King George's III's Mad Waistcoat Stains | Private Lives of Monarchs | Smithsonian Channel
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- From the enlarged sleeves to the foot stains on the front; each detail on the waistcoat of George III is revealing, and paints a picture of a prolonged, agonizing descent into madness.
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Omg he has food stains on his shirt. He was a madman
God lol
Lol
Yeah I thought that was pretty ridiculous too.
I think I understand the food stain thing from the perspective of those times Kings particularly rare meant to be able to eat without dropping anything it's pretty much having perfect table manners in a sentence
Well, yeah. They are stained. And along with everything else, it is sad to think about how sick he was.
Porphyria is such a godawful disease. I watched a friend suffer from it. She made it into her early 50's. She didn't die well. For lack of better words. I can only imagine what this man went through.
How sad. Im sorry for your friensdd.
It’s not 100% confirmed he did die from porphyria , it may have been bi polar disease and the awful treatments his doctors put him through
@@dianeshelton9592 Seriously, those treatments and his general treatment by doctors was horrific. And he couldn't even see his wife or children through most of it.
Carly Crays absolutely awful. Thank god at least no mentally ill person is subjected to that now. I sincerely hope at least.
@@dianeshelton9592 I'm only going by what the current Prince of Wales says. He's a little obsessed with the man.
He wasn’t mad! He was sick and it is sad that he is still called mad when in reality, he was just not in proper health
Insanity IS a sickness. Do you think he CHOSE to be that way? It doesn't matter how "not in proper health" he was, the salient feature of his illness was that he was mad as a hatter and the power structures around him had no recourse but to try to prop up his failing rule. Sounds terribly familiar to some of us in the USA.
Prickly Pear No. At that era, everything and anything would be named as madness when in this day and age no such diagnosis will be given as lightly as that. Psychosis isn’t diagnosed simply like that. I don’t have the full picture but I would like to read or find a research that physically prove his psychosis or at least provide clear evidence that it was researched. If he had psychosis, most likely he would have family members exhibiting similar symptoms more or less. I just cannot take it as a given fact based on the little to none information given in this short clip.
Nerdy Snailie His mental state was not in the best condition. The mad king who lost America was a victim of years of inbreeding, therefore causing him to have an array of issues. He most definitely was “mad”
He was a tyrant
@@ethanmcfarland8240 Get out of here, USA.
My man was j out here eating some spaghettio’s and got a little carried away w the fork, leave him alone
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Lol i'm eating spaghettios right now!
Kings were held to the highest standards
Food stains on the clothes meant he was forgetting his kingly status he was so sick he didn’t care anymore or he didn’t notice
I can't believe I just watched a video about food stains.
Lol. They'll be tracking the # of videos & other forms of Procrastination we used as we descended into madness 200 yrs from now!
I was very disappointed myself.
@@ladybluegrass4173 WHY? it was enjoyable for the forensics.
thats all you got out of this?
google “ List of killings ordered or supported by Muhammad “
Wear gloves, brush hair, then touch the coat. What's the point of gloves?
I notice that too 😅😅
@@mariadaly8654 in my world gloves are to prevent contamination of what so ever. The coat doesn't deserve contamination with oils from the hair however little it maybe. Just requires situational awareness that once you don gloves touch is restricted to the intended object...touching hair is avoidable. Nurses doctors do that all the time and don't touch hair when gloved
It’s not a contamination issue, it’s so that it prevents your hands secretion from deteriorating the already fragile fabric.
Hair contains oils too...
@@alexisjankowski3281 absolutely. In fact hair contains in addition artificial oils. And loads of dead skin cells
George III suffered from porphyria. It would have helped to clarify that at the beginning, so people watching this video would immediately understand why his clothes were so stained. Porphyria is a horrible illness, and he had no relief from it.
There is no real proof of Porphyria. Its more likely to be severe depression,lack of self belief .combined with the effect of his fathers death, treatments he was given, war against the Americans, 2 kids dying in 1 year , death if his grandchild all this pressure for a dutiful man who wasnt upto forfilling the role, made his life unbearable.
But he didn’t suffer from porphyria. That’s been debunked. His symptoms are far more consistent with bipolar disorder.
I always felt bad for mad old George. Can you imagine being that sick and unable to even see your wife or children?
