If you have NEVER been disappointed with EL Wire in brightness, durability, vibrancy, interactivity, ability to integrate, buzzing noise, degradation over time or through UV exposure, spotty appearance, then this product is NOT for you. If you want to take advantage of the next generation of lighting technology and integrate into wearables, make installations have a brighter and more professional appearance, hold up to UV exposure in automotive industries, retail or stage performances, interact with Arduino and external devices like DMX, then you will notice the cost of ownership over EL Wire is substantially less over the lifespan of the product.
hey I'm not saying that laser wire is crap, or not worth it. Obviously, being brighter, holding up better to UV light, etc. are great. I'm saying that for most applications like electronics (lighting up PC towers, controllers) which is what I'm in the market for, spending 150usd for appearance is out of the question. ps: saying stuff like "next generation of lighting technology" isn't really a selling point. Also, last time I checked, you can connect an EL wire to an Arduino for simple lighting effects. overall good video though.
dont you need a separate laser emitter for each break in the wire? making it not ideal for automotive use or any use where you need to stop the light in certain parts?
efishe22292 yes, each separate wire requires a new laser module. In many instances where you require a break in light, heat shrink tubing works great, as it blocks all light and can blend in with the surroundings.
About $150. The cost in this case is a relative term. Performance and aesthetics are the intangibles that are a bigger factor in the overall picture. Laser Wire® does not emit any noise, is brighter, more vibrant, looks more professional, lasts longer, doesn't degrade with heat or UV exposure, and is more flexible. This makes it easier to integrate and doesn't need replacing. If none of those things matter, then EL Wire is (and will always be) your less expensive option.
@@EllumiglowPage I'll admit if I had a show car or like a home theater system I would go with the Laser wire all day, maybe in the future I will swap over to Laser
As far as installation in automobiles, I know that OEM standards are very high for ambient lighting. What is the car industry utilizing in a lot of today's cars? Is it EL wire, laser wire, or a LED derivative technology? Are there any companies that create EL wire for automobiles today because there doesn't seem to be aftermarket high grade lighting systems for car interiors from any of the giants like OSRAM, G.E., Kioto, or so forth?
ErwinSchrodinger64 the main reason EL Wire has not become more popular in automobile use is the degradation of the phosphor over UV exposure and excessive heat typically caused by normal auto use. Because Laser Wire does not contain any materials that can degrade with these same exposure properties, it can be integrated much more seamlessly. The nice feature is the lighting element needs to be replaced, it is simply replacing the laser module and not the whole line which in most cases is embedded into the car.
EL Wire cannot emit infrared wavelengths, however Laser Wire standard profiles are meant for the visible spectrum. However, we have special profiles that can emit wavelengths to the relatively low infrared bandwidth, to about 980nm. If you would like more information on this, please email our support team at info at ellumiglow dot com.
Also, the Laser Wire is a cool lighting, meaning it does not emit heat. However the laser modules can produce some heat (around 40C), and some of the heat can spill into the first small section of the wire as heat dissipates from the laser module.
Picto58 Picto58 please visit our site at Ellumiglow.com. We have some off-the-shelf shapes but we can also customize virtually any shape, size or color. Please email info@ellumiglow.com for further information.
There's a couple different ways to do it. First, we have a welted profile (shaped like a keyhole), so it can be sewn directly into fabrics without affecting the light. Second, you could loop stitch the standard round profile cable as well. We also have a commercial grade jacketing that might be more applicable since it encases the product in a larger diameter jacket, which makes it quite difficult to break the wire itself. It's been proven to hold up in the laundry even.
Yes. The laser wire itself is a semi-transparent color when not lit, and the laser (light) source dictates the color that the wire illuminates. This is nice because you can easily swap out laser modules for seasons, and create beautiful color gradients by adding different colored modules to each side. Only one side needs to have a laser module, but you can add a second to either double the brightness or create a color gradient.
Hi there! Thanks for watching. Laser Wire is still 4-10x the brightness of EL Wire (150cd/m2 vs 1000cd/m2), so for applications that require higher brightness, we usually recommend Laser Wire. Much of our products are available for retail purchase (such as EL Wire and Laser Wire) but we largely cater to design firms and agencies. One thing also to note that Laser Wire can be frequently bent without degradation, EL Wire degrades after bending after several bends, making it less effective for applications such as costuming, etc. It ultimately comes down to application, expectations, and usage at the end of the day.
You are correct. While Lasers do have the best efficiency and light output, other light sources like LEDs could potentially be used. The main issue is that the light source needs to have all of its light to focus onto about 0.23mm, which is hard for most sources currently. As LEDs get smaller and more efficient, there is a possibility to use different lights.
Passed High School Physics EL Wire still works in some cases just fine. In other areas like stage performances, retail or trade show displays, automotive and safety, EL Wire is just not strong enough to compete with ambient lighting. For this reason, we created Laser Wire to compliment our lighting lineup. Thanks for watching!
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This video really sheds some light on things...
Christopher Zimny one might call it enlightening... 😃
what it doesn't say:
El wire - $20
Laser wire - $150
If you have NEVER been disappointed with EL Wire in brightness, durability, vibrancy, interactivity, ability to integrate, buzzing noise, degradation over time or through UV exposure, spotty appearance, then this product is NOT for you. If you want to take advantage of the next generation of lighting technology and integrate into wearables, make installations have a brighter and more professional appearance, hold up to UV exposure in automotive industries, retail or stage performances, interact with Arduino and external devices like DMX, then you will notice the cost of ownership over EL Wire is substantially less over the lifespan of the product.
hey I'm not saying that laser wire is crap, or not worth it. Obviously, being brighter, holding up better to UV light, etc. are great. I'm saying that for most applications like electronics (lighting up PC towers, controllers) which is what I'm in the market for, spending 150usd for appearance is out of the question.
ps: saying stuff like "next generation of lighting technology" isn't really a selling point. Also, last time I checked, you can connect an EL wire to an Arduino for simple lighting effects.
overall good video though.
