hey there do know weather ecoflow uses lithium ion or iron phosphate i am considering gabbing a eco flow river pro but if its lithium ion i'm gonna go with a bluetti as i haven't been able to find the ffpower in canada :)
@@Jasonoid hmm thats a shame wanted to go with eco flow due to there app and the 1.6h full charge but not to sure about lithium ion herd they tend to explode ty for the quick responses btw!
I bought the bibean power station because of your videos and I'm super happy with it. Runs my 12 volt iceco fridge for a solid 40 hours without any charge. And it wall charges in 6.5 hours. I'm super happy with it
Great comparison! Just received my Bibene based off your reviews. Planning on using it in my overland setup with a portable fridge. The size and having the percentage is what ultimately sold me. Plus with the Amazon coupon it came in at $365. Thanks for putting out this extremely helpful content.
Hi Jason, just thought I would update you on my Bibene CN-505 and my Bluetti EB-55. I bought both for the sole purpose of running each one fully charged(100%) to use with my Resmed air sense 10 c-pap machine when I hunt for 2 weeks in the woods. I used the Bibene first and I was able to get 4 1/2 nights with my humidifier turned off. I really like the Bibene's digital screen and it would show me how many watts I was drawing ( I averaged about 5 watts when I inhaled) and was easy to read and I liked what they did by posting the % you had left right under the battery icon. I would of liked to get 5 days out of it but compared to the Bluetti, it wasn't much of a comparison. The Bluetti after the very first night had used up 2 bars on the battery icon and the monitor screen would go out at night so there was no way to tell how many watts I was drawing. I'm in the process of trying to ship the Bluetti back to the MFG because I am completely not satisfied with it's lack of performance. The manual's for both these units don't even tell you how to use them. Hope this helps someone. Gary
The EB55 is one of the best 500wh power stations, it charges much faster, has more outputs, and Bluetti support is great. It does cost a little bit more than the Bibene but there are some advantages to both.
Since I got my Bibene for $310 (online coupon, rewards points, gift card from a return) it comes out to 55 cents/WH for me. That it charges slower doesn't bother me because I have 2 other smaller batteries to use while I charge. Plus I only have a 60w solar panel so I just use it for all 3.
@@MissSweetweets I'm havinf the same dilemma! I plan to travel cross country in my car, with a 12v fridge 30qt, two phones, ipad and laptop, a fan. Are u still finding EB55 suitable for ur needs? Any thoughts on which might be better for my situation? I will have a 200w solar panel. Thanks in advance
Excellent, again. Luv the "party mode" comment. I have purchased many pocket flashlights - they all have the "party mode" - total pain in the neck - I get the high, low settings - I can figure out how to signal if need be.
For me coming from a 65 plus pounder. 80 Ah, AGM lead acid portable set up circa 2015 - all three of the above bring new meaning to the term portable power station. At camp an 8 year old child could easily haul either the Bibene or the EB55. I have the EB 70. Just a word of warning with regards to capacity. At camp recently - with the afternoon temps hovering around 100° F - after a 26 hour period without charging, using only my 12 volt DC truck fridge, the EB 70 was showing a remainder of 21 to 39 percent reserve. The fridge has a Danfoss/SECOP compressor which draws between 30 to 34 watts in its ECO mode after the initial start up period that lasts only a few seconds. In short, my concern is once I see the power station fallen below 40% - I'm looking for a way to recharge. These are in my opinion a good option for weekend campers. The good news in a 75° F indoor environment - I was able to run my truck fridge for 48 hours. After which time, the Bluetti display showed that the remaining charge was below 20%.
Thanks for sharing your experience. You are correct, these batteries aren't perfect large power drains because they can't charge super fast. DIY lifepo4 batteries are much bigger. They charge faster and can run devices longer. I have a super affordable 100ah version in the works. Video in the next couple months.
@@Jasonoid Don't get me wrong, I'm really happy with the size and weight of these mid-sized power stations. I'm just saying to budget at least 400 watt hours of consumption per 24 hour period, if you're running a fridge during the peak of summer. In September, I'll be adding a 100 watt solar panel to my truck canopy, so I should be golden, provided it is not too smokey or cloudy.
Congrats on the new addition! When you have time, here is a hypothetical situation: You have an Iceco JP40 cooler which with the compressor running it draws 30-50W. You live in SE Texas with hot temps and high humidity. You have a Bluetti SP200 and two Rockpals SP003 panels that can be put in parallel. You have backup gas generators in case the power goes out. What would be your choice, either the smaller capacity faster charging EB55, or the larger capacity slower charging EB70? No other significant devices will be powered while the cooler is charging except maybe a 12V fan. I understand there is no “right” answer but wanted to get your thoughts. Thanks for playing 😊
Hmmmmm, I think they might come out with some new power stations soon with dual charging like the EB55, maybe a new EB70 would be worth waiting for, or MAYBE an EB100? Great hypothetical scenario! For now with what is currently available, I would go with the EB55 and just charge it up fast with a generator and solar panel at the same time if needed....OR if someone technically savy I would build a DIY lifepo4 battery and get more bang for the buck /charging speeds up to 600 watts or more hehe. I mention that second option because I will be building a 100ah battery soon and put out a video on my channel. The total price will be very good and will power a fridge for much longer....price should be under $500 for 1300wh of storage
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the response! I came to the same conclusion of the EB55 but wanted a second opinion in case I missed something. I do hope Bluetti comes out with some improvements but I will be looking forward to that DIY video. Thanks again.
@@kriskeilman2087 Hey Kris, I'm currently building a new more simple 100ah build. I'm hoping my video will inspire others to build it. It takes many hours but I think it's worth it because I think it's fun and it does provide much more battery capacity for the cost.
Frankly, I don't think Bluetti tech support or their sales department is very good, so the "established brand name" advantage in this comparison doesn't mean much to me. The Bibene is the "best bang for the buck". I bought the CN505 under the OUKITEL label. Thanks for the great comparison review!
You'll have to let me know how it's different. The screen looks different in the pictures. I have a tear down video plus charging mod I'll post soon, 300 watts now.
@@Jasonoid It is 100% the same. The product pictures on Amazon appear to be from a previous version. You'll note the PDW port is also 45 Watts on the picture, but the version shipped is 60W. Just like Bluetti , you can see the exact same units under different labels. It does seem Bibene sells at a cheaper price than Oukitel but when I bought mine, Bibene was sold out. That being said, its a good unit.
I see the Bibene reviewed all the time and sometimes the ONLY complaint will be the fact that the handle prevents stacking. Does the Bibene stop working when it is laid on its side? Does "stuff" leak out all over the place when it is tipped over? The fan flows front to back so cooling won't be affected. Do the naysayers lack the ability to turn their heads sideways to read the display, occasionally? I don't get it. Mine stacks just fine. As a matter of fact, the surface area of the sides are nearly identical to (actually greater than) the surface area of the top, sans handle. I enjoy your reviews very much, but go outside the box sometimes, it's more interesting.
Another solid review. I don't need anything till the end of the year so I will hold out and see what Black Friday brings. I'm hoping EcoFlow or Jackery switch to LiPO.
