Tips and tricks for solar-powering your base. EMPYRION: GALACTIC SURVIVAL
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Well, this is the video that finally broke me. I finally verified my YT account so I can upload videos longer than 15 minutes. Thinking about how much good stuff I would have to cut out of this video to get it under 15 minutes, and how long that editing would take me... I couldn't bring myself to do it.
2024 learning from this, I was so tired of running out of power every night, thank you so much.
A year out of date but I still learned something for my current favorite game.Thanks bro.
Cheers man. I know its a few updates later - but it answered my noob question as to why my capacitors aren't working - consumption higher than solar is giving me.
Very informative video. Thank you very much. Makes up for the jumping
Glad it was helpful!
This really reminds me of the automation I had in EnderIO and AE2 in Minecraft Tecxit. I'm starting to fall in love with Empyrion!
How I wish Refined Storage worked on 1.7.10... (sigh)
Great video, I'm glad that they're still updating the game well into 2019! It's one of my favorites, and this was one of the best tutorials out there for this kinda thing! I was wondering why my base never operated well on solar!
To give Eleon a little credit: In Alpha 10 they did change constructors to have an "idle mode" so they take a lot less power while not constructing. But other things still consume a lot of power even just sitting there: ventilators, armor lockers, oxygen tanks... So I hope the basic lesson of turning off stuff when you're not using it is still helpful.
@@SaltyPuglord Yep, thanks for the great tutorial!
Great tutorial - but do me a favor and please stop bouncing around so much. I get motion sick, literally...lol
Gotcha, will stand still next time. Or at least take my audio from bouncing around and overdub it on footage of myself standing still, at least.
Well it's currently 2 years after this video has been made so now I have to try this out to see if it still works or still available but my friend thank you ingenious implementation of Switches and sensors.
Great tutorial... At last someone that explains what you need to do with perfect visuals as well. I'm subscribing so that I can pick your brains if i'm in trouble lol... Thank you
Great tutorial (well except for the bounce but you know that LOL). It's been MANY years since I had to do signal logic but it occurred to me that you could setup sensors around the base to detect your presence and use that to latch the plate on if you're still in the base. Haven't dived at ALL into the signal logic of Empyrion, it's on my "to do list" ;-} But that would be cool, you step on the plate, give it things to do and go elsewhere. Latches on while you're there, and as soon as you leave the base, OFF. Of course, you'd better not SLEEP in the base ...
Just a thought. Thanks for getting my feet wet on the signal stuff, and the solar info. I've got to debug mine, I'm running on generator right now and when I placed the panels they don't light up. "Capacitor in place and they're attached to the base facing east (only put three then stopped when it didn't work). Just odd ... I guess I'll hit up the Forums for an answer, but thanks again.
You can add sensors for room lights, for the construction room, medic room, etc. That usually does it.
Well done. Very informitive for me. Re-watched it in its entirety. Keep thses coming out. As you mentioned , there is a definite lack of ease for the new guys on how things work in game.
If you find any specific topics that badly need tutorials in the course of your play, let me know what they are. I have played for too long and no longer consciously realize all the traps for new players.
Hi there. I know you posted this video quite awhile ago, but I just found it and wanted to say thank you. I am getting into Empyrion and found your video extremely helpful. Thank you very much! :)
Glad it was useful!
I don't even play this game right now and I never used solar panels so far this video didn't help me at all because I don't care about this, I just liked the video because its so fuckin great.
Amazingly well detailed instructions, slow patient explanation, like a good teacher who really wants you to know this stuff and not just telling you all the information and then deal with it however you want. Amazing.
Good intro to the basics, only thing missing was a quick explanation of the solar panel lights for maximum efficiency. Now if there was some way of getting a 'busy processing' signal from the constructor you could feed that into your OR and it would start up as you got it started, keep running until it completed the job, then shut down automatically. Then you wouldn't need a basewide signal. I believe the other way of doing this is to have a 'main switch' on the wall that feeds into a power group - you flick that when you're in base to turn on your hungry machines and off to put it in standby (but running essentials) while you're away.
Very helpful. I had this exact problem in my current game of too much power draw, this explains it very well. Thank you.
I kept having to force myself to say "energy" instead of "power". I know well that kW are power (=energy per time), but if I say "power" then most people will think of something else. I did slip up and say power at least once... Anyway, the point is, solar panels produce POWER and the base consumes POWER. But I had to force myself to say "energy" so a less-technical audience would understand me more easily.
