Rugby Player QUITS to join the NFL?!
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- OB Daz and OB Aidan react to the Louis Rees-Zammit and his decision to quit rugby to try and go to the NFL.
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There's a player with the Philadelph Eagles, an Offensive Tackle. Jordan Malita, came from Rugby in Australia. He recently signed a huge contract.
Yea but hes a 6'9 guy how put on a bunch of weight. With Louis, You cant put him at receiver because of route running and putting him in the backfield as a running back he's undersize (6'3 under 200lb)and dont know how well he can make his cuts. If a team picks him up I wont be surprised if they only put him on special teams as a return man
He could try to play Division III college football at the most.
Jordan's a rare athletic talent for being a giant of a man. He moves very well in open field, and even still the Eagles took their time and slowly developed him. Not to discredit the intricacies of Line play because the hand fighting, leverage, and etc aspects, are crazy so there's definitely a TON of technique involved, but at the same time the goal can be a lot more straightforward.... "Hey block this guy from sacking the QB". "Hey try to sack the QB" "Hey put your feet in the ground, move this guy, open up a hole for the RB", "Hey don't overplay the QB, try to contain him in the pocket", to simplify it and dumb it down. I think those guys have a better shot than the skill positions like WR, RB, CB, etc... where there's a lot of nuance and Football IQ involved (Again not to call Line, particularly O-Line a low IQ position, because it's not). Point being athleticism is only half the battle. You have to be smart, against other guys who are also smart, who are running like Olympic Sprinters, and also have built up the habits from playing the game their whole life. Only experience can teach you that.
You can watch a video about Mailata on the Eagles official channel that goes into how the international pathway program worked.
@@ericwilliams8420 Just pointed out the fact that a Rugby player has successfully made the transition to football.
I was waiting to hear your thoughts on this one. I wish nothing but the best for the young man and I hope he balls out in his opportunity
That speed is without pads. Whole different game once the helmets gets put on
They only wear shoulder pads nowadays. Not like when they wore knee pads and thigh pads. He will still be fast.
Rugby and American football are like apples and oranges. This whole topic is comical.
@@areguapiri They really don’t get it unless you have actually played the game at any level. American football is the most violent team sport I can think of.
@@strawman6085 American football on the gridiron speed is totally different.
@@Bea-Dubya Yes I sure gravity and wind resistance are totally different on the field.
Not a chance in hell he’d ever be a quarterback
The QB comment was sarcasm 😂
@@officeblokedaz haha I know. He looks to have the build and athleticism to maybe be a receiver. Interested to see how he does though and I’ll be keeping an eye out. Nice to see interest for the NFL from other countries.
@@F28ajhe’s a really good rugby player. Destined for the top without doubt. That’s what makes it interesting to see how he does changing sport. He’s young so can always return to rugby if it doesn’t work out.
@@officeblokedaz yeah and if he does well it opens the door for more athletes to cross over and garner interest for American football in their respective countries. There are already rugby/afl players in the league but none in a high profile skill position that I’m aware of.
@@F28aj we think this guy has a passion for nfl. Let’s see. Hope he’s a star but it’s going to be a tough journey 👍🏻
Rugby hitting and NFL hitting are two totally different beast. I think the first time he meets a NFL level LB while coming across the middle he will sprint back to rugby
I dunno man, international rugby is probably as physical as the NFL these days, plus I don’t think he’s going to be a RB running it up the gut.
Tackling and contact in rugby are completely different from tackling and contact in American football. In rugby, the objective is to get the ball carrier to the ground and get back up as quickly as possible for play to continue. In American football, the objective is to tackle the ball carrier as hard as possible on every play, and to hit the man in front of you as hard as possible "on every play". This young man has never experienced that.
...I don't think Europeans understand the level of skill it takes to be even a good "high school" American football player--- let alone an NFL player!
They think they know, but they don't know.
The International Player Pathway program is a 3 month camp in Fla.
4 NFL teams a yr are given by the league an extra spot on thier practice squad for these International players.
But they also get a "Pro day" in front of NFL scouts in which 2 players have been out right drafted from this program . 2016 Moritz Boehringer Viking & 2019 Jordan Mailata Eagles
And Mailata plays tackle which has no equivalent at all in rugby.