I found a clone of the old Rockpals 540 wh for 260 before tax with a coupon. Decided to go ahead and get it as backup for my EB70 during power outages. Surely it will power my dorm fridge, I hope, but I won`t know until it arrives. I think 260 is a fair price for a 50 amp hour 500 cycle battery with a 500w pure sine wave inverter with MPPT charging. I think we`ll be seeing a lot of great deals on lithium ion battery packs as the market rejects them in favor of better battery chemistry. I`ve acquired about 1800 wh of them for about 600 over the past month.
I totally agree, on discount they will be a good deal, as long as they are built decent enough to be safe and not a fire hazard. That's my worry about these off brand cheapo power stations, one bad charge and BOOM!
The battery voltage should recover soon after the large load ends. Most of the voltage drop probably has to do with smaller gauge wires so I'll find that out when I tear it down. When I tested the 12v output with a 9.6 amp load it was around 12.3 volts and then it recovered after the load stopped
@@Jasonoid , yes it should recover to a similar voltage. There are some people who believe the manufacturer's claim that the 12V outputs are regulated.
Does the Bluetti EB55 fan continuously run when the AC output more then 50 watts or does it only comes on when it's hot and then turns off when it cools down? I have a Bluetti AC50s and that unit's fan just continuously run forever as long as the AC output more then 50 watts. I'm planning to buy the EB55 to replace the AC50s. Thanks for your awesome review of these units.
Really enjoy your channel! Question: on the Bibene, I’d like to use a 120 watt Solar panel to charge it. This solar panel has sometimes yielded 105 W. If you charge the unit on more than 100 W, with anything bad happen? Or does the unit have some kind of adjustment for slightly high wattage input? Thanks!
It won't get any damage, you can actually plug in a 200 watt panel and the Bibene/FFpower power station will automatically limit the input power to around 85 to 95 watts charging.
I was thinking of the same Amazon warranty for the Setpower rv45d cooler Jason reviewed recently because it's a Setpower/Iceco reliable cooler, but doesn't have the Secop 5 year warranty compressor . Can anyone describe how to bring up the warranty option in Amazon's cart screen, I can't find any warranty options, thanks
I'm looking at the EB55 for an emergency like we had last winter, will the EB55 run a small space heater, a hot plate and a small led lamp on a full charge? If your have no power for a week, at a minimum we have to cook on the hot plate once or twice during the day and have some type of low watt heater that could heat up a small room to sleep in. I know you can charge phones and laptops all day long, but what about emergency situations where there is no power for a week or so. I love the fact you can put out solar panels and charge it back up during the day. So will it run some sort of hot plate, small room heater and some light? Thanks for any help you can give!
Great questions! Heating and cooking food, boiling water require A LOT of energy! The EB55 is too small for running a space heater as those pull 1500watts of power. It's also to small to heat a hot plate. A more efficient way to keep warm with a small power station like this would a heated blanket. They use much less power but would still keep you warm. One of the best ways to cook food or boil water during a power outage is by using a small propane stove. Coleman makes a few small models that have adapters for big Propane tanks. You can run a small Propane stove for many hours off a 20lb Propane bottle (the same Propane tank your bbq grill uses). I hope this information is helpful. I want to make a future video on the channel covering this exact topic so make sure to subscribe to be notified of the future video!
You can cook with even small units with a 12 volt rice cooker and heat water in cups fast with a 12 volt immersion water heater, but for keeping warm you might want to try an electric blanket. Hot plates typically use 1500 watts. It`s best to invest in a Coleman Stove for cooking and maybe a My Buddy portable gas heater or something similar. And always use these heaters with a carbon monoxide detector to be safe.
Is the bibene cn505 good replacement for jackery 500? Panning on getting the jackery 500 but the bibene cn505 looks more appealing to me. Thank you and very nice vid review.
Hey Wire, the Bibene is a great unit that goes head to head with the Jackery. The Bibene charges around the same speed, but has more output options. It also has better battery chemistry being LiFePO4. I haven't tested the Jackery 500 though so I can't tell you which one to go with. The Jackery does have better support and an actual warranty. I'd say do a little more thinking and make the choice that fits you best. Thanks for tuning into the channel!
Hi, great review, thank you for taking the time. Few questions. Does this unit have high and Low voltage disconnect. Does it have high temperature and low temperature sensing/ disconnect. Have you any idea of the parasitic draw on the AC inverter. If the AC inverter shuts down due to lower charge, will it automatically turn on after the battery recharge reaches a certain level. Does it have pass through charging, ie when charging from a wall outlet or solar can it be used at the same time. You mentioned that it has 2500 cycles, does it drop to a certain percentage for example 80% after the 2500 cycles. Could you clarify what you meant by 2500 cycles. Did you ever do the tear down of this unit, battery. Couldn't find that video. Thank you.
@@Jasonoid It all worked out. The next day I was able to pick up eight, 40AH Valence U1 12Rt batteries that take full charge for $400. I wanted the Bibene as a stop gap for a van build until I could build what I truly wanted. I'm now WAY ahead.
I wonder when the EB 70 will have a percentage gauge I wish it was soon because I’m getting ready to buy one but it’s not totally a must-have it would just be nice great video dude
I have several power stations with percentage along with bar readouts AND the percentage is a guesstimate in all cases . They can go from 80% to 100% in a matter of seconds when charging and when in use have had them drop from 60% to 40% and suddenly the low battery warning is flashing ! ! This includes Goalzero, Bluetti, Rockpals, and Suaoki units. Just having the A/C inverter on in most units uses 'hidden' power to decrease the actual usable amount. And slow charging a unit will often confuse it's computer so it ends up being fully charged before the percentage display catches on ! ! I have become used to averaging a unit's ability from previous run cycles .
wow I have a echo flow charge station it can out do all these three combine mine has an input of 200 w and double that on the AC side when it comes to charging my echo flow Max
@@Jasonoid ok I’m pretty much a dummy about these generators but are you saying that the generator can charge itself? So can you power a 12v compressor fridge longer this way? I’m confused 🤷♀️
The Power bricks for EB70 & EB55. I understand the power brick for the #B70 is noisy & runs all the time? Does the power brick for the EB run all the time & is it also noisy?
With the EB55 (I'll go check the review) that accepts two charge inputs, that is really interesting to me. If I have it in my vehicle can I use a solar panel on the roof and the rig's charging system ... or is the wall outlet input different than 12V ... etc. off to check the review... I almost was going to go with the 70, will sleep on it but I don't know it has much improvement over the 55 ... I'm not interested in the unregulated as I use ham radio too and regulated is way better for the radios. thank... I thumbed up it.
I recently got the EB70 and tested it with a 20 quart fridge. The temperature in my house was 73 degrees. The fridge was set to 37 degrees and it ran for 67 hours. I thought that was pretty impressive.
@@cindygarnett8118 thanks for sharing! Its great to hear when people run these fridge tests! With lower ambient temps you can get really long run times! Warmer temps will make the compressor run more so it will lower battery capacity faster.
Thanks Jason. I got the Bibene and love it. Also bought the EB55 this morning, both thru' your links. Thanks for the discounts. One thing I've been wondering, can you over-panel these units, that is, charge the Bibene with 200 watts of panels (tho' it's rated for only 100 watts) maybe on smoky days or cloudy days, or just to max the charging wattage? Or is it not advised to push more charge than the unit is rated for?
Hey Jim! Thanks for supporting my channel :) As long as the panels are in parallel it should be fine to get the most out of rainy or cloudy days. The Bibene can't handle solar panels in a series connection.