I'm somewhat new and I have been using the Obelisks to travel to the four moons around Crown and putting a base nearby the Obelisks which all seem to be close to or on the equator. I have been placeing four to six flat panels on the roof of each one and four capacitors as part of one wall. I never run out of power as so much is accumulated during daylight hours there is no loss. nI hae all the usual equipment in them including advanced constructors, med devices and extra cargo boxes and two refrigerators for the food processor.
Tiip: I have learned the hard way to empty my HV's fridge into the base's fridges so I can shut down my HV when I quit the game. I have tied a few HVs and some have been very disappointing. My goto HV now is the Desert Cat it has never let me down. It's a T2 and expensive, but what makes it so good is the size 2 hover engines and the dual hover boosters. Of course, it doesn't hurt that it has auto miniguns which is really helpful when I am stuck with enemies nearby and in the dark. Because...'BABY THE FREAKS COME OUT NIGHT.
A good trick I use is making two bases beside eachother, one to run the building/life support and another to run the turret grid. That way your base is really using 30 solar panels, rather than the usual cap of 15 which gives you more electrical headroom.
How do you do that? Do the bases have two separate cores but are connected?
We'll see what Vult says, but I suspect the answer is: They are two separate bases connected only by a walkway.
Wonderfully concise explanation that I found very watchable and informative. Thankyou!
I've sub'd for more.
Glad it was useful! Sadly, I have no idea how long it'll be before I can make some more Empyrion content. Be sure to check out Spanj, XCaliber and Kage848 for less irregular doses of E:GS.
@@SaltyPuglord Thanks for the personal reply Salty, that is kind of you to take the time.
Yes, I have been watching a lot of Spanj - in fact he is my main motivation to continue with this alpha game and I've enjoyed his vidz, learned loads and gone on to improve my own game & skills and enjoy my play much more.
I've watched some Kage too and learned from him also.
I've been working on my own tutorials...and I'm hoping to publish them soon. (my earlier ones last year on my main channel were back when I was less skilled and are now a bit out of date, but I've moved on immeasurably since then and am keen to present my own peculiar take on things).
I actually just opened RUclips to remind myself of your channel & name to put it into the tutorial I made tonight.
I'll probably publish them all in one go as a set, once I've finished and set the style.
I've got to say the quality of some of the stuff I've seen sets very high standards, so I want to get mine sweet. ;o)
Thanks again for the great video and for your response.
That trigger plate idea is good! I always use motion sensor
Either way, honestly. The plate is easier to set up, but the motion sensor is cleaner and less intrusive.
I used this method for the teleporter. I place the teleporter on top of the pressure plate. Works a treat
Works well Thanks
Thank you somebody finally explain signal logic in an idiot proof fashion. Of all the things that I've learned in this new game signal logic is one of the least explained
Great stuff i'll have to do this, the plates are good even for normal power i guess because sometimes i don't have enough materials to make power batteries. now i have to see if those plates are cheap for a low level small starting base, thank you for the tutorial.
Great Tutorial, thank you.
fifteen solar panels and 16 capacitors with a backup of 16 fuel tanks is more than enough energy for any size base
In my current play-through my base has six solar panels with two capacitors, and the base power hasn't go below 2000/3000 stored energy even when I ran my Advanced Constructor all night. (The furnace I only run during the day.) No generators or fuel tanks at all. Maybe the planet I'm on is just close to the sun, or something...
Thanks Salty very helpful for a noob like me!
plz remake this with recent updates
I will try. But no promises about how soon.
Could you do a video on the other items in the "Configure Signal" menu in the middle drop down? Why do we always leave the default to follow? Also how to use the other circuit items listed under "Select Circuit"? You did a great job once you started your instruction.
Been waiting to do a more detailed tutorial for a while. IRL things seem to always get in the way. I think right now I need to finish my current Subnautica: Below Zero series. Then I have to worry about getting a job again, post-pandemic. If I can put the bullet in both of those things... then I'll tackle a more complete explanation of signal logic in Empyrion.
@@SaltyPuglord You are a Rockstar! I am sure you will have no issues with finding a job. Thanks again for all the great work you have done. You are appreciated!
I think the 150 kw you are seeing for the food processor is what would be used if it was going. It can’t be taking that all the time.
The next logical step would be to ask the devs to include a logic command to command the device on while items are in que.
As far as I can tell, they actually went further. They actually created an automatic "low power" modes for at least the advanced constructor. It now takes less power while idle then while constructing.
I still like my way better.
