@Hard Is Easy To remember the way to tie: start hard, finish easy! (Start hard by pushing the rope to the side and finish easy by going through the big hole :) )
I prefer 'start small, finish big' - it's more accurate to what you're actually doing, and a more natural phrase that won't get confused ("start easy, finish hard" makes a lot more sense than "start big, finish small").
@@Phazaar I get what you're saying, but start hard finish easy is something a lot of us heard as kids, guessing op did too, as in study hard now and you won't have to struggle as an adult
Also someone who actually puts the camera in the perspective of our eyes when tying a knot. All other videos puts the camera in the perspective of watching someone else tying a knot.
Thank you! My son is an adaptive climber. I just took a belay class at his gym and had a challenging time with the fig 8. Your video smoothed me out and I am now feeling more confident about belaying him.
Yea it's a long video teaching you how to save time :D But this video is a part of coming Belay Masterclass and little details make a huge difference in critical situations. So climb safe and smile more ;)
I think you misunderstood the reason why some people tie a 'safety knot'. You're right it doesn't add any strength to the knot but that is not why it is tied. It is tied simply to ensure that your tail is long enough. No need to guess the length - if you can tie the safety knot then you have enough. Also it should be cinched down neatly on top of the figure of 8, not like you show in the video. It never gets in the way like this.
Alex Webber if you have enough rope to tie off your Fig. Of Eight with a stopper you have too much tail. A hand span is sufficient. It also shows lack of mastery IMHO if you are not consistent.
@@beyondthepale2023 I do it because most gyms in the UK require it. I'm merely pointing out the correct logic and form, which is different to what is shown in this video.
So, if it is long, it’s wrong- the video that is... Not so, I found this video cleverly edited, a great casually thorough verbal presentation, and perfectly presented. Whomever did the video work and edited it - WELL DONE! I’m going to use this for tying in to my bosun’s chair for going up the mast! It’ll take a little practice though.
Although my kids learned the figure 8 at the gym, I've shown them this vid then walked them through it and it's become the way they always tie in now. It just 'clicked' for them. Mahalo and Aloha.
When I had saw that the video is 13 minutes long I thought it's impossible to make the interesting and useful video 'how to tie a figure 8 knot' that is so long. I was wrong. Good job. Now I know good video for newbies (and not only newbies) that teach to tie figure 8 with many useful details.
You are one of the best instructors out there. step by step and explaining WHY certain thing should be the way they are makes it "stick" so much better. Excellent work, and thank you very much.
I use a little tip to help my students to remember how to start and finish the follow through part. I say that they need to start small and finish big (referring to the sizes of the holes formed by the rope in one or the other side of the strand you need to follow. Little complicate to explain in a writing form but very easy to see and understand.
I learned so much, I always thought that the figure 8 had no down sides, but the cross loading is something I never thought about. Its super facinating .
This is the only video that could teach me how to tie the first figure 8 knot. In my country, we need to pass a practical exam for belaying. I was so stressed because I could not tie a figure 8 knot consistently and I did not know why I can’t do so. Luckily RUclips lead me to this video and I learnt how to tie the knot in the most simple way. Thanks so much!!
I have 30 years climbing experience and degree in math, so I think about knots and symmetry a lot. But I never noticed that one symmetry is easier to untie than the other, and I've never heard any other climber note this either. Did you figure this out on your own? Kudos!
Really nice lesson. If not climbed for a decade but all the instruction videos didn't seem to match what little i could remember. Finally found the right video and the right way before my refresher course. Thanks
Loved the way you suggested .....To blindfold and make knots .......Helpful in night.......Many don't tell this .......I like the way you explain to cover in 360'.........The kNots were easy just because you explained so well
Every new climber should be subscribed to your channel. I have probably watched over 100 videos at least and you are by far, the most knowledgeable and I learn so much watching your instruction. You explain EVERYTHING in such detail you can't help but absorb the information. I assume you also teach, your students are very lucky to have you. So far I have learned the correct way to tie a figure of eight and I have never had an issue untying it while I have seen others struggle and using screwdrivers to get them untied. My instructors said just follow the rope, it didn't matter. I have also learned that the rope needs to be over the figure eight descender, not on the bottom side or it could scrape up against a rock wall and roll over and jam you up. My instructors said it didn't matter, over or under, makes no difference. There are of course other things I have learned watching you, those are just a couple of mentions. Thank you for providing this content, it will save a life, I guarantee you it will.