This is the first time I have ever seen Rugby. Where is all the tackling and hard hitting it's so famous for?
Many high school football players in Southern California play in Rugby Leagues during the off season. People out here know the game, it is not totally foreign. But it's different. The blocking aspect of football is only one issue that you can't just learn in training camp at the highest level.
Great content as always guys! You might want to post a video about the NFL International Player Program (IPP). You can even react to some IPP alumni who have made it in the NFL, most notably Jordan Mailata who is also from a rugby background, and Efe Odaba who's from the UK.
Odaba is a marketing ploy, nothing more.
I see a lot of people talking about him playing wide receiver but I think that, with his body type, he could potentially become a very good player at safety. His measurements and weight remind me of hybrid safeties like the Raven's Kyle Hamilton and the Brown's Grant Delpit. Regardless of which position he plays, it's going to be a tough road competing against guys that have been playing this game for their entire lives. I really do hope it works out though, would be very cool to see and will definitely keep following this story.
But you don't just show up and become a safety--you have to understand offensive schemes, read changes in a split second, know how to cover, know how to take angles to defend passes, be able to jump like hell. It's like me saying maybe I will just become a master carpenter. Also, I don't see NFL speed, strength, feet with this young man. What position--receiver? Can he catch an NFL pass? Those aren't laterals, man. And then get hit and retain the ball--they don't tackle in the NFL, they collide. I will him luck and hope he makes some real $$.
@@gregcable3250Where in my comment did I say that it was going to be easy?
@@czb4135 Where in MY comment did I say that you said "it was going to be easy?" Nowhere. He will never be a safety--never, ever. It takes to long to understand the game, read the plays, respond the right way athletically to the plays. There are thousands of better athletes than this guy and none of them would be able to play safety in the NF effing L if they did not play football at least before that, let alone the safety position. Patrick Peterson of the Steelers is transitioning to safety this past year to extend his career and even this HoF cornerback with over ten years in the NFL after playing the games is whole life is having a helluva time doing it. So I am now saying that not only would it not be easy, he will never be a successful safety. Ever. Might have a shot at RB, but even then, he will have a helluva time learning how to run that way--not upright as he does now (and he is 6'3" 212, which is tall and slight for this height). And he has never had to block. So, I have my doubts about where he would play. Somebody said QB, which is the most ridiculous of all.
Rugby players run into a big problem when they try for WR or RB, the playbook!
Rugby is checkers.. American Football is chess !
did i just hear that announcer say "step on the gas"? GAS BRITS!?!?
STEP ON THE PETROL!! 🤣
At his build he’s only gonna able to be a punter or receiver. Gunner on special teams. Truly will depend on how much feel he has at route running and his hands. Some guys just get it and some don’t. If his measurables are that impressive he’ll get his shot. Mailata is the prime example
He can bulk up
That dude is going to be in for the schock of his life.
Exactly. He isn't even making the Canadian league..
@@BriBryBriBry He will be in NFL.
I can definitely see him as a running back
Maybe in the canadian league
The underrated aspect beyond the Athleticism, and Football IQ is the blocking. I've heard from Rugby players that it's an adjustment dealing with the fact that someone can actively body you up off the ball.
Imagine a super athletic kicker who's super quick, i could see that being a weapon we havnt really ever seen.
He has never been hit by a linebacker yet.. The NFL is a whole different animal.
Rugby players deal with worse mate, nfl doesn't compare
@@ruairidoyle4613 This is just from a few games.. This happens in every game.... You think you know, but YOU don't know !!
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@@ruairidoyle4613you must be joking why do you think NFL players wears protective gear because of the impact of tacking mostly foot ball concept is about tackling you don't even know what your talking about
@@ruairidoyle4613What a ignorant statement.
NFL hitting only different cuz of pads and helmet. Like boxing gloves and bare knuckle
I`m glad he`s following his dream .If he develops enough he`d be a Bill Bellicek type player that could be used at multiple positions depending on his skill set(s) . FOLLOW YOUR DREAM YOUNG MAN ! Most commenters in here are just armchair evalulaters .
