Absolutely stunning module! I have to say that not only is the video informative in terms of how the module works, but it is a fantastic explanation of compression and how it is implemented!!! Cannot wait to get my hands on this one.
Super useful module and video. Instruo videos are always helpful in understanding what’s going on in the module. Awesome approach in hardware, as well as in presenting it’s capabilities.
There are a lot of ways to do this with midi, various cables, other stuff. But this is just really simple and powerful for performance without some menus, hexdecimal, or anything else abstracting you away from the machines.
MIDI can be used for replacing the footswitch part, but MIDI does not facilitate amplification, waveshaping, or any other input audio signal processing. And even if you had an analog dynamics processor to perform the threshold detection and envelope generation, MIDI would be too slow to deliver the envelope follower output accurately and smoothly.
Having a lot of fun triggering my system with my instruments thanks to this module. Still struggling a bit so I’ll be rewatching this religiously for a while…
This video has confirmed an idea I have had about integrating a electronic drum kit into a eurorack case for composing and sound design! I was wondering, could a midi signal from a drum trigger, or an audio cable from the back of a roland V-Drums brain, be used in place of the pedal switches to create gate/trigger signals or latching/toggling in a Instruo-based eurorack synth? Thanks for your time.
This can actually be done without the brain. With the larachd in particular I have performed with dual zone Roland pads connected directly 1/4" TRS to 3.5mm TRS into the stereo line input. Envelope followers can then be used to derive analogue gate/trigger/envelope signals from the raw impulses. Larachd has appropriate buffering and over voltage protection that it can safely buffer the raw piezo signal from pads. This bypasses midi which would be an alternate option, but both adds more complexity as well as timing inaccuracy and latency. I would highly recommend keeping it analogue :)
@@instruo Cool! I've been heavily leaning towards the keep it analogue option. But just to be sure I understand you, when you say "keeping it analogue", do you mean using the audio output(s) of the brain to trigger an envelope follower? and not just the raw impulse from a pad? I've never been much into midi and anyway i think it would be at least 15 milliseconds slower than using audio to trigger an envelope follower. (From what i have read).
@@instruo Ok thats great. I just want to be 100% sure if those raw impulses can be patched into both the line input and the pedal input safely and effectively too?
@@Pspiralifemusicandedu The pedal input is specifically for dual footswitch pedals. NOT for audio/trigger signals. The line input circuit has overvoltage protection, and I have have personally used it with a selection of pads and triggers with no issues. But I haven't used every brand of pad/trigger that exists, so I'm hesitant to answer with absolution. Contact mics and pads/triggers *should* all work plug and play :)
Hello again :) I cant seem to confirm online if the v-drums modules' direct outs are line or instrument level outs. I suppose you might know the answer? Thanks.
I would put them in a different category entirely to be honest. Arguably they are the same as contact mics/piezo transducers, but the outputs do seem to vary quite a lot between brands, and I don't know for certain how spec might differ. I don't know how close they would technically be to piezo based instrument signals... but it's a thing that you hit! so I would assume the average peak to peak signals will be considerably higher. I have a collection of triggers/pads that I have tested with which I measured the signal amplitudes of, and have thoroughly tested at the larachd line input buffer (which I know has over voltage protection).
You sound like a young version of Ivor Cutler, I hope you know him and don't take offence. I do like your modules, I have just built a Behringer system 100 and looking for something that is generative for ambient stuff as well as late 70s early 80s stuff. Keep on keeping on as Bobby G from Primal Scream often says 🙂
You can indeed! The impedance is optimised for line input, but depending on the instrument and how “hot” the pickup is it can work plug and play very nicely!
It’s simply a passive momentary foot controller. We’re producing them specifically to ship with the làrachd module for convenience, but any similar TRS connected controller should work equally well. Expression pedals are different. They generally use TRS to connect to the ends and wiper of a potentiometer.
Do you have a particular context in mind? The line to modular could be used to bring line level/headphone output audio up to modular amplitudes. These signals could be used within the modular system and could also generate CV signals via the envelope follower as well as gate/triggers from amplitude spikes.
@@instruo thanks for the reply! I have a Minimoog Voyager that I'd like to incorporate to my modular system and as I have the WMD Performance Mixer in rack with DB25 (from which I record multitracks into my computer) it's easier if can get the Voyager up to Eurorack levels. Not sure if your module is overkill for what I'm after but it seems like the envelope follower and enhancer would be useful as well in sculpting sounds and triggering things in rack based off the signal coming in from the Moog. I would also like to use it to bring outputs from my audio interface (for example, tracks in Ableton) up to eurorack level to run them through some of my modules. Sorry for the long reply! I know I could buy something more basic, but as your module does a lot more than a normal input module and is only about €100 more, if it would work well for these functions I'd most likely pick one up!