I like the explanation of how to tie into the harness. Especially the non dominant side tip. To add another reason, using both leg and waist loops adds redundancy, which is good.
Two minutes in and already one of the best instructional videos I've seen. Love the subtle humor, and way to tell em that it don't need no back up! However, I'd just like to add that the orientation of the initial part of the knot, where you say "it should be on the left not the right" around 7:30, doesn't actually matter, you can achieve a clean figure 8 either way, you just have to follow it the correct way.
The orientation in the video makes it easier imo since it's easier to put the second loops on top of the existing loops. If you tie the knot with the line going to the left, putting the second loops on top, that's how you end up with the loop of the load end of the rope being on top rather than below (and thus a rope that's difficult to open after a hard fall) Although TBH in my limited experience of top roping this has never happened anyway - the only gotcha we had with things being difficult to open was if we screwed the locking carabiner for the belay device snug and then it tightens more when you load it. My instructor taught the way being shown in this video - with the exception that he didn't show the fancy twisting at the beginning - but did have the line going to the right. He also gave us a cut off of rope to practise. When I practised at home I did it the other way but added the twist (which I'd seen others do) Obviously both knots are safe but having watched this video I've swapped now.
Thank you buddy for a great video! Note that the control knot in the figure eight is required on slippery climbing ropes (for example, Mammut Serenity dry 8.7). I have repeatedly lost a strand of the eight, if i do not impose a control knot on long mountaineering ascents. I recommend checking the knot periodically on long climbing routes.
On long climbs the checking is more important and easier without the control knot. On a brand new 'slippery' rope even on short climbs I'd use the extra stopper.
One of the better explanation gurus on RUclips. This guy is a legend and pretty sure genuinely a nice guy. You will not find clearer explanations of climbing techniques or apparel on the internet. ❤
This video is really a revelation. I had sometimes strange knots after a fall, now I see the difference. And of course, so much easier to untie. THANKS!
Excellent video, been tying and teaching this way for years, even down to the slight press of the eight when starting the rethread, after stumbling on the same knot loading based on strand position a while back, as well as having accidentally clipped a loose tail and a knotted tail while being in close to a bolt. A couple additional notes is bringing the knot in close, close enough to tension the tie in points, will reduce how much the knot rotates around the tie in points during a fall. This has the benefit of decreasing the likelihood of being flipped as well as decreasing wear on the harness by distributing this evenly between the tie in points and not grinding the nylon rope against nylon loops. As to tying in top down or bottom up, easier to see you are hitting both loops from the bottom, thus the idea of top down “incase you miss one” being likelier to cause the miss. Further, because the leg loops are likelier to slide upward than the waist belt is to slide downward, this means the knot will generally be better centered and therefore distribute the load better. Using the top down method, you have to maintain tension for a couple passes of the knot to position the knot. These are both utterly minimal benefits, but if all other matters are equal then learn the minimally better one.
Hi there I ve bern climbing since sept21 roughly 3 times a week for 2hrs. I did giggled at " people that can miss a loop" first time when i watched this video few months ago. Until yesterday, when i tied my figure 8 only through the hip loop. Nothing bad happened (apart from discomfort on the way down) but lesson learned about routine, staying aware and checking each other.
The mnemonic I was taught to remember how to tie a clean knot like the one in this video is "outside, outside, in." You Push the working end through on the outside of the line you are tracing the first 2 times, then finish on the inside. I was also taught an easier way to tighten the knot. Hold both strands beneath the knot with one hand. Pull each strand above the know individually. Then swap: hold both strands above with one hand while pulling the two below individually. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks a lot. Perfect instruction, with a nice pace to follow along easily. Also, love the way you explain all the variations and why to do or not to do.
Learned 1st the way with the excess length from a bad instructor. Then a year later when old enough in cub scouts I did the survival class and learned the way you recommended for everything from climbing to water rescue tieing off to boats before throwing out a rescue knot or preserver. The instructor even taught us the double bunny ear style for bear bags. Figure 8's are great for everything in life even a paracord keyring.
I love the level of analysis. I spent 3 days myself looking for safe variations of the bowline to have a knot that is easier to untie. Little did I know there was a better way to tie a figure of 8. I even had a reapeatable, habitual way of tying it but as it turns out it was the worse kind.
