Old vs New: How Much Quicker Is The New Toyota GR86 In The Quarter Mile Than The Old One?
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Really cool you found somebody with such a clean GT-S that hasn't been modded to hell.
My gts needs restoration
"I have a GT-R" ah, love the subtle flex lol
Bring back the TFL classics podcast
My 1st boyfriends mom had/has one. She bought it brand new and no one drove it but her.
How many boyfriends did you have?
@@Julianklausat least two
I mean to be fair, Takumi's AE86 from Initial D is using a race engine after the original engine blew up haha
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Even Keiichi Tsuchiya, THE Drift King and most possibly the biggest AE86 "Ambassador" admits the car is not a fast car, but that's not the point of it.
What makes the AE86 great is because it is the perfect car to learn car control. While it lacks power, the car's ability to maneuver overcomes that.
Speaking of Keiichi Tsuchiya, his personal AE86 dubbed "Super Mame" now uses a modified 7AGE engine producing around 220-240hp.
Well said! You are very cultured in that area.
The "7A-GE" is a hybrid combination of the 7A-FE block (that is 1.8L of displacement) and the 4A-GE head cylinder. There are diferent versions of the 4A-GE head that has TVIS and those who don't. There are different versions of those heads that have different ports with different flow caracteristics. I think the later version of the 20 valves 4A-GE, with also two called black top and the silver top engines have different flow caracteristics. A hybrid with any of those head (that comes with ITBs) would also be called 7A-GE. If you plan to build such hybrid you need to do your research.
@@Julianklaus shut up nerd 🤓
This was an affordable, stylish, efficient car back in the day. It was basically a 2-door economy car with a sporty body to appeal to younger buyers. Cars like this were a dime a dozen in the 80s and 90s. Cheap fun. Nowadays, they're just not making cheap, fun cars like this anymore. I think the last of those types of cars died off with the Scion brand. The closest types of cars you'll find now are either affordable 4-doors or higher performance 2-doors with an MSRP thousands higher than economy cars. Sad times. It's funny/interesting to see the perspective of a younger generation who don't seem to realize all this and view good visibility and a belt line low enough to rest your arm on the window sill comfortably as "driving a bubble". The tiny windows trend is a very recent trend in the last 15yrs or so. I'm honestly hoping it dies off so we can better see out of our cars again. I like an airy cabin, not a claustrophobic one. Bring back fun, cheap cars!
That kind of car exist it's just not new Focus/fiesta ST, CIVIC SI, Golf GTI, Genesis coupe 2.0 and early Frs as well as Veloster turbos. If you're looking for rear wheel drive you can get an SN95 GT fairly cheap as well as a G35 for $1,500
@@TwoDollarGararge that was my point though. They don't make them any longer. I mean they still make the Golf GTI but it's like a $40k car now, just like the competing Corolla GR. They're high performance, high price cars consider the economy cars they're based on. Back in the day these were literally just economy cars with some fancier styling, so the prices were kept low.
@@palebeachbum if you're buying a used golf GTI you're probably not in the market for a GR Corolla and let's be honest there not 40k there 70k The kind of person who buys a GTI has kids in responsibilities but still want something they could thrash on a back road
@@TwoDollarGararge My original comment was talking about NEW cars then versus now. That's all.
@@palebeachbum yeah I get what you're saying I think this is more of an issue with everything A new car is simply out of reach for most people in general if you're not leasing
I'm sure the old corolla would've ran at most a 15.00 second quarter mile if the headlights were down 😂😂
No they ran about a 16.5 at the very best launching it hard, remember it's 112hp. The civic si's were quicker.
I really wanted one of the GT-S Corollas . . . the look of that car catches my eye every time 🤩
It's awesome to see fellow Toyota enthusiasts here in Colorado. I feel that we are kinda rare here. I commute in my turbo swapped 1991 MR2 down here in Colorado Springs.
I'm pretty certain I have seen you cruising on Powers very recently! Love the MR2 😍
@@renerpups Was it a black one?
Cool seeing these classic JDM cars!
One is all Toyota and an icon. The other keeps blowing motors because they outsourced to Subaru. Disappointing because it is a good looking car otherwise.
When they first came out, they were considered turds. The rear wheel drive aspect was the only saving grace when the drift kings took it over. The Fwd FX16 Corolla was faster and outsold the AE86.
