I'm friends with an older manga scholar in Japan and she has said that the pre 1970 shoujo manga is little appreciated even in Japan. This is a nice, quick survey of the earlier shoujo manga, however you ignore the most important mangaka of that era, I believe, Mizuno Hideko. For several manga, but particularly her masterpiece from 1969-1971, Fire! which is just absolutely amazing and the most obvious influence on the Year 24 group of the 70s.
Yeah, someone pointed that out to me as well. It was a big gap in the video and I think I'll mention it in the next one, since, like you mentioned, She influenced Year 24. Thank you for watching!
@@MangaCrash I'm a bit Hideko/Fire! obsessed, so may be biased but from all I've studied of 1960s shoujo, I would say she was the most groundbreaking and important--as you say though it could get a mention as an intro to the Year 24. Anyway, rally liked your video and am checking out your others!
Takahashi Macoto's art gives me a comfy and creepy feeling , the details and colors are so calm and cool It's like those old chocolate boxes , other hand the eyes look dead , but it's actually give a porcelain doll feeling too , it's rollercoster between comfy and creepy
I so love this so informative video 💖💖💖👏👏👏 I grew up with Attack No.1 , Aim for the Ace, Princess Knight Sapphire and Sally the witch, I so love them 💖 My other vintage favourites are Haikara San ga Tooru Candy Candy And Glass Mask 💖💖💖
Thanks for the video, I've recently gotten into collecting manga, and picked up some older shoujo titles out of curiosity so it is helpful to learn a bit about the history. One thing I was curious about though is that you refer to 'Class S' as common in pre-war shoujo manga, but the only early manga I am familiar with that fits the term is Sakura Namiki (and that one is post-war anyway) with it mostly being a term for literature rather than manga. Do you know of any other early examples of manga in the Class S genre?
Hello! The thesis I read for this video names a couple other ones like Otome no minato (1937-1938) and Utsukushii tabi (1939). The name of the thesis is in the description together with other sources, in this case it's: Shamoon, Deborah (2012) "Passionate Friendship: The Aesthetics of Girl Culture in Japan" It's a good read and it goes WAY more in depth into Class S that I did in this video, so if you want to learn more about the topics I talked about here, I definitely recommend it, you'll see it has a big basis for this video! Sadly tho, as far as I can tell, Sakura Namiki is the only one I could find that is translated into English as well.
love this vid, you put so much effort into your research! Just wondering, who's the girl you used in some of your clips with the long brunette hair (the one who was mainly holding a cigarette)? I rlly like the artstyle of it and wanna find the original manga it's from😅
hey nice video. can you please tell me who is the girl with freckles and sometimes a cigarette on the black and white pictures? can't find anything about what manga she is from and I really like the drawing style. :)
Of course! She's Emamon from the manga Memories of Emamon. She's my favourite character and the mascot of the channel! I definitely recomend the manga, its so good and short!
thank you for the informative video! for future essays i hope you can slow down your speaking cadence, because it is very difficult to absorb all the good information you're giving when speaking at such a high speed. i look forward to trying a few more of your videos!
Thank you for the feedback! I've been trying to speak more slowly, as you're not the first person to bring this issue up. But I also do try to add subtitles to most of my videos, which can help if there's anything you didn't understand.
I don't think there's really a place where you can read it. At least definitely not in English. Manga wasn't really that well preserved, so magazines that are well over 100 years old are going to be quite rare by now.
the influx of guy targeted romances or more specifically horny boy romances r to blame. wat we need is more anime adaptions of shojosei romances. hopefully 'bibliophile princess' & 'villainess taming the final boss' turn out alrite
@@mono8476 Yeah, hopefully. I am a dude but I am tired of that escapist garbage like it would be fine if boy romance shows like "My Dress up Darling" had good storytelling and characterization, well earned love, etc..I don't have a problem with any of that. But nah lets drop boobs, pantyflash, weird camera angles and the typical "[Insert male character]-kun" as much as we can so we can now have "plot". Talk about the cheapest and laziest writting ever.
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I'm friends with an older manga scholar in Japan and she has said that the pre 1970 shoujo manga is little appreciated even in Japan. This is a nice, quick survey of the earlier shoujo manga, however you ignore the most important mangaka of that era, I believe, Mizuno Hideko. For several manga, but particularly her masterpiece from 1969-1971, Fire! which is just absolutely amazing and the most obvious influence on the Year 24 group of the 70s.
Yeah, someone pointed that out to me as well. It was a big gap in the video and I think I'll mention it in the next one, since, like you mentioned, She influenced Year 24.
Thank you for watching!
@@MangaCrash I'm a bit Hideko/Fire! obsessed, so may be biased but from all I've studied of 1960s shoujo, I would say she was the most groundbreaking and important--as you say though it could get a mention as an intro to the Year 24. Anyway, rally liked your video and am checking out your others!
@@erichg5949 HI omg have you read fire yourself ??? i really want to read it myself but i have no clue where :'D pls lmk if you do !!
Takahashi Macoto's art gives me a comfy and creepy feeling , the details and colors are so calm and cool It's like those old chocolate boxes , other hand the eyes look dead , but it's actually give a porcelain doll feeling too , it's rollercoster between comfy and creepy
The 1920's manga style was so good looking! I love that style so much!
I’m so tired of the romance isekai that has haunted the romance genre.
I actually havent even read many isekais in general. Kinda end up avoiding them.
Ikr and they sexualise women as well
Honestly isekai is the worst thing to happen to anime. At this point im not even joking anymore, I legitimately think this
@@CheerUp2 agreed
@@CheerUp2 I agree with you on that 100%
I’m glad this style hasn’t died but I really want Shoujo to be more focused on sweet romance and definitely less Isekai or Ecchi stuff
Yeah, I think Shounen is doing ecchi enough that we can keep it out of shoujo!