Most rugby players become kickers or punters. 6'3" 194 pounds. He currently doesn't have the build to be a positional player, he'd have to put on more muscle. Even if he does put on the muscle it's a slim chance that he'd be anything more than a special teams player. It takes many years of playing to develop not just the skills but the instincts for football (for any sport).
It'd be like if Tyreek Hill decided he wanted to play professional rugby. Sure he's extremely athletic and has great speed, but he doesn't know the sport and all the little nuances, he hasn't been developing rugby skills since he was a kid.
This is a little different, id imagine if hes always wanted to play in the NFL, that he is very familiar with it. I could see him as a great slot receiver, similar to Edelman or welker. He looks to have great hands, and with that speed, i could see it working. Or he can be a weapon as a kicker, id imagine a lot of fakes could be possible with his dual ability.
@@donny_clevOH42oEdelman and Welker grew up playing American football since they were little kids. HUGE difference.
@@areguapiri He is a professional elite athlete, with good hands, and great speed, running routes and catching a football is very teachable, considering hes been catching his whole life as well, with hard contact. Also, Mason Cox, born and raised in America, who is one of the BEST players in the Australian Rules Football League, a totally different sport than anything in America, Mason never HEARD of Australian Rules until 2 years before his rookie season. He learned a whole new sport, and became one of the best at it, at its highest level, on one of the best teams, and is much more violent than NFL. We will see though.
@@donny_clevOH42o gayfl is not more violently than the nfl not even remotely close. agree with the rest tho
@@hciuahwuiwa Just like the NFL, the AFL has increased safety rules drastically over the last decade or so, neither are AS violent as they used to be, still tons of similar injuries in both. Obviously they are very different, both have high speed collisions in both, and i love the jumping on the opponent's shoulders to get a mark in AFL. Too each their own though. Im addicted to all sports, literally, i find myself even watching Cricket lol
It’s harder sport than people think. The pads don’t stop much! React to more nfl highlights
Yeah, I don't think he would even make a practice squad.. Hope i'm wrong though.
"Speed is a superpower" -- wish him well and look forward to see him at pro day
He could be a running back
In D-III college football maybe.
He isn't even making a Canadian football team. I guarantee it.
Running back or punter, those are his only shot. And realistically only punter. A running back isn't just take the ball and go, you need to understand blocking schemes, defenses, you need to be able to pass block (or you're a liability) as well. You also need to be able to catch, at least a little and that requires an understanding of routes and of course good hands. Getting used to pads also has a learning curve. To make it as anything other than a punter (which is also really hard, but has been done before) would be insanely impressive. I don't if he has any history with the sport, but it's not something you learn in an off season.
Mailata learned to be OT
His best chance would be making it as a wide receiver since that will be the easiest position for him of his frame to learn or on special teams as a gunner or a kick returner 👍 wish him the best of luck! He does look fast💨
Imagine devin hester in this sport...
He gas after first tackle plus can he tackle anyone?
@MbisonBalrog lol u right forgot about the other end of the sport. He can adapt, but realistically see him getting ran over easily
Never heard of him, best of luck to him. Going to be alot of work if he’s not kicking.
Going to be "impossible".
@@areguapiriisnt one of the eagles lineman from rugby
@@thomaszach43 ....none before Maliata and none after. Also, look up Maliata's transition. Much more foreseeable than this guy's.
He could possibly play slotback in some offenses. Definite kick or punt returner (yes they are specialists). Daz is right about his frame not being up to NFL standards but that can be remedied. OB Aidan brought up a good rebuttal with the rare case of someone who weighs 176 and still plays in the league. The average NFL career is just a little over 3 years a it is so if he's going to switch he needs to do it soon! Cheers you two. Scott L Ritchie
Slot back in D-III college football maybe.
His build fine for WR
I will preface my comments with some knowledge of the sport. I played football for 8 years. Your first instinct was the closest to something he could transition to seamlessly, a returner. Theres not a lot of football nuance to being a returner. I have a hard time seeing him play on the defensive side of the ball. Wide receiver is probably the easiest position for him to pick up. Its not gonna be easy for him. It will be interesting to follow nonetheless.
By the way, running with pads is a lot different than running with shorts. Tyreek was clocked running that speed with pads on. It is not common for anyone to run the same speed with pads on than without them. It will slow you down much more than you think.
