I know this is an old video, but super helpful for my 40 year old HR215. The tip to tension the spring to get it to stay on the white hub is gold. My rope wouldn't pull back in all the way. Maybe the spring is weak. So regardless of the advice to wind the spring no more than 3.5 turns I gave it one more... 4.5 turns and now the rope winds back nicely! Worse case, the spring breaks and I'm buying and installing a new one... practice makes perfect! Lol.
mega thx for this video! Had to fix my honda lawnmower, with a new spring.. sadly i had to recoil the spring 3 times as it is REALLY crappy to get the plastic housing in..
When i pull the rope the metal plate Just spins with it without poping the thing that's pops out on the side.. and if i put a little tension on the plate than its works fine but if a tighten the bolt Just slightly then the rope wont come out to the tension.
Thanks for sharing. My was not working because big spring visible at 7.25 was rust and too tight. After cleaning and adding some lube it is working finally.
When linking the inner spring end to the rope pulley slot, get the spring loop close to the centre spindle and when the pulley is offered onto the spindle and turned clockwise the pulley slot will pick up the spring loop
Thanks for the help! ironic you tell people correctly to wear eye protection, but don't have anything on yourself. You can wind it up all the way, which will give it a good tension on the rope. I would put the cap on the spring before putting the rope on. Put a dab of bearing grease on the spring before closing it up, since that will last longer than a squirt of WD40. I made the mistake of winding my spring on the wrong way, so have to do it over now.
Don't know if you have one but I have a honda hr17 that I picked up ripped cord spring came out your a life saver but I seem to be having a problem with fuel delivery don't wanna rip the carb of since I'm no expert on how to any chance you have a video
It’s definitely helpful my Honda is a HRU 196 set up is different but am going to see if I can sort it .. I already tampered with it before I watched clips 🙈
Awesome tutorial and thanks for sharing. I'm totalling trying this method tomorrow. I watched my dad fix one when I was a kid the same way.. He's a "Jack of all Trades". But due to the Covid-19 he is stuck back home in Chile. Glad I found this video . Stsy safe everyone 🤧😷. Blessings from a Chilean Latina woman in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada 🇨🇱🇨🇦🥰😘💜💙
Thanks for dropping a comment Karen. Good to hear you're going to knock it out yourself and let me know how you make out. Wear safety glasses. Stay safe!
Here is a tip. Install the pull rope into the inner piece first leaving the handle end open. Pre-wind the pull rope around the plastic disc, then hook it into the notch and use the rope to tension the spring, counter-clockwise about 3.5 turns, Thread the rope through the outer hole and install the handle. For the spring steel, after heating and bending, quench in some motor oil. Wear some goggles. That will make the steel stronger. By heating you normalize the steel, to harden, you need to quench.
Don't have to get it quite that hot to anneal it enough to bend without breaking. After bending, if you heat it again and let it cool it relieves the stress from bending and should be less prone to breaking again. The hardness is the actually what causes them to break in use, and when trying to bend without annealing. If a guy wants to return the hardness just quench it instead of allowing to air cool.
Thankyou so much! My tab hasn't been coming out easily when I pull the starter, I have to fling it out and catch the cylinder (if that makes sense) I've now realised when seeing this video that my coil is wound nearly enough!
At 7:30 in your video it is not clear to me how that spring lines up. Is one side of spring on each side of cylinder shaped tab? Or what? I can't tightened top part all the way so rope doesn't retract if I tighten it. But I put retracting device on mower and it doesn't engage the engine.
Glad you got it. I had to tap out I couldn’t get the coil to attach to the plastic pulley. Possible I don’t the configuration but I think worst design I ever seen. Maybe someone else can take the time to make it there’s. I don’t have the patients
When I pull on the cord, it keeps spinning but not getting the mower to start. Now I was informed that it was probably a broken pin. I know nothing about engines but I am trying to learn. I do not have a parts manual because i bought the mower used.
Could have just dipped the red hot end of the starter spring in some water or oil real quick and re-hardened the steel. There will be a soft spot still where the red hot steel meets the not red hot, but at least it will be in a spot that doesn't take as much strain as the hook
4:13 Can you regain hardness by dunking the hot steel into ice water and temper it? 🤷♂ I'm sure tempering is more complex than that, but it's worth a shot!
That would be an interesting video, though. Take two pieces of spring steel and heat them up red hot. Then dunk one into ice water and let the other air cool as a "control group". Then subject each to stress and see if the tempered piece is stronger.