Great video Ben. Passing the rope bottom->up also helps seeing the loops easier and prevent anyone from missing it. I learned and make it eversince exactly the same way, 100% perfect knots everytime, practice until you can do it blind folded and remember to always partner check!
Your teaching is very thorough and your accent is endearing. I particularly like the way you say "because"/"becorz." :D Thank you for the great lesson. I've been climbing for 5 years or so but finally just bought my own rope and I'm very excited!
Well done, very clear and understandable. I especially liked the addition of first-person shots so that you can see how it will look when tying your own
Happy I watch this! the belay class I took didn’t explain the knots and most of the knots being made would look different and now I understand why. Thanks for explaining it like you have done!
Very good instruction, explanation, and demonstration. I stumbled upon this video (i already know how to tie in😊) and just want to see someone explain it so I could teach my kids. You remind me of an instructor I had twenty years ago.
I’ve taught my kids to “go in hard” because of this knot. I saw your channel earlier today and subscribed because the channel name says it all ! Now I’m hooked.
RUclips Just needed this video, as you said most People don't explain the right way to do it. It took a bit of time to figure out the right way by my self, i think this video will help many people. Keep doing thoose videos they are very helpful.
It's worth noting which way you do the initial twists affects which way you should hold the figure 8 (line going to right or left) to get the load loop being the one that doesn't cause difficulty undoing the knot. If you follow this video exactly he's right to say hold the figure 8 so the line goes to the right. But if your initial twists are clockwise you should hold the figure 8 the other way up.
My American climbing friends have had a big discussion last night (after watching your video tutorial about how to tie a figure 8 knot that will be easy to untie after a hard fall). The biggest question that arose at that time was: "Where was this guy with his video when our instructors were teaching us how to tie up figure 8 knot and why no-one else came with this solution before ???? :-) ;-) ;-)
Hey man, this was by far the best tutorial on the follow through I’ve ever seen. I’m sure that the other 100s of videos teach us how to do it just fine, but your video actually had me feeling like I understood what was going on. Tysm
I tie it the same way except for the first part; on the second part I m never quite sure if the load line goes up or down, just that the nod is symmetric. I'll definitively apply that! Great job Ben, as a Physics graduate I ve always loved your science videos, keep them up! :))
i always taught that there is a tight side & a loose side therefore "the tight side is the right side". amazing how many climbers will argue that loading a knot incorrectly doesn't matter because they have done it that way forever and never had a failure.
The best tutorial I've seen. You took your time and explained it very well. I know how to do it now after multiple people tried to demonstrate it to me in person!
You’re video is awesome! I’m ex military and current fire fighter. Have spent a lot of time doing different disciplines of rope and mountaineer work, this video is great. Thanks and know you will be in powerpoints from here out.
I struggled a little because the rope coming from the harness into the initial 8 would enter from below into the 8 rather than above. I figured that it's because I twist the rope in the opposite direction in the very first step. It's not very important, there's a few ways to address it: 1. Twist in the other direction and follow the rest of the video precisely 2. Turn the knot around. The rope will go from the harness towards the left, but other than that the rest is the same, just mirrored 3. Third option is to pass *below* when looping around at the top and the bottom of the 8. In all three cases the knot is the same. Thanks for the video!! P.S.: Since many seemed to disagree on the double fisher know: in Switzerland they teach you to use a double eight without any additional knot.
6:20 "they type of person that can miss a hole" - Which under cold, wet, stressful , sleep-deprived, time-sensitive etc. conditions it is very possible to do. Human factors are often discounted as being down to low competency, and this attitude has and still does cost lives.
I always have a sling on the left so the rope goes on the right side of the belay loop. Thanks though I will try that out soon. Oh and if the knot holds more than 10kN, don’t worry about which one is stronger. Your body will literally break apart if there is an impact of 10 or more kN on your body ;)
Very good explannation. I think it is better to put the rope trough the 3 loops : -lower loop -belay loop -upper loop Trough belay loop it avoid to tear the harness in some situation where you are attached to a fixed point by your rope and you retain a big shock on the belay loop.
Great job at explaining the motions and reasons for each motion👍🏻 I’ve been doing this for years and didn’t know it is an uncommon way of tying the eight. I just decided one day to start using a measurement(typically I pull to my shoulder socket) and knew that to get a figure eight you twist one more time then a overhand. And found it easier to teach clients then the stupid “snowman” story thing.