He has never caught a pass in his life. How will that be easier for him? And he has never been popped like he will as a returner. He should try D-III college football.
@@areguapiriYou realize the sport he plays now asks him to catch a ball right. All he has to do is learn 9 routes. Its by far, the easiest position to learn. It's not rocket science, pal.
@@dennislopez1272...What sport does he play now requires him to catch hard, sharp passes from another player after running routes with a defenders surrounding him? Please let us know.
@@areguapiri I played the game and coached. It is the easiest position to play. It ain't close either. If you think it's an impossible thing to pick up then I can't help you, Champ.
@@dennislopez1272...
No way you can help me with anything believing this young man has a chance of being an NFL player.
To make more money in Rugby they should put sponsors names on field
I can see him as a punt/kick returner. WR is a skill position.. Those WR have been developing their skills since kids. Running routes and catching the ball at speed isn’t as easy as it looks. The play book will be a huge learning curve.
While I agree and that was my first reaction as well let's not act like most of these college kids know how to run routes either lol.
@@A_Name_ , he’ll just be another fast kid in a sea of fast kids. That’s way the odds of making it to the NFL is insanely small.
@@DjangoHTine my point wasn't he will make it in the NFL, give him almost no shot outside hanging around on a practice squad for a couple years with that roster exemption.y point was 99 percent of college wrs can't run routes by NFL standards either.
Heck, American football derives from rugby. I think the transition from American football to rugby would be “easier”.
@@A_Name_...99.99% of international rugby players cannot run routes by American high school or college standards.
The kid would be making over 200K a year just being signed onto an NFL team's practice squad.
club rugby he will be lucky to earn couple £100k going NFL he will earn millions just being on the practice team never mind making the team.
If he does play for the NFL. I hope he accidentally does this kick the ball and dive on it in the end zone thing once. Just confuse everyone in the crowd for fun. I’m not even sure what the penalty call would be. Fumble?
Yeah he can make it for sure if he trains.
Its a different sport with a different set of endurance requirements.
His first 'hospital pass' will tell the story. We'll see what his attitude is after a saftey demolishes him.
Don't even think he would make a practice squad in the NFL...
Maybe a punter. No chance at being a QB, Wide Receiver or Tight End. Maybe..and just maybe he could try at Tailback but he'd have to put on some size. Not sure on his speed as the guys he is playing against don't look NFL caliber in speed. It'd be a stretch to think he could make a 53 man roster with the talent that is currently out there. Maybe the new United Football League he'd have a small chance.
His speed is quicker than tyreek hill. There’s no doubting his speed, rugby players can be very quick. Don’t discount that bit. It’s going to be a heavy challenge for him but he’s giving it a go so I hope he smashes the opportunity 👍🏻
Maybe D-III college football.
@@officeblokedazBack in the 80s the San Francisco 49ers gave a world class hurdler a chance. Look up Renaldo Nehemiah. He played 3 seasons and was replaced by a slower but bigger guy. Maybe you've heard of Jerry Rice.
I'm thinking his best position would probably be off ball linebacker. He's a bit too tall for RB (not saying it can't be done), and WR and corner require so much skill that I don't think his athleticism alone would translate. But with enough patience in the weight room and film room he'd be an interesting prospect to play in space on defense. Seems to have the frame and athleticism to cover TEs and bigger slot receivers, and if he can get his tackling down he might be able to carve out an early role on special teams, which could give him the type of value needed to at least make a team and try and develop from there.
I get the appeal of seeing him as a WR, though. At least physically. And maybe he could learn to catch/block a little and turn into a TE. The issue with WR is that a lot of great athletes come and go at that position because they lack the route-running, catching, etc.. to really be great. Similar with corner...finding athletes at the position isn't as hard as finding the athletes who are also extremely skilled.
Either way I'll be rooting for this guy. Love the channel and how passionate you guys are for the sport. I know Daz has been a fan for a while, but I'm surprised how much Aiden has picked up just since starting this channel. Keep up the good work! (...and apologies for the long comment!)
WR can be picked up quick.