I think the làrachd might suit your needs based on what you describe. It will certainly bring your Voyager up to modular levels (either mono or stereo). If that level boost is your primary requirement then you are also adding the enhance circuit, env follower and foot controller to your arsenal. Envelope followers in particular are super useful! It always surprises me at this stage how often I use a làrachd in a system in ways I wouldn’t have anticipated!
@@instruo Cheers mate I'll grab one, sure it'll look lovely next to my Arbhar! And yeah, envelope followers are a seriously undervalued function but I guess it's cos there are many sexier things knocking about! Thanks for the replies, looking forward to the new FX module you've been teasing. Regards from Barcelona!
The lack of a "latch" switch/option for the pedal input seems like a big oversight. It would nice to be able to use the pedal as a momentary switch to toggle the state of the gate.
I use it in precisely the way you describe! :) I didn’t include a switch on the larachd because I designed it more as the control mechanism for such a patch. Including a switch on board would have required 2 or 3 more jacks. And I can patch it as a momentary switch to toggle a latching switch anyway exactly as you describe. My Tain module can be defined as momentary or latching for this use case.
I got so excited i started watching the Larachd & Cuir videos simultaneously! need to slow down, but thank you guys for making these!
😂
The larachd is a much deeper dive :)
Only so much I could do to demonstrate an output module for the cuir vid. But I tried to keep it informative!
@@instruo your demonstrations are always a great watch.
Absolutely stunning module! I have to say that not only is the video informative in terms of how the module works, but it is a fantastic explanation of compression and how it is implemented!!! Cannot wait to get my hands on this one.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and passion. Your modules are helping me pursue music in lots of useful new ways.
Hello, I love your work. This module no exception.
Powerful module and great demoing.Basslines around 45 mins phenomenal.
Super useful module and video. Instruo videos are always helpful in understanding what’s going on in the module. Awesome approach in hardware, as well as in presenting it’s capabilities.
Just got this module and it has really opened up my patching. And props for the gated sample and hold pulse wave trick at the end, very clever!
Very clever module. Will be great for acoustic/electroacoustic inputs.
Nice fills man, didn't know you drum.
Also, beautiful module, always love me some Instruo.
And there it goes, right up my wishlist.
amazing 🤩 looking so much forward to it
There are a lot of ways to do this with midi, various cables, other stuff. But this is just really simple and powerful for performance without some menus, hexdecimal, or anything else abstracting you away from the machines.
MIDI can be used for replacing the footswitch part, but MIDI does not facilitate amplification, waveshaping, or any other input audio signal processing. And even if you had an analog dynamics processor to perform the threshold detection and envelope generation, MIDI would be too slow to deliver the envelope follower output accurately and smoothly.
Really great demo!
Well done, sir!
Having a lot of fun triggering my system with my instruments thanks to this module.
Still struggling a bit so I’ll be rewatching this religiously for a while…
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out :)
Awesome
This video has confirmed an idea I have had about integrating a electronic drum kit into a eurorack case for composing and sound design!
I was wondering, could a midi signal from a drum trigger, or an audio cable from the back of a roland V-Drums brain, be used in place of the pedal switches to create gate/trigger signals or latching/toggling in a Instruo-based eurorack synth?
Thanks for your time.
This can actually be done without the brain.
With the larachd in particular I have performed with dual zone Roland pads connected directly 1/4" TRS to 3.5mm TRS into the stereo line input.
Envelope followers can then be used to derive analogue gate/trigger/envelope signals from the raw impulses.
Larachd has appropriate buffering and over voltage protection that it can safely buffer the raw piezo signal from pads.
This bypasses midi which would be an alternate option, but both adds more complexity as well as timing inaccuracy and latency.
I would highly recommend keeping it analogue :)
@@instruo Cool!
I've been heavily leaning towards the keep it analogue option.
But just to be sure I understand you, when you say "keeping it analogue", do you mean using the audio output(s) of the brain to trigger an envelope follower? and not just the raw impulse from a pad?
I've never been much into midi and anyway i think it would be at least 15 milliseconds slower than using audio to trigger an envelope follower. (From what i have read).
@ no brain needed :)
I hook the pad straight to the modular then it’s instantaneous triggers!
@@instruo Ok thats great. I just want to be 100% sure if those raw impulses can be patched into both the line input and the pedal input safely and effectively too?