The other day I had a 10yr old very excitedly tell me the figure 8 is called a "guy knot" 😂 because he was taught the "noose around the guy's head and stab him in the eye" method
@@jacklyncheung4993ya we were told to wrap his scarf and poke him in the eye. Whoever told that kid the snowman stories got him to remember it and have that translate to righting the knot right which is great.. but I like the scarf instead of the noose since it’s less dark and doesn’t remind me or anyone else effected someone who died from one. But ya the snowman stories work for a lot of people but having known and seen many other people either not “get” the story and how it relates to what you do, or not remember the story in a way that helps them tie it right. I decided to go with the “measure,twist,twist put rope through loop and pull” method I had taught myself (I was one of those people that couldn’t understand the snowman story) The snow man method is great but also good to have other ways to explain something incase it doesn’t click for someone.
Ok I've watched several videos. Your spirit and approach make you undeniably unique and interesting. Keep it up. I'm not saying people should follow you blindly, but you certainly provide a model for individual, critical thinking giving people something to think about and this was a great example follow up of how and why to tie a dang knot!
Man what a great vid! I’ve climbed for 15 years and this is the best explanation I’ve seen and heard. Same with your previous vid to untie it and where the load is placed. I’m definitely taking this info for when teaching new friends the figure 8, thanks!! Sub’d for sure!
@Hard Is Easy To remember the way to tie: start hard, finish easy!
(Start hard by pushing the rope to the side and finish easy by going through the big hole :) )
Yeaaa this is super nice!!! I love it!!!
I prefer 'start small, finish big' - it's more accurate to what you're actually doing, and a more natural phrase that won't get confused ("start easy, finish hard" makes a lot more sense than "start big, finish small").
@@Phazaar I get what you're saying, but start hard finish easy is something a lot of us heard as kids, guessing op did too, as in study hard now and you won't have to struggle as an adult
I learned “skinny hole, fat hole” 😂
Пожалуй это самый толковый видеоурок, спасибо !!!
Finally someone actually explained what the correct figure 8 looks like and how to tie it step by step. Thanks a lot, man, good job
aaah nice thanks!
Also someone who actually puts the camera in the perspective of our eyes when tying a knot. All other videos puts the camera in the perspective of watching someone else tying a knot.
@@HardIsEasy I see lots of videos and they were all really good but yours is the ultimate best
Thank you! My son is an adaptive climber. I just took a belay class at his gym and had a challenging time with the fig 8. Your video smoothed me out and I am now feeling more confident about belaying him.
dude your the only one on youtube who properly explained and showed how to tie in from the top, amazing tutorial, thasnks!
Yea it's a long video teaching you how to save time :D But this video is a part of coming Belay Masterclass and little details make a huge difference in critical situations. So climb safe and smile more ;)
😃 smiling always helps 😁
I think you misunderstood the reason why some people tie a 'safety knot'. You're right it doesn't add any strength to the knot but that is not why it is tied. It is tied simply to ensure that your tail is long enough. No need to guess the length - if you can tie the safety knot then you have enough. Also it should be cinched down neatly on top of the figure of 8, not like you show in the video. It never gets in the way like this.
Alex Webber if you have enough rope to tie off your Fig. Of Eight with a stopper you have too much tail. A hand span is sufficient. It also shows lack of mastery IMHO if you are not consistent.
@@beyondthepale2023 I do it because most gyms in the UK require it. I'm merely pointing out the correct logic and form, which is different to what is shown in this video.
So, if it is long, it’s wrong- the video that is... Not so, I found this video cleverly edited, a great casually thorough verbal presentation, and perfectly presented. Whomever did the video work and edited it - WELL DONE! I’m going to use this for tying in to my bosun’s chair for going up the mast! It’ll take a little practice though.
Brilliant video! Been tying figure 8’s for 20 years now, and this is the best method ever! Perfect knot every time. Thank you!
Never climbed a day in my life, yet here I am learning these knots. Thanks COVID.
This is your time Jack! Get after it (-=
Its a call 😜
I refuse to thank convid for anything
@@dannylaing5585 korinthenkacker...
Knots are useful tools for many applications 😄
I am 72 years old and needed
little 'reminders' and you are the perfect instructor.Superb and many thanks.
Who knew you could spend 13 minutes talking about the humble figure 8 knot? Absolutely fascinating... thank-you for sharing!
Bonus point for explaining what figure of 8 is for and is not for! Hats off from a sailor.