@@MbisonBalrog respectfully, that couldn't be further from the truth. The draft is full of elite athletes who've been playing WR for years...there's a reason only a handful end up refining their skills enough to have lasting NFL careers. Having reliable hands is hard enough, and that's probably the easiest part for a non-WR to pick up. Route running, beating press, ball tracking, high-pointing the ball, making guys miss after the catch...it's one of the most technical positions in football. Hence why it's one of the highest paid.
@@MichaelCouture87 all that can be picked up quick one of biggest reasons not everyone makes it is can’t keep out of trouble from the law.
@@MbisonBalrog what a weird and uninformed comment.
@@MichaelCouture87 WR is not hard pick up. Chris Hogan for example played lacrosse in college.
Could be an interesting gadget player in NFL
Goodluck to him but to say i have my doubts is a total understatement. One of my biggest questions is what position? Gotta have insane hands to play wr, needs to be bigger to play TE, maybe safety? Doesnt look like hed be good in the NFL but if the right coach gets him, who knows.
Again, maybe D-III level college football is worth a try for him.
if im coach.... right this second. although none of those highlights were tackles.... if he is 6'3 and 220, im putting him at outside line backer to get to those running backs with his speed or be in coverage to make a pick and run it back .or make him a big safety. on offense possibly a running back, but hes tall. starting from a stop and getting to full speed with the line and defense coming at you would take longer for a 6'3 guy, where someone small like tyreke hill can get to his top speed and change direction quicker with shorter legs, but slower compared to a guy with long strides once he gets going in an open field. kinda shows why tyreke would always challenge usain bolt to a 40 meter dash..... of course never the 100. he thinks he can pace with usain for the first 30/40 meters but then its over from there.
Outside corner is his best chance of making it in the NFL with his height and speed compared to the league avg of 5ft11 193lbs IMO
The most difficult position to play in American football? You're kidding, right?
We're loosing everybody to France atm, due to wage difference over there (rightly so)... if this switch works through the pathway programme and Zammit blows up! I can see rugby players switching, because of the money! The RFU premiership league needs to find a way to keep youngsters wanting to play in the UK or we're going to loose our best athletes for the sport. I love Rugby but leaving for better pay is totally understandable!
What are pay scales for Top 14 and Gallaghers?
He is quite small for a TE, and not sure about RB either. Seems to be all attack and field intelligent which would make more sence for WR, although I'm not sure the speed is there to keep up and the height to out jump the defense. However with the right team and gameplay, he could be a great utiility player that could shine in special teams or offensive special plays. Clearly has the grit and will to do great things, and I will now be paying attention! Cheers!
You think Chris Hogan that fast
He’s probably gonna be a WR
Guy is 6’3” 216 pounds. Bigger than I thought from the video. Perfect size for a QB but that’s out of the question. Maybe receiver.
Maybe receiver for a high school team.
@@areguapiri I mean he’s a long shot no matter what. I’m trying to stay positive over here.
NFL league minimum for players on the 53 man roster is $705,000 per season
It would be like a 6'3 NFL WR trying to become a Prem keeper - size is there, but he won't have a clue how to read and react at that level.
I’d imagine a 6’3 WR would be alright in goal. Just need to be able to kick and throw. 👍🏻
You never know
Let him try. We'll find out if he has what it takes to play in an NFL game.
Better chance at playing in a D-III college football game.
He would have to put on some muscle. Football players are more muscular because they don't run as much as a rugby player. Football is played in short spurts with player substitutions where in rugby is continuous running. Hard to stay bulky
He has the athleticism but it'll depend on what his football iq is and his instinct for the game more than anything I think.
I wonder if he is still as fast as hill once he puts on 20lbs of gear?
He will need to gain 15 to 20% more muscle mass tho and still stay quick
He can bulk up, no problem
Can he handle the contact or physicality? Rugby contact is not American football contact.
Usually plays constantly for 80 mins with no stoppages. His position in rugby is one that gets hit regularly at speed. It will be an interesting transition to watch as this is probably the first elite rugby player to see how he does.
@@officeblokedaz Thanks, I get it. The continuous play and even his position however, punching bare knuckle is different from getting hit with gloves. Getting hit with gloves is much harder and being tackled with American football equipment is more violent and impactful. Trust me on that.