Jason can I charge my laptop etc. at the same time I charge my Bluetti and Golabs with the AC charger or the solar panel?? Input and output at the same time??
Hi, im new at your channel, i have a Question ¿The Bluetti EB55 & MAXOAK AC50S are the Same? If not, what are the main differences? you recommend one over the other? For me the 500w capacity is what i need for Camping... But im Kind of confused here
Simply put the EB55 has better batteries in it and has the potential to charge much faster. They have similar capacities but I would recommend the EB55 over the Ac50s
Hey Jason, I heard in a forum I'm in that Bluetti has updated their display and is using percentage rather than the bars and time till empty/full. According to this person Bluetti has been shipping out new products with the updated display. Have you heard anything about this? Thanks.
Not heard of that yet but it could be the case! You get used to the display pretty quick and just deal with it haha. Bluetti makes excellent power stations!
Do you know if Amazon or some other seller offers the Bibene? That product is right in my price wheelhouse, but I can't seem to find the Bibene power station.
Bluetti said pass through charging will reduce battery life is this correct? As I was going to get a second one so I can charge via solar that while the other one is being used.
It depends on how hard you are pushing the battery. Low levels of passthrough charging, 200 watts or less isn't a big deal at all. The more stress in the internal cells means less charge cycles in the long run.
I’ve got a 110 outlet in the back of my truck so can I charge the bluetti 55 along with the alternators 12 volt? While using the bluetti to charge my fridge?
My Bibene won't charge by solar nor from another power station using the Bibene cig adapter. I won't power up my 300w inverter but other then that the ac work great and can be plug into a wall outlet.
I haven't seen any issues or heard of any issues while charging and discharging the battery at the same time. However, this does put more stress on the battery and will likely lessen the lifecycles by a little bit. That's not an issue with LiFePO4 because the lifecycles are already so high. I could see them wanting to say something about it to protect themselves. I wouldn't worry about it.
Hard to decide this Bluetti EB70w (2,500 cycles LiFeP04) at now $499 2 year warr. anywhere verses the Aviva L780 (1,000 cycles lithium ion 1 year warr.) at also $499 at Sams? Bluetti weighs 5 lbs. more but charges at 200 watt verses the Aviva's 100 watts
@@Jasonoid Jason Mad respect for spot on reviews and your fast response. Working on two freedom vehicles, westfalia and an eventual project m build out. What are your recommendations for a power set up? Generator to run a a lap top , and 60!qtr dual freezer frog , Portable pane, mobile solar panel and or mounted
@@Waterman872 Thanks David, trying to keep the content coming haha! Running a 60qt dual compartment fridge and a couple other devices would probably require a larger battery. I would recommend the EB70 for your use case BUT I think Bluetti might be coming out with a larger EB100 and I think that might suite you perfect....so maybe waiting for that might be best? You could always go the DIY route making your own LiFePO4 100 amp hour battery and have 1300wh of storage for a cheaper cost than a power station as well. I will have a video coming out soon on that battery build.
I got my EB55 2 days ago and it bricked itself after I tested it on my freezer and it overloaded yesterday. It wont charge and nothing works on it. Bluetti’s email response was that the main board is possibly burnt out and that i should dispose of this unit and purchase another unit.
@@Jasonoid nothing yet. I filed for a return on amazon and now i have to wait. I followed up with Bluetti in multiple emails with video and also sent then a youtube link of the issue. This is a really poor design especially since you have no way of servicing the unit to at least get the batteries out. I can see the XT90 connector behind the fan but you cant even get to it. Here’s the issue clip ruclips.net/video/Ow8D1_JZTYU/видео.html
Hi Jason Can you tell me how much time is left when the Bluetti EB70 is at 20%. I'm 71 and I saved enough for the EB70 and that is the problem I see with it too. I am trying to learn all I can.
Depends on the load you are pulling from the battery. When it hits about 20% left that's about 123 watt hours of storage. So you can run a 100 watt load for a little over an hour. You could run a 50 watt load for about 2.5 hours (123/50=2.46hours). Hope that helps!
I read somewhere, maybe from one of Jason's comment threads, that it is helpful to deplete battery completely to 0% after initial 100% charge to allow the battery charge indicator to properly calibrate. Also read that lifepo batteries should not be stored ( not in use ) long term at 100%, but ok to sit unused long term at 80%. Can you verify either of these " facts" Jason ? Thanks
@@rickwilson6023 it's always good to run the battery completely down and charge it back up to verify its working probably. Then you know you didn't get a dud before the return window closes. The display capacity is usually pretty accurate and I don't think it changes much as you cycle it. As for storage, these batteries love sitting around 75%-80% capacity for the best 'health' . I don't worry about storing them that way because these power stations have a parasitic drain so after a couple months you'll want to charge them back up anyways.
Thanks Jason. I appreciate access to your knowledge. Parasitic drain would be natural depletion of charge over a few weeks that would lower the charge to 80% from 100% anyway ?? Also is there any negatives to repeatedly recharging to 100% without having dropped below 40 to 60% charge ? Thanks
The battery shouldn't drop too much over a couple months, I still need to do some testing since I haven't owned them very long. I just know there are lots of electronics inside the batteries that are active. I'm guessing only 10% drop per month max? Time will tell. No damage to the battery by discharging it partially. These batteries do not have "memory" like the old batteries we used to have. So much better!
I have the bibene and if you plug in it’s ac charger to itself and charge it it thinks it’s charging itself give it a try. Not sure what’s going on when it does because it used about 121 watts ac to charge itself about 84 watts dc but if you leave it going it “ charges” itself. Can you test that.
Yeah, it will charge itself BUT the battery will eventually run down to 0% due to efficiency losses of the AC inverter. Can't get free power from nothing haha.
@@mashamambea5704 I like either of them. The EB55 charges much faster and has a larger inverter. I'd probably choose the EB55 between the two if I had the extra bucks.
I bounced between which power station I wanted to buy so much that I got sick of it and bought a solar kit and a 50Ah (620Wh) Lithium battery for just a few hundred bucks. Buy yourself a Dewalt tough system box on Amazon, or whatever works for you, then throw in a battery, inverter and charge controller and upgrade as you can. You do not even need an inverter. If you only want usb you can buy DC marine and RV plugs that mount to the battery (fuse included) for just a few bucks. I just bought everything to build my own power station and do not regret it one bit. The thought of firmware updates, and horror reviews I've read, money well spent.
FFpower/Bibene now on Amazon for 299$ ! I got one, please help me to understand how to connect this station to the Rockpals 100 new solar panel from your review with your father in-law! All the outputs Rockpals provided does not fit this station... help! :)
@@Jasonoid I actually found the answer to this question of mine in your other video today about FFpower station you actually named the input size 5525 and I searched on Amazon
Great video. Portable power stations are really improving all the time as new suppliers enter the market. i am interested in the Bibene; but I am concerned that there is no point of contact for the manufacturer. Plus I do not buy from amazon. Are they availabel from other sellers. Here in the UK mains alternating current is 240 volts. Could i charge this unit from mains UK current. thank you.
Barry8082, yes with the proper plug. The power "adapter" is labeled 50/60 Hz and up to 240 VAC. It is bigger and probably better made than the one included with Jackery 500.
@@michaels3003 Thanks for your reply. It looks like it could be charged from UK main AC at 50 Hz. If i can source this from an alternate supplier (not amazon) i will be interested in buying this.