@@Pspiralifemusicandedu The pedal input is specifically for dual footswitch pedals. NOT for audio/trigger signals.
The line input circuit has overvoltage protection, and I have have personally used it with a selection of pads and triggers with no issues. But I haven't used every brand of pad/trigger that exists, so I'm hesitant to answer with absolution.
Contact mics and pads/triggers *should* all work plug and play :)
Hello again :) I cant seem to confirm online if the v-drums modules' direct outs are line or instrument level outs. I suppose you might know the answer?
Thanks.
I would put them in a different category entirely to be honest.
Arguably they are the same as contact mics/piezo transducers, but the outputs do seem to vary quite a lot between brands, and I don't know for certain how spec might differ.
I don't know how close they would technically be to piezo based instrument signals... but it's a thing that you hit! so I would assume the average peak to peak signals will be considerably higher.
I have a collection of triggers/pads that I have tested with which I measured the signal amplitudes of, and have thoroughly tested at the larachd line input buffer (which I know has over voltage protection).
@@instruo Good to know, thanks again. Super helpful as I am considering getting several of these modules.
You sound like a young version of Ivor Cutler, I hope you know him and don't take offence. I do like your modules, I have just built a Behringer system 100 and looking for something that is generative for ambient stuff as well as late 70s early 80s stuff. Keep on keeping on as Bobby G from Primal Scream often says 🙂
In the manual is a patch idea with an electric guitar connected to the stereo input. Can I use a 1/4 inch to 1/8 inch TS cable for that?
You can indeed!
The impedance is optimised for line input, but depending on the instrument and how “hot” the pickup is it can work plug and play very nicely!
Would this module be good to use with a guitar? So plugging in a guitar direct or maybe guitar then a pedal into the input?
Preamp for electric certainly. I'd probably use my yamaha thr thing.
Could I plug a microphone straight into làrachd?
Most likely not.
It would depend on the microphone.
If it natively produces a line level signal then yes :)
A preamp first would be optimal.
i want it ! where can i get it please ? when ?
so exited
Come back.
Im not too familiar with these external controllers, do they have a name? Would expression pedals send similar signals?
It’s simply a passive momentary foot controller. We’re producing them specifically to ship with the làrachd module for convenience, but any similar TRS connected controller should work equally well.
Expression pedals are different. They generally use TRS to connect to the ends and wiper of a potentiometer.
@@instruo Makes sense, thanks!
@40 mins in now I want to see an all in one stereo Instruo Compressor lol
How would it work for external hardware synths?
Do you have a particular context in mind?
The line to modular could be used to bring line level/headphone output audio up to modular amplitudes.
These signals could be used within the modular system and could also generate CV signals via the envelope follower as well as gate/triggers from amplitude spikes.
@@instruo thanks for the reply! I have a Minimoog Voyager that I'd like to incorporate to my modular system and as I have the WMD Performance Mixer in rack with DB25 (from which I record multitracks into my computer) it's easier if can get the Voyager up to Eurorack levels. Not sure if your module is overkill for what I'm after but it seems like the envelope follower and enhancer would be useful as well in sculpting sounds and triggering things in rack based off the signal coming in from the Moog.
I would also like to use it to bring outputs from my audio interface (for example, tracks in Ableton) up to eurorack level to run them through some of my modules.
Sorry for the long reply! I know I could buy something more basic, but as your module does a lot more than a normal input module and is only about €100 more, if it would work well for these functions I'd most likely pick one up!
I think the làrachd might suit your needs based on what you describe.
It will certainly bring your Voyager up to modular levels (either mono or stereo).
If that level boost is your primary requirement then you are also adding the enhance circuit, env follower and foot controller to your arsenal.
Envelope followers in particular are super useful!
It always surprises me at this stage how often I use a làrachd in a system in ways I wouldn’t have anticipated!
@@instruo Cheers mate I'll grab one, sure it'll look lovely next to my Arbhar! And yeah, envelope followers are a seriously undervalued function but I guess it's cos there are many sexier things knocking about! Thanks for the replies, looking forward to the new FX module you've been teasing. Regards from Barcelona!
The lack of a "latch" switch/option for the pedal input seems like a big oversight. It would nice to be able to use the pedal as a momentary switch to toggle the state of the gate.
I use it in precisely the way you describe! :)
I didn’t include a switch on the larachd because I designed it more as the control mechanism for such a patch.
Including a switch on board would have required 2 or 3 more jacks.
And I can patch it as a momentary switch to toggle a latching switch anyway exactly as you describe.
My Tain module can be defined as momentary or latching for this use case.
www.instruomodular.com/product/tain/