Although my kids learned the figure 8 at the gym, I've shown them this vid then walked them through it and it's become the way they always tie in now. It just 'clicked' for them. Mahalo and Aloha.
When I had saw that the video is 13 minutes long I thought it's impossible to make the interesting and useful video 'how to tie a figure 8 knot' that is so long. I was wrong. Good job. Now I know good video for newbies (and not only newbies) that teach to tie figure 8 with many useful details.
Ah great! I'll cover many more basics before going into depth on Belaying ;)
You are one of the best instructors out there. step by step and explaining WHY certain thing should be the way they are makes it "stick" so much better. Excellent work, and thank you very much.
I appreciate that!
I use a little tip to help my students to remember how to start and finish the follow through part. I say that they need to start small and finish big (referring to the sizes of the holes formed by the rope in one or the other side of the strand you need to follow. Little complicate to explain in a writing form but very easy to see and understand.
Finally someone speaking sense about unnecessary stopper knots!
I learned so much, I always thought that the figure 8 had no down sides, but the cross loading is something I never thought about. Its super facinating
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This is the only video that could teach me how to tie the first figure 8 knot.
In my country, we need to pass a practical exam for belaying. I was so stressed because I could not tie a figure 8 knot consistently and I did not know why I can’t do so.
Luckily RUclips lead me to this video and I learnt how to tie the knot in the most simple way. Thanks so much!!
I used this method in ropejumping:) Hello from Ukraine!))
I have 30 years climbing experience and degree in math, so I think about knots and symmetry a lot. But I never noticed that one symmetry is easier to untie than the other, and I've never heard any other climber note this either. Did you figure this out on your own? Kudos!
Thank you so much! If you haven't seen my another video this is how I discovered it: ruclips.net/video/QAr-uHd8h8o/видео.html
@@makingadjustments being bitter every time you see someone achieve something says more about you
Honestly no one cares lol
Hmmm, interesting finding.
@@notthebees4961I don't see why he is being bitter about it 🤔
Really nice lesson. If not climbed for a decade but all the instruction videos didn't seem to match what little i could remember. Finally found the right video and the right way before my refresher course. Thanks
Loved the way you suggested .....To blindfold and make knots .......Helpful in night.......Many don't tell this .......I like the way you explain to cover in 360'.........The kNots were easy just because you explained so well
Thank you, your slow detailed walkthrough got me tying figure 8 knots on my first try.
Every new climber should be subscribed to your channel. I have probably watched over 100 videos at least and you are by far, the most knowledgeable and I learn so much watching your instruction. You explain EVERYTHING in such detail you can't help but absorb the information. I assume you also teach, your students are very lucky to have you. So far I have learned the correct way to tie a figure of eight and I have never had an issue untying it while I have seen others struggle and using screwdrivers to get them untied. My instructors said just follow the rope, it didn't matter. I have also learned that the rope needs to be over the figure eight descender, not on the bottom side or it could scrape up against a rock wall and roll over and jam you up. My instructors said it didn't matter, over or under, makes no difference. There are of course other things I have learned watching you, those are just a couple of mentions. Thank you for providing this content, it will save a life, I guarantee you it will.
I will not ever be climbing but I felt it necessary to learn this knot. Thanks
This video FINALLY made me realise why some of my figure 8s were off. Foolproof. Thanks so much!
I used to be an Alpine Guide in Piedmont and Val D'Aosta, Italy. Your video about making a double-eight knot is spot on! Bravo!
Great! The rope goes on top of the knot to follow the line, and finally I got the right 8! Thanks, man!
I'm a beginner wall climber and this is a great tutorial. Thankyou.
I think everyone here knows the 8 knot but you give these little extra advice that you get from years of experience that are the real lesson here!
I’m not even a climber and enjoyed everything on this video 🤟🏽
I like the explanation of how to tie into the harness. Especially the non dominant side tip. To add another reason, using both leg and waist loops adds redundancy, which is good.
Two minutes in and already one of the best instructional videos I've seen. Love the subtle humor, and way to tell em that it don't need no back up! However, I'd just like to add that the orientation of the initial part of the knot, where you say "it should be on the left not the right" around 7:30, doesn't actually matter, you can achieve a clean figure 8 either way, you just have to follow it the correct way.