The charging rate on that Bibene is just brutal. And sadly, a complete deal breaker. To get a "solar generator" to actually fully charge in a single solar cycle is EASILY worth an extra 200 dollars. It would have been great for the Bibene to actually accomplish that at it's price, but no, it cannot do the most necessary thing it needs to to be worth spending ANY money on. No sale. Darn.
For the cost, it's one of the best options right now. I didn't say it was perfect haha. You can watch my MOD video where I tore it down and completed a direct charging mod. I can now charge it up at 300watts....the mod was basically free since I already have a LiFePO4 specific charger laying around.
Hey Clay, I bought the Bibene and paired it with a folding 100w solar panel which works perfect. I charge my Milwaukee 18 & 12v tools mostly so far. I paid $360 for the Bibene and $155 for the panel hence $515 for a complete AWESOME setup. I don't understand why it would be a deal breaker. Ecoflo/Jackery is only going to give you 800 cycles to 80% with their batteries. The Bibene 2500 cycles to 80%. In my opinion, slower charging gives you an incredible longer service life over 10 years!!! If you look at the big picture, you could buy 2 units, another battery to charge it, or car charge it overnight from my camper cigarette lighter plug. I set up my panel and put the Bibene and Milwaukee fast charger in the shade of the panel and it's a GREAT 10 year system for $515, hardly a deal breaker FOR ME. You can do his 300w input hack but service life of the batteries will be cut down as Any fast charging system....best bang for the buck :)
You forgot the most important thing the charge cycles that cheap Chinese one probably only has 500 to 600 charge cycles when the bluetti has either 2500 or 4000 charge cycles
They all have lifepo4, so expect 2000 at least the Bluetti will definetly last longer but it also costs more money. Each person has their own budget and often can't afford a $650 power station.
Not a great video. Basically it’s the specs you can find in a manual. I was looking for more real world comparisons. Like, how long does it power your mini fridge before needing to be charged up again.
You can get near 200 watts using 24v input, I have a video coming out soon about how to get the most power into the EB55 and EB70 using 24 volts. Stay tuned!
Bibene slow and low input charge just kills it as a choice. Who cares if it's dirt cheap if it's not practical ? Not gonna fiddle with any hacks and risk causing a problem
Just depends on the load you are wanting to run. If the load is under 100 watts, the Bibene (now FFpower) will work fine. Probably not the best setup for you, I'd recommend a faster charging power station if so. Thanks for watching!
I pay pretty high sales tax where I live so most people will see a decrease on these prices. It's worse in my opinion when you see a cheap price and then realize you need to add sales tax and shipping on to it. I'll consider a different method next time.
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hey there do know weather ecoflow uses lithium ion or iron phosphate i am considering gabbing a eco flow river pro but if its lithium ion i'm gonna go with a bluetti as i haven't been able to find the ffpower in canada :)
@@kevlarmon54 the only current model of ECOflow power stations that use Lifepo4 is the Delta Pro @ $3500. All other models have Lithium Ion batteries.
@@Jasonoid hmm thats a shame wanted to go with eco flow due to there app and the 1.6h full charge but not to sure about lithium ion herd they tend to explode ty for the quick responses btw!
I bought the bibean power station because of your videos and I'm super happy with it. Runs my 12 volt iceco fridge for a solid 40 hours without any charge. And it wall charges in 6.5 hours. I'm super happy with it
I feel the same way!
Great comparison! Just received my Bibene based off your reviews. Planning on using it in my overland setup with a portable fridge. The size and having the percentage is what ultimately sold me. Plus with the Amazon coupon it came in at $365. Thanks for putting out this extremely helpful content.
Let me know how your Overland setup goes!
Outstanding product training. No hype, professional & succinct. I am not well versed in solar generators. Your vids are my go-to. Thank you
Awesome! Thank you!
Hi Jason, just thought I would update you on my Bibene CN-505 and my Bluetti EB-55. I bought both for the sole purpose of running each one fully charged(100%) to use with my Resmed air sense 10 c-pap machine when I hunt for 2 weeks in the woods. I used the Bibene first and I was able to get 4 1/2 nights with my humidifier turned off. I really like the Bibene's digital screen and it would show me how many watts I was drawing ( I averaged about 5 watts when I inhaled) and was easy to read and I liked what they did by posting the % you had left right under the battery icon. I would of liked to get 5 days out of it but compared to the Bluetti, it wasn't much of a comparison. The Bluetti after the very first night had used up 2 bars on the battery icon and the monitor screen would go out at night so there was no way to tell how many watts I was drawing. I'm in the process of trying to ship the Bluetti back to the MFG because I am completely not satisfied with it's lack of performance. The manual's for both these units don't even tell you how to use them. Hope this helps someone. Gary
My EB-55 is set to be delivered today and of course I'm just finding out about the Bibene 😢
The EB55 is one of the best 500wh power stations, it charges much faster, has more outputs, and Bluetti support is great. It does cost a little bit more than the Bibene but there are some advantages to both.
Since I got my Bibene for $310 (online coupon, rewards points, gift card from a return) it comes out to 55 cents/WH for me. That it charges slower doesn't bother me because I have 2 other smaller batteries to use while I charge. Plus I only have a 60w solar panel so I just use it for all 3.
55 cents a watt hour is such a good price! These are sold out now so I'm glad you were able to get one before they were gone!
I struggled between the 55 and 70. Your video was exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
Glad it helped!
what's your decision?
@@Supercatie I went with the EB55. It's been great so far! 👍
@@MissSweetweets I'm havinf the same dilemma! I plan to travel cross country in my car, with a 12v fridge 30qt, two phones, ipad and laptop, a fan. Are u still finding EB55 suitable for ur needs? Any thoughts on which might be better for my situation? I will have a 200w solar panel. Thanks in advance
I got that Bibene and absolutely love it. Ran my ICECO vl60d like a champ for 51 hours in my garage with heat
Also. Thank you for the discount code for ICECO. It helped so much 💯❤️
Also I got my Battery bank with that awesome discount Amazon had so it was cheaper than that
Thanks for showing your real world results. Those are great run times!
Excellent, again. Luv the "party mode" comment. I have purchased many pocket flashlights - they all have the "party mode" - total pain in the neck - I get the high, low settings - I can figure out how to signal if need be.
Hahahaha, I totally agree!
I call it "seizure mode" :)
For me coming from a 65 plus pounder. 80 Ah, AGM lead acid portable set up circa 2015 - all three of the above bring new meaning to the term portable power station. At camp an 8 year old child could easily haul either the Bibene or the EB55.
I have the EB 70. Just a word of warning with regards to capacity. At camp recently - with the afternoon temps hovering around 100° F - after a 26 hour period without charging, using only my 12 volt DC truck fridge, the EB 70 was showing a remainder of 21 to 39 percent reserve. The fridge has a Danfoss/SECOP compressor which draws between 30 to 34 watts in its ECO mode after the initial start up period that lasts only a few seconds. In short, my concern is once I see the power station fallen below 40% - I'm looking for a way to recharge.
These are in my opinion a good option for weekend campers. The good news in a 75° F indoor environment - I was able to run my truck fridge for 48 hours. After which time, the Bluetti display showed that the remaining charge was below 20%.
Thanks for sharing your experience. You are correct, these batteries aren't perfect large power drains because they can't charge super fast. DIY lifepo4 batteries are much bigger. They charge faster and can run devices longer. I have a super affordable 100ah version in the works. Video in the next couple months.