I was given one by a fellow who died and it has always started after 10 years I owned it. But the starter rope does not retract all the way in. I will see whether the vid helps me resolve the problem. Mine will start, but a foot of rope remains outside the housing and whatever spring pulls the rope back in may have some problem... Watched the first 3 minutes and the guy does not impress me as knowing much about this...
Ur a good guy but I've never done this before. Too fast, too far away. Ur throwing stuff around. I can't see what notch you're trying to slip that string into I don't know which way you want me to turn it in relation to which way it's supposed to me. You forgot to tell me that 1 of the screws is a reverse thread or if he did you set it so fast I missed it sorry but too fast for me you must be from Pennsylvania because I can never understand Pennsylvania guys not that you not a good guy, I'm sure you're a good guy just too fast for me.
I agree with you that this video could be much better and definitely needs much improvement. I appreciate your comment, and thank you for pointing out the flaws. It's certainly too fast paced and the camera should have been much closer. What can I say, I'm a rookie amateur filmmaker. LOL
After 5 days of frustration trying to reinsert the bloody spring, I found your video, I have now fixed the pull start. Thank you from Australia.
Yeah they can be real stubborn without using a proper technique. Glad the video helped out. Thanks!
I know this is an old video, but super helpful for my 40 year old HR215. The tip to tension the spring to get it to stay on the white hub is gold.
My rope wouldn't pull back in all the way. Maybe the spring is weak. So regardless of the advice to wind the spring no more than 3.5 turns I gave it one more... 4.5 turns and now the rope winds back nicely! Worse case, the spring breaks and I'm buying and installing a new one... practice makes perfect! Lol.
Excellent video! You saved me $50 & a 60mile round trip to town!!!
Glad I could help!
You’re video just helped me fix a compactor on the job site. Thanks for the straight forward tutorial.
No problem Jordan! Glad it was helpful
Thanks, your video saved me ~ $85. Not too long, fun, helpful and down to earth with your explanations. Thanks!!
No problem! Glad it was helpful. Thanks for dropping a comment
thanks Chris - watch your videos all time - honda pull recoil rewind was real help - you hero !!
Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Cheers from Australia, was just about to throw the whole lawnmower in the bin before I found your video!
mega thx for this video! Had to fix my honda lawnmower, with a new spring.. sadly i had to recoil the spring 3 times as it is REALLY crappy to get the plastic housing in..
When i pull the rope the metal plate Just spins with it without poping the thing that's pops out on the side.. and if i put a little tension on the plate than its works fine but if a tighten the bolt Just slightly then the rope wont come out to the tension.
Sounds like you might be missing a spacer
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow No i have checked over and over and i have all the parts..
Thanks for sharing. My was not working because big spring visible at 7.25 was rust and too tight. After cleaning and adding some lube it is working finally.
Thanks NoNonsense! Good job, for fixing everything that can go wrong, got it all !!!
No problem Jim! Thanks
Great video on how to replace the starter spring and pull cord. Thanks much!
When linking the inner spring end to the rope pulley slot, get the spring loop close to the centre spindle and when the pulley is offered onto the spindle and turned clockwise the pulley slot will pick up the spring loop
that is what I did it clicked right in getting ready to put the rope through gut it was greasy and slipping so I wiped it down
Thanks for adding some tips
This was VERY helpful - fixed my mower today. Thanks a million for posting.
Awesome to hear, thanks a million for commenting!
Thank you. Your video was helpful in replacing pull rope on Honda HR214.
Glad it helped
Thanks for the help! ironic you tell people correctly to wear eye protection, but don't have anything on yourself. You can wind it up all the way, which will give it a good tension on the rope. I would put the cap on the spring before putting the rope on. Put a dab of bearing grease on the spring before closing it up, since that will last longer than a squirt of WD40. I made the mistake of winding my spring on the wrong way, so have to do it over now.
Haha, yes very ironic. I guess the point is don't be dumb like me! LOL. Thanks for your comment, and glad to hear it helped out some. :)
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow or me, can't believe I couldn't figure out I wound it backward.
Don't know if you have one but I have a honda hr17 that I picked up ripped cord spring came out your a life saver but I seem to be having a problem with fuel delivery don't wanna rip the carb of since I'm no expert on how to any chance you have a video
Awesome video. Shows most of the things that can happen when working with a pull cord.