I agree. This dude explains stuff so idiots like me can understand
The orientation in the video makes it easier imo since it's easier to put the second loops on top of the existing loops. If you tie the knot with the line going to the left, putting the second loops on top, that's how you end up with the loop of the load end of the rope being on top rather than below (and thus a rope that's difficult to open after a hard fall) Although TBH in my limited experience of top roping this has never happened anyway - the only gotcha we had with things being difficult to open was if we screwed the locking carabiner for the belay device snug and then it tightens more when you load it. My instructor taught the way being shown in this video - with the exception that he didn't show the fancy twisting at the beginning - but did have the line going to the right. He also gave us a cut off of rope to practise. When I practised at home I did it the other way but added the twist (which I'd seen others do) Obviously both knots are safe but having watched this video I've swapped now.
Thank you buddy for a great video! Note that the control knot in the figure eight is required on slippery climbing ropes (for example, Mammut Serenity dry 8.7). I have repeatedly lost a strand of the eight, if i do not impose a control knot on long mountaineering ascents. I recommend checking the knot periodically on long climbing routes.
On long climbs the checking is more important and easier without the control knot. On a brand new 'slippery' rope even on short climbs I'd use the extra stopper.
One of the better explanation gurus on RUclips. This guy is a legend and pretty sure genuinely a nice guy. You will not find clearer explanations of climbing techniques or apparel on the internet. ❤
This video is really a revelation. I had sometimes strange knots after a fall, now I see the difference. And of course, so much easier to untie. THANKS!
Which one is easier to untie?
Excellent video, been tying and teaching this way for years, even down to the slight press of the eight when starting the rethread, after stumbling on the same knot loading based on strand position a while back, as well as having accidentally clipped a loose tail and a knotted tail while being in close to a bolt.
A couple additional notes is bringing the knot in close, close enough to tension the tie in points, will reduce how much the knot rotates around the tie in points during a fall. This has the benefit of decreasing the likelihood of being flipped as well as decreasing wear on the harness by distributing this evenly between the tie in points and not grinding the nylon rope against nylon loops.
As to tying in top down or bottom up, easier to see you are hitting both loops from the bottom, thus the idea of top down “incase you miss one” being likelier to cause the miss. Further, because the leg loops are likelier to slide upward than the waist belt is to slide downward, this means the knot will generally be better centered and therefore distribute the load better. Using the top down method, you have to maintain tension for a couple passes of the knot to position the knot. These are both utterly minimal benefits, but if all other matters are equal then learn the minimally better one.
Thanks for the notes ;)
I loved it when you said "do you think I'm crazy enough to do this? Hell ya." With evil laugh. Too funny!
Very in depth tutorial. U went over everything important at the perfect pace.
Thanks Zake!
I was taught to follow through on the “outside” of the figure 8 which gives you this perfect knot. Never knew it was the best!
Same. I noticed that while he was showing it, and the crossed knots drives me crazy lol
Hi there I ve bern climbing since sept21 roughly 3 times a week for 2hrs. I did giggled at " people that can miss a loop" first time when i watched this video few months ago. Until yesterday, when i tied my figure 8 only through the hip loop. Nothing bad happened (apart from discomfort on the way down) but lesson learned about routine, staying aware and checking each other.
The mnemonic I was taught to remember how to tie a clean knot like the one in this video is "outside, outside, in." You Push the working end through on the outside of the line you are tracing the first 2 times, then finish on the inside. I was also taught an easier way to tighten the knot. Hold both strands beneath the knot with one hand. Pull each strand above the know individually. Then swap: hold both strands above with one hand while pulling the two below individually. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks a lot. Perfect instruction, with a nice pace to follow along easily. Also, love the way you explain all the variations and why to do or not to do.
I spent a lot of time sitting in my harness today and my knots were really hard to untie - this video was just what I needed, thank you!
Learned 1st the way with the excess length from a bad instructor. Then a year later when old enough in cub scouts I did the survival class and learned the way you recommended for everything from climbing to water rescue tieing off to boats before throwing out a rescue knot or preserver. The instructor even taught us the double bunny ear style for bear bags. Figure 8's are great for everything in life even a paracord keyring.
One of the best climbing educational channels. Bless you)
I love the level of analysis. I spent 3 days myself looking for safe variations of the bowline to have a knot that is easier to untie. Little did I know there was a better way to tie a figure of 8. I even had a reapeatable, habitual way of tying it but as it turns out it was the worse kind.
Try it and let us know if it's easier to untie ;)
Best figure 8 demonstration ever, nice one dude
I just did a week long climbing course and I loved every second of it I do not regret my choice of going
thanks a lot for this clear explanation without any fancy blabla!