@@Jasonoid Don't get me wrong, I'm really happy with the size and weight of these mid-sized power stations. I'm just saying to budget at least 400 watt hours of consumption per 24 hour period, if you're running a fridge during the peak of summer.
In September, I'll be adding a 100 watt solar panel to my truck canopy, so I should be golden, provided it is not too smokey or cloudy.
@@andrewinaustintx that will help for sure! Tree shade is the enemy and a friend. You want the shade for coolness and the sun for power!
Love comparison videos. Makes it so much easier to identify differences.
It was fun to see how they compared, each one has its benefits!
Congrats on the new addition! When you have time, here is a hypothetical situation: You have an Iceco JP40 cooler which with the compressor running it draws 30-50W. You live in SE Texas with hot temps and high humidity. You have a Bluetti SP200 and two Rockpals SP003 panels that can be put in parallel. You have backup gas generators in case the power goes out. What would be your choice, either the smaller capacity faster charging EB55, or the larger capacity slower charging EB70? No other significant devices will be powered while the cooler is charging except maybe a 12V fan. I understand there is no “right” answer but wanted to get your thoughts. Thanks for playing 😊
Hmmmmm, I think they might come out with some new power stations soon with dual charging like the EB55, maybe a new EB70 would be worth waiting for, or MAYBE an EB100? Great hypothetical scenario!
For now with what is currently available, I would go with the EB55 and just charge it up fast with a generator and solar panel at the same time if needed....OR if someone technically savy I would build a DIY lifepo4 battery and get more bang for the buck /charging speeds up to 600 watts or more hehe. I mention that second option because I will be building a 100ah battery soon and put out a video on my channel. The total price will be very good and will power a fridge for much longer....price should be under $500 for 1300wh of storage
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the response! I came to the same conclusion of the EB55 but wanted a second opinion in case I missed something. I do hope Bluetti comes out with some improvements but I will be looking forward to that DIY video. Thanks again.
@@Jasonoid
Would you build a DIY solar power station and sell it?
I would buy one
@@kriskeilman2087 Hey Kris, I'm currently building a new more simple 100ah build. I'm hoping my video will inspire others to build it.
It takes many hours but I think it's worth it because I think it's fun and it does provide much more battery capacity for the cost.
Frankly, I don't think Bluetti tech support or their sales department is very good, so the "established brand name" advantage in this comparison doesn't mean much to me. The Bibene is the "best bang for the buck". I bought the CN505 under the OUKITEL label. Thanks for the great comparison review!
You'll have to let me know how it's different. The screen looks different in the pictures. I have a tear down video plus charging mod I'll post soon, 300 watts now.
@@Jasonoid It is 100% the same. The product pictures on Amazon appear to be from a previous version. You'll note the PDW port is also 45 Watts on the picture, but the version shipped is 60W. Just like Bluetti , you can see the exact same units under different labels. It does seem Bibene sells at a cheaper price than Oukitel but when I bought mine, Bibene was sold out. That being said, its a good unit.
I see the Bibene reviewed all the time and sometimes the ONLY complaint will be the fact that the handle prevents stacking. Does the Bibene stop working when it is laid on its side? Does "stuff" leak out all over the place when it is tipped over? The fan flows front to back so cooling won't be affected. Do the naysayers lack the ability to turn their heads sideways to read the display, occasionally? I don't get it. Mine stacks just fine. As a matter of fact, the surface area of the sides are nearly identical to (actually greater than) the surface area of the top, sans handle. I enjoy your reviews very much, but go outside the box sometimes, it's more interesting.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll try that out more often.
The Bibene is stackable....on it's side.
Hey good point haha!
Informative video. Thanks :-)
What I would like to know; is which of these has the lowest self-consumption when AC is standby ?
Another solid review. I don't need anything till the end of the year so I will hold out and see what Black Friday brings. I'm hoping EcoFlow or Jackery switch to LiPO.
There's a good chance! We'll see what happens!
Bluetti REALLY needs to upgrade their displays.
Yeah, I have told them directly and they will make changes on the next models.
I found a clone of the old Rockpals 540 wh for 260 before tax with a coupon. Decided to go ahead and get it as backup for my EB70 during power outages. Surely it will power my dorm fridge, I hope, but I won`t know until it arrives. I think 260 is a fair price for a 50 amp hour 500 cycle battery with a 500w pure sine wave inverter with MPPT charging. I think we`ll be seeing a lot of great deals on lithium ion battery packs as the market rejects them in favor of better battery chemistry. I`ve acquired about 1800 wh of them for about 600 over the past month.
I totally agree, on discount they will be a good deal, as long as they are built decent enough to be safe and not a fire hazard. That's my worry about these off brand cheapo power stations, one bad charge and BOOM!
FYI, I've tested the Bibene CN505 with a simple 475 W load for three minutes. The 12 V output dropped from 12.85 V to 12.2 V with this AC load.
The battery voltage should recover soon after the large load ends. Most of the voltage drop probably has to do with smaller gauge wires so I'll find that out when I tear it down. When I tested the 12v output with a 9.6 amp load it was around 12.3 volts and then it recovered after the load stopped
@@Jasonoid , yes it should recover to a similar voltage. There are some people who believe the manufacturer's claim that the 12V outputs are regulated.
@@michaels3003 Iill continue testing! Haha
Good comparison Jason! Thank you. Very helpful.
Thanks for stopping by!
Great job!! Went with the eb70 sold me Thank You,Have a cabin off grid
The EB70 is a great a great choice!
Great review but the Bibene has not be available for sometime now on Amazon. I really enjoy all your review videos.
Yeah, they have sold out. Sept 15th is the expected return date.
@@Jasonoid Keep up the great work!
Does the Bluetti EB55 fan continuously run when the AC output more then 50 watts or does it only comes on when it's hot and then turns off when it cools down? I have a Bluetti AC50s and that unit's fan just continuously run forever as long as the AC output more then 50 watts. I'm planning to buy the EB55 to replace the AC50s. Thanks for your awesome review of these units.
The fan doesn't run that often, it runs when charging over 100 watts, and probably when discharging over 100 watts.
Really enjoy your channel! Question: on the Bibene, I’d like to use a 120 watt Solar panel to charge it. This solar panel has sometimes yielded 105 W. If you charge the unit on more than 100 W, with anything bad happen? Or does the unit have some kind of adjustment for slightly high wattage input? Thanks!
It won't get any damage, you can actually plug in a 200 watt panel and the Bibene/FFpower power station will automatically limit the input power to around 85 to 95 watts charging.
@@Jasonoid Thank you!!
This is what I was waiting for.
Thanks for coming back to see it haha
Bibene with Amazon protection plan is an interesting option.
Thats an interesting idea! Wouldn't add too much to the cost to add the plan on. Thanks for sharing
I was thinking of the same Amazon warranty for the Setpower rv45d cooler Jason reviewed recently because it's a Setpower/Iceco reliable cooler, but doesn't have the Secop 5 year warranty compressor . Can anyone describe how to bring up the warranty option in Amazon's cart screen, I can't find any warranty options, thanks
I think it's only offered on specific electronic devices. I bet if you Google it there will be a video or website that talks about it!
This is very informative video, clear and simple explanation.