@@SaltyPuglord I agree, I like it too. I tried doing something similar but decided on a switch. I set up 2 furnaces and a large generator on a switch. This way when I am melting ore I don't tax the whole bases power supply ans can then turn it off when done. I planned on tieing in a deconstrustir as well but didn't get that far yet.
also motion sensors work better for work benches. you don't want to have to stand in front of your workbench the whole time while it creates what you want. i have all workbenches tied into my motion sensor when I enter my base. need those matariels to keep processing while im moving about my base. lol
Thank you.
Excellent.
Great tutorial and still relevant in 1.0
Thanks! I have only played one day, and my lights have been blinking like crazy during evening/night - and my generator wont be placed anywhere either XD (Ok, supposedly it is because i built the large generator not meant to be placed on a base)
I'm curious to know how far out from your base you can have a sensor who work using them as motion detectors when drones come in protecting them from being fired upon right away same thing with ground units better accuracy and hit Box closer up
I wish people would not bounce all over the place. It is so annoying
Playing 10.6, and I found this helpful. One thing I discovered is that there is a problem having solar and fuel together. Whenever I save the game, exit, and come back later, all the fuel is gone and the lights flicker on and off. Once I get rid of the solar, the problem of fuel draining after logging off stops. Another observation is the screen that had the battery meter. Did they remove that on the latest build, because mine has Pentaxid? Does it matter where I put the compacitors? Trying to figure out why I dont have a battery meter.
> Did they remove that on the latest build, because mine has Pentaxid?
Yup. :[ So now you have to go to the "Statistics" tab, find the "Power/Fuel" pane, and scroll down to find the "Battery" number among all the clutter.
> Does it matter where I put the compacitors?
Nope, as long as they're on your base it makes no difference.
> Trying to figure out why I dont have a battery meter.
Because Eleon took it away. :[
Curious... Why they took the battery meter out?
I have no freakin' idea. You can try asking them on the official forums. I doubt you have high odds of getting an answer. But you can try...
There is a waypoint on everyting on the planet.
(Yes Chad:) "Yes." (/YC) ;D
Can the signal logic be utilized to turn on the constructor when you queue something to be built, then turn itself off after the queue is empty? Sounds simple enough on paper, but I don’t know if the queue box itself is a "variable".... great video! Thanks!
I've never found a way. If you figure it out, let me know!
(TBH, I would be happy if it merely shut it self off when it was done. I don't mind turning it on again when I need to build something.)
@@SaltyPuglord I thought about that because I had noticed if the const was off, you can still tell it to build something and it will hang inside the queue until it has power going to it. So I'm guessing somewhere in the code of the game it treats the queue "box" as a physical item. It's just a matter of finding what the game refers to it as - (without hacking the code because if you change your local game files, you run the risk of it not working with the next update or it has to "validate data" through steam)... then it would just force you to reinstall and be overwritten globally. Definitely one for the developers to add in.
I'll try to tweak and let you know what I discover. Thanks!
@@SaltyPuglord tried messing around for a while with the signal logic yesterday's to figure it out... no dice. Maybe there will be something added to the game specifically to tweak the queues. :/ Sorry, man.
@@AnthonyRossJr1701 Thanks for trying, and reporting back. We can only hope Eleon will take your words to heart.
Great vid thanks but please please please stop jumping around constantly.
sounded like you said hey it's the salty butt lord lol
Ehehehehe, emmm.... yeah!
Uhuhuhuh, huhuhuh, cool. He said "butt"!
I love your tutorials, it's too bad you have no game season of Empyrion, I started to play now the 9.4 version and I'm having some difficulty because it is a little complex in unlocking things and there is no tutorial. But it seems to be a good game
You have no idea how badly I wish I had the time to do a full on Let's Play series for Empyrion. But between my full-time job, MechWarrior Online, and the few videos I make for this channel, it's hopeless.
Ever since I built my new computer, I've been trying to find half an hour to play just the tutorial for Titanfall 2 just to try out the controls. It's been 5 weeks now and it still hasn't happened...
I trust you know about Spanj, Lift Pizzas, XCaliber and Charles Macro? They're probably my favorite Empyrion Let's Players.
Good signal tut and solar QnA
Nice Base :)
Well, thank you. But honestly, it was just whatever I could throw together. I'll never be a great architect, I have no aesthetic sense at all.
With your clear English and thoughts you could make great tutorials not only for a games
If only I understood anything besides video games... ;]
wish there was a way to keep it on until it finishes crafting, then auto turns off
I've been thinking that pretty much continuously ever since I made this video, a year ago.
I am playing with the latest patch. I think the power consumption from Constructors and Food processor have been fixed. I tested it, both only consume power when they are processing. When in idle state, they only use very little power.
Hey, better nate than lever!
Plate won't make noise when I stand on it and doesn't work, the plate also doesn't have a arrow even though that should make no difference.