I am loving these videos so much they are so comprehensive
I have watched 8 videos on tying figure 8’s. Finally I get it by watching you.
Serious, I tired an REI video and it only made it more complicated. lol This guy knows whats up!
Great video Ben. Passing the rope bottom->up also helps seeing the loops easier and prevent anyone from missing it.
I learned and make it eversince exactly the same way, 100% perfect knots everytime, practice until you can do it blind folded and remember to always partner check!
Yea good point... I also think that top down is easier to mess up... Thanks!
Best tutorial ive seen! Thanks from a climbing noob! 😁❤🙏
Excellent, the best knot tutorial in youtube!
Your teaching is very thorough and your accent is endearing. I particularly like the way you say "because"/"becorz." :D Thank you for the great lesson. I've been climbing for 5 years or so but finally just bought my own rope and I'm very excited!
Haha thank you so much, and good news for you, becorz many more videos like this coming ;)
You are the best climbing - video - guy on the webs :)
This is so useful - finally I know how to consistently tie a good figure of 8. Thanks!
Well done, very clear and understandable. I especially liked the addition of first-person shots so that you can see how it will look when tying your own
Best video by far on this topic. Will be saving this for future reference WAY more clear than other videos and direct.
Happy I watch this! the belay class I took didn’t explain the knots and most of the knots being made would look different and now I understand why. Thanks for explaining it like you have done!
It’s the little things in life that make a big difference sometimes, cool vid. I’ll watch this a few more times to get it embedded in my mind.
Very good instruction, explanation, and demonstration. I stumbled upon this video (i already know how to tie in😊) and just want to see someone explain it so I could teach my kids. You remind me of an instructor I had twenty years ago.
Dude, you're a really good teacher, and that's not easy. Congrats! love your videos. Have been training falling and it feels great!
I’ve taught my kids to “go in hard” because of this knot. I saw your channel earlier today and subscribed because the channel name says it all ! Now I’m hooked.
RUclips Just needed this video, as you said most People don't explain the right way to do it. It took a bit of time to figure out the right way by my self, i think this video will help many people.
Keep doing thoose videos they are very helpful.
same here... It took me a while to learn my way... and I saw how other students are struggling... Thanks!
Thanks to your video I finally understood where I usually messed up my knots
Best knot video I've seen so far!!
I like this video becourse he is a good teacher.
It's worth noting which way you do the initial twists affects which way you should hold the figure 8 (line going to right or left) to get the load loop being the one that doesn't cause difficulty undoing the knot. If you follow this video exactly he's right to say hold the figure 8 so the line goes to the right. But if your initial twists are clockwise you should hold the figure 8 the other way up.
My American climbing friends have had a big discussion last night (after watching your video tutorial about how to tie a figure 8 knot that will be easy to untie after a hard fall). The biggest question that arose at that time was: "Where was this guy with his video when our instructors were teaching us how to tie up figure 8 knot and why no-one else came with this solution before ???? :-) ;-) ;-)
Awwww :)))) Yea I needed that guy when I was learning this as well... Took a while to figure out what that follow through means...
Hey man, this was by far the best tutorial on the follow through I’ve ever seen. I’m sure that the other 100s of videos teach us how to do it just fine, but your video actually had me feeling like I understood what was going on. Tysm
This is a better and easier way of tying fig 8 knot, thanks mate
first video to show specific pov finally thank you
Perfect video for refreshing my memory. Thanks.
the best tutorial I have found. thanks a lot
Thanks for the refresher! I hadn't climbed in 8 years. This was perfect for getting certified at the new gym.
I tie it the same way except for the first part; on the second part I m never quite sure if the load line goes up or down, just that the nod is symmetric. I'll definitively apply that!
Great job Ben, as a Physics graduate I ve always loved your science videos, keep them up! :))
Haa thanks a lot! I'm sure you gonna dig the next video I'll make :D It will have real physics :D
i always taught that there is a tight side & a loose side therefore "the tight side is the right side". amazing how many climbers will argue that loading a knot incorrectly doesn't matter because they have done it that way forever and never had a failure.
The best Chanel I have ever seen treasure of knowledge 🌟❤️
The best tutorial I've seen. You took your time and explained it very well. I know how to do it now after multiple people tried to demonstrate it to me in person!
One of the best climbing channels, keep going and I'm waiting for more!!