I'm looking at the EB55 for an emergency like we had last winter, will the EB55 run a small space heater, a hot plate and a small led lamp on a full charge? If your have no power for a week, at a minimum we have to cook on the hot plate once or twice during the day and have some type of low watt heater that could heat up a small room to sleep in. I know you can charge phones and laptops all day long, but what about emergency situations where there is no power for a week or so. I love the fact you can put out solar panels and charge it back up during the day. So will it run some sort of hot plate, small room heater and some light? Thanks for any help you can give!
Great questions! Heating and cooking food, boiling water require A LOT of energy! The EB55 is too small for running a space heater as those pull 1500watts of power. It's also to small to heat a hot plate. A more efficient way to keep warm with a small power station like this would a heated blanket. They use much less power but would still keep you warm.
One of the best ways to cook food or boil water during a power outage is by using a small propane stove. Coleman makes a few small models that have adapters for big Propane tanks. You can run a small Propane stove for many hours off a 20lb Propane bottle (the same Propane tank your bbq grill uses).
I hope this information is helpful. I want to make a future video on the channel covering this exact topic so make sure to subscribe to be notified of the future video!
You can cook with even small units with a 12 volt rice cooker and heat water in cups fast with a 12 volt immersion water heater, but for keeping warm you might want to try an electric blanket. Hot plates typically use 1500 watts. It`s best to invest in a Coleman Stove for cooking and maybe a My Buddy portable gas heater or something similar. And always use these heaters with a carbon monoxide detector to be safe.
Is the bibene cn505 good replacement for jackery 500? Panning on getting the jackery 500 but the bibene cn505 looks more appealing to me. Thank you and very nice vid review.
Hey Wire, the Bibene is a great unit that goes head to head with the Jackery. The Bibene charges around the same speed, but has more output options. It also has better battery chemistry being LiFePO4. I haven't tested the Jackery 500 though so I can't tell you which one to go with.
The Jackery does have better support and an actual warranty. I'd say do a little more thinking and make the choice that fits you best. Thanks for tuning into the channel!
@@Jasonoid thank you! I really appreciate it!
Hi, great review, thank you for taking the time. Few questions. Does this unit have high and Low voltage disconnect. Does it have high temperature and low temperature sensing/ disconnect. Have you any idea of the parasitic draw on the AC inverter. If the AC inverter shuts down due to lower charge, will it automatically turn on after the battery recharge reaches a certain level. Does it have pass through charging, ie when charging from a wall outlet or solar can it be used at the same time. You mentioned that it has 2500 cycles, does it drop to a certain percentage for example 80% after the 2500 cycles. Could you clarify what you meant by 2500 cycles. Did you ever do the tear down of this unit, battery. Couldn't find that video. Thank you.
I replied to your comment on my other video
Great! Concise useful information. Nice job! Thanks.
Each of these have their benefits, just depends what you are looking for!
I had it in my cart this afternoon (8/24/2021). I went to check out this evening and it's sold out.
Which power station?
@@Jasonoid The Bibene
@@keithbrookshire it should be back in stock Sept 15th, buy it early because there are lots of people wanting it
@@Jasonoid It all worked out. The next day I was able to pick up eight, 40AH Valence U1 12Rt batteries that take full charge for $400.
I wanted the Bibene as a stop gap for a van build until I could build what I truly wanted. I'm now WAY ahead.
@@keithbrookshire where did you pick those up? They were sold out at battery Hookup!
Thanks for the review!
Glad to have a the info in one place!
Great video!
I wonder when the EB 70 will have a percentage gauge I wish it was soon because I’m getting ready to buy one but it’s not totally a must-have it would just be nice great video dude
I wouldn't wait on it, you can get used to the display pretty quick, it's a great battery!
I have several power stations with percentage along with bar readouts AND the percentage is a guesstimate in all cases . They can go from 80% to 100% in a matter of seconds when charging and when in use have had them drop from 60% to 40% and suddenly the low battery warning is flashing ! ! This includes Goalzero, Bluetti, Rockpals, and Suaoki units. Just having the A/C inverter on in most units uses 'hidden' power to decrease the actual usable amount. And slow charging a unit will often confuse it's computer so it ends up being fully charged before the percentage display catches on ! ! I have become used to averaging a unit's ability from previous run cycles .
Thanks Jason, just ordered the eb55 to go along with my eb70 and junky RockPals 330w. Great reviews.
That's a great set of batteries! Thanks for checking out the video :)
The Bibene AC output from your review was 465 wh , much less than the DC output 561 wh
Yes. The inverter was not near as efficient as the DC output. It wasn't horrible but I would have liked to see more.
Hi
Can you tell me which one is the best for you? Ep55 or ep70 ??
These are very old. Take a look at the newer AC70 or the larger AC180.
wow I have a echo flow charge station it can out do all these three combine mine has an input of 200 w and double that on the AC side when it comes to charging my echo flow Max
I don't have to worry about pros and cons if I buy all of them
Totally agree! Haha great point! 😂👍🏻
Informative, and professional presented.
Thanks! More videos like this to come on the channel! :)
If I plug the AC charger into the 110v output, then back to the charging port…is it the same result as crossing the streams?!
Infinite power loop! Free energy!
@@Jasonoid ok I’m pretty much a dummy about these generators but are you saying that the generator can charge itself? So can you power a 12v compressor fridge longer this way? I’m confused 🤷♀️
The Power bricks for EB70 & EB55. I understand the power brick for the #B70 is noisy & runs all the time? Does the power brick for the EB run all the time & is it also noisy?
The EB70 and EB55 use the same 209 watt power brick and yes the fan runs the entire time.
With the EB55 (I'll go check the review) that accepts two charge inputs, that is really interesting to me. If I have it in my vehicle can I use a solar panel on the roof and the rig's charging system ... or is the wall outlet input different than 12V ... etc. off to check the review... I almost was going to go with the 70, will sleep on it but I don't know it has much improvement over the 55 ... I'm not interested in the unregulated as I use ham radio too and regulated is way better for the radios. thank... I thumbed up it.
Can't go wrong with either of them, but the dual charging and diffused led light are pretty awesome!
Hi Jason, I have the Bibene CN -505 and I really like it. Would the Rockpals SP003 100 watt Solar Panel work with my Bibene?
The rockpals sp003 will work just fine, but I think the Baldr 120, or the Rockpals RP082 are better because they have a more durable ETFE coating.
@@Jasonoid Thank you Jason, I got caught up reading reviews on the SP003. I trust your opinion on this subject, I know nothing about Solar Panels.
EB70 or EB55 for a portable fridge and light electronics? Our trips will be 3-4 days long. 100-120W solar panel to supplement.
I saw your email, will respond soon :) our third baby was born yesterday so still settling down.
@@Jasonoid Congratulations!
I recently got the EB70 and tested it with a 20 quart fridge. The temperature in my house was 73 degrees. The fridge was set to 37 degrees and it ran for 67 hours. I thought that was pretty impressive.
@@cindygarnett8118 thanks for sharing! Its great to hear when people run these fridge tests!
With lower ambient temps you can get really long run times! Warmer temps will make the compressor run more so it will lower battery capacity faster.
I also paid $499 for the EB70. The price does vary from time to time.
Thanks Jason. I got the Bibene and love it. Also bought the EB55 this morning, both thru' your links. Thanks for the discounts. One thing I've been wondering, can you over-panel these units, that is, charge the Bibene with 200 watts of panels (tho' it's rated for only 100 watts) maybe on smoky days or cloudy days, or just to max the charging wattage? Or is it not advised to push more charge than the unit is rated for?