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The exhaust valve info is incorrect, the valve he ment to talk about is in the engineered intake manifold
Each cylinder has 2 inlet runners, half of which have a vacuum-assisted butterfly valve that blocks it's path sub 4,200 RPMs or thereabouts called the T-VIS(Toyota Variable Induction System). This causes air down in the powerband to flow mostly thru one of the two intake valves with some air being deflected down the second valve to promote asymmetric flow inducing in cylinder fuel mixture swirling & higher velocity airflow prompting better cylinder filling whilst using large relatively high lift cams not ment for regular driving
This system actually had airflow similar to what Honda's DC5 VTEC K20 powered Integra Type R does before it "comes on cam", as that iteration of Honda's VTEC system also(unbeknownst to most)also had asymmetric airflow down lower in the revs where one valve was getting more air thru & the other less promoting higher; velocity, fuel mixing, cylinder filling, just as how Toyota's T-VIS system achieved in the early 1980's, even if the mechanisms were different both systems offered superior low down drivability then other compromised DOHC 4 Valves of the times
That said many Toyota(even back then)do feature a passive valve in the muffler, but it's more of a spring loaded pressure flap, but I'm sure that isn't what he was attempting to refer to, I'm pretty sure even Tercels & Prius have that flap, & no it isn't coming on at any RPM that stuff is passive as I said & I believe many manufacturers probably include that in their exhaust for many reasons
This doesn't get touched on in the video, but the Corolla lineup was odd back then. If you bought a plain old Corolla, you got a FWD car with (as noted) the single-cam engine. If you bought a Corolla GTS, you got a rear-drive car with the twin-cam engine - a completely different car with the same model name.
I had an 87 Corolla GTS (red, like this one, but a notchback) back in the early '90s. I loved driving that car - the engine was a screamer. Thanks for the memories!
I hope he kept the original parts. Modifying an unobtanium car is rarely a good idea.
I guarantee the brakes and suspension cross over to 2 other vehicles. This is Toyota we are talking about. They used the same door handle on 90 percent of there vehicles. If the rear brakes are so hard to find put a narrowed 8.8 in the rear.
Almost bought ona these for my first car, and i passed and bought an 89 z24 instead, cant complain that car was awesome and lasted years but man if id only of known what theyd be worth today, it was 1200 bucks and in nice shape about 150k on it.
The Ae86 is the chasis code none of them were sold as AE86, corolla in the states and sprinter or levin in the Japanese market.
Sorry you're wrong. Gts and sr5 are AE86. It's on the firewall and built plate.
"i dont wanna kill the car".......proceeds to ride the clutch out for half of 1st from 3000rpm lol
Has valves in the intake manifold.
aka TVIS 😎👍
AE86 is the code name of the car, not a name from the Japan car community.
The 86 was popular long before initial d it was raced extensively
One is an actual Toyota, the other is really a Subaru.
Will be nice if the new one was an actual Toyota and this is coming from a Subaru owner
They use to steal the seats and factory wheels off of them on the dealership lots back in the day
Amazing thumbnail tommy very captivating
Don't care how much quicker, is it as much fun...
Throw a s2000 motor in the ae86 and it's over
Bruh you tested the auto, what's the point
I loved my 85 twin cam. It had about 300k on it when I sold it like 18 yrs ago. Had a header, and I think a greddy exhaust, center force clutch.
A friend of mine back in high school had one of these brand new. It was a GTS and I remember it had gold rims. Don't see too many of these today. Cars were pretty slow back then.
My parents' neighbor has (or had) three of these cars in his shop, last time I was there. All three in pretty good shape. I think he was just buying them as he found them, for future projects.
@@drg5352 I grew up when Japanese cars were on the come up. I knew guys that had the first gen integra, Honda crx, 300zx, first gen celica etc..
Really slapping us with that gorilla car care stuff. Perfect owner for this car. I work with an owner of the new one. Skinny jeans, check. Bad posture, check. My coworker comes with palm tree hat and hoodie half way of his head.
The GR86 doesn’t have to be underpowered but for some reason that’s the only way they make them. Also I wish it was a 2 seater, nobody deserves to sit in that rear seat.
In a couple years that Subaru will be dead under the shadow of a tree, the gts still running circles
There cool but not 25k cool
looks like a supra mk2
Doesn't the new GR86 have speaker engine sound?
Man elevation kills those cars. They are both easily 2.5 seconds faster at sea level.
I don't know how high up they where but on Car Wow in the UK the did the 1/4 mile with a manual GR86, only the driver of course, in 14.6s and 14.8s in two different videos. That's a massive difference!!
@@enekoprins Thats pretty slow. I have a 2022 BRZ and with a dragy I can do 13.9 14.2 consistently.
Yep
That's the one I wanted, trueno blue
Toyota owns a piece of Subaru. The flat 4 cylinder engine gives the car a lower center of gravity. Very good engines too.
Love these type video
Listen man, if you're measuring 86s in a 1/4 mile drag race you're doing it wrong 🤔
News flash both are slower than erosion.
dude, you have an S2000 in your picture. I'm sure that was blazin quick stock.
You do know the new gr86 is faster than an S2000 right?