Thanks so much for sharing this video, i 've tried it and it worked
No problem! Glad to hear it was helpful
It’s definitely helpful my Honda is a HRU 196 set up is different but am going to see if I can sort it .. I already tampered with it before I watched clips 🙈
Awesome tutorial and thanks for sharing. I'm totalling trying this method tomorrow. I watched my dad fix one when I was a kid the same way.. He's a "Jack of all Trades". But due to the Covid-19 he is stuck back home in Chile. Glad I found this video . Stsy safe everyone 🤧😷. Blessings from a Chilean Latina woman in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada 🇨🇱🇨🇦🥰😘💜💙
Thanks for dropping a comment Karen. Good to hear you're going to knock it out yourself and let me know how you make out. Wear safety glasses. Stay safe!
Thanks a lot for all your help!
Nice video 👍 👌 thanks for your time
Here is a tip. Install the pull rope into the inner piece first leaving the handle end open. Pre-wind the pull rope around the plastic disc, then hook it into the notch and use the rope to tension the spring, counter-clockwise about 3.5 turns, Thread the rope through the outer hole and install the handle. For the spring steel, after heating and bending, quench in some motor oil. Wear some goggles. That will make the steel stronger. By heating you normalize the steel, to harden, you need to quench.
Don't have to get it quite that hot to anneal it enough to bend without breaking. After bending, if you heat it again and let it cool it relieves the stress from bending and should be less prone to breaking again. The hardness is the actually what causes them to break in use, and when trying to bend without annealing. If a guy wants to return the hardness just quench it instead of allowing to air cool.
Thanks for the tips
Thanks for the info.
Thanks mate. Life saver.
No problem man, thanks for the comment!
It help me a lot thank you
Thankyou so much! My tab hasn't been coming out easily when I pull the starter, I have to fling it out and catch the cylinder (if that makes sense) I've now realised when seeing this video that my coil is wound nearly enough!
At 7:30 in your video it is not clear to me how that spring lines up. Is one side of spring on each side of cylinder shaped tab? Or what? I can't tightened top part all the way so rope doesn't retract if I tighten it. But I put retracting device on mower and it doesn't engage the engine.
thanks for this video, really helped me out a lot
matt sheeran no problem!
Glad you got it. I had to tap out I couldn’t get the coil to attach to the plastic pulley. Possible I don’t the configuration but I think worst design I ever seen. Maybe someone else can take the time to make it there’s. I don’t have the patients
thanks mate
Good video. I wish I had watched before pulling the white part out. That was unnecessary since all I had to do was replace the broken rope.
When I pull on the cord, it keeps spinning but not getting the mower to start. Now I was informed that it was probably a broken pin. I know nothing about engines but I am trying to learn. I do not have a parts manual because i bought the mower used.
Is it turning the engine over?
Did you end up figuring it out? For some reason I just saw this comment now
Thank you so much
Thank you.
Video is good
Very useful, thank you!
Could have just dipped the red hot end of the starter spring in some water or oil real quick and re-hardened the steel. There will be a soft spot still where the red hot steel meets the not red hot, but at least it will be in a spot that doesn't take as much strain as the hook
Yeah that's not a bad idea
Always a PITA to put spring n string on
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4:13 Can you regain hardness by dunking the hot steel into ice water and temper it? 🤷♂ I'm sure tempering is more complex than that, but it's worth a shot!
That would be an interesting video, though. Take two pieces of spring steel and heat them up red hot. Then dunk one into ice water and let the other air cool as a "control group". Then subject each to stress and see if the tempered piece is stronger.
I was given one by a fellow who died and it has always started after 10 years I owned it. But the starter rope does not retract all the way in. I will see whether the vid helps me resolve the problem. Mine will start, but a foot of rope remains outside the housing and whatever spring pulls the rope back in may have some problem... Watched the first 3 minutes and the guy does not impress me as knowing much about this...
Watch the whole thing. He knows all about it and can fix whatever goes wrong with it! Including what you need to do on your starter.
Ur a good guy but I've never done this before. Too fast, too far away. Ur throwing stuff around. I can't see what notch you're trying to slip that string into I don't know which way you want me to turn it in relation to which way it's supposed to me. You forgot to tell me that 1 of the screws is a reverse thread or if he did you set it so fast I missed it sorry but too fast for me you must be from Pennsylvania because I can never understand Pennsylvania guys not that you not a good guy, I'm sure you're a good guy just too fast for me.
I agree with you that this video could be much better and definitely needs much improvement. I appreciate your comment, and thank you for pointing out the flaws. It's certainly too fast paced and the camera should have been much closer. What can I say, I'm a rookie amateur filmmaker. LOL
I do hope that it at least gave you a little bit of insight into the pull start system of this lawn mower though
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow I need help so bad. Different type mower and I'm SO CLOSE!! doing this for a buddy
thanks for this video.
Thanks Bro