear was the mention that if the voice were to succeed the department for indigenous welfare,the NIAA headed by L.Burney,N.Pearson and associates will still exist,yet the voices argument is to replace the broken systems that existed,the voice in my opinion is a guaranteed 100% money making for the few by way of threat to stifle Australian advancement for all Australian citizens.
Sharp ears you have there Dear larizize. I only wished more Australians had ears to hear the truth of it and vote a resounding No to this attempt to make Constitutionally enforced racism a feature of our Australian future. God Bless
We need an AUDIT NOT A REFERUNDUM....that Pearson guy got 550 million for his pet projects in the cape with 0 results.... absolutely disgracefull..
It's like the Australian government is trying to install a new form monarchy.
You are close Friend, except it isn't a Monarchy as such. This is all long planned by hostile foreign predatory transnational corporations, their owners were the ones who established the corporation that self identifies as the "United Nations" and its many offshoots including the "World Health Organization". Behind the "cover" are predatory capitalists who are totalitarians and dictators, which unlike a Monarchy in the West is not able to be controlled by a Parliament. God Bless
We have known the issues and solutions for some time. We need to stop giving a voice to those who have been road blocks to improving Aboriginal disadvantage.
yes its the govt that systematically redirect funds to mainstream services when it should be directed towards Aboriginal Community Controlled Organisations - vote YES ruclips.net/video/a6P9-nsmzaY/видео.html
This is not about the Voice. This is about Albenese's failure as a PM. Failure to help families and homeless in distress. Failure to control, QANTAS! Failure to control prices. Instead, he spent millions on this referendum.
His ego is hurt. Get a bit of his own back. How does he like it?
Scomo had his issues, as have the previous PM'S. But Albo has a credibility issue Like I have never witnessed before. Did Albo have the same trainer as Justin Trudeau
And now we have Mr Turnbull instructing people that if you don't know, find out!
The thing to me is that it was the job of the proponents from the very beginning to openly place on the table the whole process including the Uluru Statement from the Heart.
But they didn't! They were cagey about it and in the end they must explain why.
Thank goodness Aussies are rejecting the voice . Far too much secret squirrel shit from Albanese . Governor General should remove him
I like that someone called a Trojan Horse. How correct - you have no idea what is inside the blo-dy thing!
Did they have a flag when the white fella showed up coupla hundred years ago? 😆 NO 😆😁
even a thing called a voice to parliament is very vague and its super strange that we are asked to vote for something so vague and all the money behind it why not have all that focus on a campaign asking for both people to vote for aboriginal candidates and for more aboriginals to get involved in politics
Albanese said he will release the details next Sunday 15 OCT .
Try to get everyone you know out to vote No to overwhelm the process with No votes, so it will be absolutely impossible for them sneak in a Yes vote.
It’s all about the dollar. As Thomas Mayo said “Pay the RENT”
It's Mayo and Co. who need to pay the rent. After all, who was it who saved this country during WWI/2? It wasn't the abs, that's for sure. Without the sacrifices of the war effort, both at home and abroad, Australia would be a very different place now, I suspect.
A hereditary monarchy.
Australia is not a hereditary monarchy. Australia is a Representative Democracy within the legal framework of a Constitutional Monarchy. There is a massive difference.
Thank for this perspective.
Like most referendum proposals, the proposed 'Voice' seeks to add to Canberra's powers. That is a bad idea.
What parts don't you get
Already voted NO.
VOTING NO.
Vote NO multiple times at different polling booths. The yes activists are going to so dont feel shame
Doesn't Australia still have slaves.
Australia has never in our entire history had slaves.
@@tjsurname119 Sorry, but you are very very wrong there. Look up blackbirding, also the servitude placed on the stolen generation. It’s a very confronting and uncomfortable piece of Australian history.
@danieledmunds588 The stolen generation was given the best gift you can give. An education now they are the most successful Aboriginals around. Stop winging
Thank you for standing up against this terrible referendum.
Australians please dont give indigenous any special rights as compared to regular citizens. We did it in Canada and they are basically holding the rest of the country hostage.
Gough Whitlim gave Australia's sovereignty to the UN in 1973.
Kim Beasley said this in federal parliament.
The United Nations has given the Australian government mandate of ownership for all housing, property, farms and businesses that will come into effect once the republic is proclaimed.
The only thing keeping Australia from becoming a republic is the fact that Indigenous and Torres Strait Islanders are not currently included in the constitution and are still deemed to be the original owners of the land.
If Indigenous people are to be written up in the constitution, then this means Indigenous people have ceded their sovereignty and the united nations OWN ALL Australian Land under Native Title - meaning ALL Australians REGARDLESS OF COLOUR OR RACE lose their properties and houses under Native Title and are no longer classed as owners - including businesses.
The PM did not have and does not have the authority to do any such thing. The Sovereignty of the Australian People and Australia under our Constitution is LEGALLY only able to be changed by Referendum. Beasley was making a political point NOT a legal point. The United Nations is a hostile foreign Transnational Corporation with predatory capitalist interests in the misinformation being spread that "Australians have lost their Sovereignty" . That is Misinformation.
Sounds about why this is so important to these traitors running this fraudulent government
Where does this commentary come from? This simply does not have any meaning?
@@bernardphillips6988
If it has no meaning to you then you have no understanding.
Go and re-read it again and do some research instead of making foolish comments.
VOTE NO. Wellcome to country. To all AUSTRALIANS
How long till the Farming and Residential Land _Confiscations_ begin?
#Feudalism2PointOh
Never sign a blank cheque.
VOTE NO.
It'll be a totaly different country, and the principles will show this over time.
No Voice to the Executive and Parliament. Permanent presence in Canberra.
Billions of people are praying to become an Australian/Aussie
Institute of Public Affairs.. really? You need to change your name. You are nothing more than a right wing think tank.
Voice can Shape legislation and shape executive government policy if put in a chapter of its own {Prof Nicolas Arony)