Also I has no battery level in the control panel that you have.
First make sure you're actually using a Trigger Plate and not one of the two Trap Doors in the same right-click menu.
I don't know if your base needs to be turned on in order for trigger plates to work. If your base is currently turned off, turn it on and try again.
Bump!
I saw this Clip a few months back when I had just begun to get into EGS, it was interesting but over my head at the time. Fast Track Four months of Survival, Building and Learning... Each new Build more Complex than the last. Working on Logic now.
This is a great example of the 2xOr circuit... Thank You!
That was incredibly useful, thank you. Shame there isn't an "if working then keep on" command. :D
A quick foray in-game and it turns out that devices now have a low "idle" rate which makes your solution somewhat redundant (which is a good thing!) though I stand by the fact that the video is incredibly useful from the point of view of using switches and "OR" commands. =)
The way I figure it is: You can have reduced idle power usage... or you can have zero idle power usage. Zero idle power takes a little more effort, but not much. In the early game, it's probably worth it.
@@SaltyPuglord certainly if you are finding yourself with power issues then this is clearly the way to go. Fortunately I was able to throw more solar panels at my particular problem . :D
@@Binidj You could also place OFF pads in front of your OUTPUT containers if it's a long job.
I'm confused, though. Wouldn't making that signal logic procedure basically just move the off-switch from your constructor to your base control panel, as it's not really automatic either way? I can't see the practical use in it, as it requires you to manually turn off the workstation anyway, but with some nasty visual pollution to the floor because of the pad.
If you don't like the override signal cluttering up the base control panel, you can do same thing with a switch on the wall next to the ctor.
And if the pad bugs you, you can use a "motion" sensor (actually a "player present" sensor) placed on the ceiling to get the same effect with so little visual clutter that you'll probably never see it unless you're specifically looking for it.
you can still repair items with the repair station is off
So if you make tilted solar panels to keep gathering solar power all through the day... wouldn't that make flat panels more convenient on the whole?
More convenient, yes. The most energy gathered over the course of the day, not necessarily.
This is an excellent design if you want to stand around and look at your food processor, and constructor while it builds things.... yea I know you put a stay on signal in the control panel. Not much use for then plate then huh? Why don't you just place two switches, lights and devices? That way you don't have to go to the control panel and you can turn on/off all the power hungry devices at once. You could even place an LCD over them to to tell you what they were for.
If this setup doesn't suit you and you want to use switches (or something else), that's fine by me. Do what works for you.
But for me personally, I find that it's quite rare that I need a device to be on when I'm not standing at it. I've *never* wanted my Food Processor or Repair Station to be on when I'm not standing there. And wanting the Ctor to be on when I'm not at it is something that tends to happen only when I'm making a shit-ton of oxygen tanks. And for that, I put a portable constructor (doesn't take power) outside, load it up with a hundred water, and then walk away for a couple days.
Ah! ok you do a lot of micro task sort of thing I get it now. I do the same with the portable constructor just leave it at the water source with the rest of the system. What i am really keen on seeing and would like a video of if you think it is a good idea. Is to answer some questions about the solar panels. I might put in a stitch for my farm module because of the 2 food processors, because I didn't think they used that much power. Note: A new base placement needs a jump start with a generator to start running the solar capacitor.
What dose any slight variance on east to west make on power generation?
How dose using more capacitors benefit the system if any?
Is being at the equator help and in power generation? If so by how much roughly?
Do flat panels care about this east west position?
Can you stack flat panels or angled and or do they block each other?
I don't know the answers to your questions offhand. And I definitely don't have the time to do the experiments. If you have time, then by all means, try them for yourself.
The only thing I can tell you is that most of the answers will depend on where on the planet your base is. Planets in Empyrion have axial tilt - one pole is tilted more towards the sun than the other. The closer you get to that sunny pole, the more sense it makes to point your panels towards the equator, instead of east-west. East-west works decently no matter where on the planet you are, which is why I recommended it. But at the sunny pole, a mixture of a few east, a few west, and mostly equator-facing panels is going to work even better.
What advantage does a ctorforceon signal have if you have to manually shut it off? I would understand the use of the signal circuit if it would automatically turn the constructor off after the crafting que was complete.
It allow the constructor to be on for long builds, without the player having to stand on the plate the entire time the build is in progress.
@@SaltyPuglord As would just a simple on/off switch attached to the front of the constructor.
Sure, it's just convenient to have it in the base control panel so you can flip it from anywhere in the base.