Great dedication to make a video about figure 8. Explained superbly, thanks! :)
Going to climb tomorrow, this was very useful! Thanks 😊🙏
Hope you enjoyed it ;)
Gone climbing lesson (2 sessions ) a year and didn't pay attention, now totally forgot how ....thanks for that tutorial and tips.
What a fantastic tutorial!!!
Thankl so much from Australia!
You’re video is awesome! I’m ex military and current fire fighter. Have spent a lot of time doing different disciplines of rope and mountaineer work, this video is great. Thanks and know you will be in powerpoints from here out.
Thank You ;) I'm sure you gonna like the full MasterClass I'm gonna start releasing soon ;)
I struggled a little because the rope coming from the harness into the initial 8 would enter from below into the 8 rather than above. I figured that it's because I twist the rope in the opposite direction in the very first step.
It's not very important, there's a few ways to address it:
1. Twist in the other direction and follow the rest of the video precisely
2. Turn the knot around. The rope will go from the harness towards the left, but other than that the rest is the same, just mirrored
3. Third option is to pass *below* when looping around at the top and the bottom of the 8.
In all three cases the knot is the same.
Thanks for the video!!
P.S.: Since many seemed to disagree on the double fisher know: in Switzerland they teach you to use a double eight without any additional knot.
Refreshing to watch the Euro slant, you are genius at teaching, I find the Americans aggravating at times.
i now tie my knot like this guy. Thanks man! subscribed! Keep making videos please!
💯 The best video on this knot! Bravo. Thank you!
Best content on the internet. This video needs to be perma-pinned to the top of the RUclips website.
RUclips! Listen to this man!
6:20 "they type of person that can miss a hole" - Which under cold, wet, stressful , sleep-deprived, time-sensitive etc. conditions it is very possible to do. Human factors are often discounted as being down to low competency, and this attitude has and still does cost lives.
I took it as inuendo. 😋 I think mine was funnier.
Never had any problems with to correct figure 8 knot
Still watching it till the end
I always have a sling on the left so the rope goes on the right side of the belay loop. Thanks though I will try that out soon.
Oh and if the knot holds more than 10kN, don’t worry about which one is stronger. Your body will literally break apart if there is an impact of 10 or more kN on your body ;)
It's a little nuance, but if you are a right handed it should be more ergonomic to do the way I showed in the video :)
Very good explannation.
I think it is better to put the rope trough the 3 loops :
-lower loop
-belay loop
-upper loop
Trough belay loop it avoid to tear the harness in some situation where you are attached to a fixed point by your rope and you retain a big shock on the belay loop.
Great job at explaining the motions and reasons for each motion👍🏻
I’ve been doing this for years and didn’t know it is an uncommon way of tying the eight. I just decided one day to start using a measurement(typically I pull to my shoulder socket) and knew that to get a figure eight you twist one more time then a overhand. And found it easier to teach clients then the stupid “snowman” story thing.
The other day I had a 10yr old very excitedly tell me the figure 8 is called a "guy knot" 😂 because he was taught the "noose around the guy's head and stab him in the eye" method
@@jacklyncheung4993ya we were told to wrap his scarf and poke him in the eye. Whoever told that kid the snowman stories got him to remember it and have that translate to righting the knot right which is great.. but I like the scarf instead of the noose since it’s less dark and doesn’t remind me or anyone else effected someone who died from one. But ya the snowman stories work for a lot of people but having known and seen many other people either not “get” the story and how it relates to what you do, or not remember the story in a way that helps them tie it right. I decided to go with the “measure,twist,twist put rope through loop and pull” method I had taught myself (I was one of those people that couldn’t understand the snowman story)
The snow man method is great but also good to have other ways to explain something incase it doesn’t click for someone.
Ok I've watched several videos. Your spirit and approach make you undeniably unique and interesting. Keep it up. I'm not saying people should follow you blindly, but you certainly provide a model for individual, critical thinking giving people something to think about and this was a great example follow up of how and why to tie a dang knot!
Man what a great vid! I’ve climbed for 15 years and this is the best explanation I’ve seen and heard. Same with your previous vid to untie it and where the load is placed. I’m definitely taking this info for when teaching new friends the figure 8, thanks!! Sub’d for sure!
Excellent instructions. I paid 90 euro for a course and they didn’t explain it well. Learning it from you.
The main problem with the "safety knot" 1:50 is that in case of a fall it will maybe hit your solar plexus which will hurt very badly...