Holy F*ck!!!
just about to state that fact LASER WIRE is expensive!
Also limited colors
I look forward to giving this a try in my art
Are the emitters likely to come down in price anytime soon?
At the moment this can't even come close to competing with EL wire for value/$
dont you need a separate laser emitter for each break in the wire? making it not ideal for automotive use or any use where you need to stop the light in certain parts?
efishe22292 yes, each separate wire requires a new laser module. In many instances where you require a break in light, heat shrink tubing works great, as it blocks all light and can blend in with the surroundings.
paint it black in the break spots?
I just got 5 meters of blue El wire for 10 bucks to accent my Challenger, how much would that have been in Laser?
About $150. The cost in this case is a relative term. Performance and aesthetics are the intangibles that are a bigger factor in the overall picture. Laser Wire® does not emit any noise, is brighter, more vibrant, looks more professional, lasts longer, doesn't degrade with heat or UV exposure, and is more flexible. This makes it easier to integrate and doesn't need replacing. If none of those things matter, then EL Wire is (and will always be) your less expensive option.
@@EllumiglowPage I'll admit if I had a show car or like a home theater system I would go with the Laser wire all day, maybe in the future I will swap over to Laser
As far as installation in automobiles, I know that OEM standards are very high for ambient lighting. What is the car industry utilizing in a lot of today's cars? Is it EL wire, laser wire, or a LED derivative technology? Are there any companies that create EL wire for automobiles today because there doesn't seem to be aftermarket high grade lighting systems for car interiors from any of the giants like OSRAM, G.E., Kioto, or so forth?
ErwinSchrodinger64 the main reason EL Wire has not become more popular in automobile use is the degradation of the phosphor over UV exposure and excessive heat typically caused by normal auto use. Because Laser Wire does not contain any materials that can degrade with these same exposure properties, it can be integrated much more seamlessly. The nice feature is the lighting element needs to be replaced, it is simply replacing the laser module and not the whole line which in most cases is embedded into the car.
I’m looking at my 2019 Ford Expedition, it is using leds with a plastic diffuser.
Does this emit infrared wavelengths? Is there any warmth to the touch?
EL Wire cannot emit infrared wavelengths, however Laser Wire standard profiles are meant for the visible spectrum. However, we have special profiles that can emit wavelengths to the relatively low infrared bandwidth, to about 980nm. If you would like more information on this, please email our support team at info at ellumiglow dot com.
Also, the Laser Wire is a cool lighting, meaning it does not emit heat. However the laser modules can produce some heat (around 40C), and some of the heat can spill into the first small section of the wire as heat dissipates from the laser module.
I like your VynEL tape. How much is it?
Picto58 Picto58 please visit our site at Ellumiglow.com. We have some off-the-shelf shapes but we can also customize virtually any shape, size or color. Please email info@ellumiglow.com for further information.
Very insightful video :)
Hey how do you attach laser wire to fabric??
There's a couple different ways to do it. First, we have a welted profile (shaped like a keyhole), so it can be sewn directly into fabrics without affecting the light. Second, you could loop stitch the standard round profile cable as well. We also have a commercial grade jacketing that might be more applicable since it encases the product in a larger diameter jacket, which makes it quite difficult to break the wire itself. It's been proven to hold up in the laundry even.
@@EllumiglowPage thank you so much for this fast response 😊
There is transparent laser wire that color can be defined from laser light?
Yes. The laser wire itself is a semi-transparent color when not lit, and the laser (light) source dictates the color that the wire illuminates. This is nice because you can easily swap out laser modules for seasons, and create beautiful color gradients by adding different colored modules to each side. Only one side needs to have a laser module, but you can add a second to either double the brightness or create a color gradient.
Shit, for that price ill just buy a shit load of el wire and replace it as it dims
Hi there! Thanks for watching. Laser Wire is still 4-10x the brightness of EL Wire (150cd/m2 vs 1000cd/m2), so for applications that require higher brightness, we usually recommend Laser Wire. Much of our products are available for retail purchase (such as EL Wire and Laser Wire) but we largely cater to design firms and agencies. One thing also to note that Laser Wire can be frequently bent without degradation, EL Wire degrades after bending after several bends, making it less effective for applications such as costuming, etc. It ultimately comes down to application, expectations, and usage at the end of the day.
i didnt see that coming!
Dispite the name, I wonder if you couldn't use some other light source besides a laser.
You are correct. While Lasers do have the best efficiency and light output, other light sources like LEDs could potentially be used. The main issue is that the light source needs to have all of its light to focus onto about 0.23mm, which is hard for most sources currently. As LEDs get smaller and more efficient, there is a possibility to use different lights.
El wire is very bright. If Laser wire is brighter it’s too bright for all of my applications.
Passed High School Physics EL Wire still works in some cases just fine. In other areas like stage performances, retail or trade show displays, automotive and safety, EL Wire is just not strong enough to compete with ambient lighting. For this reason, we created Laser Wire to compliment our lighting lineup. Thanks for watching!
UGH! That voice!
you were better off getting a siri-like voice to do the voiceover. this girl's voice was extremely annoying and noticeably dull