Hey Jim! Thanks for supporting my channel :) As long as the panels are in parallel it should be fine to get the most out of rainy or cloudy days. The Bibene can't handle solar panels in a series connection.
Jason can I charge my laptop etc. at the same time I charge my Bluetti and Golabs with the AC charger or the solar panel?? Input and output at the same time??
Yes this supports charging the power station AND powering a device at the same time.
Hi, im new at your channel, i have a Question ¿The Bluetti EB55 & MAXOAK AC50S are the Same? If not, what are the main differences? you recommend one over the other? For me the 500w capacity is what i need for Camping... But im Kind of confused here
Simply put the EB55 has better batteries in it and has the potential to charge much faster. They have similar capacities but I would recommend the EB55 over the Ac50s
Hey Jason, I heard in a forum I'm in that Bluetti has updated their display and is using percentage rather than the bars and time till empty/full. According to this person Bluetti has been shipping out new products with the updated display. Have you heard anything about this? Thanks.
Not heard of that yet but it could be the case! You get used to the display pretty quick and just deal with it haha. Bluetti makes excellent power stations!
@@Jasonoid Agreed they are awesome from what I've heard and seen. The only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger is the display!
Do you know if Amazon or some other seller offers the Bibene? That product is right in my price wheelhouse, but I can't seem to find the Bibene power station.
The link to the Bibene is in the video description. Just checked the link is working and is in stock.
Bluetti said pass through charging will reduce battery life is this correct? As I was going to get a second one so I can charge via solar that while the other one is being used.
It depends on how hard you are pushing the battery. Low levels of passthrough charging, 200 watts or less isn't a big deal at all. The more stress in the internal cells means less charge cycles in the long run.
@@Jasonoid thanks for that
I’ve got a 110 outlet in the back of my truck so can I charge the bluetti 55 along with the alternators 12 volt? While using the bluetti to charge my fridge?
Yes, the Bluetti EB55 can use the AC adapter at 200 watts and the DC to DC Charging at 100 watts so about 300 watts total. Pretty awesome!
My Bibene won't charge by solar nor from another power station using the Bibene cig adapter. I won't power up my 300w inverter but other then that the ac work great and can be plug into a wall outlet.
Usually polarity is backwards if it won't charge. So check if the positive and negative are reversed.
The charging voltage must be sufficiently high. I've checked output connector of the supplied power adapter: the inside terminal is positive.
@@michaels3003 thanks, but I had tested the panel it against my small (and old) Jackery and it charge up like a champ. Again thanks for the info.
by the way it a 100w panel
Can the Bibene be charged using a 120w solar panel or does it have to be 100w or less?
120w is fine
Why does the bluetti EB70 suggest not to charge (solar) while using, stating that it may damage it. I don’t see that warning on other batteries.
I haven't seen any issues or heard of any issues while charging and discharging the battery at the same time. However, this does put more stress on the battery and will likely lessen the lifecycles by a little bit. That's not an issue with LiFePO4 because the lifecycles are already so high. I could see them wanting to say something about it to protect themselves. I wouldn't worry about it.
Hard to decide this Bluetti EB70w (2,500 cycles LiFeP04) at now $499 2 year warr. anywhere verses the Aviva L780 (1,000 cycles lithium ion 1 year warr.) at also $499 at Sams? Bluetti weighs 5 lbs. more but charges at 200 watt verses the Aviva's 100 watts
I'd choose the EB70, same price for better battery chemistry, faster charging and good product support.
Great relevant info Thanks
Happy to help
Did I hear correctly, all three units support dual charging? Example running off your car and solar same time?
Only the EB55 supports dual charging since it's the only one that has two charging ports. The EB70 and Bibene only charge with one input at a time.
@@Jasonoid
Jason
Mad respect for spot on reviews and your fast response. Working on two freedom vehicles, westfalia and an eventual project m build out. What are your recommendations for a power set up? Generator to run a a lap top , and 60!qtr dual freezer frog , Portable pane, mobile solar panel and or mounted
@@Waterman872 Thanks David, trying to keep the content coming haha! Running a 60qt dual compartment fridge and a couple other devices would probably require a larger battery. I would recommend the EB70 for your use case BUT I think Bluetti might be coming out with a larger EB100 and I think that might suite you perfect....so maybe waiting for that might be best?
You could always go the DIY route making your own LiFePO4 100 amp hour battery and have 1300wh of storage for a cheaper cost than a power station as well. I will have a video coming out soon on that battery build.
I got my EB55 2 days ago and it bricked itself after I tested it on my freezer and it overloaded yesterday. It wont charge and nothing works on it. Bluetti’s email response was that the main board is possibly burnt out and that i should dispose of this unit and purchase another unit.
So no word of a replacement? Press them hard about the warranty, don't give up for fighting for a new unit! Sending pictures always helps.
@@Jasonoid nothing yet. I filed for a return on amazon and now i have to wait. I followed up with Bluetti in multiple emails with video and also sent then a youtube link of the issue. This is a really poor design especially since you have no way of servicing the unit to at least get the batteries out. I can see the XT90 connector behind the fan but you cant even get to it. Here’s the issue clip ruclips.net/video/Ow8D1_JZTYU/видео.html
@@Armenian oh you can get the battery cells out, you just have cut the whole thing apart with a saw!
@@Armenian Hi Armenian, we've been following up on this issue, and our service team will handle it out asap. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Hi Jason
Can you tell me how much time is left when the Bluetti EB70 is at 20%.
I'm 71 and I saved enough for the EB70 and that is the problem I see with it too. I am trying to learn all I can.
Depends on the load you are pulling from the battery. When it hits about 20% left that's about 123 watt hours of storage. So you can run a 100 watt load for a little over an hour. You could run a 50 watt load for about 2.5 hours (123/50=2.46hours). Hope that helps!
I read somewhere, maybe from one of Jason's comment threads, that it is helpful to deplete battery completely to 0% after initial 100% charge to allow the battery charge indicator to properly calibrate. Also read that lifepo batteries should not be stored ( not in use ) long term at 100%, but ok to sit unused long term at 80%. Can you verify either of these " facts" Jason ? Thanks
@@rickwilson6023 it's always good to run the battery completely down and charge it back up to verify its working probably. Then you know you didn't get a dud before the return window closes. The display capacity is usually pretty accurate and I don't think it changes much as you cycle it.
As for storage, these batteries love sitting around 75%-80% capacity for the best 'health' . I don't worry about storing them that way because these power stations have a parasitic drain so after a couple months you'll want to charge them back up anyways.
Thanks Jason. I appreciate access to your knowledge. Parasitic drain would be natural depletion of charge over a few weeks that would lower the charge to 80% from 100% anyway ?? Also is there any negatives to repeatedly recharging to 100% without having dropped below 40 to 60% charge ? Thanks
The battery shouldn't drop too much over a couple months, I still need to do some testing since I haven't owned them very long. I just know there are lots of electronics inside the batteries that are active. I'm guessing only 10% drop per month max? Time will tell.
No damage to the battery by discharging it partially. These batteries do not have "memory" like the old batteries we used to have. So much better!
