The History of American Police and the Ku Klux Klan | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
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The History of American Police and the Ku Klux Klan | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
For years protesters have chanted that the 'cops and klan go hand in hand'. Today, we discuss the very real history behind that, and how it influenced the birth of American policing.
Original Air Date: June 23, 2020
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So many people in the south don't get taught this stuff. I'm 40 and grew up in the South, and they don't like to admit how bad it is and was.
I wish my son didn't have to grow up in the South, but alas I am powerless.
Remember D.A.R.E. in middle school/junior high back in the '90s? During the lesson on "don't join a gang," the "school resource officer" (i.e., City cop that worked on campus) teaching the class straight-up said "My gang's bigger than any other gang" And that's when I began to learn that maybe I shouldn't trust the police.
Ten years later, said cop was forced to resign because he was embezzling from the school's Crimestoppers reward fund. He was convicted and sentenced to 2 years probation, repayment of the stolen money, and loss of his peace officer's license. I'd never have expected that!
Not nearly as bad but I have a much lower scale D.A.R.E. Story
So my father was a cop and when I saw him drinking I recited my DARE stuff at him and then the next day the DARE officer straight up says
Don’t try to call out your parents
They know what they’re doing and they can have a responsible amount of alcohol
My dad later died from his alcoholism
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Prop going off on one about how "the cows and pigs want to sit at our table" and I think this is the fundamental issue. If I met a cow or pig that asked to be treated as an equal, I would absolutely. (I might get a bit excited and want to know all about them and how they learned to talk and eventually be asked to leave the table, lol.) And Prop apologising for going off is like, I get the impulse to apologise because you feel like your taking over, but that's what Prop's on the podcast to do: react in a human way to being told all this inhuman shit. Going on a rant about how people are people is the correct response to this.
EDIT: The MAYOR?
My dad grew up in the S Bronx between like 1957-1970 give or take a few years and always taught me police were racist as hell. He saw it happen every day
Kinda loving this guest I would love to hear them work together more often
I didn't learn how red lining carved up my own home town until I was in my mid 30s. I also didn't know how deep the Klan's ties to local politics went until that same time. Shit, the old international airport was named after a former Denver mayor who was a Klansmen. It never got renamed, either. It stayed Stapleton Airport from 1929 to its closure in 1995! They sure didn't teach us that shit in school, at least in my day. Fucking shameful.
Oh, and the governor who ordered the Sand Creek Massacre? We did at least learn who that asshole was when I was in school. But fun fact: Colorado just stopped naming mountains after that shitbag THIS MONTH!
BTW, John Evans, the governor of the Colorado Territory in 1864 would make a damn good subject for a future BTB.
My grandfather was born in marion county, virginia in 1922. He never wanted to talk about who his dad was, and even though he left a whole book of his life and time in WW2 (He was a left waist gunner in a b-17 from 1943-1944). We have tried to do geneology stuff to figure out who his dad was, and in doing that research we're almost 100% sure his mother was raped during her time as a "caretaker" on a big sharecropping plantation and that's why my grandfather never wanted to talk about who his dad was. It's insane to think that I'm 30 and that only a few generations before me and we're right back in the worst fucking period of american history. My grandfather mentions that his hometown was the home to a lot of confederate sympathizers. My grandfather was also a VOCAL anti fascist who hated the fucking nazis and constantly screamed at bushes dumb image on TV even when he was dying of cancer. His name was John Henry Jones, he went to war when he was 17 and joined the 8th USAAF 308th 561st bomb group stationed in polebrook, England. He saw friends die, almost died himself when his plane went down from flak. He flew 30 missions when the average survival rate was like 16 missions at best for most bomb groups. He shot down 2 nazi fighters single handedly, and still he turned out to be a better man than the piece of shit father I had who was just a racist drunken sex pest from Joplin, Missouri. How the fuck does that work out?