Ikr! Not to mention they tied him to a pole and beat him senseless...poor guy
There's a good chance he wouldn't remember much of anything during a manic phase. I have a friend that was a "late bloomer". She didn't become florid until her mid 20's. I mean she left her husband, took the kid, moved to another state and it wasn't until she was reported at work and ordered to undergo a psych evaluation that she was diagnosed. She says she only remembers snippets of the most mundane things. Like eating lunch or drinking a cup of coffee somewhere.
It tells us quite a lot??? Servants helped dress him and he spilled food on his clothes.
@Raileigh Greene I spill quite a bit of food on myself. Bit of a family joke. One time I went to the State Fair and came home with a bit of every food I'd eaten on my shirt. Now that's a shirt that tells you something!
@Raileigh Greene LOL, you seem to have taken this very personally.
@Raileigh Greene Amen to that LOL
@Raileigh Greene He wouldn't be the only monarch that requested servants to clothe him, shave him or wash him. In mid XX c. some well born people still demanded to be served while clothing as well. About food stains, there are so many possibilities of staining himself, that stating that it's because he was mad is ridiculous. It's wishful thinking, not researching history.
@Monika Well they already knew he was insane in his later years. This just proves it even more
I mean, he was 80 in the 1800's... I'm not surprised his health and mind was a mess.
Many of my relatives were that age in the 1800 s and they didnt have his money or doctors!
He suffered his first bout at 50 though in 1788.
He was in his 60s.
His life was so tragic in the end, the so called ‘treatments’ he was put through for his ‘madness’ were barbaric forms of torture which only ever worsened his issues, what the man experienced is heart wrenching and those who were supposed to help him, made him endure sickeningly vile things. I hope he is at peace now that poor, poor man.
They always give the reenactors the worst wigs and terrible cues.
Foot stains on the front? He must have been very hard to control.
Yeh. No matter how dainty i try to be, taco bell still as its way:/
Foot stains huh...?
FOOD
He was an elderly man with an obvious dementia related illness. I dont have dementia and am not as old as George III but I can spill my food ocassionally so that is hardly a sign of madness.
I spill my food to and I'm just sloppy sometimes.
They do have chronicles of the state of the king, you know . These is just some evidence for the audience to realize how bad it was ..
He suffered his first bout in 1788 when he was 50, so i doubt its dementia. Especially since he recovered in 1788. You don’t really recover from dementia.
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Well, there's so much competing evidence and the royal family did all in their power to cover it up for obvious reasons. What isn't made clear is that he suffered from this to one degree or another his entire life. So it wasn't just a "one off" for him. What I find interesting is that he had enough people close to him propping him up during the bad times and worthy of a book or movie. As you may know, these episodes can last weeks, months, perhaps years.
Omg she touched her hair with her glove... defeats the purpose of the glove
I think they are protecting it from touch and not the environment . If that would be the case the would had open it in an special chamber.
never give a woman a responsible job
@@dotdashdotdash Are you saying that woman aren't capable of taking care of important jobs?
Not really. The glove is probably designed to protect the waistcoat. If it was to prevent infection then it's not really a big deal because she's probably not going to be putting her hair in her mouth.
@@lil_orbits2658 They aren't.
I would love to see more of these old clothes. I think it's so fascinating.
Oh my goodness...don't let them look at my shirt! 🤣
Ikr. They’ll be like “SHES BLEEDIN MAD! LOCK HER UP!”
Watch “The madness of king George”, excellent film with Helen Mirren and Nigel Hawthorne.
Bob Courtier one of my favorites.
He had porphyria, possibly age-related dementia, highly toxic "medicine", and no real care to help him 😢
Iahel Cathartes Aura The dementia may have come into it in his last bout of illness, I think during his first proper doubt in 1788 it may have been something different as he was only 50. The doctors likely made things worse rather than better, or at least during his first bout he got better in spite of the doctors not because of them.
You can feel his pain through his clothes. His suffering was horrific. A reminder that even monarchs fall foul to sickness.
And what they did to 'treat' him! OMG!
Says "foot stains" in the description. Expecting an interesting story of him trying to kick himself or something crazy, nope just a dribbler and food stains.
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If he wore the white makeup that was popular, it had high amounts of lead in it. They also used mercury, arsenic and a number of other poisons to treat illnesses back then. Did he have syphilis? That would account for the dribbling and "madness".
He neither wore makeup - he was well known for his ruddy complexion, nor had syphilis and was famous for being faithful to his wife.
it must be so incredible to be able to see and touch something that came from the early 19th century....
There’s something kind of funny about a king being insane, but it’s still very sad to think about the individual. It must have been so confusing and frightening 24/7 for him.