@@MangaCrash Oh yeah that’s what I meant Shounen romance replaces Shoujo almost nowadays
I can see how much effort and research you put into this
Keep grinding
Thank you!
God the art is SO beautiful it hurts
When video on Josei and Kodomo (clearly the best demographics)
Top 10 Kodomo manga
I so love this so informative video 💖💖💖👏👏👏
I grew up with Attack No.1 , Aim for the Ace, Princess Knight Sapphire and Sally the witch, I so love them 💖
My other vintage favourites are
Haikara San ga Tooru
Candy Candy
And Glass Mask
💖💖💖
Thank you!
Sounds like a great childhood!!
This is interesting. Shoujo for women females would normal have not thought of. Should try it. I can tell very fond of those.
great video, nice expalanation. and thanks for the subtitle, it help me a lot.
Glad it was useful, thank you for watching!
Thanks for the video, I've recently gotten into collecting manga, and picked up some older shoujo titles out of curiosity so it is helpful to learn a bit about the history. One thing I was curious about though is that you refer to 'Class S' as common in pre-war shoujo manga, but the only early manga I am familiar with that fits the term is Sakura Namiki (and that one is post-war anyway) with it mostly being a term for literature rather than manga. Do you know of any other early examples of manga in the Class S genre?
Hello!
The thesis I read for this video names a couple other ones like Otome no minato (1937-1938) and Utsukushii tabi (1939). The name of the thesis is in the description together with other sources, in this case it's:
Shamoon, Deborah (2012) "Passionate Friendship: The Aesthetics of Girl Culture in Japan"
It's a good read and it goes WAY more in depth into Class S that I did in this video, so if you want to learn more about the topics I talked about here, I definitely recommend it, you'll see it has a big basis for this video!
Sadly tho, as far as I can tell, Sakura Namiki is the only one I could find that is translated into English as well.
love this vid, you put so much effort into your research! Just wondering, who's the girl you used in some of your clips with the long brunette hair (the one who was mainly holding a cigarette)? I rlly like the artstyle of it and wanna find the original manga it's from😅
Thank you!!
She's Emanon, from Memories of Emanon. I use her as a mascot of sorts for the channel.
Amazing video bro!
i love this series fam
Thank you! Glad you enjoy them!
Well researched stuff
Thank you!
hey nice video.
can you please tell me who is the girl with freckles and sometimes a cigarette on the black and white pictures? can't find anything about what manga she is from and I really like the drawing style. :)
Of course! She's Emamon from the manga Memories of Emamon.
She's my favourite character and the mascot of the channel!
I definitely recomend the manga, its so good and short!
@@MangaCrash wow thanks for the quick reply!
so much gorgeous art
Interesting video! Btw what is the manga called with the black and white panels and the unique art style that your referring back to?
Hello there! Sorry, I don't know which part you're refering, can you give me a timestamp of when I talk about it?
How many of these are available in English?
Not many at all. Tho, we just got a new edition of Princess Knight recently.
thank you for the informative video! for future essays i hope you can slow down your speaking cadence, because it is very difficult to absorb all the good information you're giving when speaking at such a high speed. i look forward to trying a few more of your videos!
Thank you for the feedback!
I've been trying to speak more slowly, as you're not the first person to bring this issue up. But I also do try to add subtitles to most of my videos, which can help if there's anything you didn't understand.
Beautiful thumbnail :3
Thank you!
I love this
Thank you!
great info
Thank you!
I found u from anilist
Mastercrash right
Yup, thats me!
I'm about to get lost in a whole new rabbit hole, ayup
There are worst rabbit holes to get lost. If you want to read more about the things I talk about here, there's some reads in the description!
Shoujo>>
The world
@@MangaCrash Za Warudo!!!
Who is the Big 3 of Shoujo?
I don't think there's a "Big 3 of Shoujo" really
Have u ever read jibaku shounen hanako kun? I heard it's good and is it really ?
I know what you're talking about, but I haven't read it either yet. Sorry.
Can you add caption
I'm going to try to do that.
Ok, I just did. It was easier than I thought. I'm going to start doing that on my future scripted videos as well.
@@MangaCrash thank you🙏
@@MangaCrash I just watched it now. Captions were really appreciated!
@@korakys Definitely gonna start doing them for scripted videos from here on out!
Pls turn up your volume i can't hear u very well without turning my volume all the way up
Sorry, I'll try to work on it for my next videos. Thanks for the feedback
Where can I read shojo sekai?
I don't think there's really a place where you can read it. At least definitely not in English.
Manga wasn't really that well preserved, so magazines that are well over 100 years old are going to be quite rare by now.
Fairy tales; we're not ment; to be, seen. Nor, heard.🌀🔍
Whats the manga from the thumbnail?
It's "The Little Mermaid and Thumblina" by Makoto Takahashi. Tho note that it isn't a manga, rather it's more of a picture book.
@@MangaCrash interesting thanks
SAILOR MOON!!!!
This is terrible, the industry is literally being ruined by fanservice. The now modern "romance" anime/manga are nothing but horny garbage...
the influx of guy targeted romances or more specifically horny boy romances r to blame.
wat we need is more anime adaptions of shojosei romances.
hopefully 'bibliophile princess' & 'villainess taming the final boss' turn out alrite
@@mono8476 Yeah, hopefully. I am a dude but I am tired of that escapist garbage like it would be fine if boy romance shows like "My Dress up Darling" had good storytelling and characterization, well earned love, etc..I don't have a problem with any of that. But nah lets drop boobs, pantyflash, weird camera angles and the typical "[Insert male character]-kun" as much as we can so we can now have "plot". Talk about the cheapest and laziest writting ever.