The mayor of Indianapolis was a Klan member in the '20s. They basically ran the state from 20-25, until their top guy was charged with the kidnapping, SA, and homicide of a white school teacher who had started an unsegregated adult literacy program.
Because the details were so horrific and the victim was sympathetic enough to most white folks, they actually prosecuted that crime. Said top Klansman (D.C. Stephenson) ratted out several high profile Klan members in exchange for leniency, and with the organization's image tarnished because of their history of terror, peaking with this scandal, membership cratered overnight.
What's particularly horrific about this case is that it was only able to be prosecuted because the school teacher, Madge Oberholtzer, was able to escape Stephenson's house and get to the police to tell them what had happened and show them the physical evidence of his crimes, including the bites that had become infected and would eventually lead to Stephenson's final charge of that list. Had she not been able to make it to someone to tell her story before she succumbed, they could have been able to operate even longer, and had who knows how many more victims.
I was in Medford earlier this year and on my way to the Table Rocks I happened to see "Robert L. Lee" on their water treatment plant. If that were my name, no way in hell am I using my middle initial.
why not? i would think differentiating oneself from Robert E. Lee would be the thing to do
@@banjohero1182 I'd probably insist on people calling me Rob, Bob, Bobby or Robbie. All things you could put in the middle with quotes or replace Robert entirely. Even insisting that they put your full middle name is better. Go by R. L. Lee, at least that way I'm thinking Goosebumps before confederate general.
The problem I have with "L" is that it is very close to "E" in appearance. So when you drive past at 40 MPH and it's in tiny gold letters on a brown building tucked behind another, they can look pretty similar.
it gets worse if you realize what that L probably stands for.
1:25:11 This kinda reminds me of the half of Jewish holidays where the sentiment seems to be, "They tried to kill us, but we survived, so let's eat."
I originally came up in the hoods of Palmdale and that place always been a Klan town. Like we knew where the grand whatever the fuck's house was. The time it got firebombed was the first time I was turned on
1:27:59 honestly even if it _was_ a legitimate "black uprising", you couldn't rule it as "self defence" by this point...
Hi, I was curious if you had a reference to Anaheim allowing police to patrol in kkk uniform?
Medford is more meth house than tea house
35:45 Born & Raised (until age 11) in Anaheim, California I did not know about the 4 of 5 city councilmen who were Klansmen, although I have seen plenty of photos of rallies, & I have heard that the Klan's presence was a deciding factor in why Walt Disney decided to locate Disneyland in Anaheim, rather than Burbank, and some similar story about Knott's Berry Farm.
Don’t know about Disney. He doesn’t seem to have been any particularly more racist than your average rich white man in America at the time. Seeing as the founder of Knotts Berry Farm was also one of the founders of the John Birch Society, that one’s more believable.
@@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks Knott's Berry Farm was an actual berry farm. It is where it is because that whole area used to be agricultural, and that's where the farm was.
It is insane that I'm an Oregon native and I am today years old learning this. I knew my state had serious issues with racism that seemed to clash with its 'liberal' politics. My school had a for real neo nazi and this was waaaaaaaaaay before the alt right was a thing. There was exactly one black person as my school and he left after a year. I didn't know the KKK ran a few of the cities for a big chunk of time.
Also just FYI Ackerman didn't only fight in the Confederate army he owned slaves himself and became a Colonel. So he did do some good things maybe out of genuine remorse but let's not let him off easy.
Real cop history: ✅
Sophie:✅
Prop:✅
Anderson:?
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Talking about "it's not in the textbooks"? Yeah man, it's insane. I'm from Duluth, MN. I graduated in 2001. In 2003 the city put up on a monument to the victims of a lynching that happened here in 1920. 2 years after I graduated was the first time I heard about it. Oh and the women that falsely accused the Black men of assault? Just the grandmother of the guy who was our police chief for 6 years, and spent 30 years with the department. Yeah, just wild. Oh and his brother was one of my civics/history teachers.