Great info. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I have the bibene and if you plug in it’s ac charger to itself and charge it it thinks it’s charging itself give it a try. Not sure what’s going on when it does because it used about 121 watts ac to charge itself about 84 watts dc but if you leave it going it “ charges” itself. Can you test that.
Yeah, it will charge itself BUT the battery will eventually run down to 0% due to efficiency losses of the AC inverter. Can't get free power from nothing haha.
I like the information thank you for that.
Glad it was helpful! Lots of other videos on the channel about these power stations and solar panels :)
@@Jasonoid I'm between the EB55 and the Bibean which one would you recommend 🤔 and u have earned a new subscriber.
@@mashamambea5704 I like either of them. The EB55 charges much faster and has a larger inverter. I'd probably choose the EB55 between the two if I had the extra bucks.
I,ll go for the EB55 and thank you again I really appreciate for you time and advice.
Any future plans to review the Ecoflow products?
Yeah, looking at the 700wh model, gotta save up some cash for it.
Excellent
Every month new batterybanks
Trying for that quick of reviews, they are pretty expensive though HAHA
I bounced between which power station I wanted to buy so much that I got sick of it and bought a solar kit and a 50Ah (620Wh) Lithium battery for just a few hundred bucks. Buy yourself a Dewalt tough system box on Amazon, or whatever works for you, then throw in a battery, inverter and charge controller and upgrade as you can. You do not even need an inverter. If you only want usb you can buy DC marine and RV plugs that mount to the battery (fuse included) for just a few bucks. I just bought everything to build my own power station and do not regret it one bit. The thought of firmware updates, and horror reviews I've read, money well spent.
I love DIY systems! I'm building another system for a video, should be out in a couple weeks
FFpower/Bibene now on Amazon for 299$ ! I got one, please help me to understand how to connect this station to the Rockpals 100 new solar panel from your review with your father in-law! All the outputs Rockpals provided does not fit this station... help! :)
I replied on your other comment with this same link, it should work well: amzn.to/3lCI3ec
@@Jasonoid I appreciate your reply! Your videos have been very helpful!
@@Jasonoid I actually found the answer to this question of mine in your other video today about FFpower station you actually named the input size 5525 and I searched on Amazon
Can the bibene run the bodega tww45 90w portable refrigerator?
Hey Brian,
I swear I responded to this question. Sorry for the delay. The Bibene will do an excellent job running the Bodega TWW45
Great video. Portable power stations are really improving all the time as new suppliers enter the market. i am interested in the Bibene; but I am concerned that there is no point of contact for the manufacturer. Plus I do not buy from amazon. Are they availabel from other sellers. Here in the UK mains alternating current is 240 volts. Could i charge this unit from mains UK current. thank you.
I'm not home to check the wall adapter, I THINK I saw 120-240vac on the input, I'd have to confirm.
Barry8082, yes with the proper plug. The power "adapter" is labeled 50/60 Hz and up to 240 VAC. It is bigger and probably better made than the one included with Jackery 500.
@@michaels3003 Thanks for your reply. It looks like it could be charged from UK main AC at 50 Hz. If i can source this from an alternate supplier (not amazon) i will be interested in buying this.
Good video, but why does everybody get all jumped up about the lights on these things??? We don't care about the stinking light!!
What does temp light mean
It's overheated. It could also mean that it's too cold but I did not test low temp cutoff in these power stations. I will do that in the winter.
Has a handle and difficult to stack. What if i told you, you could flip the battery a quarter.
Yep, someone else previously mentioned stacking it on its side could work out! Great idea
The charging rate on that Bibene is just brutal. And sadly, a complete deal breaker. To get a "solar generator" to actually fully charge in a single solar cycle is EASILY worth an extra 200 dollars. It would have been great for the Bibene to actually accomplish that at it's price, but no, it cannot do the most necessary thing it needs to to be worth spending ANY money on. No sale. Darn.
For the cost, it's one of the best options right now. I didn't say it was perfect haha. You can watch my MOD video where I tore it down and completed a direct charging mod. I can now charge it up at 300watts....the mod was basically free since I already have a LiFePO4 specific charger laying around.
@@Jasonoid I will! That's interesting.
Hey Clay, I bought the Bibene and paired it with a folding 100w solar panel which works perfect. I charge my Milwaukee 18 & 12v tools mostly so far. I paid $360 for the Bibene and $155 for the panel hence $515 for a complete AWESOME setup. I don't understand why it would be a deal breaker. Ecoflo/Jackery is only going to give you 800 cycles to 80% with their batteries. The Bibene 2500 cycles to 80%. In my opinion, slower charging gives you an incredible longer service life over 10 years!!! If you look at the big picture, you could buy 2 units, another battery to charge it, or car charge it overnight from my camper cigarette lighter plug. I set up my panel and put the Bibene and Milwaukee fast charger in the shade of the panel and it's a GREAT 10 year system for $515, hardly a deal breaker FOR ME. You can do his 300w input hack but service life of the batteries will be cut down as Any fast charging system....best bang for the buck :)
The price for bibean is reduced to 349 in amazon
I show the Bibene out of stock still, is it the Quiktel one?
You forgot the most important thing the charge cycles that cheap Chinese one probably only has 500 to 600 charge cycles when the bluetti has either 2500 or 4000 charge cycles
They all have lifepo4, so expect 2000 at least the Bluetti will definetly last longer but it also costs more money. Each person has their own budget and often can't afford a $650 power station.
Bibene is now $470.00
Bluetti is now $460.00
You forgot to add the $90 coupon for the Bibene, the price is $470-$90! HUGE difference :) :) Lowest price I have seen it in AWHILE!
Does the EB55 AC charger fan run all the time even when not plugged into the generator like the EB70 did, or was that corrected? Thanks
Yep, it's the same charger actually. Full fan speed all the time!
Not a great video. Basically it’s the specs you can find in a manual. I was looking for more real world comparisons. Like, how long does it power your mini fridge before needing to be charged up again.
Yeah. It'd an old video, my new videos are much better.
👍🏽 Being a RUclipsr isn’t easy. Just keep doing your thing & follow your gut.
Thoughts on 24vdc charging of EB70 and EB55.
You can get near 200 watts using 24v input, I have a video coming out soon about how to get the most power into the EB55 and EB70 using 24 volts. Stay tuned!
Everything that come out from Ca is wrong this day...
Bibene slow and low input charge just kills it as a choice. Who cares if it's dirt cheap if it's not practical ? Not gonna fiddle with any hacks and risk causing a problem
Just depends on the load you are wanting to run. If the load is under 100 watts, the Bibene (now FFpower) will work fine. Probably not the best setup for you, I'd recommend a faster charging power station if so. Thanks for watching!
Sorry but OTD prices are meaningless when everyone doesn't live in the same taxing jurisdiction. Best to stick with retail pricing comparisons.
I pay pretty high sales tax where I live so most people will see a decrease on these prices. It's worse in my opinion when you see a cheap price and then realize you need to add sales tax and shipping on to it. I'll consider a different method next time.
@@Jasonoid Perhaps. But I think you’re selling your audience short.
Thanks for the feedback, always looking on ways to make my videos better
I like the jackery 1000 I'm out
The Jackery 1000 is a great power station, enjoy!
Not party mode on LED - Morse code SOS to alert responders in the wbent of an emergency.
Yes, sorry It was a joke lol... Everyone knows what SOS is...at least I hope they do!
When he said eb70 was not serviceable, I stopped watching. 😂