I feel so sorry for his wife, Charlotte dealing with her husband's sickness and difficulties she was the mother of fifteen but only 13 made it to adulthood so I feel bad because that his family his wife, his children and himself had to go through that
Strange to realize that none of the current royals are descended from George III. None of these specific genetic traits were handed down to successive generations and you will never see a genetic test proving descent from him in any current royal. There was a genetic break somewhere between his sons and King Edward VII.
Actually, the current Queen Elizabeth II is descended from two granddaughters of George III - Queen Victoria (through her father Prince Edward, Duke of Kent thru her to Edward VII to George V to Edward VIII) and
Princess Marie Adelaide (through her father Price Adelphous, Duke of Cambridge thru her to her daughter Queen Mary to Edward VIII).
Porphyria is thought to have affected Prince William of Kent.
@@erinobrien8793 Elizabeth II is the daughter of George VI, Edward VIII's brother, not the daughter of Edward VIII.
You are not correct about the genetic break. All the current British royals descended from Queen Victoria are direct descendants of George III. The Duke of Kent was George III's 4th son and there is evidence the Duke of Kent also had porphyria, although not an advanced case.
The hemophilia from Queen Victoria spread to almost all of her children, and thus spread to the main royal families in Europe.
Some people thought Victoria had the “crazy gene” from her grandfather George III cause of her anger.
So the docent touches her hair with those white gloves, immediately transferring oil from her hair (not to mention the hair care product residue) to the glove and then touches the acid free tissue and the waistcoat. WHY isn't her hair tied back???
That girl is so pretty and I love her accent😍
I thought this was going to be about how the waistcoat had some type of poison in it.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if poisons were detected. A lot of the medicines of that time were made from poisons like mercury and arsenic.
Dang I hope they don’t get a hold of my wardrobe, they’d institutionalize me.
Ikr. These ladies would have me sent to the Waterford !
I came for the foot stains promised in the description and I am deeply disappointed.
He wasn’t mad... he was old and not taken care of...
Do you really think they would mistreat the king of England
@oceiliss you meant modern doctors? He was obviously given the best care and treatment for his time and more important his status. I don't think you quite understand the importance of the health and vigor of a monarch, it was to a extent the reflection of the kingdom AND the continuation of the monarchical system.
Since most of the duties of the king were ceremonial it must had been agonizing to try to conceal his true state to the public.
King In Prussia that story of him talking to a tree thinking it was the king of Prussia is a fable, it’s the British equivalent of George Washington and his cherry tree.
I'm fairly sure that one stain is popeye's hot sauce. I have similar stain on my pirate shirt.
Random Fibers Aye Matey! 😉
Porphyria was what made him ill, the doctors 'treatment' was what made him mad, a very tragic end for a very clever and by all accounts good man.
Bro went fully Ozzy and couldn't cope.
Such a sad fate. May he have peace.
When I was scrolling through youtube I saw this video I seriously thought it was a giant raw chicken until read the title lol.
I love this channel 🏆
Finally someone is wearing GLOVES!!!
He did have moments of clarity though. It’s all very tragic.
Show us everything else in the boxes behind ya
My bed is currently covered in takeaway curry stains. Guess I’m mad too!
Bobby Bobster yes.... why would you eat curry in bed? You nutter 🤣🤣🤣
Bobby Bobster 😱 ....😜
Yeah, you're mad...and a hog.
So like if someone examines my clothes with food stains they’ll diagnose me as being “mad”?
They will have a great time with with my shirts Lol
I like the curator girl...
Oh my poor KG3 had trouble with eating therefore staining his shirt. Ohhhh the humanity!!
RIP KG3 RIP
Fascinating
I was more interested in Isabella than George III's coat!!
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I really enjoyed this video🙃
I wouldn't call it "madness". It was obviously a very severe neurological condition, likely severe dementia (Lewy Body?). I am annoyed and saddened by how all his symptoms are lumped together into the catch-all term "madness", which just means people are afraid of it, don't want to deal with it and want to shove him into a category which becomes part of his "myth".
That was a beautiful waistcoat
I wonder why they'd put an unhealthy man who had trouble with food in a WHITE waistcoat that showed everything?
Isnt it a coincidence that the actor who's playing george III looks like mad king aerys targaryen II
Oh no! I've just noticed tomato juice down the front of my cardigan - I'd best book my place in the mental health care home.