You helped
I say one thing, or 3 Great video Great job and i GREAT tutorial. Im useing many solarpanels, located on diffrent parts of planet connected by underground pipes so every moment part of is on ,,dayside" of planet. But your way is easier and less expencive, and your tutorial is so clear even every new (i pray more players discover this epic game) players should understend your explanation. Once again great job.
So you have to stand in front of your devices or they stop manufacturing stuff? Some things take many minutes to build! Do you really just stand there the entire time?
Found the guy who didn't watch the whole video!
Hi there, guy who didn't watch the whole video. ;]
I appreciate the response.
what if your constructor is making stuff that takes minuts to do and you step off the plate? will it stop crafting?
Watch the whole video.
I just started playing again what i want to ask whats the diff of turning off a singal connection and going into the constructor either way you have to turn something off. What i would like to see and im not sure if its in game but having a way to turn it on and when all contruction is done it turns it self off now that would be awesome.
> whats the diff of turning off a singal connection and going into the constructor either way you have to turn something off.
It depends on what controls the signal. If you use a Pressure Plate or Motion Sensor, then the signal will not just turn on automatically, it will also turn off automatically when you step off the plate / leave the motion sensor area.
> What i would like to see and im not sure if its in game but having a way to turn it on and when all contruction is done it turns it self off
Yeah, that's what I've also wanted for about 4 years now too. Eleon has kinda made a move in that direction, with an "idle" state for the Constructor that kicks in after several minutes. The power draw drops down to 100 PU or something like that while in idle. But honestly, that's just silly. The constructor knows when it's done! It should either turn itself off completely, or it should send out a "Done" signal so the player can choose to turn it off completely.
Would you just quit jumping around when you have nowhere to go?
I suggest you go in good mode and fly around next time
Nope, I'll never quit jumping around. ;]
Thumbs up for "ver beep"
my cursor dont get yellow when pointing at the trigger plate :(
Playing in version 8.7 and I can't get your signal logic to work for the constructor, standing on the plate works but it won't stay on while it's crafting stuff.
It's working for me, but my game was started way back in 8.5. If I start a new game with 8.7, I'll come back and let you know if it works there.
Man I just set up max panels (24) and I am getting less then a KW and I watch your video and your near 200KW's lol. We are near the south pole on our planet nd are facing our panels north. which is giving us the best so far but still nowhere near what you are getting 4 years ago lol.
Well, Eleon could have easily changed the amount of energy that solar panels produce. I mean, they do love to patch Empy every two months.
Also, I seem to remember that the kind of star your planet orbits, and how close that planet is to the star, will effect your solar panel output too. Not sure if that's a new thing, but I remember Spanj talking about it in a video from a year and a half ago, so...
@@SaltyPuglord shortly after i posted this i went back to see his energy consumption which was much higher so ya I think the values now are all different!
how did you make a battery for your base?
The "solar capacitors" (tower things between the solar panels, with blue lights) around 1:17 are the batteries. IDK why Eleon Studios didn't call them "solar batteries"...
i cant get it to walk on like yours like your base lol
need a blue print of that setup
please
Blueprint of which? The hanger?
Wow, so I have to watch out where I place my Solar panels when setting them up, well that's big news, would never have expected that, absolutely great tutorial. #Not
dude are you a bunny rabbit or what
To catch the rabbit, one must be able to think like the rabbit. ;]
Stand still ffs.
you over explain and have a condescending tone about it. there is absolutely no reason you had to say 191 kW so many times. we get it, the output is 191kW. take it back a notch and your video would have been way better. decent tutorial just over board a bit. ;)
If you don't like my personal style, by all means go elsewhere. There is no shortage of people doing these kind of videos on youtube, and there's no reason to choose my channel over someone else's.
I hope ths next bit is needless to say, but just in case I'm not being fully clear here: No modification of my personal style is going to happen. ;]
Quit.... jumping
You need to calm down and get to the point... Jumping back and forth is not interesting...
> You need to calm down and get to the point...
NEVAR!!! I love my kangaroo bullshit, and Imma keep doing it!
> Jumping back and forth is not interesting...
Not interesting *to you.* There are plenty of people who do consider it interesting.
But more to the point: I make these videos FOR ME. Not for you, or anyone else. So if you don't like my style, go elsewhere. There are (literally) a million content creators on YT. I'm sure you can find someone whose style is more agreeable to you.
very informative but so looooooooooooong-winded. yikes.
Had to give thumbs down when you failed at basic math.
Happy to be of disservice! ;D
Stop damn jumping around when you are illustration/talking about stuff....soooooo bloody distracting...
NO!!!!
stop bouncing pls
NO!!
;D