I hope Youngblood gets his opportunity to follow his dreams. Position wise, punter. “Skill positions” take years of development. Remember, like you guys with soccer, we start at 6, 7, 8 years then Junior High, High School, Community College, Recreation Leagues, AAU, etc. And of the thousands of college players only a handful have an opportunity to make an NFL roster per year.
@@Bea-Dubya...That's the reality that they do not understand .
If he can throw a football. And QB
He’s got a lot of work to do..
O Rly? Could be interesting
zero, absolutely zero chance he's faster than tyreek. for the 100m sprint Tyreek =10.19, Louis =10.44...thats not even close. Getting up to speed is far more important than top speed. check out Jarryd Hayne, he attempted the same jump, but he was a NRL player not Union, I think he lasted 3 seasons with the 49ers.
He never really did anything with the 49ers. They kept him around for the publicity.
0.25 difference and wind assisted but that’s not even close 😂😂. Cmon man! 😂
hand timed 10.44 is a bigger assist to time than 1.7 mph wind assistance, of which Louis unofficial time does not state wind since his hand timed run was unofficial. Every .07 seconds is about a meter in difference
Kicking seems to be a strength of his, which will be of no use to him in football
He’s a winger in rugby. Doesn’t kick for any distance more for positional advantage. Small chip type plays or a through pass to himself. I wouldn’t say it’s a strength as most players in rugby do this. 👍🏻
He could put on 15 lbs and be a tight end easy.
lol....The man has never blocked or caught a pass in his life. "You" would have a better chance of making it in the NFL!
At his size he’ll play WR or nothing.
I'd say RB or WR . Position that it's possible to only focus on what you have to do .
CB/saftey no way . The secondary has to work as one unit all knowing what the others are doing. Same with TE . Needs to work with the OL ..
Learning such specific techniques and terminology will not be easy at this level. It took 21yr old Aussie rugby player Jordan Mailata 3yrs of training to see the field.
He is such a good player,nothing but touchdowns, he is a great player. Plus dragons. Millions of Welsh men will soon swell the ranks of nfl and America will dominate the world.
Rugby is a very simple game, but I have confidence even a Welshman could learn enough to be a superb player.
He maybe could try to play D-III college football.
Hope this kid makes it, but if he is going to play a skill position, he is way too upright/stiff. The difference between these two sports is that. He is going to get killed because he can't juke a 6'4 260npound linebacker. Straight line speed is great, but when guys like that just run, they get murdered. Again, I hope he makes it, but I bet he gets destroyed and goes back.
It's going to be a rude, painful awakening for him.
I’m sorry but he’s not going to make it in the NFL. If he tries for a skill position like WR or RB no way he will have the skill level to run routes with NFL DB or heads up with LBs and I’m sure he doesn’t have NFL level hands either. his best chance would be CB or SS, but do you see him running with and stopping Justin Jefferson, or even Kelse. I’m sorry I just don’t see how someone with no American football experience think they can just tryout and play in the NFL because he is fast. Shit every college sprinter would do it after college
Jarryd Hayne 2.0
There is no way he would play quarterback and wide receiver would be a stretch. It takes years to develop the skill set especially qb. Tv but he better live in the gym over the summer
He has a chance. Other rugby players have made the transition when they have freakish athleticism. Jordan Mailata is an NFL starter. He's incredibly agile for his size. Louis has incredible speed. He has a good chance on special teams. He'll definitely get a chance at returning punts. His skills translate to the NFL.
Its not just physical, cats needs to know nuances and details of game. He is going against cats that have been playing since little kids. Speed, size, and quickness are a dime a dozen.
Exactly.
You’re right but this kid isn’t coming fresh off the street. He’s been playing world test rugby for a few years against some of the world’s best. He played in the World Cup. It’s a totally different sport as is boxing and UFC but I saw fury didn’t have it easy against Francis Ngannou. Let’s see. It will be interesting to watch the transition. He could always return to rugby as he’s very young. 👍🏻
@@officeblokedaz He has athleticism/speed to play special teams. But wide receiver/running back/safety etc. there is a learning curve that would be literally impossible to play at NFL level. Many great athletes that play college football get cut due to not learning plays/performing mentally. Please follow up on this story as it unfolds ! Love your channel !
Probably a practice squad player at best. I wish him luck.