I want to steal Isabela’s style. She’s so pretty ❤️
Would it be calling madness today ? Was it a plan to sabotage him
Jennifer Bates
It was a medical issue or a possible combination of several medical issues, not sabotage.
There's a common misperception that George III suffered from porphyria, but that's largely been dismissed. His symptoms are much more consistent with bipolar disorder.
Reminds of someone I know running America 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Poor man
I feel so sad for king George iii,
We in America also had a demented ruler named George, as of late. In fact, a couple of them.
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@@maryrosekent8223 HW didn't seem "mad" or "demented" to me, and I definitely didn't like him. He did have PTSD, or shell-shock, which being shot down might do to you. No idea if he got better.
Why did I think of Boris Johnson when I saw the actor trying to play the former King
Rob Julian Maghinang he did look like him!!!!! lol
Hmmm... I made a comment, but cannot find it. I may have placed it as a reply on something by accident. My question is, why was the garment not cleaned after he wore it. Did royalty only wear them one time?
Towards the end, I think he had some type of dementia. That poor, poor man.
Rick: I'll be honest I WANT IT..
I'll tell you what, i'll buy it for 2 dollars.
I come here to look at vintage clothing and the history of it but now I'm now losing my focus quickly to Isabella? that lady who explained the whole history of the clothing... Wow this is a weird experience usually this affect takes a while to get like halfway through watching movie this is the quickest one i ever experienced
September 5, 1783 | Kindly asking, why would you take that? I would love that with me in my grave. Give it back to Buckingham House. I am angered from this moving picture. -King George III
Everyone says King George III was a mad man but I haven't seen any valid examples. I think his behavior was over exaggerated for being a royal member.
I just want to point out ghat the description said "foot stains". Not food stains.
That job will drive you nuts
They have an archive of antique royal garments? I wonder if they have a collar worn by Queen Elizabeth among their collection?
No, but some of her underwear is shown at Westminster Abbey. It was originally on her funeral effigy. There is also possibly part of one of her dresses used now as an altar cloth. Look up the Bacton altar cloth.
Sounds more like he had some kind of dementia
Thank you
I babble to myself most days.
Normally hundreds of insults towards my children under my breath.
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Me too
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@@bobsemple7660 yeah so that was a joke
He will send a fully armed batallion
It's not my fault my shirt asked for a taste.
I was expecting something hideous.
I'm not understanding the use of the word "madness" in regard to King George III. I certainly never hear this term used for anyone living at the moment who may have a psychiatric condition.
Possibly because of contemporary writing and the play and later movie called "The Madness of King George."
Did people use led back then?
That just needs a good Dry Clean.
When I eat a juicy burger I get droppings and dribblings too and I'm not mad
Or are you???
@@candie1230 lol I suppose I am
Why does nobody talk about the strange behaviors of Mary of Scotland & JamesI of England?
Probably because they aren't as well known. As a descendant of the Stewart family I have written about them. James I had several strokes and his pulse was regularly irregular. Mary Queen of Scots had a delusional disorder. It came out again in her descendant Diana, Princess of Wales.
Maybe because that's not the subject of the video?
I don't think they explained that good at all.
He sent a fully armed batallion to remind us of his love.
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The real life King George III never said that.
@@lordjazoijua94 No he didn't. Hamilton is fiction.
If that was his food..why has it not been tested to prove that belonged to him?
Poor man.
And the current political climate in America gives an indication of their mental state.
Fabulous dress, leather maybe? Awesome
Lovely Isabella ❤
Didn't the Phoenicians dye purple garments with poisonous mulusks? Anyway, wasn't his cousin George (washington) also health complicated? Royal in -breeding?
Um, I create worse stains than this on a regular basis. I'm sure a lot of people's clothing from that era had stains, simply because clothing wasn't as easy to come by and they couldn't just get on Amazon & buy new stuff.
A lot of people on here don't know nothing about mental illness ...
I too cannot wrap my head around the amount of pure ignorance and immaturity in this comment thread!
As a Historian you should still have basic respect, calling him a vegetable is not OK, no matter who you're talking about.
The poor man was poisoned
I watched this to see how he managed to get “foot” stains on his waist coat.. to find out it was food.. 😂 Smithsonian you’re an educational channel... ... food... foot..... important difference
Very interesting
Because of George III's madness, USA was born.
George III's first bout of 'madness' was in 1788, a decade after the American colonies had broken away. His sickness had nothing to do with it.
Sad to see a person go that way , at least to me it is . King or not .